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Old 09-23-2005, 09:30 PM   #1
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JBL is great.
I see a feud coming with JBL against MNM. I also possibly see him turning face. I'd love it. Discuss.
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Old 09-23-2005, 09:33 PM   #2
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jbl is a heel. he would suck ASS as a face! like when the wwe royally fucked up Big Papa Pumps heat in wwe by bringing him in as a face when naturally he is not.
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Old 09-23-2005, 09:35 PM   #3
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His mannerisms and facial expressions riding that stallion to the ring were classic..... chavo classic . But other than that and his promos, the man has no place on my television.

Turning him face would pretty much require an overhaul of his character. The only sufficient method of turning the character face in my opinion would be the comedic approach (a la 2000 Kurt Angle). No-one is going to cheer for a egotistical, greed-driven businessman unless he's making an ass of himself.
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Old 09-23-2005, 09:45 PM   #4
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Which..he does.
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Old 09-23-2005, 10:55 PM   #5
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Unless JBL turns back to Bradshaw I don't care if he's face or heel
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Old 09-23-2005, 10:59 PM   #6
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Maybe he will..one day. And Farooq will get rehired. APA again! Complete with a new set of teams to job to.
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Old 09-23-2005, 11:12 PM   #7
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Maybe he will..one day. And Farooq will get rehired. APA again! Complete with a new set of teams to job to.
that would be so cool but I think Farooq's dead lol
(not but seriously where the hell is he )
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Old 09-23-2005, 11:20 PM   #8
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Old 09-23-2005, 11:21 PM   #9
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Farooq was released, and I heard that JBL missed him.
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Old 09-23-2005, 11:29 PM   #10
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:18 AM   #11
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That promo on SD was awesome. Coming out on the horse was pretty funny.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:29 AM   #12
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Yeah, this SD was much better than they're recently been.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:40 AM   #13
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He's just one of those guys who could never be a face.
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:07 AM   #14
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:56 AM   #15
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BEST JBL line of the night...

With Jillian standing next to him

" We don't hide our faces behind masks. I don't need to hide my face..."

Such a subtle little comment.. He is the shit.
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:57 AM   #16
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And if done right, JBL could be HUGE as a face. He just needs the right person to go against... Him Vs Hassan, or Vs HHH could (have) be done real well.
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Old 09-24-2005, 05:12 AM   #17
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JBL as a face? Some of you see it, I don't

The only possible way I could see it, was if he had a situation similar to The Rock circa 1999. When you were supposed to boo him, but he was so over that he got cheered. I don't see JBL as that entertaining or anywhere remotely close that would make people cheer him. His character is the arrogant snob, it only works as a heel. We've seen it work once in the instance I mentioned, unless someone else can come up with another case....?

To get people to cheer him, I think wwe would need to completely redo the character and take him off tv for a good period of time. Something I doubt they'd do.
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Old 09-24-2005, 06:16 AM   #18
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JBL as a face? Some of you see it, I don't

The only possible way I could see it, was if he had a situation similar to The Rock circa 1999. When you were supposed to boo him, but he was so over that he got cheered. I don't see JBL as that entertaining or anywhere remotely close that would make people cheer him. His character is the arrogant snob, it only works as a heel. We've seen it work once in the instance I mentioned, unless someone else can come up with another case....?

To get people to cheer him, I think wwe would need to completely redo the character and take him off tv for a good period of time. Something I doubt they'd do.
Arrogant snob getting cheered???

Orton
Christian to an extent.
Angle

There is no man on the roster who could not be turned heel (or face, in theory). The problem is, the WWE writer's just don't know how to do it

I do, but that's neither here nor there.
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Old 09-24-2005, 10:58 AM   #19
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Arrogant snob getting cheered???

Orton
Christian to an extent.
Angle
I'd have to disagree with you there. Angle and Christian, although they are 'snobs', are superior wrestlers and many fans recognise and appreciate their abilities. JBL is not.

Orton, although he is not as talented as the above two, was cheered mostly because his character was changed for his face run. He lost his arrogance et al and became this soggy personification of what the WWE thinks fans like.

Orton received cheers when he was bad at two specific occassions, one - when he was feuding with Foley, and once again the feud was warmly received and appreciate by the fans (albeit not a great technical affair); and two - when his face turn was so obviously imminent that we couldn't help ourselves. He wasn't neccesarily being cheered for being Orton the heel, but for being the Orton who teases a face run.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:34 PM   #20
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No. Casual wrestling fans like Christian because he's funny, and he has decent catch phrases.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:49 PM   #21
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Not just that. I mean Ken Kennedy is funny and has great catchphrases, as is Nova, but they aren't cheered to the extent that Christian is
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:54 PM   #22
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Most casual fans still don't know that Simon Dean IS Nova.

You have to remember name value. Kennedy is new, they don't know who he is. Christian has been around for a long time, fans remember his various face runs, title wins, tlc matches, etc. It's not surprising he's cheered.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:56 PM   #23
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Jaton, you are of course, right.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:57 PM   #24
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Heh. I'm glad you admit it.
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:00 PM   #25
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I'm not going to argue with you like most posters do when they can't admit defeat. Although I will say that your avatar needs work
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:05 PM   #27
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:10 PM   #28
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Oh that *so* doesn't count.
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Old 09-24-2005, 03:59 PM   #33
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Honestly, despite the arguments i'm hearing that JBL could be a face, it would hard for me to cheer for him with his current look, charisma, ect.
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I'd have to disagree with you there. Angle and Christian, although they are 'snobs', are superior wrestlers and many fans recognise and appreciate their abilities. JBL is not.

Orton, although he is not as talented as the above two, was cheered mostly because his character was changed for his face run. He lost his arrogance et al and became this soggy personification of what the WWE thinks fans like.

Orton received cheers when he was bad at two specific occassions, one - when he was feuding with Foley, and once again the feud was warmly received and appreciate by the fans (albeit not a great technical affair); and two - when his face turn was so obviously imminent that we couldn't help ourselves. He wasn't neccesarily being cheered for being Orton the heel, but for being the Orton who teases a face run.
Appreciate their ability? No offense, these are the fans who need to change their pants after watching Hogan and Austin wrestle... JBL may not be the best technical wrestler, but his style is very suitable for the WWE. He has a decent, high impact style, that can be viewed as legit. It's not about in ring style though. For the most part, it's really about the mic work and mannerisms. I love Christian, but right now, mic wise, he can't touch JBL

The key to turning JBL face would be finding someone the fans hate more, that's it. Foreigners work great for this. I don't see it happening anytime soon, as there's not really a heel on Smackdown who comes close to JBL's level of heelishness ( Don't get me wrong, Orton and Eddy are great heels, especially Eddy. People hate JBL naturally though.)

Since Hassan is gone, the only person I could see JBL having a strong face run against would be HHH, or MAYBE Kurt Angle.


Look at the past few months. How many people have been as consistently good as JBL has been on the mic... Back to the original "It's morning again" victory speech, he's basically been spot on, every time. Even when Kurt Angle had his " I want to have beastiality sex with Booker T's wife" promo, JBL was still golden. I'm not blaming Kurt by any means, but JBL is gold. HHH can't touch him on the mic either.

Fuck it, I'll be TPdubbs official JBL mark.
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Old 09-25-2005, 09:53 PM   #36
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Old 09-26-2005, 12:02 AM   #38
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JBL is the top mic worker in the WWE right now.
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Old 09-26-2005, 12:06 AM   #39
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So does that mean you think he could turn?
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Old 09-26-2005, 12:30 AM   #40
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He could. But why?? He's one of the best mic heels the business has ever seen.
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