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Old 07-22-2008, 04:35 PM   #1
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2 random things that spring to mind.

1) Lol, 450 won Reys pay rise.

2) Did Big-Show steal HBM's smile?
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:12 PM   #2
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Anyway, so hoping that half of his money goes to Eddie.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:11 AM   #3
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We established in the past that the lists with wrestlers' salaries are very false.
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:32 AM   #4
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We established in the past that the lists with wrestlers' salaries are very false.
We've also established that....

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If enough people say it long enough it becomes "true."
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:03 PM   #5
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We established in the past that the lists with wrestlers' salaries are very false.
At least it gives us something interesting to talk about. This boards been dead for a week.
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:01 PM   #6
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At least it gives us something interesting to talk about. This boards been dead for a week.
So we're talking about fake statements as though true?
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:17 AM   #7
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So we're talking about fake statements as though true?
Way to break the home run record KK.
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:13 PM   #8
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Well, there's no way to prove or disprove the notion that they are completely fake, or even close to the actual numbers these people make.

If it isn't fake though, the situation in the "news piece" at the beginning of this thread does seem to go along with the numbers presented by Wrestlescoop.
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:18 PM   #9
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Well, there's no way to prove or disprove the notion that they are completely fake, or even close to the actual numbers these people make.

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Old 07-24-2008, 10:15 AM   #10
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Now, let's talk about Shawn Michaels murdering Chris Benoit. There's no way to prove it's not true, therefore it must be true....
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:10 PM   #11
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You lost me at "Ultimate Dragon" being a Rey Mysterio rip-off to the point where I am pretty sure this post is farce.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:11 PM   #12
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Funky is going to get mad...all this bad mouthing of Ulitmo Dragon and all.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:14 PM   #13
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Its true, I say what I see, and what I saw was that Ultimate Dragon was very similar to Mysterio's style and even his apperance was similar with his mask.

It was pretty clear WWE was looking to duplicate Rey Mysterio there but clearly it didn't work and it won't work now if they try.
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Old 07-24-2008, 06:19 PM   #14
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:12 PM   #15
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Or maybe the WWE brought in a "Ultimate Dragon" and I missed it? Is this some other guy?
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:13 PM   #16
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Cause there's no way you could have seen Ultimo and say these things...
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:14 PM   #17
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Also, I'm not sure how a guy that debuted 2 years before Rey is a rip off of Rey.
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Espesiaclly not here.
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Sorry, La Parka. Looks like you will NEVER work for the WWE. Conversely, the only reason Juvi had a job is because he was de-masked.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:28 PM   #24
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To get back to the point, the WWE shouldn't let him go because he probably is a good merch mover for the kids. In terms of what he will draw ratings wise on Raw, that remains to be seen, hopefully they freshen him up somehow. There are probably oodles of better masked wrestlers out there that would love to have Rey's job, but the reason they don't is because they aren't named Rey Mysterio.
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So, let me get this straight, WWE brought in Ultimo Dragon because they wanted Rey Mysterio, not Ultimo Dragon?
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:49 PM   #29
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Ultimo Dragon vs Ultimate Dragon:
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It's like Undertaker vs. Undertaker cruiserweight style.
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Old 07-24-2008, 06:38 PM   #32
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Old 07-24-2008, 06:51 PM   #33
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Old 07-24-2008, 07:05 PM   #34
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So you can only have one lucha-mask guy per show, regardless of his race?
Its not about masks, its about the gimmicks and the in-ring "aura". Ultimo Dragon attempted to recapture Rey Mysterio's aura and failed miserabely! There are plenty of guys that have been with masks such as Hurricane and it is okay because it was obvious not an attempt to recapture the aura of Rey Mysterio.

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Oh I get it, they both do hurricanranas! I see now!
Deep down you realize that what I am saying is true and you point out one fact that proves it and act like its a joke, its not. You know what the truth is and the truth is on my side in this debate. The videos you have posted are of Ultimo Dragon in Japan and he wrestled a different kind there because in the WWE, the WWE told him to wrestle a certain way and thats what he did, he was more similar to Rey in the WWE, but he is similar even in Japan. I cant believe you are not seeing it, come on!

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So, let me get this straight, WWE brought in Ultimo Dragon because they wanted Rey Mysterio, not Ultimo Dragon?
WWE wanted to replicate the sucess of Rey Mysterio and gets 2x the money they get from Rey by bringing in a Mysterio clone, but that clone flopped and was released. It is a simple example really, I dont get the confusion people are having here.

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Would be a good solid match, your point?

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It is easy to understand the psychology of some of you. You realize that you cant hang with the fact that are on my side so you instead be little me and make fun of me to make my points sound less valid, well guess what, that doesnt mean your points are any more valid then mine because they arent get real and adress the points I am making.

Back to the topic at hand, WWE is being silly to not give Rey what he deserves, I realize the economy is poor, but Rey deserves his salary WAY more then someone like Randy Orton!
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Old 07-24-2008, 07:23 PM   #35
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It is easy to understand the psychology of some of you. You realize that you cant hang with the fact that are on my side so you instead be little me and make fun of me to make my points sound less valid, well guess what, that doesnt mean your points are any more valid then mine because they arent get real and adress the points I am making.

"Fact" was a perfect typo. The only fact you have on your side is WWE's interest in Ultimo being based on their desire for another Rey Mysterio.

The problem there is that it doesn't back up your notion that they are similar. Quite to the contrary, he was then let go primarily because he wasn't similar. Vince doesn't pay attention to shit like that, and he probably doesn't know the differing styles out there very well. You know, since his only real understanding of wrestling seems to come down to "Hoss" or "Midget."

Interesting hearing talk about psychology from someone who is showing none, who is almost certainly a sock, and who tries to insist the mountain of flaws in his "logic" amount to some sort of iron clad case.
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Old 07-24-2008, 07:12 PM   #36
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You don't ask me for my point when the point is there you stupid jackass, why don't you go fuck yourself
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Old 07-24-2008, 07:12 PM   #37
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Ah, yes, the old Vermaat "facts" line.

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Its not about masks, its about the gimmicks and the in-ring "aura". Ultimo Dragon attempted to recapture Rey Mysterio's aura and failed miserabely! There are plenty of guys that have been with masks such as Hurricane and it is okay because it was obvious not an attempt to recapture the aura of Rey Mysterio.
And the part where Ultimo came first? You WWE marks act lie if you haven't seen it on RAW it never happend.

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Deep down you realize that what I am saying is true and you point out one fact that proves it and act like its a joke, its not. You know what the truth is and the truth is on my side in this debate. The videos you have posted are of Ultimo Dragon in Japan and he wrestled a different kind there because in the WWE, the WWE told him to wrestle a certain way and thats what he did, he was more similar to Rey in the WWE, but he is similar even in Japan. I cant believe you are not seeing it, come on!
Excpet for that one where they were in WCW...and even there his style was completely different. And there's still the part that he crafted his style before Rey...

Seriously you going on about Rey being some innovator in the ring is very laughable and only shows how little your exposure to Lucha is. Rey's in ring stlye is a dime a dozen. The only thing Rey has innovated is how to disguise using the same match structure a 1,000 times and having no one catch on. What sets Rey apart is his charisma and nothing else.
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Sebastian, you are so close to getting banned right now... you don't even know kid.

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