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Old 12-26-2016, 09:51 PM   #1
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Why is objectivity even an issue, though? Some preferred Matt Hardy, some preferred AJ Styles. There's nothing wrong with either answer, or any other, as long as it's not just thrown out there like your Rob Van Dam "joke."

This isn't that difficult, nor is there a reason for you to get so wound up about it.
I'm one of "those people" who can put aside my own personal feelings on something when asked to rate it. For example, when it comes to Film of the Year, the best film is not always going to be my favorite film. This is where you get things like "guilty pleasures" and "unpopular opinions." When discussing films, music, wrestling or whatever, I always try to bring a bit of objectivity into it. I find that, frankly, more interesting than "my favorite is this" "oh, my favorite is this." There's a time and a place for that, and most places you can have that conversation concurrently.

If there is some disagreement there, like Rollermacka and #1-wwf-fan seem to have, I'm happy to have that conversation, since this is a wrestling discussion forum. I'd like to know the criteria by which Matt Hardy could possibly be considered the best wrestler of the year, because in MY opinion, it certainly hasn't been in-ring, on the mic, or as a draw.

And I know you didn't mean anything by it, but please don't assume I am wound up. As Dale said in another thread, and I could relate to him in this, it's frustrating when someone claims to know your mind in things. I've certainly been guilty of doing that to others, it's very easy during internet discussions, but as someone who gives no flying fucks about Matt Hardy and TNA anymore, I am more bemused by how upset his supporters get when you point out he is terrible. I find how seriously people seem to take this...troubling -- especially considering it's comedy garbage wrestling that he's doing.
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Old 12-27-2016, 12:03 AM   #2
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I'm one of "those people" who can put aside my own personal feelings on something when asked to rate it. For example, when it comes to Film of the Year, the best film is not always going to be my favorite film. This is where you get things like "guilty pleasures" and "unpopular opinions." When discussing films, music, wrestling or whatever, I always try to bring a bit of objectivity into it. I find that, frankly, more interesting than "my favorite is this" "oh, my favorite is this." There's a time and a place for that, and most places you can have that conversation concurrently.

If there is some disagreement there, like Rollermacka and #1-wwf-fan seem to have, I'm happy to have that conversation, since this is a wrestling discussion forum. I'd like to know the criteria by which Matt Hardy could possibly be considered the best wrestler of the year, because in MY opinion, it certainly hasn't been in-ring, on the mic, or as a draw.

And I know you didn't mean anything by it, but please don't assume I am wound up. As Dale said in another thread, and I could relate to him in this, it's frustrating when someone claims to know your mind in things. I've certainly been guilty of doing that to others, it's very easy during internet discussions, but as someone who gives no flying fucks about Matt Hardy and TNA anymore, I am more bemused by how upset his supporters get when you point out he is terrible. I find how seriously people seem to take this...troubling -- especially considering it's comedy garbage wrestling that he's doing.
I didn't mean being objective was a bad thing, I just don't see why you seem to think everyone else should also be objective when opining on their favorites. A lot of people watch wrestling as a TV show, so match quality and drawing power may not mean a whole lot - entertainment value will. So if someone thought Matt Hardy was more enjoyable than AJ Styles or whoever (I didn't), it's not a wrong answer.

That's my issue here. Saying things like "I don't see how this is a discussion" certainly makes it seem like you're wound up about it, especially after several people stated their reasons. You don't have to like it, but that doesn't mean you should tell people they're wrong because they did.
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