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Old 06-24-2011, 09:22 PM   #1
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Best & Worst #2: United States Champion [RESULTS POSTED]
Steve Austin enters the B&W Hall of Fame as 'Best WWF/E World Champion' just as Jeff Hardy and Bob Backlund enter the B&W Hall of Shame as the 'Worst' in that category.

Up for your deliberation this time is the United States Championship.

We'll consider it's existence in WCW and WWE as the same lineage/belt. So, in your estimation, using whatever criteria you choose to, who was the very Best and very Worst to hold the US Title?
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Old 06-24-2011, 09:29 PM   #2
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I really wanted to put DDP, but I can't recall anything significant from his runs.
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Best - Sting
Worst - David Flair

you really cant argue about David Flair being the worst..he sucked as a wrestler, he didn't win the belt (Ric "gave" him the belt) and I think he only successfully defended it once but he needed the Horsemen's help to do that.
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Best - Sting
Worst - David Flair

you really cant argue about David Flair being the worst..he sucked as a wrestler, he didn't win the belt (Ric "gave" him the belt) and I think he only successfully defended it once but he needed the Horsemen's help to do that.
Actually I would argue that to point out Jim Duggan was no better when he won the title in 40 seconds in a squash over Austin. Austin was a good mid card talent at the time and WCW just buried him with a guy who was already 10 years past his prime. David Flair was a joke as well but WCW dropped the ball burying Austin like that. Something like that sticks out in my opinion more than David Flair who no one really remembers being US champion more than Austin getting buried by Bischoff and WCW management. Just a food for thought here.
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Actually I would argue that to point out Jim Duggan was no better when he won the title in 40 seconds in a squash over Austin. Austin was a good mid card talent at the time and WCW just buried him with a guy who was already 10 years past his prime. David Flair was a joke as well but WCW dropped the ball burying Austin like that. Something like that sticks out in my opinion more than David Flair who no one really remembers being US champion more than Austin getting buried by Bischoff and WCW management. Just a food for thought here.
At least Duggan was an established wrestler and even if it was a sqaush he did win the belt. The only reason David Flair had it is because his father was Ric Flair and they didnt even have him win the belt in a match.
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At least Duggan was an established wrestler and even if it was a sqaush he did win the belt. The only reason David Flair had it is because his father was Ric Flair and they didnt even have him win the belt in a match.
Never said your point was invalid. Just retorted with a thought against it. Even pos repped you for it. Flair did suck but people are less likely to remember Jim than Duggan. But kudos to you David Flair is up there as top 5 for worst US champ ever.
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Best: Tie between Benoit and Kofi (the latter was defending it it fatal 4 ways, triple threat, and 6 way matches during his 1st run)
Worst: Rick Steiner (don't even remember that reign since it was near WCW's death and i'm sure it was pointless)
That was reign was good use of Rick Steiner actually, he held the title well over a year combined I bet.

Best - Lex Luger, he brought the title to heights it really never had been or got to again. To my memory he was also elevated via the title, they made the title important which made him important. In his prime he was the perfect US Champion.

Honorable mentions Austin, Raven, and Chris Benoit.

Worst - this is hard because there are so many forgettable holders, I'm gonna go with.... hmmm....

David Flair.... I can't remember anyone else worse.
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If WCW US title reigns are included:

Best: Diamond Dallas Page-absolutely loved this reign. All the defenses were great and one of the best parts of WCW at the time.
Worst: David Flair

If WWE reigns are only being considered
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There was a point where the US Title in WCW was what the Intercontinental Title was in the WWF, the belt they'd give guys who were on the rise, to see if they were World Champion material...
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It's an odd question because my least favourite reign was Raven's because he deserved better, Orlando Jordan was the worst Champion, but he lost it in an entertaining way.
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:22 AM   #35
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best: Sting or BIG POPPA PUMP
worst: Lashley
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Old 06-25-2011, 11:21 AM   #36
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Old 06-25-2011, 11:33 AM   #37
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Best: Benoit
Worst: Miz
I wasn't a fan of Miz's reign either. I was going to put that but then I remembered R-Truth's meaningless reign.
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Old 06-25-2011, 12:03 PM   #38
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Best: Rick Rude

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Old 06-25-2011, 05:33 PM   #39
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Best - Who betta than Kanyon?
Worst - Miz (barely even defended it, was just a prop)
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Old 06-25-2011, 09:58 PM   #40
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Best - The Miz.
Loved how much he developed and momentum he gained during his reign which ended up setting up his future WWE championship reign and main event status.

Worst - Raven's 1 day reign.
WCW almost completely mis-managed his entire time with the company and instead of using the victory over DDP as a launch point, he lost it the next day to Goldberg who was more focused on chasing the heavyweight title than being a US champion. He never went back competing in the division due to be occupied in feuds against his flock and other lower tier stuff during the last year in the company.
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