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You think any WWE wrestlers could make it in MMA?
I think lashley might under some training since he's got years of amature wrestling experience.
anyone else? ![]() Grand Champ of the Arcade: 6/26/15 - 4/09/20 4/14/20 - Present Last edited by Savio; 12-23-2007 at 08:14 PM. Reason: typo |
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Ric Flair.
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Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas have solid wrestling backgrounds, so with training they might hold their own, as alot of guys with their backgrounds are flocking MMA.
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What do you mean, "make it?" I wouldn't particularly think of many people who could be a champion per se, but Folks like the aforementioned WGTT could easily make SOMETHING of themselves in MMA.
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by make it I mean be a regular "wrestler" wether they be as good as Rampage or as bad as Keith Jardine both of those still are quite regular in the events
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Steve Blackman probably could have.
And as long as Stiener can still use roids, he could kill someone. |
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Kurt Angle could do it... WITH A BROKEN FREAKIN' NECK! And HGH.
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ONLY, I repeat, ONLY the guys with NCAA and above wrestling backgrounds could stand any chance of being average, hell, maybe they could be great, you never know. But that is it.
Kurt is too old and broke, and Steiner cannot fucking MOVE, let alone win a fight. He can barely FAKE fight. Steiner 10 years ago would rule be formidable. Before he exploded with roids. Im not so sure on Blackman, what is his background again? Anything legit? |
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Beyond that, I know that pro wrestling has this whole rep for being fake, but you will learn to kick the shit out of people from wrestling training. Would I put it up against a traditional martial art? No. But it could be a decent base for MMA in the right cases. |
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As for the Wrestling Base.....Maybe, I wont say no, because I dont know. But learning to bump and learning a few moves is different than a fight/match. You can teach anyone moves, but it takes experience and alot of natural instinct. Some people are naturally good fighters. Some people are just awkward. Case in point, Maria. She can train all she wants, and they can teach her moves, but she always just looks awkward, like she doesn't belong in a ring. Not the best example for a MMA thread, but you get the idea. |
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That is two off the top of my head. Nunzio and Funaki are both shoot wrestlers, which means they could probably handle themselves in a fight. As KK said, I would not want to get into a fight with someone trained in the Hart Family Dungeon. William Regal has also been kicking ass since about the age of 15. He might not be trained in any official martial art, but the instict is there. Last edited by Mr. Nerfect; 12-21-2007 at 11:24 PM. |
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The Kid at Virginia Tech has a background in killing people, but would get fucked up in MMA.
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Not with his bare hands, he doesn't.
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Back in the Taz would have been able to as well.
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Also, most of the shit heads that get into mma are just that shit heads that just fight because they wasted the free education. Plus, that killer instinct and knock out punch is all you really need.
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What makes MMA fighters so much better than boxers or pro wrestlers in their fighting ability?
I know they have training in various martial arts and wrestling, but I would imagine that practically every wrestler in the WWE has the size and ability to train to become an MMA star. I'm just trying to understand why MMA fighters are being put on such a higher platform than these other guys. |
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Granted, it's mostly hype, but this shit has a strong philisophical base. |
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Maria's T&A. try picking someone who's not, you know, a Diva, at least.
Sensei actually made the point that very little separated legitimate pro wrestling training from a legit martial art. The primary differences deal in philosophy. He loved to use Hulk Hogan as an example, though he's probably a pretty poor one. Though it was interesting picturing Hogan as Uke. but yeah, philosophy. This is why Jericho could beat up Goldberg. I wouldn't want to fuck with someone who came out of Stu Hart's Dungeon or Japan, "fake" wrestlers or not, if I didn't have to. This opinion may vary, but I tend to respect Sensei's opinion. He's an afficianado of MMA and wrestling (which makes the Hulk Hogan comments amusing, but...), so I don't think he's just talking out his arse. And while Maria might not ever be a threat, that doesn't mean someone like Victoria or Trish couldn't fight. Would they? Doubt it, but could they? Well, they're there for more than TNA. Of course, a lot of the guys today are broken down hasbeens. Even some of the "younger" stars, like Batista (Who collects his Social Security in two years). That does cramp things. I'm betting with a bit of training, your average young pro wrestler could become your average MMAer, as long as we're not talking about them actually being top tier guys. That's another story. |
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CM Punk and RVD could probably do well for themselves.
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One of the first MMA practitioners was Antonio Inoki...
I'd be remiss to forget Dan Severn, who was a wrestler BEFORE getting big in MMA. As far as WWE wrestlers. If they were younger, I'd say Regal and Finlay could BOTH fuck up some people. |
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Wasn't Dan Severn some MMA guy before he showed up in WWF? They were all like "He's so dangerous!!!" and put over his armbar finisher as the most devastating thing ever.
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He was NWA Wrestler before debuting at UFC 4, IIRC. One of the main reasons UFC went from the BJJ era to the Wrestling era (with him, Frye, Coleman, and Couture)
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Al Snow and RVD are legit tough guys with martial arts backgrounds. I bet they could do alright for themselves.
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The more I think about it, the more I think RVD would do well. The guy is really flexible, which might help him (a little) in submissions and shit, and he could literally flip around and kick a guy's head off, I bet. The guy is also deceptively strong. Teach the guy some submissions, and I think he'd be there.
Also, if Vince wanted to embarrass MMA, he should get someone like Nunzio or Funaki, as I previously mentioned, to train for it and kick some ass (assuming it is possible for them to do so). |
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Kennedy's Escrima is probably all that matters. Tae Kwon Do isn't very practical.
EDIT: looked shit up, escrima focuses on weapons, guess he's fucked. |
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Not saying he would do well, just saying that he wouldn't exactly be a deer caught in the headlights. |
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Mick Foley
like in that one episode of The Simpsons where Homer becomes a boxer |
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