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Old 07-08-2005, 12:38 AM   #41
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Actually, I was just pointing out the concept of how horrible it would be that people sympathise with terrorism...Especially in the US, where we just celebrated a country being formed out of many acts, several terrorist.


Wow. There's a pretty big difference between Hassan toppling the "Twin Towers" and a bunch of guys jumping the Undertaker. If you have to reach that desperately, then your argument is not worthy of the respect you seem to think you deserve.

Incidentally, "Might be offended?"

What about the soldiers who MIGHT be offended by Cena's Bad Bad man video. BAH GAWD THOSE WOUNDS TOOK YEARS TO HEAL AND SOME PEOPLE NEVER RECOVERED AND IT'S SO INSENSITIVE TO PEOPLE IN THE ARMY WHO MIGHT HAVE BEEN OFFENDED!

I will not deal with your imaginary people who may be offended. Because that argument works for every instance of anything anywhere. If you worry about what might offend, you can never show anything ever again. And until I see the post where you chastised Vince for the Cena video, I'll call you a hypocrite and ignore your tearjerking theatrics.

You want respect, try being less like Fox news, and be more like real journalism.
I can see your point about what may or may not offend the soldiers. Regardless of what the situation is, some might find one thing offensive while others don't. That makes sense. But what I don't get is how you pointed out twice that I'm asking for respect. I could care less if I'm respected or not. I was just making a point which was that many people may find that the WWE is portaying the Hassan gimmick and the storyline he's involved in in a very tasteless manner. That's it. That's all I was saying. We're all talking aboot wrestling and you're being critical of my argument because it's not "like real journalism"? Ha, I never claimed to be a damn jourrnalist and I never asked for anybody's respect. Especially not yours.
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Old 07-08-2005, 12:47 AM   #42
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Hmm... that still came off pretty controversially. Anyway, LA got the warning three times. But having them bow down and the cry of Allah and the whole talk of "sacrifice" can very easily offend.

Now, in terms of it it hurts Hassan's character, I relinquish those worries. It came off pretty well... he's pretty damn evil. The way it came off, he did "what had to be done."


However, did anyone else notice how ridiculously plastic that "metal pipe" was? That was pretty sad.
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Also, while Taker was getting choked, I was thinking "HE'S ALREADY DEAD!!! IT WON'T DO ANYTHING!!!!"
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I can see your point about what may or may not offend the soldiers. Regardless of what the situation is, some might find one thing offensive while others don't. That makes sense. But what I don't get is how you pointed out twice that I'm asking for respect. I could care less if I'm respected or not. I was just making a point which was that many people may find that the WWE is portaying the Hassan gimmick and the storyline he's involved in in a very tasteless manner. That's it. That's all I was saying. We're all talking aboot wrestling and you're being critical of my argument because it's not "like real journalism"? Ha, I never claimed to be a damn jourrnalist and I never asked for anybody's respect. Especially not yours.
the spookiest part about all this is that...with all your posts on here...

your post count says 911..as in 9/11...

BAHGAWD IM OFFENDED!!!
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fuck you posted again and now its 912.
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Damn I didn't notice that until you mentioned it. That is pretty wicked.
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I think Davari may be released now.
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:28 AM   #48
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Bye bye Davari..(Cries) I like him more then Hassan. (sighs) He's the better wrestler.
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... there was a segment with Hassan and a masked man, I didn't see that
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Also, while Taker was getting choked, I was thinking "HE'S ALREADY DEAD!!! IT WON'T DO ANYTHING!!!!"
haha...that's exactly what i said to my mom when it was happening.
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Also, while Taker was getting choked, I was thinking "HE'S ALREADY DEAD!!! IT WON'T DO ANYTHING!!!!"

That's the thing about Taker, i can't get over thinking how much they've fucked up his character, it's just funny to watch him now while thinking that he's supposed to be dead.
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He's not supposed to be dead anymore. Now Tazz and Michael Cole claim that it's a 'state of mind' and that he's not actually dead.
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I can see your point about what may or may not offend the soldiers. Regardless of what the situation is, some might find one thing offensive while others don't. That makes sense. But what I don't get is how you pointed out twice that I'm asking for respect. I could care less if I'm respected or not. I was just making a point which was that many people may find that the WWE is portaying the Hassan gimmick and the storyline he's involved in in a very tasteless manner. That's it. That's all I was saying. We're all talking aboot wrestling and you're being critical of my argument because it's not "like real journalism"? Ha, I never claimed to be a damn jourrnalist and I never asked for anybody's respect. Especially not yours.
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the spookiest part about all this is that...with all your posts on here...

your post count says 911..as in 9/11...

BAHGAWD IM OFFENDED!!!
I think PMF just covered that.

It might be offensive. So might many angles in wrestling. Tasteless? A lot of wrestling is tasteless. This isn't the first or last tasteless gimmick, and the fact that you show sympathy to soldiers who might be offended over this but not soldiers who might have been offended by the turncoat Slaughter is hopocritical and asinine.

Offensive is offensive, kiddies. "But that's different" doesn't cut it here. La Res DIRECTLY DEMEANED the American military, where were you, O selective one? There are several gimmicks that demean ENTIRE RACES, and you're not defending them.

By the way, for the slow in the audience, it's a comparison. Be more like this, less like this. Only an idiot would think I felt posting on a message board counted as journalism. Though you're only one step below Hannitty...
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Also, while Taker was getting choked, I was thinking "HE'S ALREADY DEAD!!! IT WON'T DO ANYTHING!!!!"
Yeah, I was thinking about that.

How stupid did it look for this undead badass to be blacking out?
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Old 07-08-2005, 11:16 AM   #55
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Hmm... that still came off pretty controversially. Anyway, LA got the warning three times. But having them bow down and the cry of Allah and the whole talk of "sacrifice" can very easily offend.
It'd be worse if the London bombings were suicide bombings.

Divari's "Sacrifice" wasn't exactly something that compares to the usual " sacrifices" for Islamic fanatics. No more than those "My Sacrifice" videos, and far less than the Undertaker's previous "sacrifice."
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He's not supposed to be dead anymore. Now Tazz and Michael Cole claim that it's a 'state of mind' and that he's not actually dead.

They actually said that? I never heard them say anything like that.But that's funny if it's true.
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That's the thing about Taker, i can't get over thinking how much they've fucked up his character, it's just funny to watch him now while thinking that he's supposed to be dead.
He's supposed to be unbeatable by the Smackdown roster, and therein lies the problem. HE's been booked so strong (And since Mark has a hand in the booking, you can bet this is part of it...) that there's no logical way to take him down. So they have to rely on the illogical, or nothing at all. He's a badass that can take on large amounts of punishment, gets back up from even the most severe punishment--But Randy KOs him. He's come back from being buried and has supernatural powers, but chloroform knocks him out and he can be choked out by terrorists.
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Old 07-08-2005, 11:33 AM   #58
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He's not supposed to be dead anymore. Now Tazz and Michael Cole claim that it's a 'state of mind' and that he's not actually dead.
So the lightning is part of his Telepsychic abilities? State of mind?
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So the lightning is part of his Telepsychic abilities? State of mind?
Kane could use lightning, and he was never dead. Same thing with his fire abilities.
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They actually said that? I never heard them say anything like that.But that's funny if it's true.
I've heard it a few times.
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Kane could use lightning, and he was never dead. Same thing with his fire abilities.
Back when he was a supernatural monster.
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and far less than the Undertaker's previous "sacrifice."
Pffft... you of all people should know: If an Arab does it, it's terrorism. If a Christian does it, it's justice. DUUUUHHHHHH


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I think Davari may be released now.
I hope not. I think he could be a great Cruiserweight.

But if he was... you think they'd sell it as Taker actually killed him? And if that's the case, they should have buried him alive. He'd be the first person ever buried alive to actually "die"!!!!


Speaking of wrestlers released... isn't is sad that Matt Morgan got released before the final showing of him on TV actually occurred? It's like... WWE.COM reports Matt Morgan is gone! Oh wait, two days later, it's on TV!

You think they would have waited. Or maybe I'm the only one who finds it humorous.
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Pffft... you of all people should know: If an Arab does it, it's terrorism. If a Christian does it, it's justice. DUUUUHHHHHH
Yeah. If they're our guys, they're freedom fighters. If they're their guys, it's terrorism.

Like I said previously in on e of these threads, it's amazing the US viewers reaction to terrorists when this nation was founded by terrorist acts. When the US created Osama and Saddam.
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On the whole offense thing...

My ncestors were lynched by guys who look like Undertaker, with his redneck gimmick. I am offended, and how dare you all be insensitive to the still-wounded NAtive American population...
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:10 PM   #66
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Wouldn't it be something if Hassan comes out next week and cuts a promo saying that through the entire week, everyone thought that his masked bandits were Arab terrorists. Then he calls the guys up to the ring and shows everyone that they were just ordinary American caucasians and reiterates to the crowd that they're all racist. It'd boost his heat and reinforce his character.
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:21 PM   #68
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Wouldn't it be something if Hassan comes out next week and cuts a promo saying that through the entire week, everyone thought that his masked bandits were Arab terrorists. Then he calls the guys up to the ring and shows everyone that they were just ordinary American caucasians and reiterates to the crowd that they're all racist. It'd boost his heat and reinforce his character.
That would save his original gimmick. That would be an excellent follow up.
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Mike and Todd Shane, Val Venis, Mike Knox (OVW wrestler) and one other unidentified wrestler were the guys who attacked Undertaker as a part of Hassan's 'group'.
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:23 PM   #70
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Wouldn't it be something if Hassan comes out next week and cuts a promo saying that through the entire week, everyone thought that his masked bandits were Arab terrorists. Then he calls the guys up to the ring and shows everyone that they were just ordinary American caucasians and reiterates to the crowd that they're all racist. It'd boost his heat and reinforce his character.
Good plan
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:36 PM   #71
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Wouldn't it be something if Hassan comes out next week and cuts a promo saying that through the entire week, everyone thought that his masked bandits were Arab terrorists. Then he calls the guys up to the ring and shows everyone that they were just ordinary American caucasians and reiterates to the crowd that they're all racist. It'd boost his heat and reinforce his character.
*stereotypial white boy voice*

My name is Arthur Miller. And I am not an Arab.
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My name is Arthur Miller. And I am not an Arab.
Arab <> Terrorist....
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:52 PM   #73
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Did anyone else notice that Tazz kept referring to Hassan as Hussan?
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I noticed that. Did you notice in Big Show's promo on his last appearance on Smackdown when he was talking about Hassan he refered to him as "Muhammad Hussein"?
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No, I didn't. Did it sound intentional, like sarcastically?
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Also, Did you notice on RAW 2 weeks ago when JR and King kept refering to Carlito as "Caribbean Cool Carlito"?
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No, I didn't. Did it sound intentional, like sarcastically?
Nah you could tell it wasn't intentional. Big Show just got mixed up.
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Smackdown didn't air this Thursday in Seattle because it was pre-empted by a Mariners game. They're airing it Saturday. It will be interesting to see if UPN decides to cut out the segment. Hopefully it stays: I for one would like to see what all the fuss is about.
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Its not that big of a thing, just a bunch of guys in masks..(Done before I can point out 2 or 3 instences) Came out and beat on the undertaker. (Those instences werent all on the Undertaker) And I bet will never see the mask men again (Cause were supposed to forget they ever exsisted. (Cause, I still remember)
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