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My Space Jam Bitch!
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Wait a minute: John Cena KILLS The Rock and it gets ignored?
@ 6:00 if you do not want to wait.
Seriously, this deserves it's own thread, not just a mention, not a Cena mark, but so far The Rock vs John Cena, and Cena is up one after this reply, classic and great come back. The Rock replies Feb 28th John Cena replies March 7th ![]() Last edited by YoungFlyFlashy; 03-13-2011 at 04:29 AM. |
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My Space Jam Bitch!
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Wrestlemania host, that's your role, you tell these people that you love them, I here every week to show it...
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The black Corey Graves
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Cenas promo was dedicated strictly to the Rock.
Rocks promo was a return where he touched on a lot of points including John Cena. IMO, its not the same thing. I'll form an opinion when Rock retorts. |
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My Space Jam Bitch!
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Whatever man, Cena still might be the only man in history to actually one-up The Rock on the mic, give credit where credit is due.
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The black Corey Graves
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OK in all honesty I'm still giving this one to The Rock for a few reasons, first of Its one thing to "diss" someone in a rhyme scheme its quite another to lay into someone by just talking which is what Rock did it takes a certain quick wit to have clever put downs in casual speaking format. Not saying rapping is easy, putdowns (or at least Cenas) arent as jarring as they would be if he was simply addressing the crowd. Second ALL of Cenas material is predictable and lacks any real creativity example a typical Cena putdown goes like this (in deep wigger voice) blah blah blah homosexual joke blah blah blah rhyme referencing my balls/and or anus blah blah blah something that rhymes with you cant see me. the only point that actually stung was the "seven yrs we couldn't see u"part the rest was Cena by the numbers IMO. Oh yea as far as films go Rock could always point out that Cenas Films make sure that straight to dvd bin is at least half full. |
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First of all, using a rhyme scheme is much harder. Maybe you're slow witted, but throwing out one liners and otherwise laying into someone just by talking is painfully simple. Jesus, go to a junior high school, everyone there excels at it. Second, you're accusing Cena of using formulaic promos? Rock is probably one of the worst in those regards. He had 14 catch phrases, and his promos were the most formulaic wrestling promos I can ever remember watching in roughly the past 20 years, week after week. The Rock, simply put, is boring. And yes, he always was. There was virtually no diversity when he spoke. His charismatic delivery is the only thing that saved him. Now, I understand full well the promos are written and approved, but the problem is this -- you're criticizing one man for his promos being A - B - C when the man you're defending is one of the worst formula-based promo men there is. You can't honestly tell me Rock's promos weren't painfully predictable before he left 7 years ago. |
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I agree. Cena's was pretty brutal but The Rock could counter with something as equally brutal. Kind of hoping The Rock doesn't say anything and instead saves it for Mania, at which time he will lay the smackdown on Cena. Actually I don't want to see them wrestle or even 'get into it' at Mania or elsewhere because there is no way they would let the Rock go over on Cena. |
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My Space Jam Bitch!
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I was talking truth, you left us high and dry to play a fairy with a tooth? And you walk in this ring and tell these people that I'm lame man, he wore lipstick in get shory and rocked a skirt for the game plan. This fruity pebble that your dealing with, I'm not your average jabroni, I'm like a big purple pinwheel rock, go ahead and blow me.
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Wrestling Marks Rejoice!
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Well, it's a good thing I didn't start a thread about this, but I did just post in the RAW thread, so still I must say: "DAMMIT!"
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Wrestling Marks Rejoice!
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Jokes aside, I really am curious as to what other people think about this... aside from the obligatory "IT DOESN'T MATTER..." someone's bound to throw in. |
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My Space Jam Bitch!
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And your electrifying YES! But hang with me that's just obscured, see now you gotta tell your family you just got schooled by Barney's turd. Oh no no, wait wait, thats your material, you can have your joke back, just don't go race to witch mountain rock, cause your mountain is broke back.
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Resident drug enabler
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That was pretty incredible. Cena one-upped The Rock.
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Wrestling Marks Rejoice!
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The bad thing is half of that was a bastardized Eminem rap olympics rhyme from like '97/'98-ish, yet still managed to be clever.
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My Space Jam Bitch!
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Oh no no wait wait, the rocks new movie, well its nothing like walking tall, he spends the movie in the bowling alley polishing my balls. The peoples champ, he's never with the people, rock your words are see thru, you imitate me every time you leave, for seven years we couldn't see you.
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L.G. Fuad
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The promo screamed the final rap battle of 8 Mile.. idk why.
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Skibbidy Lock Jaw
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Dunno. Seems like anybody could have "one-upped" The Rock. Not saying Cena didn't do a good job...
But you got plenty of material to work with, what with the terrible movies he has made and his abandonment of WWE for 7 years to make them. |
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It was alright, but it was still the same gay and poop jokes in a "you sold out" wrapper. I'm just surprised he didn't throw a package of peanuts at Cole and make a vintage DEEZ NUTZ joke.
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Wrestling Marks Rejoice!
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Wrestling Marks Rejoice!
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BAY BAY
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I loved it. If it wasn't The Rocks return last week and it was just a promo on Cena to build to Wrestlemania, I think I would have enjoyed Cena's a lot more. |
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I thought it was pretty awesome tbh, but I def. don't think he "one-upped" The Rock. IF anything, they're even now.
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It was good, but I hope he can show that he can burn somebody up like that without doing a "rap". If, and God willing, they do a back-and-forth on it. Cena will get his ass eaten alive on RAW if he can't do more than a long winded rap with props.
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Fuck you people. The promo was good, it's what everyone has been screaming for him to do for about 4 years now. And now it's too cool to enjoy it because The Rock came back and cut an old school promo.. Yep, wouldn't be TPWW if it was any other way.
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It was good, but it isn't like he tore the fucking house down. He didn't destroy The Rock.
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Former TPWW Royalty
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I wouldn't think of it as Cena "killing" The Rock but Cena's response to the trash talking the Rock did to him last week.
It was very good compared to the usual Cena promo and is similar to how Batista helped Cena produce some of his best promos since moving to Raw years ago. What Cena said was true but at the same time Cena's movies haven't been as strong as The Rock for him to even consider leaving as an option. The Rock had the acting option because it was producing equal or more to what he was making in the WWE and didn't need a while to adjust financially. |
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Quark is Less Impressed.
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It was a great promo, and it was everything that made me fall in love with John Cena in 2003-2004 but I disagree with everything John Cena said content wise. He said it well, but he's still a piece of shit for saying it. As a lifetime fan of the WWF I have seen what has happened to the people who didn't know when it was time to retire, move on and try something different. In short this industry is TOXIC and John Cena is on the wrong side of the fence on this issue. Also he doesn't have the stink of WWE failure from after the end of the Attitude era, so the WWE will now benefit from The Rock's good name reputation in the world of entertainment. He left and it was the perfect opportunity for him to leave and John Cena can't be serious in trash talking him to do the best thing for the Rock's and his family's future. John Cena missed the birth of his nephew, is that something we want to praise? No, he's a scumbag for missing it and he's a scumbag for not taking his "fired" time off to spend time with his wife and his brother's newly created family.
The Rock had a golden opportunity to reach for the brass ring in Hollywood and he had the balls to go for it. The Rock could have been just another failed actor like Hollywood Hulk Hogan or somebody who is known for only one really good movie like Rowdy Roddy Piper. I disagree that the Rock "sold out" his fans and I just think Cena said that years old just to get The Rock into another match. The Rock was never able to fight Shawn Michaels, but he didn't insult Shawn Michaels in public to try to draw him out. He was probably upset that The Rock brought in all of the ratings for all of those years and Cena hasn't. Cena has seen the decline of the empire that the Rock, NOT Cena help built. If anything Cena has been one of the reasons for the decline. Also let me point out that the Rock was the most SELFLESS WWE Champion that I can remember. When The Rock was the champion for the first time he could have ran with the title all the way to WrestleMania for his fight with Stone Cold: he didn't. The Rock and Mankind had a great rivarly that gave Mankind somebody who would probably never win the title under other circumstances two championship reigns and Royal Rumble title match that will go down as one of the greatest in the long history of the Rumble. When Brock Lesnar was getting the then quickest push in WWE history who gave up another chance of a long run as champion to make him look like a million bucks in Summerslam? That's right; The Rock. It is things like that make the Rock a 7-time champion but only having 297 days as the champion. The Rock knew that he was only one person and that by pushing everybody as far as they could they all would triuphum. John Cena is all about "me myself and I." Fuck you John Cena. |
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Love or hate John Cena's character (you know, as wrestling is a scripted television program), he is probably one of the best company men they've ever had in an elevated position. I'd be willing to bet that Cena would put anyone over if asked. |
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Cena didn't kill Rock, but it was an awesome performance. How could the promo be Cena by the numbers when he hasn't said that stuff for 6 years?
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Please. Cena is terrible.
Obviously he would put anyone over, Hasney. He's been booked like Hulk Hogan for six years and knows the company would have nothing to gain by jobbing him out, and even if they did who cares? He's the focal point of their film studios. He's sleeping in tubs full of money. Also, that segment was certainly scripted, but I have a hard time believing he was provoked by creative to give those retarded opinions on The Rock during his MTV interview a couple of years ago. He might be being scripted to run with it now that Rocky is back in the fold, but he owns those statements and I can't recall him ever "taking them back." Love or hate Cena's character, this guy is an overpaid meathead who loves the smell of his own stink, and you can't help but think that when he was blabbering about how "he would never leave the WWE or it's fans LIKE THE ROCK DID!," he probably had some feeling of self-righteousness for saying it. Sure, the way SlickyTrickDamon is taking that segment personally is a bit silly, but there's an important point in there that we shouldn't miss: Fuck John Cena. |
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Y2KoTF
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Both guys gave the better promos of their careers in the past 2 weeks, both have been excellent, who cares who's winning in a promo war?
This has been great TV, WWE has done a fantastic job recently in making me want to watch the product and talk about it again. Good job! |
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This^^^ The Rock returning surprised me because I don't read dirt sheets anymore. So seeing he returned I watched. I enjoyed Rocks promo, I enjoyed Cenas and so I might buy wWestlemania for the first time in 4 years. Good job WWE Favre4eva, im 23 and I enjoy Cena... Just saying. |
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I guess the word I was really looking for was "atrocious".
Atrocious -exceptionally bad or displeasing; "atrocious taste"; "abominable workmanship"; "an awful voice"; "dreadful manners"; "a painful performance"; "terrible handwriting"; "an unspeakable odor came sweeping into the room" I'm sure all of those examples qualify here. Also, atrocious to the latter I guess, though I will tell you that I haven't met a person in my age group(i'm 25) that doesn't dislike John Cena. |
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