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I like Sin Cara 11 18.03%
I am not in accordance with the views of Sin Cara 15 24.59%
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:01 PM   #41
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Kind of over Mexican wrestlers wearing masks and being high flyers, probably why I'm really digging Del Rio, he breaks the stereotype, and I'd rather watch more technical wrestling than a hurricanrana-thon.
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:05 PM   #42
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Pretty much.

The main one is just people drawing Sin Cara over "60's Spiderman", which is already a "meme".
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:06 PM   #43
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I like Sin Cara, I think he's a very good wrestler. However, the way he's currently portrayed, especially the dimming of the lights most of the time he wrestles, is leading him nowhere.

I still say having him feud with Mysterio may be the way to go.

Or have him turn heel and win the Tag Team Titles with Alberto Del Rio.
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:08 PM   #44
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They're probably gonna go Mysterio vs Sin Cara at WrestleMania this year assuming they can actually stay healthy and drug free.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:36 PM   #45
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Sin Cara's "heat ceiling" will remain low so long as he doesn't give promos. He could do heel promos in Spanish to exploit the "evil foreigner never speaks English" stereotype, but for trying to be a face, it's pretty tough to pull off without speaking the lingua franca of the U.S. Even Spider-Man speaks in his movies and TV shows!
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:43 PM   #46
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The fact that he doesn't speak English makes it hard to connect with him. I wish Hunico kept the mantel of Sin Cara
I think Hunico could get over as a face better than Cara can. Have Camacho blindside Hunico after failing to win the tag titles and have Hunico defeat Camacho in a "best of 3" series of PPV matches.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:06 PM   #47
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Kind of unfair to judge the character when he's not really been given any programs to work with. I'll wait to see how this feud with Rhodes goes.

Personally, I think you need guys like him to serve no other real purpose than to put on a really good match at ppv's. He and Hunico tore it down, the last ppv they fought, and I'll bet the match with Rhodes will be great as well.

I've seen his work in mexico, and I know what he's capable of. They need to let him wrestle and sacrifice a few tout segments that no one is going to miss.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:06 PM   #48
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:12 PM   #49
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Hes fine, its just that he probably wont be anything more than a glorified midcarder given the limitations highlighted in this thread.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:13 PM   #50
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The fact that he doesn't speak English makes it hard to connect with him. I wish Hunico kept the mantel of Sin Cara
Rey Mysterio Jr didn't speak for a long time in WCW, and the fans had no problem connecting with him.

I think that if WWE had brought him in, and had let him just do his thing, just go out and wrestle and show what he can do, it would've been better for him.

Instead, they bring him in, give him a big entrance, give him pyro, dim the light for his matches. The expectations and the pressure were too great from the beginning.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:05 AM   #52
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Not to mention he went from lucha libre style right to debuting on raw. Never had the benefit of learning the difference of style in fcw.

That was their biggest mistake, imo.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:07 AM   #53
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Yeah, even Alberto Del Rio had some time down in FCW.
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I like Sin Cara, I think he's a very good wrestler. However, the way he's currently portrayed, especially the dimming of the lights most of the time he wrestles, is leading him nowhere.

I still say having him feud with Mysterio may be the way to go.

Or have him turn heel and win the Tag Team Titles with Alberto Del Rio.
I know Joey Styles explained Sin Cara's background on the WWE website, but the average fan doesn't know Sin Cara was considered a legend outside the U.S. So it someone like Heath Slater grabbed a microphone and said, "Who do you think you are, SEEN CAR-AH, getting special lights for the entirety of your matches?" then the fans might cheer the logic at calling out the disparity / favoritism by production officials.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:55 AM   #55
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Out of all of the Sin Cara matches that I've seen thus far (and yes, I've only seen his WWE work, so I've got nothing to say about Mistico), the only match that stands out to me is a match he had with Daniel Bryan (when Bryan was still a blundering idiot winning pretty much nothing) and the Sin Cara Negro feud (where he wasn't even the best part). I WANT to like Sin Cara...but there's been nothing to appreciate him for yet.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:29 AM   #56
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Rey Mysterio Jr didn't speak for a long time in WCW, and the fans had no problem connecting with him.

I think that if WWE had brought him in, and had let him just do his thing, just go out and wrestle and show what he can do, it would've been better for him.

Instead, they bring him in, give him a big entrance, give him pyro, dim the light for his matches. The expectations and the pressure were too great from the beginning.
Mysterio also worked with a lot of guys who worked the same Lucha libre style as him, but when he came to WWE he adapted to that style as well.

Sin cara doesn't really have that luxury. And even if he managed to work the WWE style (which I believe he can do), how much further can he really go? I just think the character at the moment has severe limitations.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:52 AM   #57
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:10 AM   #58
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I dont get why hasn't learned English yet, WTF? That's what he should have been doing during his drug suspension. But no, just another immigrant too lazy the learn the language of the country he's in. At least Of the River speaks English. He should piss off back to Mexico.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:23 PM   #59
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Mysterio also worked with a lot of guys who worked the same Lucha libre style as him, but when he came to WWE he adapted to that style as well.

Sin cara doesn't really have that luxury. And even if he managed to work the WWE style (which I believe he can do), how much further can he really go? I just think the character at the moment has severe limitations.
I can see him being IC or US champion. He doesn't HAVE to go further than that. Being involed with those titles will give him a chance to have longer, more entertaining matches, which is what he should be there for.

Also, if the WWE network gets up and running this century, he can be in that cruiserweight show.
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:39 PM   #60
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anyone notice they had to change his entrance when he came back from his injury so he wouldn't botch it anymore?.....LOL.....bottom line WWE has no cruiserweight division or guys that can really carry lucha libre style match except for Evan Bourne, Kofi Kingston, Rey Rey, and Hunico. Spot monkey is a spot monkey and that has no longevity in WWE. Time to head back to mexico in my opinion where you can work your craft where everyone works a similar style mostly.
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:42 PM   #61
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being a spot monkey and using the lucha libre style are not the same thing
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I think we should let Triple H weigh in with his superior ability to evaluate WWE talent:
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:30 PM   #64
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I think that people are way too hard on Sin Cara. He was called up too early and too much pressure was put on him, but that's because the dude was a legitimate major attraction down in Mexico. Give him the time to develop in the WWE and he will be a major star there in time, too.

He's already gotten so much more comfortable. Working with Rey Mysterio is perhaps the smartest thing the WWE has done with Sin Cara since debuting him yet. Also, the dude does not need to promo -- his mystique is the attraction. That being said, that will mean a slow rise where great performances and stories told over months will establish a secure bond with audiences.

I'm hoping that Cody Rhodes wins back the IC Title very shortly, and we get a Title vs. Mask match between the two at Hell in a Cell, or something, where Sin Cara beats Rhodes and gets a few months with the Intercontinental Title. They could probably stretch out a Sin Cara IC Title reign until a match with Rey Mysterio at WrestleMania at this point. And since Sin Cara would probably go over Rey, he could hold the title until Extreme Rules, at the very least.

I'm not really keen on Sin Cara being given the pressures of a champion just yet, but I think Sin Cara would surprise a lot of people as a mid-card champion. It at least gives the guy something to do.
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Nope.

I don't care about Rey Mysterio either. He's been hogging airtime with the same boring feuds for years now.

But they sell merchandise so neither is going anywhere in the near future.
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I'm not really keen on Sin Cara being given the pressures of a champion just yet, but I think Sin Cara would surprise a lot of people as a mid-card champion. It at least gives the guy something to do.
Like cut a promo?
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Sin Cara should not cut promos.
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Vignettes should be used to explain the motivations of the Sin Cara character.
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No they shouldn't.

That's lazy.
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It's the exact opposite of lazy. It calls for creative and well-presented innovation, really.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:26 PM   #71
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Vignettes should be used to explain the motivations of the Sin Cara character.
He can use his vigorous pointing skills to get across his emotions and motivations.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:55 PM   #72
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Sin Cara does a great job of emoting through the mask.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:12 PM   #73
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:18 PM   #74
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They should give Sin Cara the gimmick of a Giant Chicken. Like under his mask, he is just a Giant Chicken.

Heels like Cody would be all "He's a chicken, I tell you! A GIANT CHICKEN!!" and try to unmask him to prove it. They won't succeed, and will never be believed.
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Cody Rhodes' line towards Sin Cara on SmackDown was great. These four men are working so well together. I hope that Cody wins the IC Title at Night of Champions after hitting Rey Mysterio with the belt and stealing the fall, leading to Rhodes vs. Sin Cara at Hell in a Cell, while The Miz and Rey Mysterio continue their rivalry away from the title.
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No. I find him to be a more boring, yet less annoying version of Rey Mysterio.
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I voted 'meh', because that literally is my reaction. I'm just not bothered by that he's on my TV. I know i probably should be, but i'm just not. Maybe i will in the future but just not right now.
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I voted meh because option 2 was unclear to me.
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