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Old 10-28-2004, 06:00 PM   #1
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MTV is annoying.
Not Because They don't play Music, Not because they are clearly Democratic, But because they feel the need to keep pressing young people to vote. First it was the ads, Which was fine with me. Then they made the 2004 MTV music awards around voting. ow they inturupt what your watching (Right in the middle of the show) To listen about how Some black persons parents struggled to get the right to vote. Ok I'm white I don't care but thats besides the point. When they do there little voting add they keep rolling the show so you miss something. Thats just my thoughts on it though.



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Old 10-28-2004, 06:05 PM   #2
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Old 10-28-2004, 06:24 PM   #3
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It did a little annoying, but they are the best weapon as far getting it in the heads of young people. After the election you won't have to worry about the ads and you can enjoy 24 hours of reality TV!
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Old 10-28-2004, 06:42 PM   #4
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I'm glad they are trying to use their power of getting into the minds of young people by getting them to do something that could actually change the world. Aside from smacking a ho and whining about your parents.
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Old 10-28-2004, 06:48 PM   #5
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I don't get MTV in Canada, so I can't really comment tooooo much, but.... it's good that they're getting people to vote and all. Nothing wrong with telling people to vote. However, if they're all democratic or whatever like you say, I would hope that they're not encouraging people to simply vote for Kerry or whatever. Naturally, I'd vote for Kerry myself, but it wouldn't be really that good if they were telling people WHO to vote for. If they're just telling them to vote, that's fine
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Old 10-28-2004, 06:52 PM   #6
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I don't get MTV in Canada, so I can't really comment tooooo much, but.... it's good that they're getting people to vote and all. Nothing wrong with telling people to vote. However, if they're all democratic or whatever like you say, I would hope that they're not encouraging people to simply vote for Kerry or whatever. Naturally, I'd vote for Kerry myself, but it wouldn't be really that good if they were telling people WHO to vote for. If they're just telling them to vote, that's fine
Nah, they're just saying, "VOTE OR DIE" and talking about how the hip hop community is much larger than those special interest groups and should let their presences be felt.

Savior is taking it as Democrat because black people tend to vote Democrat.
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Old 10-28-2004, 06:55 PM   #7
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One of their commercials:

"Jails are being over loaded with you people due to the drug war. Bush says he wants to continue the war. Kerry however states he'll cut spending on the drug war"
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Old 10-28-2004, 06:57 PM   #8
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Nah, they're just saying, "VOTE OR DIE" and talking about how the hip hop community is much larger than those special interest groups and should let their presences be felt.



Savior is taking it as Democrat because black people tend to vote Democrat.
No I'm saying over killing it is annoying. When they do there little Bush vs Kerry segments the always disagree wish Bushes points and agree with Kerrys
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Old 10-28-2004, 06:59 PM   #9
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One of their commercials:

"Jails are being over loaded with you people due to the drug war. Bush says he wants to continue the war. Kerry however states he'll cut spending on the drug war"
I'm sure you're taking it out of context like they say something Bush will do, then something Kerry will do, to inform the voters. But, I'd have to see the commercial to know the whole story. From what I've seen, MTV has been unbiased, just encouraging others to vote.
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Old 10-28-2004, 07:01 PM   #10
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No I'm saying over killing it is annoying. When they do there little Bush vs Kerry segments the always disagree wish Bushes points and agree with Kerrys
Which point do you want to argue, that they are overkilling it or that it is biased towards Kerry? Overkill, I can agree with, but they want people to vote. We don't want another 2000 election. I find it hard to believe that they will be biased towards Kerry, when I've heard them say, "I don't care who you vote for, as long as you vote" on several occasions.

But, it is MTV..
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Old 10-28-2004, 07:07 PM   #11
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Which point do you want to argue, that they are overkilling it or that it is biased towards Kerry? Overkill, I can agree with, but they want people to vote. We don't want another 2000 election. I find it hard to believe that they will be biased towards Kerry, when I've heard them say, "I don't care who you vote for, as long as you vote" on several occasions.



But, it is MTV..
Face it man some Channel are biased Like Fox News supports the Republican party where (From what I heard) CBS suports democratic. I think there Bush vs Kerry is on every 10 to the hour so it should be on in a few minutes so see for yourself.
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Old 10-28-2004, 07:11 PM   #12
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Old 10-29-2004, 05:23 PM   #13
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One of their commercials:

"Jails are being over loaded with you people due to the drug war. Bush says he wants to continue the war. Kerry however states he'll cut spending on the drug war"

"you people"

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Old 10-29-2004, 06:49 PM   #14
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I totally agree with Savior here. MTV is a bunch of assbags. They're way biased and they stuff the shit down our throats constantly. Is the lack of acceptance of gays so terrible in this society that every reality show has to have two gay guys in it and inbetween the reality shows we have to have a couple made for tv movies about a gay kid getting beat up by the ignorant homophobes who are so ashamed of their inability to come out of the closet that they have to react violently to those who have?

And I've seen the biased comercials too. It's like they say it like: "War kills people....you're a person....Bush started a war that killed people and you're a person. Kerry hasn't killed anyone willingly." or "Some raped people have babies who are the seed of pure evil. George Bush wants you to preserve the seed of pure evil in your womb and give birth to it so it can cause suffering to the world like Osama Bin Laden, who is also evil. Kerry thinks that you should be allowed to destroy the seed of pure evil that is parasitically destroying you from the inside." or "Underage drinking and doing illegal drugs sure are fun. Bush thinks that you shouldn't to this and so you aren't worthy of having any fun. He wants you to be miserable. Kerry says that every young voter should have fun and live a joyful life."

Ok, so they're not that bad...but they're still pretty bad.
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Old 10-29-2004, 08:18 PM   #15
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One of their commercials:

"Jails are being over loaded with you people due to the drug war. Bush says he wants to continue the war. Kerry however states he'll cut spending on the drug war"
In all fairness, those were the words of whatever celeb they got to do the spot, not MTV's..

Sorry you have to miss 30 seconds of trash tv every hour..

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Old 10-29-2004, 09:26 PM   #16
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I have hated mtv for a long time. They say vote for something but that something has to be kerry. I hate them so much. They are very biased and I think that mtv are doosh bags that should just play music instead of all there shitty programs.
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They say vote for something but that something has to be kerry.
Examples??
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Old 10-29-2004, 09:41 PM   #18
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That whole the only reason we have are president comerical is cause we losted flordia by a number I forgot how many Let not let this happen again. Applying They want you to vote for Kerry. I think that sends the wrong message. I think it is suppose to make ppl feel there vote counts but they make it sound like you have to vote kerry. And I hate all the tv programs on there. They never play any music. Trl does not even show videos any more. Well they do but like 1/3 of if.
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I have to agree with Savior and Tusconspeed here. THe MTV commercials are pretty biased, although I think the commercials are geared toward reaching a subset that most politicians bypass. No, not young people. Stoners.

Since there's been people asking for examples, I somewhat recall a commercial criticizing all of the anti-drug laws passed under the Bush administration. The clear implication was that if we had four more years of Bush, then it would make life harder to be a stoner.

While I somewhat applaud the sentiment for reaching out to what can be argued as a minority (stoners), the commercial doesn't factor in the fact that Democrats also voted for those anti-drug laws, and frankly things would probably not change under a Kerry administration.
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That whole the only reason we have are president comerical is cause we losted flordia by a number I forgot how many Let not let this happen again. Applying They want you to vote for Kerry. I think that sends the wrong message. I think it is suppose to make ppl feel there vote counts but they make it sound like you have to vote kerry. And I hate all the tv programs on there. They never play any music. Trl does not even show videos any more. Well they do but like 1/3 of if.
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In all fairness, those were the words of whatever celeb they got to do the spot, not MTV's..

Sorry you have to miss 30 seconds of trash tv every hour..

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Actually MTV or MTV2 had a whole special show on the issue. I think it was Sway (For those that don't know he works for MTV) who hosted the show and also said that comment. But, it is true that Kerry plans on cutting the cost of funding into the war on drugs due to the reasons previously stated.

He didn't say "you people" though if that's what you were refferring to...
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Actually MTV or MTV2 had a whole special show on the issue. I think it was Sway (For those that don't know he works for MTV) who hosted the show and also said that comment. But, it is tru that Kerry plans on cutting the cost of funding into the war on drugs due to the reasons previously stated.
I pretty sure they didn't tell him to say that.. He was given airtime to get young people to vote/ inform them..

He said his opinion..

Is there any more "proof"??
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"you people"

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I pretty sure they didn't tell him to say that.. He was given airtime to get young people to vote/ inform them..

He said his opinion..

Is there any more "proof"??
I think you have me misunderstood. I'm not saying MTV is telling you to vote for Kerry, I'm telling you it's true that Kerry does plan on cutting the amount of tax payers money which goes into the war on drugs.

On a side note, if you change over to BET, they are completly biased toward the Democratic party. They onlly air Democratic adds and have that commercial with breakbushoff.com advertised....
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On a related topic, did anyone see last week's South Park where Stan asks Sean Puffy Combs what the hell he means with his slogan: "Vote or Die"?

He echoed my sentiments exactly.
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Originally Posted by Savior
One of their commercials:

"Jails are being over loaded with you people due to the drug war. Bush says he wants to continue the war. Kerry however states he'll cut spending on the drug war"


That is true, Kerry himself has come out and admitted that people who are jailed for mimimal amounts of drugs are getting more time than a murder/raper, because of the mandatory minimal law. He says too much of tax payers money is going into the jailing system for stupid stuff, hope theres your proof...
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Old 11-01-2004, 11:46 PM   #28
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I'm pretty sure MTV's base audience isn't stoners, its teenage girls.

Also, garageband geek should be banned for not knowing how to write a sentence.
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:33 AM   #29
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Honestly, it doesn't matter if you are a Democrat or a Republican. If you willingly do not vote, you are pissing on everything that your parents, and their parents' parents, and so on, fought for you to have.
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Old 11-02-2004, 12:10 PM   #30
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Getting young people to vote is a BAD IDEA. They are not educated enough about the candidates to have a valid opinion of their own for the most part. In most cases, it's basically "Daddy votes democrat, so I will too." For every intelligent man whose vote should mean the most, there's an ignorant teenager who picked randomly and cancelled out that man's vote.
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:57 PM   #31
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That's exactly why these programs are airing these shows and sometimes bits and pieces of the debate. It's impossible to inform a first time voter of every little thing their first time, but I guess theres a first for everything...
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I agree with Savior and everyone, it is clear to see MTV is biased.

Example: War breaks out in Iraq, first thing MTV does is show clips of the Audioslave guitarist with a "how much blood for oil" sign. Then they go to celebrities voicing their opinions about how Bush is wrong. Next they show a clip of them talking to an Iraqi teenager, in his home.
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