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Old 07-01-2008, 02:10 AM   #1
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Y'know, as someone who paid $40 to watch Night of Champions last night, and chose NOT to watch RAW tonight, I would have very much appreciated seeing Punk cash in his Money in the Bank contract on the PPV. You know, the one that I paid to see.

Fucking WWE.
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Old 07-01-2008, 02:10 AM   #2
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Also, here's for a Punk heel turn so we can see Punk vs. Michaels at Summerslam.
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I'm actually hoping for John Cena to turn heel and feud with Punk. I know it is unlikely that the WWE would turn Punk, but something for WrestleMania could be very cool.
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Old 07-01-2008, 02:40 AM   #4
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Looks good in my sig, but thought I should throw it out to all. Plus is makes the thread look that much better.
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Old 07-01-2008, 02:45 AM   #5
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I wouldn't mind a Cm Punk / Chris Jericho feud for the title.
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Also that's a cool picture of Punk except for his smile lol.
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Old 07-01-2008, 02:55 AM   #7
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WWE World Champion: CM PUnk
TNA Champ: Samoa Joe
WWE Women's Champ: Mickie James
NOAH GHC Heavyweight Title: Takeshi Morishima
TNA Tag champs L.A.X (Homicide)

ROH Alumni fucking represent!
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Old 07-01-2008, 02:57 AM   #8
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Also, not building him may not be bad. IF they use this to get him over as a mega face, only to pull the carpet out from under the fans and turn him, letting him go back to his asshole straight edge character. They could do it perfectly to, just do it slowly.
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:01 AM   #9
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:12 AM   #10
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lol that is a fucked up nameplate.
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:49 AM   #11
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I'm thinking that it is just a temporary nameplate until they get a nice looking one for him. At least, I hope it is. You can tell that Punk is genuinely excited about having the big gold belt, too. Good for him.

WWKD already pointed out that ROH has a lot of champions representing out there (the big three being the top champions of the WWE, TNA and NOAH), but looking within the WWE: CM Punk is World Heavyweight Champion, Kofi Kingston is IC Champion, Mark Henry is ECW Champion, Matt Hardy is US Champion, John Morrison and The Miz are WWE Tag Team Champions; that's a lot of ECW representatives holding WWE belts.
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:58 AM   #12
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You're right, I forgot about the Triple Threat.

However once upon a time, the ECW Title was considered one of the Big Three Titles, however it has dropped since then, and alot of people consider it the same as a Second-Tier Championship.

I'm not trying to diss on Punk because I love him, but He has pretty much been a mid-card guy breaking into the Main Event.

Also, You need to change your sig to include my new name into the group Noid.
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Old 07-01-2008, 04:42 AM   #13
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Wait, doesn't this mean by proxy, that Chavo would also be a credible world champ, since he beat Punk for the ECW title?
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no build up, transitional champion at best.Cena will be champ very soon.
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Old 07-01-2008, 05:39 AM   #15
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It's gonna hurt Punk in the long run.
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Old 07-01-2008, 06:44 AM   #16
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Im Noid. Most marks cant tell you who Beat who three months ago. They live in the now.

The WWE did a great job of putting Punk over last night IMHO, and those Smarks loved it. He Brought a title to raw, beat the guy making fun of JR in OK. and beat the guy that took Cena out.

Punk is the god of Kids right now. He is also over with alot of smarks, so they have it all nailed.

Now I agree they will fuck this up, and ruin Punk, but last night was good stuff.
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You people bitch about everything. You get your wishes and complain they're not done right. Watch the show or don't
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:03 AM   #19
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This whole thing reminds me of when Bret won the title out of nowhere in 92. I loved it then, and I love this now, it's a great way to make an instant main eventer, he's over, he can work and he can talk.

It's a way to get the IWC back into the WWE product, which in turn can generate more viewers, if that happens, we might be seeing more of what we want and less of what we don't.

I don't see him having the title for long though, potentially every main guy they have on the card could beat him one on one and it wouldn't be a shock, however, this could be the undercard champion that Rey Mysterio wished he could of been. As long as he's not overcomming the odds at the scale of Cena that is.

Rather than over analysis what could/would and should happen, I'm just going to enjoy this moment right now, this is the first time one of the 'our guys' won the belt since Benoit, as in someone who the IWC championed for years, weather he has it for a day or a year, I will always remember feeding my little boy at 4am, switching Raw on to see the overun and hearing Lillian Garcia introducing the NEW World Heavyweight Champion to take on JBL, I then put my baby to sleep, went downstairs and watched the whole thing on Sky Plus, the only other time I've been that compelled to do something like that was the return of Y2J, nothing else had made me want to stay up for RAW
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I thought the situation was perfect, here was Edge, who used the MiTB briefcase at the most opportunistic times, getting a dose of his own medicine.

This is more than I ever thought WWE would push him.


Jeff Hardy is killing himself right about now as that could have been him.
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I thought the situation was perfect, here was Edge, who used the MiTB briefcase at the most opportunistic times, getting a dose of his own medicine.

This is more than I ever thought WWE would push him.


Jeff Hardy is killing himself right about now as that could have been him.
There's hope for Jeff, he could always win the title off Smackdown from........

Oh well nevermind
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If the guy cant keep Maria, i truely doubt he manages to keep this belt for more then a couple weeks.
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PUNK IS NOT COMING OUT
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Punk's not coming out, deal.
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Punk is a World Heavyweight Champion and got to bone Maria. He beats me if lifetime achievement poker and takes all the chips.
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So ecstatic.

Anyway, I'm thinking that Batista will be the one who takes the belt off Punk down the line...jealousy that Punk actually was the one to beat Edge and that Bats did all the work. Batista wins the title and the mandatory rematch, and we get Cena winning the Rumble again, and there's your WM main event I guess.
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So ecstatic.

Anyway, I'm thinking that Batista will be the one who takes the belt off Punk down the line...jealousy that Punk actually was the one to beat Edge and that Bats did all the work. Batista wins the title and the mandatory rematch, and we get Cena winning the Rumble again, and there's your WM main event I guess.
This is EXACTLY what I was thinking when I watched that segment.

They have been talking about turning Batista, this would be a great way. However, I thought it would be Batista at the end helping him keep the title. Which would be like Batista is basically his bigger buddy saving his title reign. Would suck for Punk, but I dont think he's the long term champion, so it doesn't matter.

The way RAW ended, it made me think they will do Cena vs Punk vs JBL, and I dont think Punk comes out of that with the title.

Great show though IMO.
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It's also a bit of a masterstroke having CM Punk win the World Title in Oklahoma. If Punk were a politician, he'd probably do better in blue states more so than red. This helps Punk connect to the southern audience a bit more (championing Jim Ross and all).
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Alright, here's my thoughts on the matter. I thought it was incredible watching it last night. The whole program was a great show. Up and Down the entire program. It was a nice breath of fresh air. But don't expect it to last long folks.

Anyway, back to Punk. Like I said, very cool segment. I do agree with Rob on certain points. I actually think Punk should of won the Title a while ago. He had more momentum back then. Last night he kind of acted like a heel. Coming in when Batista already did all the work and then jumping up and down saying hurry up and ring the bell. Like he didn't want to even give Edge a fight. Little odd for a babyface. Really, the whole win was cheap and I do wish he could of won it in a match on PPV.

But like someone else said, this is 2008. Belts are worth a crap. Nothing is built anymore. Everything is rushed. And most things are done for the now. It's terrible and not the way to build a show, but it's realistic. So in saying that, Punks win was fun. It came off great on live TV. I thought they did a good job of saving his win from being cheap by having him beat JBL at the end of the show.

How long will his run last? It will end at Summerslam, if not sooner. It definately does not look like they are positioning him as a long term champ.
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Yeah, I sorta thought it was heelish on Punk's part...but then again in this situation I think it worked because it was Edge, who won the belt twice in the same manner so it was all coming back to bite him in the ass. If it was some other random heel though it'd prolly feel like "eh".

At first I was thinking we'd see a build to a Cena/JBL/Punk 3-way, but after Cryme Tyme's random intervention...I dunno, maybe we'll see JBL side up with DiBiase and Rhodes, the "best squad money can buy" or something. It'll be a temp feud obviously, only running till GAB.

This would free Punk up to have a proper match with Edge at the PPV...even though they are on different shows, you have to almighty former champion's rematch clause as a tailor-made excuse. But then again I'm not sure who HHH would feud with in the interim.

I'm just really interested in seeing how this all plays out.
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I think it's a great way to do it by the way. It comes out of nowhere but it makes a big impact, it's a splash.

By the way, I think it's because WWE is really desperate to make a change and turn the corner with new talent. Look at the champions other than HHH. They have Hogan and Warrior stars in Cena and Batista but at the same time WWE is probably looking for a face who is over among other fans, someone who's more of an HBK or Bret like star.

Could he have been built up better? Yea sure but in any situation things can be better. It's not like everyone is gonna get the 2 year IC title reign and then the Rumble win and title win in the main event at Mania.
I think it's great. All that matters is that they make him a main eventer now, he was already ECW champion and MITB, thats really no different than if they had thrown the IC belt on him for a year. He's over as fuck and this is just a launching pad
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Even if he's a transitional champion who gives a fuck. Mick Foley was a transitional champion. So was Bret at first. Edge started out as one too.
Once you've won the title the first time management is much more likely to put it back on you at some point when a change is needed rather than risk someone new.
Even if he exists as a transitional champion, or takes a while to break out of that role, he's still a made man and in the main event for the forseeable future.
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I am really feeling heel turns for John Cena and Batista. Don't ask me why, but CM Punk having to defend the belt against them, Chris Jericho, Randy Orton, Kane and maybe William Regal would make for some pretty sweet storylines.
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I am really feeling heel turns for John Cena and Batista. Don't ask me why, but CM Punk having to defend the belt against them, Chris Jericho, Randy Orton, Kane and maybe William Regal would make for some pretty sweet storylines.
I see Batista turning and beating Punk at some point. Summerslam like I said. But the rest I cannot see. They desperately need a top heel and a Batista/Cena program is looming

I'm almost believing the reason they gave Punk the Title last night was to get the title on Raw in the most sufficient way as to not make Edge look bad and to get a World Title on Raw. It was a quick out for them. Batista kicks the shit out of Edge and Punk finishes it. This allows thier flagship show to get their World Title back and allows Edge to move into a feud with Trips.

I just don't see Punk lasting long at all and his reign is going to be filled with Cena/Batista in the mixture. I just hope they don't make him look like an ass. i.e. make him look like a weakling compared to the others. Unfortunately, I see the Chris Benoit treatment ahead for this short title run.
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I see Batista turning and beating Punk at some point. Summerslam like I said. But the rest I cannot see. They desperately need a top heel and a Batista/Cena program is looming

I'm almost believing the reason they gave Punk the Title last night was to get the title on Raw in the most sufficient way as to not make Edge look bad and to get a World Title on Raw. It was a quick out for them. Batista kicks the shit out of Edge and Punk finishes it. This allows thier flagship show to get their World Title back and allows Edge to move into a feud with Trips.

I just don't see Punk lasting long at all and his reign is going to be filled with Cena/Batista in the mixture. I just hope they don't make him look like an ass. i.e. make him look like a weakling compared to the others. Unfortunately, I see the Chris Benoit treatment ahead for this short title run.
I thought Batista might run down and interfere in the main event, costing Punk the title...anyways as long as he doesn't get Rey Rey'd, it's all good. Having Rey and Cena come out and congratulate him gave him a good rub, hopefully he'll keep interacting with the established mains
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I see Batista turning and beating Punk at some point. Summerslam like I said. But the rest I cannot see. They desperately need a top heel and a Batista/Cena program is looming

I'm almost believing the reason they gave Punk the Title last night was to get the title on Raw in the most sufficient way as to not make Edge look bad and to get a World Title on Raw. It was a quick out for them. Batista kicks the shit out of Edge and Punk finishes it. This allows thier flagship show to get their World Title back and allows Edge to move into a feud with Trips.

I just don't see Punk lasting long at all and his reign is going to be filled with Cena/Batista in the mixture. I just hope they don't make him look like an ass. i.e. make him look like a weakling compared to the others. Unfortunately, I see the Chris Benoit treatment ahead for this short title run.
You may be very right, but I think people are setting their expectations a little low with Punk winning the World Heavyweight Title. I guess the upside to that is that it's very easy to meet low expecations.

I just don't understand why they didn't just move the belt at Night of Champions if they didn't want to make a big deal out of the Punk thing. I mean, I think the switch was done on RAW to create a RAW moment, something I think the WWE really waned to do with this. If the ratings don't drop, and if the fans are vocally into Punk as WHC, I think the WWE will keep the belt on him for a while.

Batista vs. Cena may happen, but it could happen away from the World Heavyweight Title, or it could be put off until WrestleMania, or something.
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