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Old 02-14-2005, 12:22 PM   #41
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Hey Trips (or other Jets fans),

I'm reading Lamont Jordon is an unrestricted free agent, I thought the Jets had him signed? If not, that's gonna be a tough call, do you give starter money to a guy who gets 1/4 of the plays... otherwise he'll get the starter money elsewhere.

Also, I read MSG wants to buy that site where they're going to build the Jets stadium, and put condos, that way they don't get any competition from the new stadium for events. The Gov is againast it cause he thinks with that stadium you'll get the Olympics.
Everyone on the Jets is saying they want to to try to get LaMont Jordan back. But yeah, they barely ever use him so I dunno. He said he wants to stay with the Jets, but he wants to be a starter too and that isn't gonna happen on the Jets yet.

They are also franchising John Abraham. All the paperwork is going through now or whatever, so he'll be back 100%.

Also heard they might sign Kurt Warner or someone like that to backup Pennington, since he had surgery on his torn rotator cuff and is gonna be out for like five months and maybe even longer, missing some of training camp.
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Well, McCombs is no longer a problem. Team is being sold, new owner has money and is the first black owner in the NFL. I'd expect him to spend a lot of money, top coach, gm, star players etc...

Imagine Pepper throwing to Moss and Burress w/ Edge in the backfield...
1: Burleson is far, far, far better than Burress.

2: Edge would cost a lot of money, when we have 4 potential starter HBs.

3: More like, Andre Dyson, Darren Sharper, Jeremiah Trotter on defense. Or something. We need a Guard, too. But I love Big Dixon, so let's not get ahead of ourselves. The best Kiwi NFL player of all time, David Dixon is.
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Everyone on the Jets is saying they want to to try to get LaMont Jordan back. But yeah, they barely ever use him so I dunno. He said he wants to stay with the Jets, but he wants to be a starter too and that isn't gonna happen on the Jets yet.

They are also franchising John Abraham. All the paperwork is going through now or whatever, so he'll be back 100%.

Also heard they might sign Kurt Warner or someone like that to backup Pennington, since he had surgery on his torn rotator cuff and is gonna be out for like five months and maybe even longer, missing some of training camp.
OMG that's right, Minnesota's gonna sign Ferguson.
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I hope this Fowler guy is good, I know Taylor would have been a good fit but I think this guy might be good too. You think Taylor might made a run at the Twins now?
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1: Burleson is far, far, far better than Burress.

2: Edge would cost a lot of money, when we have 4 potential starter HBs.

3: More like, Andre Dyson, Darren Sharper, Jeremiah Trotter on defense. Or something. We need a Guard, too. But I love Big Dixon, so let's not get ahead of ourselves. The best Kiwi NFL player of all time, David Dixon is.
1) your nuts.

2) Yes, Edge or Alexander would cost a lot and none of your "potential starters" can hold a candle to either of them.

3) You have a lot of cap room, so there should be room to make a few movies, but it's possible the new owner won't do much this year.

On a different note (a team that wins the big games) Scott Pioli turned down 5yrs 15million (3/yr) to run the Seahawks, chosing to stay with the Pats.

I like these guys turning down more money to stay here.
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OMG that's right, Minnesota's gonna sign Ferguson.
He is the jobber Jets d-lineman. ENJOY.
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They are also franchising John Abraham. All the paperwork is going through now or whatever, so he'll be back 100%.
You can pull that tag back, a lot of teams use it to negotiate a trade or hold leverage on negotiating a contract. So never say 100%
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You can replace him with Chris Hovan. ENJOY.
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1) your nuts.

2) Yes, Edge or Alexander would cost a lot and none of your "potential starters" can hold a candle to either of them.

3) You have a lot of cap room, so there should be room to make a few movies, but it's possible the new owner won't do much this year.

On a different note (a team that wins the big games) Scott Pioli turned down 5yrs 15million (3/yr) to run the Seahawks, chosing to stay with the Pats.

I like these guys turning down more money to stay here.
1) You obviously never watched Burleson play. His TD against the Colts, or that 60 yard gain against I forget who, where they had him down but he kept his balance and didn't hit the turf, and got back up. He was a beast. We do not need Burress.

2) YOU'RE nuts. Edge is overrated. I'd be a pretty good runningback if I played on the Colts. And Alexander is going to cost far too much.

3) If Glen Taylor finds a way to get the team, he will spend all of his cap room to make the team competitive.
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Honestly this is my least favorite time of the year. No more football, the Knicks are painful to watch, March Madness hasn't started yet, and spring training hasn't started.
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Jeff Garcia just got released. COME ON DOLPHINS! GARCIA-WARNER-BLEDSOE.

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Garcia is just another Fiedler, but older. And gay instead of jewish.
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Garcia is better then Fiedler IMO. I'm kinda surprised the Browns released him. Who the hell are they gonna use for their QB? Kellen Winslow will be back next year for Cleveland too, even though he is a rich kid prick, he's the truth. he is gonna put up huge numbers. But who's gonna throw him the ball?
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I doubt Garcia will start in the NFL again he's getting old and I don't think he's poised to lead a team anywhere. I also heard Bledsoes probably gonna get released. not a bad year for back up QB's
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Vikings need to build off Claiborne. He impressed me towards the end of the season. Forget about "big time" corner backs. Shut down corners aren't as valuable now since of the newly enforced rules to give the offense more of an advantage. Their coaching staff is nothing special either, they are lucky they even made the playoffs last season. Something needs to be changed is all im saying, coaching staff, marquee player. Beacuse they are just going to keep repeating what they have been doing. Start out like 6-0, 5-1, 7-2 or something like that. Then tank it.
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Garcia is better then Fiedler IMO. I'm kinda surprised the Browns released him. Who the hell are they gonna use for their QB? Kellen Winslow will be back next year for Cleveland too, even though he is a rich kid prick, he's the truth. he is gonna put up huge numbers. But who's gonna throw him the ball?
The idiot browns signed Garcia to a huge contract. Holcomb will do better probably, but they're destined to have another shit season.
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Vikings need to build off Claiborne. He impressed me towards the end of the season. Forget about "big time" corner backs. Shut down corners aren't as valuable now since of the newly enforced rules to give the offense more of an advantage. Their coaching staff is nothing special either, they are lucky they even made the playoffs last season. Something needs to be changed is all im saying, coaching staff, marquee player. Beacuse they are just going to keep repeating what they have been doing. Start out like 6-0, 5-1, 7-2 or something like that. Then tank it.
Yeah if Claiborne could stay healthy, he's the fucking man. He's going back to MLB which could be good or bad, dunno. It's better than having EJ making shit reads all the time. But the thing is, if Raonall Smith could stay healthy, too, then we'd have at least two amazing linebackers. add that to udeze with two arms, and a real Nosetackle who takes up two blockers, and our front 7 will finally be what it was supposed to be last season. I was stupid to think that a rookie and 2nd year linebacker would somehow make our front 7 better. Faster, but who cares how fast you are if you overpursue or make the wrong read? Greg Biekert should have come back last season. It'd have been great.

Anyway, yea, raonall smith was an unbelievable force when he played this year. Third-year player, and was healthy for an extended stretch for the first time ever, then he got the concussions He might have to retire at 25. If he doesn't, and can survive a full NFL season, then he could quite possibly be pro bowl material. He's an insane playmaker.
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They went 6-1 and the lost it this year because Moss went down, and even though he isn't that important according to Jay Marriotti, thats what did it. Last season it was just because the Vikings were not a good enough team to continue that,.
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can someone explain the franchise tag to me, I know that once they tag someone it basically signs them for a one year contract... but does that player have no say in it at all? and does every team only get one a year? can they choose not to use it and save it or something? and why doesn't seattle or indy tag Alexander and Edge?
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Franchise tag is, I think, the average salary of the 5 highest paid players at that position? Or something. It's a one-year lock, I think it's salary cap independent, but probably not. Players don't get a say. It's I think 2 first round picks if someone signs a Franchised player. But it's a lot of money for a one-year contract, and a lot of players won't agree to an extension if you franchise them. I think if you're having cap problems you don't want to franchise a player, when you think you can live without him.

But it's not too late to franchise Edge and Alexander. Though as much as HBs are being paid now, it might be better to let them go, when the draft is so deep with HBs this year. Dunno.
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you pretty much hit it bean.

they get the avg of the top 5 salaries for the position and the team gets the right to match any offer and if they don't they get two 1st round picks.

Teams have till feb 22nd I think to designate, there is also an "exclusive" franchise tag, which takes a player off the market and no one can sign him.

There are also some rules about after the tag is put on, you can't negotiate with that player till a certain point and if you do resign them, they keep the franchise tag.

So, say the Pats put the tag on Vinateri (which might happen, and if a teams willing to give up two 1st rounders, I'll bet they let him go) and then sign him before the period is over to a 5yr 25mil deal. say it breaks even at 5mil/yr. Now, say his 5th year he is no longer higher paid then the average of the top 5 salaried kickers, his pay would increase, even though he has a contract.

Also, I'm pretty sure it does count against the cap, cause they were saying Breeze will figure like 8-9mil but the charges have 20+ free space.
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So, Bledsoe is getting wavied next week, which means the Bills are hoping someone wants to give up some pick for him first.

I predicted he ends up in Dallas a year ago, I stick with it.
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Washington State....

hmm... maybe Seattle signs Alexander, lets hasselback go and signed Bledsoe for short money?
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or Jeff George, but neither has anything to do with Bledsoe being cut by the Bills.
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heard Baltimore is offering up Suggs,McCalister and a 2nd round pick for Moss... Don't know if it's true or not but that seems like alot for moss and im a moss fan.
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But the problem is, could Suggs actually be a difference-maker as a run-stopping linebacker in a 4-3, or is he still just a pure pass rusher? Cause we have Lance Johnstone as the pass-rusher... we need a guy who won't make shit reads, get burned on both run AND pass defense like Thomas and Henderson.
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Ted Bruschi was taken to the hospital yesterday, the family is not letting info be released.

What's been said so far "officially" was he had a sever headache and was taken by ambulance from him home to the hospital and is doing well, but being kept for tests and under the care of a Pats team doctor.

The "rumors" are he has stroke like symptons, partial paralasys and blured vision, and theres also talk that he had a stroke in the ambulance.

I hope he's fine, I could care less about him playing right now you just hope he is fine and can play with his kids and watch the grow up.
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yeah it sounds like something my dad had a few years ago they call them "baby strokes" up in canada he should be fine, took my dad about a year to get fully healthy from it again though.
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