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Old 03-24-2007, 05:02 PM   #1
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Die, Lashley, Die
Man, I hate Lashley. He has no concept of ring psychology, and his matches are just way to simple. And it confuses me because he comes from a wrestling back ground. I mean last night he was getting his ass handed to him for a good 5 minutes by Kennedy and Orton, then out of no where I just drops them through 2 tables. His matches are so fucking anti-climatic.

I really hope Umaga goes over him. It would be kinda sweet if they brough in a few more Samonians and had a stable.
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Old 03-24-2007, 05:04 PM   #2
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Does the title of this thread mean "The Lashley, The"?
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Old 03-24-2007, 05:07 PM   #3
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Does the title of this thread mean "The Lashley, The"?
No, Die in German does me the, but it is the female from of "the." In German the correct way to say it would Der Lashley, Der.
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Old 03-24-2007, 05:31 PM   #4
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That match could have been gold but Lashley fux'd it up. I thought it was going to be good and the Taker vs Booker/Finlay was going to be bad but the opposite happened. It was just Lashley beating down on Kennedy and Orton most of the time except for a few moments here and there.
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Old 03-24-2007, 05:50 PM   #5
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For probably the first time ever, I'm with BDC on this one. I hate Lashley.
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Lashley blows major ass. I have no idea why Lance Storm was so big on him...
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Old 03-24-2007, 07:21 PM   #7
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I will say he can hit a crisp suplex now and then, and has a few moves he can pull off. With that said, he has absolutely no charisma and terrible ring psychology. Every single one of his matches he gets beat down a while and then goes on this brief rampage of destruction and annihilates his opponents.
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Old 03-24-2007, 07:22 PM   #8
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I don't like Umaga either but at this point I'd much rather see him go over.
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Old 03-24-2007, 07:27 PM   #9
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Lashley does have charisma. It really oozes out of him at times. Some of the simple stuff he does has nearly caused me to mark out, which is an achievement to say the least. He should really be on SmackDown! working mid-card matches, though.

His placement is really doing more harm than good to him, at present.
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Old 03-24-2007, 07:33 PM   #10
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His placement is really doing more harm than good to him, at present.
I suppose a good deal of my despite could be because of this. He has come out of nowhere, basically, and became a main eventer. Not just any main eventer, a dominate main eventer that can win a handicap match against a former World Champion and a guy on the fringes of the title picture. He's just horribly unbelievable.
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I reject the notion that he has charisma, however.
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Old 03-24-2007, 07:37 PM   #12
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The charisma he has is the ass-kicking kind. Whenever he opens his mouth, it tends to disappear for periods of time. When he was on SmackDown! it was more noticeable, because the WWE wasn't working against it. His matches with Finlay and King Booker were really quite good.

The WWE should have left Heyman in charge of ECW and let him turn Lashley heel. Bobby Lashley vs. Rob Van Dam for the ECW World Championship at WrestleMania 23 would have been awesome.
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Old 03-24-2007, 07:39 PM   #13
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He has the ass-kicking look but not to match his ridiculous push.
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Old 03-24-2007, 08:31 PM   #14
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I will say he can hit a crisp suplex now and then, and has a few moves he can pull off. With that said, he has absolutely no charisma and terrible ring psychology. Every single one of his matches he gets beat down a while and then goes on this brief rampage of destruction and annihilates his opponents.
Um. Sounds like ALL of our champions right now.
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Old 03-24-2007, 09:34 PM   #15
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No, Die in German does me the, but it is the female from of "the." In German the correct way to say it would Der Lashley, Der.
Simpsons's reference. Nothing more.

Anyway, Lashley comes from a legit wrestling background. Saying that this would give you a sense of ring presence is like saying that pro wrestlers should understand Kazushi (SP).

Psychology, showmanship, etc., are not functions of ameteur wrestling, anymore than taking someone's center is a function of pro wrestling. You might pick it up, but it's sure as fuck not a part of the actual show.

I think he was pushed too soon, and that we would benefit from him having more schooling, butthe lack of psychology is jardly shocking.
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Old 03-24-2007, 09:38 PM   #16
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Has he not paid his dues enough?
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Old 03-24-2007, 09:40 PM   #17
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Old 03-24-2007, 09:47 PM   #18
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I was shocked too.
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Yeah, this isn't even normal premature ejaculation.

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Lashley needs more matches with more established veterans. They were doing well for a while with him and Finlay, but he still needs a little bit more. He's got presence, but his matches aren't exciting. He needs a program with Undertaker or Flair.
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Old 03-24-2007, 10:58 PM   #22
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Lashley needs more matches with more established veterans. They were doing well for a while with him and Finlay, but he still needs a little bit more. He's got presence, but his matches aren't exciting. He needs a program with Undertaker or Flair.
Or just send Finlay to ECW.
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Old 03-25-2007, 12:56 AM   #24
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Lashley does have charisma. It really oozes out of him at times. Some of the simple stuff he does has nearly caused me to mark out, which is an achievement to say the least. He should really be on SmackDown! working mid-card matches, though.
No he doesn't. You can say he has charisma as much as you want, doesn't make it true. I think you are just secertly gay for Lashley and hide behind the charisma shield so you don't look gay. It is cool if you are gay, Tovo is gay and I'm cool with him. So just be your self buddy. (font color=back)faggot(/font)
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Simpsons's reference. Nothing more.
Fine, sorry. The it would be more correct to say "Der Bart, Der." I'm a 25 year old conserveative, I know of Sideshow Bob.
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Fine, sorry. The it would be more correct to say "Der Bart, Der." I'm a 25 year old conserveative, I only watch the Simpsons for Rod and Tod .
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No he doesn't. You can say he has charisma as much as you want, doesn't make it true.
You can say he doesn't, but that doesn't make it true.
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Old 03-25-2007, 09:41 AM   #29
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:09 AM   #30
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No he doesn't. You can say he has charisma as much as you want, doesn't make it true. I think you are just secertly gay for Lashley and hide behind the charisma shield so you don't look gay. It is cool if you are gay, Tovo is gay and I'm cool with him. So just be your self buddy. (font color=back)faggot(/font)
Nah, if I wouldn't shed a tear if Lashley was sent back to OVW. He'd be better used there, anyway.

Bobby Lashley is charismatic. Hell, he was charismatic enough to brainwash Vince into thinking he deserves the monster push he's getting (which is completely unjustified, by the way).

The guy was really quite enjoyable in his SmackDown! days, squashing guys like Simon Dean, and working matches with Finlay.
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Lashley does have charisma. It really oozes out of him at times. Some of the simple stuff he does has nearly caused me to mark out, which is an achievement to say the least. He should really be on SmackDown! working mid-card matches, though.

His placement is really doing more harm than good to him, at present.
If this doesn't prove Lashley should be on Heat, nothing will.
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If this doesn't prove Lashley should be on Heat, nothing will.
I'm sorry, A6, but the Pep has a pretty incontrovertable point.
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Old 03-25-2007, 06:56 PM   #33
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Haha, it's true. I hate to admit it, but it is.
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But I seriously like Lashley. He's just not skilled enough to be where he is, even though he could be in a couple of years. He's got ALL the tools, I think.
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