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I'm not pro-Jinder Mahal either, so that point is a total non-sequitur. I think Mahal is proven -- proven to be terrible. I absolutely consider giving him the WWE Title a mistake. So how does that make giving it to Ryder good? |
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Still can't believe WWE fed Balor to Kane twice just to build him up for a Braun feud that won't help Braun when a few jobbers or lower level stars would have been a lot more easier.
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I think there's more behind it than that. There's something petty and passive aggressive about it.
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Last time someone actually managed to out-power Vince was with the Sasha-Charlotte Cell match. Think Vince didn't want it in the Cell, fought against them doing any big spots, and didn't want it as the main event. Resulted in a lot of backlash within management that he actually relented. |
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Oddly enough, Vince was right about that Cell. |
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Yeah only because WWE didn't have it as a feud ender and he still managed to get some restrictions placed on the match.
The build to the match took a sharp downturn roughly around the same time those backstage bickering started to happen. Even led to one point of Foley implying online fans can claim any match as their own main event regardless where it is on the card. |
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Wouldn't surprise me if Balor is the first guy out at Survivor Series.
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But it also wouldn't surprise me if Vince seriously believes that "20 Years of Kane" is the best story they have.
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I believe in Joe Hendry
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Why is it when Raw is across the pond they mail it in the entire episode?
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Konnor started in developmental 12 years ago. What's he been worth? And then he gets to go home to Krissy Vaine. Unbelievable.
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Hmm..this could be interesting
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Best wrestler named Pete.
Dunne or Gas |
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3 Dicks Out For Trips
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3 Dicks Out For Trips
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Mean Street Posse can probably work better than half the roster now, to be honest.
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Pete Dunne needs a tag partner last name Well
Well Dunne again |
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Pete Dunne needs no other human company.
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I think this has to be the record for the coldest RAW thread ever.
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I said this somewhere before, but I stand by it: If Triple H were given his own autonomous show to run opposite Vince, as sort of a friendly bet, Vince steamrolls Triple H.
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RIP SABU
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3 Dicks Out For Trips
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I'm being cynical. I've thought for the longest time that they should try to get NXT on TV so that they can get something out of it. They're already filming it, you might as well try to shop it to either USA, ESPN or Syfy. I also think they should do an NBC show heading into WrestleMania every year though, so what do I know? I do know that NXT performs better than 205 Live which means it probably has a few hundred thousand people watching it, which means it is more over than the Broken Hardy stuff. |
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No idea, but even if it does, I think it's a clear example of what Triple H could (emphasis there on "could") do for the main roster were Vince not so tightly clinging to control over them. IJS.
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I do wonder if Triple H takes over RAW, for example, if anything changes. I wonder if it even gets worse. People just assume it would change to logical booking. Triple H has been involved in some incredibly ego-driven and nonsensical shit that has legitimately hurt the business over his career. As he moves away from the ring, it's surely getting better, but every year we still have to get that Triple H match at WrestleMania that means nothing. Triple H also overestimates himself and his "kids" when it comes to what a star is. Who has NXT truly produced? You can claim that Vince and Kevin Dunn fuck it up with guys and gals, and that sometimes they don't even try. I will hear that argument. But I will also raise the point that Triple H gets to keep talent off shows in NXT, he gets to pick their spots, gets to avoid overexposing them. He also gets to hide their weaknesses, which becomes harder and harder with the weekly grind and exposure of RAW and SmackDown. |
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Sheamus and Cesaro will drive ford f150s to the ring at WM.
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So they should have the guts to make everyone champ to see if they'd be good at it?
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Skibbidy Lock Jaw
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Said it before...... but I liked the women's cell match and thought it was good as the main event........
But that's just my two cents..... |
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I'm sure Charlotte/Sasha is far from the worst main event in company history. I like both girls actually -- Charlotte is the closest they have to a female star and Sasha and is over. But Triple H got to coddle Sasha and protect her in NXT. When things go awry in a match she's lost, because she's had a very narrow field of training. |
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Lol hit by an F150
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I'd say Kevin Owens has been a pretty successful by-product of the NXT machine, and yeah, I get it: That's one guy out of hundreds, but he's been one of the brighter spots on SDL for a while now.
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I'm talking about guys from scratch. Keep in mind that NXT has been NXT for five years now. That's most of Cornette's tenure with OVW. Triple H has been head of developmental for seven years now. Within two years Cornette gave the WWE John Cena, Randy Orton, Brock Lesnar and Batista. Granted, a lot of that was on those talents themselves, and they did get better when they actually got to the WWE. Triple H has got Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman, Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss. But Lance Storm has admitted to having a hand in helping to train Charlotte as quickly as she got ready. Hey, that's part of it, and Triple H has made sure a lot of resources go into developmental, but they are getting less out with more is my point. |
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OH NO.
IT'S THE STALE DAY, YES IT IS!!! ![]() |
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Umm nice of New Day to provide a mid-match break for the crowd.
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