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Old 01-18-2011, 10:16 AM   #1
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Is Alberto Del Rio too big for a midcard title?
I know he's only been around for a few months and he hasn't won a single title in WWE yet, but the way he's been pushed, he seems much larger than an Intercontinental or a United States champion. It doesn't feel forced, either. He just seems like he's supposed to be there, almost like it's his...destiny...

Do you think Del Rio would benefit from a midcard title run, or should his first title be a major one?

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Old 01-18-2011, 10:21 AM   #2
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I think Del Rio would benefit from having a medium title because it will make him more credible when he gets the world title. Will he be credible if he gets the world title tomorrow? Yes but there will be some ppl who will say, "Yo, why is he already world champ?/He is being overpushed wtf!". Now I aint one of them but u know what I mean.

Also it would benefit WWE in a big way because the title will have more prestige and after Del Rio has a good run with it he will make his world title win more memorable / interesting, so I think Del Rio COULD win the world title first but I think it would be better if he won IC/US first and had a good long run sort of like JBL did before he became world.
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:24 AM   #3
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Could the same be said for John Morrison?
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:26 AM   #4
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Could the same be said for John Morrison?
John Morrisson is not ready for any world title in my book. He has awful mic skills and his character is boring and isnt fit for a world title run. He just isnt interesting. Hes just there and he needs to first develop more before he gets any big title. I mean dont get me wrong he is good in the ring but once he picks up that mic, its ALL done for him. IMO.
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John Morrisson is not ready for any world title in my book. He has awful mic skills and his character is boring and isnt fit for a world title run. He just isnt interesting. Hes just there and he needs to first develop more before he gets any big title. I mean dont get me wrong he is good in the ring but once he picks up that mic, its ALL done for him. IMO.
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Morrison has already won 19 undercard titles.
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Morrison has already won 19 undercard titles.
How the hell do you count 19?????

ECW Title - 1 time
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:03 PM   #9
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How the hell do you count 19?????

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I pulled that number directly from my ass. Just saying that he's won a lot of titles already.
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:40 AM   #10
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I think Alberto Del Rio and Ricardo Rodriguez should win the tag straps, now that I think about it.
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:51 AM   #11
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I'm not saying Morrison is ready for a world title, but would a midcard title be a step back?
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Personally I don't think he is sure he may have beat Rey Mysterio in his debut match but since then hasn't done much to surpass that accolade which that said though RR could be the turning point I suppose. Now that the match has been extended to 40 that would be a feather in the cap to make it all come to fruition but if a heel is to take it i'd rather it be someone more established like CM Punk it this point. Heck Carlito won the US Championship in his debut match against John Cena of all people and look how quickly his carreer plateaued as a midcarder and then went to curtain jerking near the end. Then you had Umaga who starting out squashing guys to beating several soon to be HOF and he pretty much suffered the same fate once they wanted to push a new face main event in Jeff Hardy. For me he is a lock to be an IC Champion but I don't think he's quite there yet he's still too green imho to headline a credible WM main event just yet so i'd have to say no and that is my final answer.
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I dunno. I think a midcard title might be good for Morrison just to keep pace, so to speak. It would remind people that he is SORTA somebody.
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They should build him like a major threat with a medium title. When say Trips had the IC belt he was still a very real threat to the WWF title. If they can run him like that then it can work. Otherwise he risks being lost in midcard hell.
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They should build him like a major threat with a medium title. When say Trips had the IC belt he was still a very real threat to the WWF title. If they can run him like that then it can work. Otherwise he risks being lost in midcard hell.
Like when the Ultimate Warrior was IC champ and it led to a match with Hogan for the WWF title? I like where your head's at. Have Del Rio just have a phenomonal run to where the only next logical thing for him to do is get a crack at the big one. Possibly against Cena?
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Like when the Ultimate Warrior was IC champ and it led to a match with Hogan for the WWF title? I like where your head's at. Have Del Rio just have a phenomonal run to where the only next logical thing for him to do is get a crack at the big one. Possibly against Cena?
Yeah exactly something like that. The problem is we've come to the point where we view the IC belt as make or break for a superstar. They either get to it and go far, or they get the belt and never go anywhere.

to win that belt should almost guarantee that you are on for bigger and better things, IE, a World title shot....

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Very very few WWE superstars have won the World Title or WWE Title without first winning the IC or US Title. It's just the pecking order of things. I would love to see Del Rio be the first guy in a long long time to take the IC Title and then win the World Title while still holding the IC Title belt. Can't remember last time this happened.
There may be few names that have done the World belt before a lesser title... BUT

Sheamus, Undertaker, Batista....

those are three very, very legitimate names that have never won the IC belt.
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to win that belt should almost guarantee that you are on for bigger and better things, IE, a World title shot....
This is called Money in the Bank these days.

...so should Del Rio win Money in the Bank?
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There may be few names that have done the World belt before a lesser title... BUT

Sheamus, Undertaker, Batista....

those are three very, very legitimate names that have never won the IC belt.
Don't forget Brock Lesnar is in that mix.
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Very very few WWE superstars have won the World Title or WWE Title without first winning the IC or US Title. It's just the pecking order of things. I would love to see Del Rio be the first guy in a long long time to take the IC Title and then win the World Title while still holding the IC Title belt. Can't remember last time this happened.
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No, I actually would prefer if Del Rio went after a midcard title first. It would solidify his standing in the company more. I don't think he should be going anywhere near the World Title yet. it probably will be him vs. Edge at Mania which is a fresh match so in that regard I can't complain, but I would rather him go after the IC title. Him and Kofi would have good matches.
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No, I actually would prefer if Del Rio went after a midcard title first. It would solidify his standing in the company more. I don't think he should be going anywhere near the World Title yet. it probably will be him vs. Edge at Mania which is a fresh match so in that regard I can't complain, but I would rather him go after the IC title. Him and Kofi would have good matches.
Why couldn't they have good matches for the World title, though?
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Why couldn't they have good matches for the World title, though?
Kofi is the Intercontinental Champion. I was pointing out that Del Rio going for the IC belt is a better decision than him getting thrust into the title picture. I said that him and Kofi would have good matches is because Kofi is the current IC champ. If they were for the title, I would hope Kofi is World Champion.
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Ugh fuck him going after the IC title. LOL "green" god n00bs are stupid.
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It would be wise to give Rio's the IC strap and take it off of Kofi's hands.....I always thought the united states title is a joke that has been running a tad too long.

Actually drop the United States tag on it and change it to the Television championship. I would totally buy Alberto Del Rio WWE Television Champ....this will allow him to be able to jump back and forth from Raw to Smackdown, it will bring the brands together as well as keep them separate.

I mean in the Golden Age of ECW.....RVD became who he is because he was a television champ for almost 2 years I believe.....who cared if Taz was World Champ.....RVD WAS GOLD TV!!!!.

Morrison is like that natural jock that can't read a playbook. I mean he totally sucks because of this......I mean...we went from the Shaman of Sexy to the Prince of Parkour? Morrison....go to ROH, they work with character quagmires.

I like Del Rio though....he has a very convincing character...and very good skill set. He would be like a Hispanic JBL.
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However, that is why PG is killing the WWE in the long run....you have all these characters that are not allowed to have an edge....or if they do....its very predictable.

Ziggler, Del Rio, The Miz, Ryder, CM Punk, would have faired better in Attitude Era.

It is really a challenge now.

I remember when Stone Cold and Triple H beat the shit out of the Hardy's and Lita. Now........Cena Kisses Vickie!!!!
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Del Rio is boring as hell.

That is all.
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Del Rio is boring as hell.

That is all.
Who are your favorites right now?
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:40 PM   #30
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Who are your favorites right now?
I get the feeling that won't matter.
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:50 PM   #31
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I get the feeling that won't matter.
I was just curious. No need to be a bitch about it.
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:55 PM   #32
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lol for you to state as a fact that he is boring is ridiculous though. I mean I understand if you find him boring, but the guy is over as hell, and oozes awesomeness. You need to at least acknowledge the fact that he is hella talented, doesn't mean you have to like him.

Oh, weird: Dale is insulting my opinion. That's so rare and totally unexpected.

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I was just curious. No need to be a bitch about it.

I wasn't bitching.
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:40 PM   #33
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Del Rio is boring as hell.

That is all.
He is no "The Goon"
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:42 PM   #34
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He is no "The Goon"

Ugh. Don't get me started.
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Old 01-18-2011, 12:26 PM   #35
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Give him the strap and let him run with it at . Swagger was champ for god sakes.
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Old 01-18-2011, 12:33 PM   #36
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Give him the strap and let him run with it at . Swagger was champ for god sakes.
And he was an amazing champion. Hold your tongue!
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:58 PM   #37
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And he was an amazing champion. Hold your tongue!
jack Swagger was a failed experiment of a champion...but his wife made a hot porno.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:04 PM   #38
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I didn't know that defeating the likes of Chris Jericho, Edge, Kofi Kingston, Randy Orton and Big Show could be considered as a "Failed experiment of a Champion".
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Old 01-18-2011, 12:34 PM   #39
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No midcard for Alberto.... he is too strong.... Morrison is not ready for the big time.....
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:37 PM   #40
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He doesn't need an IC run so why give him one? He's a great performer and is booked strongly. That's all you need.

I disagree with all the Morrison hate in here. He just needs a couple of tweaks and he'll be fine. He needs to escape the whole retro rocker thing.
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