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Old 07-05-2004, 05:13 PM   #1
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A first time ever in the UK!
I assume this is the announcement that there will be RAW and Smackdown! in the UK. Am I correct?
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Old 07-05-2004, 05:16 PM   #2
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Old 07-05-2004, 05:19 PM   #3
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Old 07-05-2004, 05:39 PM   #4
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Didn't WCW do that a few months before they folded, when they were getting similar crowd attendances as the WWE are now?
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Old 07-05-2004, 05:43 PM   #5
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Yeah and WCW were selling out those shows too. Just a shame it took them that long to do it.
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Old 07-05-2004, 06:04 PM   #6
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Didn't WCW do that a few months before they folded, when they were getting similar crowd attendances as the WWE are now?
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Old 07-05-2004, 08:50 PM   #7
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I do find this timing rather odd though, they're doing bad business now so who do they come to look for for help?The UK! They know they're gonna sell tickets over here no matter what, which is why i think the Raw and Smackdown! over here will suck.Though it will be cool to see the shows on TV while being aired over here.
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Old 07-06-2004, 12:52 PM   #8
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It will be cool to watch a live RAW over here.
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Old 07-06-2004, 03:52 PM   #9
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I do find this timing rather odd though, they're doing bad business now so who do they come to look for for help?The UK! They know they're gonna sell tickets over here no matter what, which is why i think the Raw and Smackdown! over here will suck.Though it will be cool to see the shows on TV while being aired over here.
Do your research dude. The UK tours didn't sell out the last two times and they haven't been to London in ages because of fear of not selling out.

Why would Raw and Smackdown suck anymore now in England than they would in Toronto, Buffalo, Little Rock or Salt Lake City? They all go out to the same international audience.
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Old 07-06-2004, 04:41 PM   #10
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Plus the pound is alot stronger so 3000 UK fans means alot more than 3000 US fans. And the Smackdown and Raw shows will legit sell out so that's 2 days of 16000 fans

You do the math
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Old 07-06-2004, 05:00 PM   #11
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Old 07-07-2004, 02:20 PM   #12
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Plus the pound is alot stronger so 3000 UK fans means alot more than 3000 US fans. And the Smackdown and Raw shows will legit sell out so that's 2 days of 16000 fans

You do the math
Plus we pay for per seat than the US fans.
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Old 07-07-2004, 02:30 PM   #13
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I wanna go watch the RAW in Manchester but I probably won't.

It'll feel weird watching RAW live on a monday night for the first time ever though.
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Old 07-07-2004, 02:36 PM   #14
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Is it even the Raw taping that night?
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Old 07-08-2004, 12:58 PM   #15
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The RAW is at the Manchester Evening News arena for sure, I dunno where the Smackdown one is though.
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Old 07-08-2004, 02:36 PM   #16
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The RAW is at the Manchester Evening News arena for sure, I dunno where the Smackdown one is though.
The same place I believe.
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Old 07-08-2004, 06:50 PM   #17
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Well I'll be getting free tickets for either, if not both shows. Don't mean to brag about it
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Old 07-08-2004, 06:53 PM   #18
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I think they're doing both shows on consecutive nights at the M.E.N..
Raw on Monday, Smackdown on Tuesday.
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Old 07-10-2004, 01:52 PM   #19
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Do your research dude. The UK tours didn't sell out the last two times and they haven't been to London in ages because of fear of not selling out.

Why would Raw and Smackdown suck anymore now in England than they would in Toronto, Buffalo, Little Rock or Salt Lake City? They all go out to the same international audience.
Wrong actually. The last London event pretty much sold out, there was a mix up with Ticketmaster which meant a few tickets weren't allocated.

The last UK tour was completely sold out from what I read.
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Old 07-10-2004, 03:39 PM   #20
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They haven't been to London since May 2003 and they have had at least two tours since then and not come to London. I didn't say the last London show didn't sell out. I was there and it looked pretty sold out to me.

The last UK wasn't a complete sell out and the tour prior to that did a lot worse.
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Well from what ive seen, all the shows over in the uk have been practically sold out and it'll continue to be that way i think. Especially if they're doing more stuff like this in future, i for one would get the tickets to see either raw or smackdown if not both if it was near me.(in London)
I just reckon it would suck anyway, cos everytime ive seen a ppv over here it has sucked.And the titles never change hands, apart from one time when crash won the european title but lost it the next night on raw.
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Well from what ive seen, all the shows over in the uk have been practically sold out and it'll continue to be that way i think. Especially if they're doing more stuff like this in future, i for one would get the tickets to see either raw or smackdown if not both if it was near me.(in London)
I just reckon it would suck anyway, cos everytime ive seen a ppv over here it has sucked.And the titles never change hands, apart from one time when crash won the european title but lost it the next night on raw.
Yeah, but those 'pay per views' were only seen in the UK, so they wouldn't bother changing titles as the US fans would miss out. The only time we have had a legit PPV was summerslam and we saw the IC title change hands, so the main thing is weather the US will get to see it. With Raw and Smackdown the US will get to see it. However both brands have been protecting the titles recently to try to give them more meaning, so yeah I doubt we'll see any titles change hands, but we will see some storyline devolpment unlike the rebellion crap we normally get
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Old 07-10-2004, 06:08 PM   #23
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I've been at UK shows where the IC, Tag, European and Hardcore titles all changed hands. I see your point though but here's the deal, this TV taping is INTERNATIONAL. There is no way they will do UK PPV standard shows and put that on Raw and Smackdown. They will be basically what you see on TV every week but it's in Manchester.
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Old 07-10-2004, 08:43 PM   #24
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They haven't been to London since May 2003 and they have had at least two tours since then and not come to London. I didn't say the last London show didn't sell out. I was there and it looked pretty sold out to me.

The last UK wasn't a complete sell out and the tour prior to that did a lot worse.
Fair play, but yes the London show did look pretty sold out to me to.

I wonder why WWE have decided against using Earls Court.. a large arena unused since Insurrextion 2002. Maybe it could be used for the shows next May.
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Old 07-10-2004, 09:11 PM   #25
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Earls Court is a fucking mare to get 14,000 in at once though. Transport around the area is usually the shits too.
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Old 07-11-2004, 12:27 PM   #26
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Well it's a shame for me I live only 5 minutes away from it Used to be 1 minute buty I moved a bit down the road :O.

I think Earls COurt is also a bit bigger than 14,000 I think 17,000 ish.

Hopefully once The Millenium Dome is completed they will consider staging events there, should have a good atmosphere.
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