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Old 06-15-2009, 01:43 PM   #1
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Two vids of my band Skepsis from this past weekend (3rd song up)

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Old 06-15-2009, 03:29 PM   #2
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That kinda sounds like Evanescence to me, but then again I don't know shit about modern music and only heard some songs that were on tv.
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Old 06-15-2009, 03:34 PM   #3
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Your singer could do with a bit more vocal range.
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Old 06-15-2009, 05:14 PM   #4
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How long have you been together? You don't look like a band. You look like some friends who got together to play the high school talent show. Not much stage presence or particular charisma on any of you, but your vocalist in particular is just fucking awful. Dude just stands around. And doesn't have a very good voice to begin with.

The music itself was ok.
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Old 06-15-2009, 05:42 PM   #5
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lol those were their first 2 shows, calm down.

Yeah dude your lead singer hurts my soul . All the instrumental stuff is pretty bomb though.
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Old 06-15-2009, 05:45 PM   #6
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Old 06-15-2009, 05:46 PM   #7
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But bottom left, not the other guitarist in the band lol
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Old 06-15-2009, 06:00 PM   #8
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How long have you been together? You don't look like a band. You look like some friends who got together to play the high school talent show. Not much stage presence or particular charisma on any of you, but your vocalist in particular is just fucking awful. Dude just stands around. And doesn't have a very good voice to begin with.

The music itself was ok.
This was our first show. There were some mistakes.

We had a show next day and did much better. This one wasn't even that bad though.
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Old 06-16-2009, 02:04 AM   #9
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Instruments are tolerable. As soon as your singer started wailing I stopped the vid. You need to ditch that guy fast.
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Old 06-16-2009, 03:24 AM   #10
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:43 AM   #11
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Old 06-18-2009, 11:54 AM   #12
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Here is a third song from that night.

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Penner, your lead singer is the equivalent of clancy wiggum was to the b sharps
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:30 PM   #14
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Well, the vocals would be more acceptable if the guy was also playing rhythm guitar or bass or doing anything else but if you are just utilizing him for his vocal talents alone, you might want to consider getting somebody that can hit those notes a little better. Overall, it isn't as bad as everyone is making it sound. I quite liked it. But yeah, get a better vocalist and you guys are golden.
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:34 PM   #15
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He's good for us. Plus we've all known him forever and he's our good buddy. If we can just throw down a lot of backups and stuff I think it will sound mint.
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He's good for us. Plus we've all known him forever and he's our good buddy. If we can just throw down a lot of backups and stuff I think it will sound mint.
you're in full-blown fucking denial
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Listen, if this is just something you are doing for fun then your singer is fine. If you want to actually get anywhere though, I'd replace him. Not only because I think you could do better but because he's going to ruin his voice even more singing like that. If you keep him, at least have him take some voice lesson from a seasoned professional.
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Old 06-19-2009, 06:12 PM   #18
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Listen, if this is just something you are doing for fun then your singer is fine. If you want to actually get anywhere though, I'd replace him. Not only because I think you could do better but because he's going to ruin his voice even more singing like that. If you keep him, at least have him take some voice lesson from a seasoned professional.
He's got a point. If he's committed he will do this. You don't need to be like "Listen man you suck", you can jsut be like "You can be a lot better with some training". If he doesn't want to get better, then that shows his committment or lack their of. Part of being in a group is putting your ego aside.

PS. Penner is a sick, sick, sick guitarist.
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Old 06-19-2009, 06:16 PM   #19
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lol you guys should do a brief encore every time where your drummer and your bassist do blot rockin beats or whatever that fuckin song is.
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Old 06-19-2009, 10:16 PM   #20
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Your "singer" is fucking awful
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:36 PM   #21
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Some of the instrumental stuff is good, most of it is mediocre. Part of that is probably just that it's a live performance, since the video makes it sound like you have no balls. There are rhythm/tempo issues periodically, but you say it's the first time you performed live, so I expect kinks like that.

But yeah, your singer is fucking terrible. If you want to keep him, feel free, but I'm pretty sure that's going to be a serious problem for you.

The tunes themselves are pretty decent, really. I could see them being pretty damn good with a little polish and a singer who doesn't suck eight kinds of ass.
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:31 AM   #22
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Thanks for the criticism guys. I will be keeping our singer. I'm not going to change him because of some message board.

We went through like 5 singers before we settled on our buddy so you kinda see why it happened. That being said, I still think he's decent, and with a solid backing band things are going to be fine.

We are recording 4 tracks at the moment, I'll let you guys know when they are up so you can listen.
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its worth taking on board. i think you should at least suggest lessons to your singer and guage how dedicated he is off that. if you're just playing gigs for fun and have no aspirations beyond that then it's fine, enjoy yourself, but if you're aiming for something higher you really need to adapt. he is the focal point and front man of your band and the rest of you could be as cool as led zeppelin in the background but with the guy wailing away like that people are going to tune out and/or leave.

im not saying you need to dump him cause honestly anyone can sing pretty much, but you need to check out his determination and discipline. i know how hard it is to find reliable people to form bands with.

ps. cool kids play with their guitar hanging low.
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Guitar players who play difficult shit wear it high. e.g. Protest The Hero
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He is dedicated. The 4 singers before him constantly flaked on us or were worse.

Plus he's our buddy from high school and we like him.
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Thanks for the criticism guys. I will be keeping our singer. I'm not going to change him because of some message board.

We went through like 5 singers before we settled on our buddy so you kinda see why it happened. That being said, I still think he's decent, and with a solid backing band things are going to be fine.

We are recording 4 tracks at the moment, I'll let you guys know when they are up so you can listen.
No offence but it's not just the message board who thought he sucked hahaha... most people I was around that night were not too impressed. That being said he probably just needs some time to find his voice. The good thing is intrumentally you guys are very very good.
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i know. i find it a lot easier playing it high too, like the level it would be were i sat. but it's not the same. plus if you have a meedly meedly bit you can just pull the neck of the guitar up towards your head and it's easier then and you look like more of a rockstar.
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Nah. I like how it is.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:50 AM   #29
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He is dedicated. The 4 singers before him constantly flaked on us or were worse.

Plus he's our buddy from high school and we like him.
That's great - he just can't sing.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:23 AM   #30
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I don't think your singer is that bad he just seems to have ZERO confidence and stage presence. You guys are kinda a bit boring musically and on stage. Still that will improve I understand its early days.

If you actually have a PROPER recording with decent levels I will judge your singer but the dude is terribly mixed in the performance.

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And its not like a good singer is a necessity to being a successful "punk" group anyway. Look at Castevet or something like that. Having your vocals mixed to the point of DROWNING out the instruments though is silly. My ears actually bled a little when he started to yell.

The fundamentals are all there. You guys can play your instruments its just its music I have heard before a thousand different times, with a nervous singer and a group with very little stage presence.

You need to find your own sound

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Old 06-26-2009, 03:04 PM   #31
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Did one of you mass spam my video?
Who is that much of a loser?
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