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Old 11-26-2010, 12:44 PM   #1
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Should WWE bring back the King of the Ring PPV?
Instead of doing these crappy ass events on Raw!. Should they bring back the original King of the Ring concept pay per view?. In my eyes I think so it was a lot entertaining back around the 1996 era... It also made Austin Famous
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:11 PM   #2
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Yes. As long as they do it correctly, whereas it actually leads to a push, and not just some arbitrary title to give someone.
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:57 PM   #3
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Rather have that than any of these shitty gimmick PPV's anyway.
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Yes. As long as they do it correctly, whereas it actually leads to a push, and not just some arbitrary title to give someone.
To be fair, Regal fucked up that push.
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Old 11-26-2010, 02:02 PM   #5
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Wouldn't mind at all if going forward they replaced the TLC PPV with King of the Ring.
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Old 11-26-2010, 02:03 PM   #6
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Wouldn't mind at all if going forward they replaced the TLC PPV with King of the Ring.
What he said. but also didn't King Booker fuck it up to?
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Booker won the title after winning KOTR...
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Definitely. Cut back the PPVs to five...Royal Rumble, WrestleMania, King Of The Ring, SummerSlam, and Survivor Series. And bring back Saturday Night's Main Event and/or The Main Event for the months they have no PPVs.
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Old 11-26-2010, 03:27 PM   #10
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Cutting back to five loses a lot of money so it is not going to happen.

It's better on Raw. It gives them a chance to focus on eight guys who wouldn't all normally be on a PPV in singles matches. The prestige of a PPV isn't real anyway. After all, the guy has won the same tournament.
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To be fair, Regal fucked up that push.
I meant in general, though.
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In general, the KOTR generally gets a push.
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They should bring it back..... a 64 Man Tournament with Qualifying, 1st Round & 2nd Round Matches airing on Raw, Smackdown & Superstars in the weeks leading to the PPV and the Quarters & Semis occuring on the PPV itself.....
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They should bring it back..... a 64 Man Tournament with Qualifying, 1st Round & 2nd Round Matches airing on Raw, Smackdown & Superstars in the weeks leading to the PPV and the Quarters & Semis occuring on the PPV itself.....
I wouldn't do a 64 man tournament for the King of the Ring. Maybe for a world title.
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What he said. but also didn't King Booker fuck it up to?
I'd almost go as far as to say that King Booker used winning the tournament to his advantage better than anybody else who ever won it.

As far as the PPV, it would be cool, but I'm just happy it's around in any capacity. Raw is fine.
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Are there even 64 workers on regular TV?
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WWE has like 85 wrestlers on the roster, not including announcers and non-wrestlers. Maybe 75-80 after females.
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Rather have that than any of these shitty gimmick PPV's anyway.
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I meant in general, though.
The last 5 King of the Ring winners were Kurt Angle, Edge, Brock Lesnar, Booker T, and William Regal.
They all led to main event pushes, including Regal's, but he failed a drug test.

What are you people talking about?
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WWE has like 85 wrestlers on the roster, not including announcers and non-wrestlers. Maybe 75-80 after females.
Well if there WERE to be a 64 person tournament, I think King of the Ring would be better than a World title tournament unless all 64 people seemed like they deserved a shot at the title.
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In general, though. Like Bret, Owen, Stone Cold, Triple H
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totally forgot Shamrock won
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I only think that to go through 64 guys JUST for the KOTR is a bit much without something else on the line. The same can be said about the Rumble in terms of jobbers not deserving to main event Mania.

Though thinking about it, it would give someone a huge rub for winning that many rounds and give matches actual meaning, so I guess it wouldn't be all bad.
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The only "iffy" Kings of the Ring that I can remember are Mabel and Billy Gunn. Ken Shamrock should have maybe done more, but it didn't feel weird when he won it.
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I only think that to go through 64 guys JUST for the KOTR is a bit much without something else on the line. The same can be said about the Rumble in terms of jobbers not deserving to main event Mania.

Though thinking about it, it would give someone a huge rub for winning that many rounds and give matches actual meaning, so I guess it wouldn't be all bad.
There are Royal Rumble qualifying matches these days though, so the LOWEST jobbers don't even really get into the match anymore (which I am a fan of). But even with what you're saying, they start to get spread a little thin with just 30 people. I couldn't imagine who'd be jobbing in the first round of a 64 person tourney. Probably Justin Roberts or somebody.
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The first round would take a month by itself with 32 matches. It's not really feasible time-wise, either, when you consider how much storyline advancement they need to make with non-KOTR feuds.

Unless they made it this year-long build, which could be pretty epic.
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There are Royal Rumble qualifying matches these days though, so the LOWEST jobbers don't even really get into the match anymore (which I am a fan of). But even with what you're saying, they start to get spread a little thin with just 30 people. I couldn't imagine who'd be jobbing in the first round of a 64 person tourney. Probably Justin Roberts or somebody.
True, but they DO have at least 64 on the main roster (not including females, announcers, etc), and they could include some FCW guys as a form of introducing them to WWE.
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Yea, Shamrock winning it didn't pan out but at the time they were making an effort to push him.
Hindsight is easy to say he shouldn't have won it, but at the time they definitely felt he could have used it. The Rock could have won it, but he clearly didn't need it as much.

As for Billy Gunn, he didn't pan out either, but again they were definitely making an effort to push him.
He went on to have a Summerslam program with The Rock after that. Enough said.
In hindsight, I still am not sure there was a better candidate than him that year.
It was a transitional period, and the Angle/Jericho wave hadn't come in yet.
The only other plausible choices that year were probably X-Pac and Road Dogg, tbh.

The "flukes" are definitely exceptions to the general rule that KOTR winners are usually main event bound. But even then, they definitely make an effort rather than just intentionally throwing it away.
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Even Mabel was put into Summerslam's main event, but I'm still petitioning to have that PPV stricken from the record books.
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Sorry, that can't happen because Michaels/Razor II was on that PPV.
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The last 5 King of the Ring winners were Kurt Angle, Edge, Brock Lesnar, Booker T, and William Regal.
They all led to main event pushes, including Regal's, but he failed a drug test.

What are you people talking about?
I wasn't talking about PEOPLE specifically or referring to anyone in particular. I was saying that if it came back after being away for so long, it would need to actually mean a real push and not just some "label" to give a guy that they give up on in 2 weeks later.
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Sorry, that can't happen because Michaels/Razor II was on that PPV.
*THROWS OUT BATH WATER*

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I honestly don't think there's ever been any evidence to support them doing that though
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I think it's a "WWE doesn't do anything right anymore so they won't do this right" type of thing.
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What I liked about Booker T's win was that he continued to incorporate the 'king' gimmick long after the tournament was over. Not everybody did that. Owen Hart did to an extent. King Mabel did, but it sucked. Booker T made it work pretty well, I thought.

Does William Regal's titantron still say "2008 King of the Ring"?
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Yes, lol.
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I wish more people had past accomplishments in their titantrons. Triple H's could say "FORMER EUROPEAN CHAMPION" or something.
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I honestly don't think there's ever been any evidence to support them doing that though
In the past, yeah. But nowadays the E frequently pushes guys and then falls back....then pushes another guy and then falls back on him...

If they were to bring it back, and have, lets say, Kofi win it, I'd want them to go full out with the push, and not just stop the push the minute he misses a spot with Orton again, ya know?

The allure of it being KotR would mean so much more, and much more exciting if as a fan you KNEW it would create a new star, or thrust a guy towards the main event, similar to how the Royal Rumble USED to be.
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I wish more people had past accomplishments in their titantrons. Triple H's could say "FORMER EUROPEAN CHAMPION" or something.
Hornswoggle's should say "Longest-reigning Cruiserweight Champion".

I'm sure he has the record by now.
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