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Old 06-26-2010, 11:22 PM   #1
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In Vince's lifetime and after
If he quits before he goes, or if he stays on till he goes....

Within his lifetime as "head" of what we are seeing and generally the guy who everything goes through, do you think we will ever see a non PG era again, harking back to 1995-2001, dare I say it the attitude era.

Also, who do you think will take over his role? Not necessarily on TV, but in general as the head of it all. But yes, also, do you think they will come on TV like he does also?

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Old 06-26-2010, 11:52 PM   #2
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Old 06-26-2010, 11:59 PM   #3
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:15 AM   #4
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Ted Turner would take over.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:19 AM   #5
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I think so. You often hear that old statement that the wrestling business is cyclical. I have no doubt that when the stars align, Linda McMahon's either well established or has stopped trying, and John Cena stops being marketable -- you'll see the appropriate changes to keep up with the times.

Triple H and Stephanie McMahon will no doubt take over, and I could actually see Stephanie McMahon taking the occasional on-air role as WWE Chairperson. And when he's retired, I could see Triple H playing a constant on-air authority figure role. Future General Manager of RAW, mark my words.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:27 AM   #6
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can someone pls explain to me how wwe pg has worsened the product in any way
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:29 AM   #7
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naw i don't see hhh being able to be gm he would do hour long segments
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:42 AM   #8
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can someone pls explain to me how wwe pg has worsened the product in any way
The fact that the industry runs off violence. Simulated, staged, whatever -- true -- but violence. The concept of toning down this violence, and editting the emotions that drive this violence forward with forced insults (I'm getting so sick of hearing "bully"), tones down the product to a point where it just cannot suck you in at bad times, and at the worst can even ruin your suspension of disbelief.

A responsible parent does not look at the WWE as something that can teach its children good morals. The Bellas are still on the arm of a different guest host each week, despite being labelled as "sexy, smart and powerful." The women are still two-dimensional male fantasies, and the problems are still solved with violence rather than intellect and logic. It may be good to have characters that children can relate to and get behind, don't me wrong -- but when the product finds itself betraying its very roots and becoming a paradox in standing against concepts it is based on, it becomes hard to follow.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:53 AM   #9
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if u look back at where this all started minus the divas who no1 would give a shit about either way this is wrestling back to its roots i mean wrestling was in county fairs and it was something father took their sons to and wwe is recreating that in this age imo
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:56 AM   #10
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to me the only thing that really made the attitude era what it was was austin i feel his was the only character that would have been ruined by pg
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:07 AM   #11
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I think so. You often hear that old statement that the wrestling business is cyclical. I have no doubt that when the stars align, Linda McMahon's either well established or has stopped trying, and John Cena stops being marketable -- you'll see the appropriate changes to keep up with the times.

Triple H and Stephanie McMahon will no doubt take over, and I could actually see Stephanie McMahon taking the occasional on-air role as WWE Chairperson. And when he's retired, I could see Triple H playing a constant on-air authority figure role. Future General Manager of RAW, mark my words.
This is almost my response... The only thing I want to add is that, will they go back to something NOT PG, yes... Will it be soon, NO WAY... 2 reasons... 1) Making toooooo much $$$ being kid friendly nowadays... 2) Us as an american people need to stop being so fucking PC about every GD thing.... Jokes are funny and not ALWAYS meant to hurt someone,just meant to be funny... Somebody always wants to be offended and/or is looking for the quick $...
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Old 06-27-2010, 08:25 AM   #12
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can someone pls explain to me how wwe pg has worsened the product in any way
It hasn't. People need a scapegoat, though.
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Old 06-27-2010, 11:19 AM   #13
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PG has worsened the product in that the writers had a knack for writing really good edgy programming. When it comes to PG, they are pretty attrocious. (See R DX vs. PG DX. Just one example.)

PG is obviously not to the writers strength. However, you CAN put out an amazing product under a PG rating so I guess I'd blame the writing more than the PG restriction.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:12 PM   #14
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PG has worsened the product in that the writers had a knack for writing really good edgy programming. When it comes to PG, they are pretty attrocious. (See R DX vs. PG DX. Just one example.)
That only works if you operate from the erroneous notion that the writers are the same and the only thing that's changed is the accepted rating.

Next paragraph, you say that we can blame the writing more than the PG, which is more correct. WWE started hiring hollywood writers a few years back, moving away from guys with wrestling knowledge and experience, and so that's a major change that would impact the writing more than any restriction on content. I can't prove it, but I'm fairly well grounded when I say I bet they'd write just as bad if they were allowed to write TV MA or similar.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:18 PM   #15
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I think if you're sub 16, it's a great product. Which is pretty near their target these days. It has only worsened the product for the guys who have been around for ages. But you can just feel the energy within the crowd when the NXT guys show up and go the closest thing near to the Attitude era we've had in years.

I guess you could argue how Orton is too. I just can't help but think having PG writing for him is holding that characters true potential back.
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Orton's pretty one dimensional. It's an enjoyable dimension, but I'm pretty sure the biggest thing holding Orton back is Orton.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:37 PM   #17
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I wonder if asking for a cigarette from a kiddy rammed fan line is holding him back.

Linda frowns, I'm sure.
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:33 PM   #18
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Damn it...

I agree with KK on this one.
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I wonder if asking for a cigarette from a kiddy rammed fan line is holding him back.

Linda frowns, I'm sure.
LOL. Did that happen? I must have missed it.
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