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Old 08-06-2007, 02:58 PM   #1
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I guess Bret never saw Kurt Angle coming. I'm pretty sure Kurt at his craziest would beat Bret at his finest.

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Old 08-06-2007, 02:59 PM   #2
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Kurt Angle could take that title and I would not object. I honestly believe he's the best professional wrestler ever.
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Old 08-06-2007, 03:03 PM   #3
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Kurt Angle is the man. No questions asked. Bret Hart is a bitch. No explanations needed.

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Old 08-06-2007, 03:04 PM   #4
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I agree. Kurt can play any role and is about the level of performer as Hart was in his heyday. But I could never buy Hart as a heel. He never looked convincing imo. That's where Angle is better. Hart could play babyface and that's about it. Angle feuded with EVERYONE and I can't remember one feud that was boring. Including his final feud with Cena.

Hart, despite my personal opinion about him, is one of the best ever - but Angle - in his prime - was better than Hart in his prime.
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Old 08-06-2007, 03:04 PM   #5
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There isn't anything Kurt Angle can't do in wrestling.
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Old 08-06-2007, 03:08 PM   #6
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I agree. Kurt can play any role and is about the level of performer as Hart was in his heyday. But I could never buy Hart as a heel. He never looked convincing imo. That's where Angle is better. Hart could play babyface and that's about it. Angle feuded with EVERYONE and I can't remember one feud that was boring. Including his final feud with Cena.

Hart, despite my personal opinion about him, is one of the best ever - but Angle - in his prime - was better than Hart in his prime.
Kurt past his prime is still better than Hart during his prime.
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Bret Hart was easily my favorite growing up, and he will always have a special place in my heart...but Kurt Angle is the best of all time.
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:01 PM   #11
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Angle is highly overrated.

Wrestling wise, he thinks like an amateur, but he forgets to sell, he forgets to use proper psychology.

As for the entertainment side of things, Angle was fine as a dufus, but that's about it. Crazy, RAAAAWRRRR Angle made me take a piss break every time he came on tv.

And a dufus cannot compare to the Excellence that is the Hitman. When Angle gets reactions that Bret was getting with ease, then we can talk.
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:03 PM   #12
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Angle is highly overrated.

Wrestling wise, he thinks like an amateur, but he forgets to sell, he forgets to use proper psychology.

As for the entertainment side of things, Angle was fine as a dufus, but that's about it. Crazy, RAAAAWRRRR Angle made me take a piss break every time he came on tv.

And a dufus cannot compare to the Excellence that is the Hitman. When Angle gets reactions that Bret was getting with ease, then we can talk.
I disagree.
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:16 PM   #13
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I dont see why. Angle acting as if he could be anything but a dufus just wouldnt take. His intense promos and his drooling and foaming at the mouth that you saw later on in his wwe career was just pretty laughable. How anyone could take him seriously I do not know. He couldnt pull that off well at all. And the fans didnt buy it. He looked like he needed to take a serious shit for most of those remaining months or years whatever it was.

He couldnt even find his own fucking entrance music.
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:19 PM   #14
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:25 PM   #16
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:42 PM   #17
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I dont see why. Angle acting as if he could be anything but a dufus just wouldnt take. His intense promos and his drooling and foaming at the mouth that you saw later on in his wwe career was just pretty laughable. How anyone could take him seriously I do not know. He couldnt pull that off well at all. And the fans didnt buy it. He looked like he needed to take a serious shit for most of those remaining months or years whatever it was.

He couldnt even find his own fucking entrance music.
I still disagree. Kurt is god...a crazy god...but a god none the less. Hart had the same match every time all the time.
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:47 PM   #18
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lol c'mon now. Angle has been doing the same match for a long time now.
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Old 08-06-2007, 06:21 PM   #19
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lol c'mon now. Angle has been doing the same match for a long time now.
Nuh-uh. Angle is way more awesome.
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Old 08-06-2007, 06:42 PM   #20
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Nuh-uh. Angle is way more awesome.
That might be true, but he's still been wrestling the same match for a few years now regardless of how awsome he is.
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Also Stasiac made that segment even better.
He made a lot of segments better.

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Promo wise he is better for sure. But Bret's matches are a lot more entertaining. Bret is easier to watch for me. Kurt probably one day could suprass Bret as the greatest wrestler ever, but he has only been a pro for about 8 years. At this point in Bret's carrer he was just getting his first tag title (maybe not even). And I haven't seen Bret's Calgary work but I can only assume it was better than his WWE work, given the greatness of his opponents. Tough debate, but I say Bret because he is a legend and Kurt isn't yet.
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I still disagree. Kurt is god...a crazy god...but a god none the less. Hart had the same match every time all the time.

KOTR 93 is just one example that immediately came to mind that disproves your theory.

Angle wishes he could work with just about anyone and make them look good. It's a rare gift though.

Angle looked good because Benoit made him look good. When he wasnt wrestling Benoit, Angle looked inconsistent, and plainly above average athletically, but as a pro wrestler, he was not the man.
Shamrock was a great shoot fighter, but not a great pro wrestler. Same deal applies here. They were good, but not even top 5.
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The best ever was clearly Kevin Nash. If you disagree you don't know wrestling and you should just go away and the second best wrestler ever was clearly D-Lo Brown.
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:49 AM   #31
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oh yeah, Bart Hart or whatever his name was can't even hold the jock strap of Shawn Michaels who was a great rassler. If Brot were so good, he would have beaten Michaels at Survivor series 97!
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:55 AM   #32
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In my opinion Kurt Angle was a better champion than Bret Hart but Bret Hart was a better psychological wrestler and knew how to sell moves, also Angle had a better title reign
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:03 AM   #33
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Jake the Snake was better.
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:06 AM   #34
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The best ever was clearly Kevin Nash. If you disagree you don't know wrestling and you should just go away .
Agreed, and let it be written into law.
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:12 AM   #35
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also, the title of the thread is the best there is and was and all that. Yet no mention of Tyson Tomko or Prince Albert??????
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:17 AM   #36
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Jake the Snake was better.
In psychology, yes... also in Math.
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:38 AM   #37
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Well at least we can all agree that Bret Hart is the most overrated wrestler of all time.
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Well at least we can all agree that Bret Hart is the most overrated wrestler of all time.
Owen was better. Why did God not take away the crappier Hart brother instead of Owen?
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Owen was better. Why did God not take away the crappier Hart brother instead of Owen?
Bret is winning the Polls - http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66863
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Old 08-07-2007, 03:29 AM   #40
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that poll was unfair and biased and I think it is racially unfair. I got tricked into voting for Bret, what a sham!
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