Jurassic Park IV - Page 3

**Jeritron** · 06-02-2010, 11:40 PM

I just hope it doesn't involve Dinos in space.

**The Fraze** · 06-02-2010, 11:43 PM

I don't think they'll be so retarded to make something that is complete shit.

**XCaliber** · 06-02-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron

I just hope it doesn't involve Dinos in space.

Turok been there done that but I wouldn't count it out.

**The Fraze** · 06-02-2010, 11:50 PM

**Jeritron** · 06-02-2010, 11:50 PM

I think the sequels made the mistake of being more action/adventure oriented, and abandoning the science fiction.
I'm not saying to set it in space, or give them lasers or anything. I mean they should return to the focus of man creating dinosaurs, and what consquences it has. 15 years later, I think there is a chance to re-visit that.
It would be especially interesting if the rival company was making the same mistakes, and all new ones, and the experienced people from the first movie made use of the lessons they learned from their mistakes.

**The Fraze** · 06-02-2010, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron

I think the sequels made the mistake of being more action/adventure oriented, and abandoning the science fiction.
I'm not saying to set it in space, or give them lasers or anything. I mean they should return to the focus of man creating dinosaurs, and what consquences it has. 15 years later, I think there is a chance to re-visit that.
It would be especially interesting if the rival company was making the same mistakes, and all new ones, and the experienced people from the first movie made use of the lessons they learned from their mistakes.

Agreed.

Although I liked the sequels. The Lost World I really enjoyed, more so than III.

**Jeritron** · 06-02-2010, 11:56 PM

Well, they also came out much sooner after the original, so people had an appetite for more dinosaurs.
They couldn't really get away with not showing more dinos and dino action.
So I understand how their hands were tied there in trying to please the audience.

Now, this many years removed from the franchise, they could probably go back to slowly building towards the dinosaurs and making them have a bigger impact again. It would be a total nostalgia trip too, really.
It's been long enough that the JP T-Rex returning to the screen could be pretty epic if hyped right. Same with the Raptors.

**The Fraze** · 06-02-2010, 11:59 PM

The T-Rex was barely used in III, and it's my favorite part so I'd be excited to see it. Raptors are badass, but they freak my the fuck out much more than the T-Rex. They're like the athletes of dinosaurs.

**Jeritron** · 06-03-2010, 12:03 AM

I didn't care for the Raptors in part 3. I just didn't like the way they were used and the way they looked. I won't get into the issue of them evolving insane amounts over the course of 4 years, and the goofiness of Grant dreaming about them talking to him even though he's never seen anything of the sort. That's another story.
They just kind of jumped the shark. They should bring them back to the way they were in 1 and 2.

**XCaliber** · 06-03-2010, 12:06 AM

I'm probably one the few peeps out here that preferred 3 over Lost World I liked the fact that it was darker but having Goldbloom's character as one of the leads didn't work for me.

**Jeritron** · 06-03-2010, 12:11 AM

Having Goldblum's character as the lead would have been awesome if he was more like Ian Malcolm from the first film.
They're both heavily just Goldblum, like all his roles, but there's a definite change in the character and that's not just because of development. They sort of watered him down to be a lead.

**The Fraze** · 06-03-2010, 12:11 AM

The Raptor mystique was toyed with in III. They were intense in the original and The Lost World. I really like Goldblum, though.

**XCaliber** · 06-03-2010, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron

Having Goldblum's character as the lead would have been awesome if he was more like Ian Malcolm from the first film.
They're both heavily just Goldblum, like all his roles, but there's a definite change in the character and that's not just because of development. They sort of watered him down to be a lead.

Bingo it's like they tried adding another dimension to his persona and I never really bought it but I do rather like Goldblum he more believable as a hero in ID4 which btw I'm not sure I want a sequel done for.

**The Fraze** · 06-03-2010, 12:21 AM

Yeah, the Malcom from the original would have been better. "Chaos."

**Jeritron** · 06-03-2010, 11:33 AM

Malcom is my favorite character in the original

**The Fraze** · 06-03-2010, 11:50 AM

Must go faster.

**Reavant** · 06-03-2010, 04:20 PM

they should try bringing back Neanderthals and cromags with the dinosaurs

**Fignuts** · 06-03-2010, 04:20 PM

I guess in reality, raptors are only like 3 feet tall, at most, and the dinosaur they were actually based on in the movie was Dinonichious.(probably butchered the spelling there.) But Velociraptors sounds cooler, so they switched the names.

**Kalyx triaD** · 06-03-2010, 04:22 PM

Utah Raptors were pretty big.

**Jeritron** · 06-03-2010, 04:22 PM

I thought Utah Raptors were pretty much the exact thing from the movie?

**Kalyx triaD** · 06-03-2010, 04:22 PM

<<< Huge dinosaur mark as a pup.

**Jeritron** · 06-03-2010, 04:22 PM

Kalyx beat me to the punch. I also thought regular Velociraptors were about 6 feet. It's been a while since I've actually brushed up on my Dino knowledge though

**Kalyx triaD** · 06-03-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron

I thought Utah Raptors were pretty much the exact thing from the movie?

Utahs should be bigger, though you could say the movie raptors were just small Utahs

**Kalyx triaD** · 06-03-2010, 04:23 PM

Then again, these were frog-DNA dinos.

**Jeritron** · 06-03-2010, 04:24 PM

What's up with all these new depictions of Raptors with feathers? Fuck that noise. That doesn't sound very scary...more like a 6 foot turkey.

**Jeritron** · 06-03-2010, 04:25 PM

I marked out when Raptors were added to the Dino population of Skull Island in King Kong

**Kalyx triaD** · 06-03-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron

What's up with all these new depictions of Raptors with feathers? Fuck that noise. That doesn't sound very scary...more like a 6 foot turkey.

You'll find them scary when a raptor gives you a death stare. Also JP3 took many liberties with the raptor design to make them look scarier ('evil' eyes, longer teeth). It worked for me, though the narrative about them being smart as monkeys was a bit forced.

**Jeritron** · 06-03-2010, 04:36 PM

True, but they didn't really look any scarier to me. They just seemed faker. They were almost too polished and exotic looking, to the point where it's like the type of thing you'd see on a cheap ride or museum exhibit.

**Kalyx triaD** · 06-03-2010, 04:46 PM

Pterodactyls looked cool, though.

**Fignuts** · 06-03-2010, 04:50 PM

Feathers on the raptors was actually the correct depiction.

**Jeritron** · 06-03-2010, 04:52 PM

I know I was referring to the searching I was doing online just now, not JP3. In either case, I don't like it. I'm attached to the JP1 Raptors, regardless of their scientific accuracy.

**thedamndest** · 06-03-2010, 04:55 PM

They need to bust out the Compeys that killed Hammond.

**Jeritron** · 06-03-2010, 04:56 PM

They did, for Dieter

**thedamndest** · 06-03-2010, 04:57 PM

Was this in JPIII? I have little recollection of that.

Edit: Never mind, The Lost World. Do not remember that.

**Kalyx triaD** · 06-03-2010, 05:00 PM

Had a hard time finding Compies deadly. They're fucking chickens with an attitude.

**Jeritron** · 06-03-2010, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by thedamndest

Was this in JPIII? I have little recollection of that.

Edit: Never mind, The Lost World. Do not remember that.

Lost World

**Jeritron** · 06-03-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD

Had a hard time finding Compies deadly. They're fucking chickens with an attitude.

Yea but they pack hunt. It's the same idea as Pirahnas

**Kalyx triaD** · 06-03-2010, 05:04 PM

Don't find piranhas scary. Gold fish with attitudes.

**El Tigre** · 06-03-2010, 08:50 PM

lol. Still, I can honestly say I'd rather stick my hand in a goldfish bowl than a piranha tank.

As thrilled as I am for the continuation of one of my favorite movie series, I have two concerns:

One, as already discussed, how closely will the movie follow the latest scientific evidence concerning dinosaurs. I actually hope they only sample some tidbits and choose to use entertainment over accuracy.

Second, I'm hoping to see more experienced hunters. There was one in JP and JPLW, but they were both taken out fairly quickly. It'd be nice to see just one last the majority of the film.

**Jeritron** · 06-03-2010, 08:54 PM

Tembo didn't get taken out

06-03-2010, 12:11 AM	#92
The Fraze Fuck em' this is The War Posts: 7,928	The Raptor mystique was toyed with in III. They were intense in the original and The Lost World. I really like Goldblum, though. Last edited by The Fraze; 06-03-2010 at 12:20 AM.

06-03-2010, 04:57 PM	#114
thedamndest A Property of Matter Posts: 25,543	Was this in JPIII? I have little recollection of that. Edit: Never mind, The Lost World. Do not remember that. Last edited by thedamndest; 06-03-2010 at 05:00 PM.

06-02-2010, 11:40 PM	#81
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	I just hope it doesn't involve Dinos in space.

06-02-2010, 11:43 PM	#82
The Fraze Fuck em' this is The War Posts: 7,928	I don't think they'll be so retarded to make something that is complete shit.

06-02-2010, 11:50 PM	#84
The Fraze Fuck em' this is The War Posts: 7,928

06-02-2010, 11:56 PM	#87
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	Well, they also came out much sooner after the original, so people had an appetite for more dinosaurs. They couldn't really get away with not showing more dinos and dino action. So I understand how their hands were tied there in trying to please the audience. Now, this many years removed from the franchise, they could probably go back to slowly building towards the dinosaurs and making them have a bigger impact again. It would be a total nostalgia trip too, really. It's been long enough that the JP T-Rex returning to the screen could be pretty epic if hyped right. Same with the Raptors.

06-02-2010, 11:59 PM	#88
The Fraze Fuck em' this is The War Posts: 7,928	The T-Rex was barely used in III, and it's my favorite part so I'd be excited to see it. Raptors are badass, but they freak my the fuck out much more than the T-Rex. They're like the athletes of dinosaurs.

06-03-2010, 12:03 AM	#89
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	I didn't care for the Raptors in part 3. I just didn't like the way they were used and the way they looked. I won't get into the issue of them evolving insane amounts over the course of 4 years, and the goofiness of Grant dreaming about them talking to him even though he's never seen anything of the sort. That's another story. They just kind of jumped the shark. They should bring them back to the way they were in 1 and 2.

06-03-2010, 12:06 AM	#90
XCaliber Posts: 3,743	I'm probably one the few peeps out here that preferred 3 over Lost World I liked the fact that it was darker but having Goldbloom's character as one of the leads didn't work for me.

06-03-2010, 12:21 AM	#94
The Fraze Fuck em' this is The War Posts: 7,928	Yeah, the Malcom from the original would have been better. "Chaos."

06-03-2010, 11:33 AM	#95
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	Malcom is my favorite character in the original

06-03-2010, 11:50 AM	#96
The Fraze Fuck em' this is The War Posts: 7,928	Must go faster.

06-03-2010, 04:20 PM	#97
Reavant Donkey Punch Elite Posts: 9,910	they should try bringing back Neanderthals and cromags with the dinosaurs

06-03-2010, 04:20 PM	#98
Fignuts Hey Mister! Posts: 54,952	I guess in reality, raptors are only like 3 feet tall, at most, and the dinosaur they were actually based on in the movie was Dinonichious.(probably butchered the spelling there.) But Velociraptors sounds cooler, so they switched the names.

06-03-2010, 04:22 PM	#99
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,950	Utah Raptors were pretty big.

06-03-2010, 04:22 PM	#100
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	I thought Utah Raptors were pretty much the exact thing from the movie?

06-03-2010, 04:22 PM	#101
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,950	<<< Huge dinosaur mark as a pup.

06-03-2010, 04:22 PM	#102
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	Kalyx beat me to the punch. I also thought regular Velociraptors were about 6 feet. It's been a while since I've actually brushed up on my Dino knowledge though

06-03-2010, 04:23 PM	#104
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,950	Then again, these were frog-DNA dinos.

06-03-2010, 04:24 PM	#105
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	What's up with all these new depictions of Raptors with feathers? Fuck that noise. That doesn't sound very scary...more like a 6 foot turkey.

06-03-2010, 04:25 PM	#106
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	I marked out when Raptors were added to the Dino population of Skull Island in King Kong

06-03-2010, 04:36 PM	#108
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	True, but they didn't really look any scarier to me. They just seemed faker. They were almost too polished and exotic looking, to the point where it's like the type of thing you'd see on a cheap ride or museum exhibit.

06-03-2010, 04:46 PM	#109
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,950	Pterodactyls looked cool, though.

06-03-2010, 04:50 PM	#110
Fignuts Hey Mister! Posts: 54,952	Feathers on the raptors was actually the correct depiction.

06-03-2010, 04:52 PM	#111
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	I know I was referring to the searching I was doing online just now, not JP3. In either case, I don't like it. I'm attached to the JP1 Raptors, regardless of their scientific accuracy.

06-03-2010, 04:55 PM	#112
thedamndest A Property of Matter Posts: 25,543	They need to bust out the Compeys that killed Hammond.

06-03-2010, 04:56 PM	#113
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	They did, for Dieter

06-03-2010, 05:00 PM	#115
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,950	Had a hard time finding Compies deadly. They're fucking chickens with an attitude.

06-03-2010, 05:04 PM	#118
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,950	Don't find piranhas scary. Gold fish with attitudes.

06-03-2010, 08:50 PM	#119
El Tigre Posts: 195	lol. Still, I can honestly say I'd rather stick my hand in a goldfish bowl than a piranha tank. As thrilled as I am for the continuation of one of my favorite movie series, I have two concerns: One, as already discussed, how closely will the movie follow the latest scientific evidence concerning dinosaurs. I actually hope they only sample some tidbits and choose to use entertainment over accuracy. Second, I'm hoping to see more experienced hunters. There was one in JP and JPLW, but they were both taken out fairly quickly. It'd be nice to see just one last the majority of the film.

06-03-2010, 08:54 PM	#120
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	Tembo didn't get taken out