WCW was better.

**St. Jimmy** · 08-21-2009, 04:45 AM

WCW PPV's 1989 - 1999.
http://www.justin.tv/wrestlingloverz

**Juan** · 08-21-2009, 04:50 AM

Wow, an actual contribution to the wrestling forum from St. Jimmy.

**BDR** · 08-21-2009, 12:10 PM

Does not like the vault's direct competition.

**St. Jimmy** · 08-21-2009, 02:31 PM

The vault doesn't show much wrestling, and it's mostly ROH/WWF product. WCW was better. Also I cannot STAND ROH.

**Juan** · 08-21-2009, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy

WCW was better.

*In your opinion

**St. Jimmy** · 08-21-2009, 05:17 PM

And my opinion is all that matters.

**BigDaddyCool** · 08-21-2009, 05:19 PM

I don't know...but I do miss them.

**kareru** · 08-21-2009, 05:21 PM

*starts a slow clap*

**St. Jimmy** · 08-21-2009, 05:21 PM

The Outsiders, The Horsemen, non b-team nWo, the Luchas, Crow Sting, Tony Shavone, War Games, World War 3. So much greatness.

And if you go back, The Hollywood Blondes, Cactus Jack, Vader, Rick Rude as WCW International Champion. Fucking amazing.

**kareru** · 08-21-2009, 05:23 PM

and nWo-Souled out 1997

**St. Jimmy** · 08-21-2009, 05:23 PM

funniest PPV ever.

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-21-2009, 05:25 PM

There was a WCW International championship?

**St. Jimmy** · 08-21-2009, 05:27 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCW_Int...t_Championship

**BigDaddyCool** · 08-21-2009, 05:28 PM

Plus just solid undercard wrestling. Oh, and Nash.

**St. Jimmy** · 08-21-2009, 05:32 PM

Exactly. Nash was the most expensive man to be in the ring with, fined with those 50K per Jacknife.

**St. Jimmy** · 08-21-2009, 05:43 PM

Also, Drunk Scott Hall

**Vastardikai** · 08-21-2009, 05:49 PM

They also had "the Lone Wolf" era of Barry Windham, which I still say is one of the main inspirations behind "the Game" gimmick for Trips.

**Kami Raki** · 08-21-2009, 06:36 PM

Wrestling wise, I'd say yeah. Even in it's dying years WCW had solid wrestling.

**Afterlife** · 08-21-2009, 06:38 PM

Never watched it. Kinda glad.

**Nicky Fives** · 08-21-2009, 06:42 PM

the best moments of WCW are better than WWE nowadays, but the crappier WCW moments cannot be compared with the crappy moments of WWE....

**USAUSA1** · 08-21-2009, 10:39 PM

Look at each company peak:

WCW:97 or 98 depending on who you ask(people might forgot about 1998 due to the Mcmahon vs. Austin storyline and Russo crash tv but WCW was still pretty damn awesome to the point even Hogan was having high quality matches from time to time)

WWE:87,89,97,98 depending on who you ask but these four years will get the most votes.

ECW:94-95 by far

TNA:LOL its hard to choose.

AAA: 94

CMLL:too hard to tell but they were breaking records in 2005/2006.

JCP:1986

Mid SOuth:84

WCCW:83

I always thought WCW in 1997 was the perfect wrestling company. You had many different styles,variety of wrestlers from around the world that truly felt like a worldwide organization. The storylines drew heat,you had big names,legends. You had enough tv time for everyone but it didn't feel oversaturated like WWE trying to put a show on television every night of the week. Nitro was the main show, Pro and Main event was the 1 hour cable weekend shows for c list guys and to review storylines. Worldwide was the national syndicated show like Pro and Main event but use big stars from time to time. Saturday night was the show that had ALL THE IN RING ACTION and was strictly to showcase the best wrestling possible. They had everything, and it truly felt like a WORLDWIDE wrestling federation. WWE might called itself the biggest wrestling fed in the world but I don't see any lucha,puro,international wrestlers on the shows. Same goes for TNA and ROH. World Elite,they might be international wrestlers but they act and wrestle like everyone else so it's not really a variety.

**Bad Company** · 08-21-2009, 11:08 PM

WCW was my favourite.

**kareru** · 08-22-2009, 10:09 AM

im getting the rise and fall of wcw today, its going to be immense

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-22-2009, 10:16 AM

what the fuck. ROH has plenty of puro, Lucha, etc. wtf

**USAUSA1** · 08-22-2009, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox

what the fuck. ROH has plenty of puro, Lucha, etc. wtf

Not on every show and where is the lucha?

**Indifferent Clox** · 08-22-2009, 04:40 PM

They have a lot of lucha style wrestlers every so often.

**kareru** · 08-22-2009, 04:48 PM

wcw popularized many of the luchadors

**loopydate** · 08-22-2009, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy

The Outsiders, The Horsemen, non b-team nWo, the Luchas, Crow Sting, Tony Shavone, War Games, World War 3. So much greatness.

And if you go back, The Hollywood Blondes, Cactus Jack, Vader, Rick Rude as WCW International Champion. Fucking amazing.

Cactus Jack Lost In Cleveland, "That '70s Guy" Mike Awesome, Black Scorpion, David Arquette, Shockmaster, Chamber of Horror, G.I. Bro, Oklahoma, Oz, Dennis Rodman, Jay Leno, Karl Malone, Spin the Wheel Make the Deal, The Yeti...

I loved WCW too, but they had just as much, if not more, terrible storylines and characters as WWF/E.

**kareru** · 08-22-2009, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loopydate

Cactus Jack Lost In Cleveland, "That '70s Guy" Mike Awesome, Black Scorpion, David Arquette, Shockmaster, Chamber of Horror, G.I. Bro, Oklahoma, Oz, Dennis Rodman, Jay Leno, Karl Malone, Spin the Wheel Make the Deal, The Yeti...

I loved WCW too, but they had just as much, if not more, terrible storylines and characters as WWF/E.

but even the terrible characters/storylines were loved in a strange way, unless it was russo

also wcw had

"Screamin'" Nor-MAHN Smi-LAY

**DAMN iNATOR** · 08-23-2009, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USAUSA1

Look at each company peak:

WCW:97 or 98 depending on who you ask(people might forgot about 1998 due to the Mcmahon vs. Austin storyline and Russo crash tv but WCW was still pretty damn awesome to the point even Hogan was having high quality matches from time to time)

WWE:87,89,97,98 depending on who you ask but these four years will get the most votes.

ECW:94-95 by far

TNA:LOL its hard to choose.

AAA: 94

CMLL:too hard to tell but they were breaking records in 2005/2006.

JCP:1986

Mid SOuth:84

WCCW:83

I always thought WCW in 1997 was the perfect wrestling company. You had many different styles,variety of wrestlers from around the world that truly felt like a worldwide organization. The storylines drew heat,you had big names,legends. You had enough tv time for everyone but it didn't feel oversaturated like WWE trying to put a show on television every night of the week. Nitro was the main show, Pro and Main event was the 1 hour cable weekend shows for c list guys and to review storylines. Worldwide was the national syndicated show like Pro and Main event but use big stars from time to time. Saturday night was the show that had ALL THE IN RING ACTION and was strictly to showcase the best wrestling possible. They had everything, and it truly felt like a WORLDWIDE wrestling federation. WWE might called itself the biggest wrestling fed in the world but I don't see any lucha,puro,international wrestlers on the shows. Same goes for TNA and ROH. World Elite,they might be international wrestlers but they act and wrestle like everyone else so it's not really a variety.

I think strong cases could all be made for '96 (debuts of Rock, and Angle), as well as '99-'01, as far as the peak period in the WWE.

08-21-2009, 04:50 AM	#2
Juan Doin' It Right Posts: 35,460	Wow, an actual contribution to the wrestling forum from St. Jimmy.

08-21-2009, 12:10 PM	#3
BDR King of the Fucking World Posts: 114	Does not like the vault's direct competition.

08-21-2009, 02:31 PM	#4
St. Jimmy Last of a Dying Forum Posts: 16,215	The vault doesn't show much wrestling, and it's mostly ROH/WWF product. WCW was better. Also I cannot STAND ROH.

08-21-2009, 05:19 PM	#7
BigDaddyCool Pelvic Sorcerer Posts: 64,762	I don't know...but I do miss them.

08-21-2009, 05:21 PM	#8
kareru TPWW's Hardcore Legend Posts: 2,502	starts a slow clap

08-21-2009, 05:23 PM	#10
kareru TPWW's Hardcore Legend Posts: 2,502	and nWo-Souled out 1997

08-21-2009, 05:25 PM	#12
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	There was a WCW International championship?

08-21-2009, 05:27 PM	#13
St. Jimmy Last of a Dying Forum Posts: 16,215	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCW_Int...t_Championship

08-21-2009, 05:28 PM	#14
BigDaddyCool Pelvic Sorcerer Posts: 64,762	Plus just solid undercard wrestling. Oh, and Nash.

08-21-2009, 05:32 PM	#15
St. Jimmy Last of a Dying Forum Posts: 16,215	Exactly. Nash was the most expensive man to be in the ring with, fined with those 50K per Jacknife.

08-21-2009, 05:43 PM	#16
St. Jimmy Last of a Dying Forum Posts: 16,215	Also, Drunk Scott Hall

08-21-2009, 05:49 PM	#17
Vastardikai Taller than Adam Cole Posts: 10,876	They also had "the Lone Wolf" era of Barry Windham, which I still say is one of the main inspirations behind "the Game" gimmick for Trips.

08-21-2009, 06:36 PM	#18
Kami Raki KOW Posts: 299	Wrestling wise, I'd say yeah. Even in it's dying years WCW had solid wrestling.

08-21-2009, 06:38 PM	#19
Afterlife So fucking sexy. Posts: 20,100	Never watched it. Kinda glad.

08-21-2009, 06:42 PM	#20
Nicky Fives b/c 5 is better than 4 Posts: 9,721	the best moments of WCW are better than WWE nowadays, but the crappier WCW moments cannot be compared with the crappy moments of WWE....

08-21-2009, 10:39 PM	#21
USAUSA1 Junior Member Posts: 70	Look at each company peak: WCW:97 or 98 depending on who you ask(people might forgot about 1998 due to the Mcmahon vs. Austin storyline and Russo crash tv but WCW was still pretty damn awesome to the point even Hogan was having high quality matches from time to time) WWE:87,89,97,98 depending on who you ask but these four years will get the most votes. ECW:94-95 by far TNA:LOL its hard to choose. AAA: 94 CMLL:too hard to tell but they were breaking records in 2005/2006. JCP:1986 Mid SOuth:84 WCCW:83 I always thought WCW in 1997 was the perfect wrestling company. You had many different styles,variety of wrestlers from around the world that truly felt like a worldwide organization. The storylines drew heat,you had big names,legends. You had enough tv time for everyone but it didn't feel oversaturated like WWE trying to put a show on television every night of the week. Nitro was the main show, Pro and Main event was the 1 hour cable weekend shows for c list guys and to review storylines. Worldwide was the national syndicated show like Pro and Main event but use big stars from time to time. Saturday night was the show that had ALL THE IN RING ACTION and was strictly to showcase the best wrestling possible. They had everything, and it truly felt like a WORLDWIDE wrestling federation. WWE might called itself the biggest wrestling fed in the world but I don't see any lucha,puro,international wrestlers on the shows. Same goes for TNA and ROH. World Elite,they might be international wrestlers but they act and wrestle like everyone else so it's not really a variety.

08-21-2009, 11:08 PM	#22
Bad Company Mad Posts: 26,228	WCW was my favourite.

08-22-2009, 10:09 AM	#23
kareru TPWW's Hardcore Legend Posts: 2,502	im getting the rise and fall of wcw today, its going to be immense

08-22-2009, 10:16 AM	#24
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	what the fuck. ROH has plenty of puro, Lucha, etc. wtf

08-22-2009, 04:40 PM	#26
Indifferent Clox emerge Posts: 16,710	They have a lot of lucha style wrestlers every so often.

08-22-2009, 04:48 PM	#27
kareru TPWW's Hardcore Legend Posts: 2,502	wcw popularized many of the luchadors