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Old 04-10-2004, 02:56 AM   #1
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Who beat goldberg ending his streak?
I was just thinking about this and couldnt remember. I keep thinking it was nWo related. Also what number did his streak end at?

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Old 04-10-2004, 03:23 AM   #2
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I think it ended at 173,but I know it was Kevin Nash.

Nash defeated Goldberg with help from Scott Hall and a 'shock stick'.
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Old 04-10-2004, 03:24 AM   #3
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Also,I think that was at Starrcade (IIRC) 1998.
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Old 04-10-2004, 03:55 AM   #4
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Yep Starrcade 1998 indeed. Also Disco Inferno helped as well if i am not mistaken :\
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Old 04-10-2004, 05:12 AM   #5
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It was one of those taser gun/cattle prod thingies. And yes it was Nash who pinned him. Hall held the weapon
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Old 04-10-2004, 06:10 AM   #6
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In retrospect...

why do we bitch about HHH when Goldberg never paid his dues...and went that long?
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Old 04-10-2004, 09:26 AM   #7
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In retrospect...

why do we bitch about HHH when Goldberg never paid his dues...and went that long?
Easy. Goldberg was drawing (big time too I might add). You don't piss around with your number one draw. The fans didn't want to see him lose so why beat him?
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Old 04-10-2004, 12:27 PM   #8
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Yeah, I know you can't place the blame for WCW's downfall on one single moment, but that was a HUGE blow to the company when Goldberg lost and then was made to look like even more of a loser the next night on Nitro.
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Old 04-10-2004, 12:53 PM   #9
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why do we bitch about HHH when Goldberg never paid his dues...and went that long?
Who cares if he paid his dues?

If Triple H could draw like that...
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Old 04-10-2004, 01:11 PM   #10
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Yeah, I know you can't place the blame for WCW's downfall on one single moment, but that was a HUGE blow to the company when Goldberg lost and then was made to look like even more of a loser the next night on Nitro.
Well the one finger push Nitro was the nail in the coffin.
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Old 04-10-2004, 02:16 PM   #11
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Im wondering, did the number of wins include house shows? And if not, did he ever lose at a house show?
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Old 04-10-2004, 02:17 PM   #12
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lol wcw ran house shows :\
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Old 04-10-2004, 02:19 PM   #13
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Old 04-10-2004, 02:32 PM   #14
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I remember hearing about him losing a match at a house show before the streak ended.

But I'm not sure if it's true.
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Old 04-10-2004, 02:33 PM   #15
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WCW had the occasional house show. But it was basically a TV show.

And as bad a decision as turning Goldberg inot a jobber, or the fingerpoke of doom was, I actualy think the worst was when Sting came down from the rafters after an eight month buid-up at Starcade and couldn't manage a clean pin on Hogan; he needed Bret's help, a referee reversal, and a quick count??? Yeah, that's what the fans wanted.
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Old 04-10-2004, 04:17 PM   #16
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Well the one finger push Nitro was the nail in the coffin.
Yeah, Basically Starcade 99 and the Nitro after was what destroyed WCW
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Old 04-10-2004, 04:27 PM   #17
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WCW had the occasional house show. But it was basically a TV show.

And as bad a decision as turning Goldberg inot a jobber, or the fingerpoke of doom was, I actualy think the worst was when Sting came down from the rafters after an eight month buid-up at Starcade and couldn't manage a clean pin on Hogan; he needed Bret's help, a referee reversal, and a quick count??? Yeah, that's what the fans wanted.
That was bad, but Goldberg was just getting big, so they had something with him. If someone in WCW had half a brain, they would of let Goldberg go undefeated as long as the fans still payed money to see him win all the time. Then you build someone like Benoit up for months so he seems like a legitimate contender for the title. And you have to make the fans Want to see Benoit beat Goldberg. Then they do a babyface match and Benoit takes the title and they shake hands after the match. Well, that's how I would of done it.
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Old 04-10-2004, 04:34 PM   #18
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why do we bitch about HHH when Goldberg never paid his dues...and went that long?
Because you can't have someone go undefeated if they lost. I'm pretty sure that was WCW's plan for him.
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Old 04-10-2004, 04:36 PM   #19
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That was bad, but Goldberg was just getting big, so they had something with him. If someone in WCW had half a brain, they would of let Goldberg go undefeated as long as the fans still payed money to see him win all the time. Then you build someone like Benoit up for months so he seems like a legitimate contender for the title. And you have to make the fans Want to see Benoit beat Goldberg. Then they do a babyface match and Benoit takes the title and they shake hands after the match. Well, that's how I would of done it.
Anyone with a brain would have done that.

Or had Bret Hart beat him. That would have been respectable.
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Old 04-10-2004, 04:45 PM   #20
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Anyone with a brain would have done that.

Or had Bret Hart beat him. That would have been respectable.
Oh crap, I forgot Bret was there. Yeah, Bret would have been the BEST choice to go. It would of been a better storyline to see the respectable veteran in Bret Hart putting on a wrestling clinic and beating Goldberg by simpily out wrestling him. Dam, that would of been something to watch.
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Old 04-10-2004, 04:46 PM   #21
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Old 04-11-2004, 08:32 AM   #22
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Bret hart sucks
Cheap heat gets you nowhere here dude.
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Old 04-11-2004, 02:19 PM   #24
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Didn't Eric Bishoff say the nail in the coffin was when Goldberg beat Hogan on Nitro as opposed to a PPV?
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Old 04-12-2004, 01:11 AM   #26
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well in reference to Savior- you suck

but a goldie question... how many times did he lose in WCW and to who?
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Old 04-12-2004, 03:11 PM   #29
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Well all I remember was him losing to Nash at Starrcade, Bret Hart for the U.S. Title, Bret Hart for the World Title at Starrcade, Bret Hart for the World Title on the Nitro after, Booker T on some show and Steiner at Fall Brawl.
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Didn't Eric Bishoff say the nail in the coffin was when Goldberg beat Hogan on Nitro as opposed to a PPV?
First of all, Bischoff booked like that he did the one finger push and Goldberg's first loss.

Secondly, Goldberg was drawing long after he beat Hogan so that excuse is lame.
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At the same time, everyone has the right to think (and call) you a retard.
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Old 04-13-2004, 11:04 PM   #35
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Didn't Eric Bishoff say the nail in the coffin was when Goldberg beat Hogan on Nitro as opposed to a PPV?
Personally I think that was a bad call, because they pissed away a lot of money by giving away that match for free.

However in one sense it was good because a huge TV audience got to see Goldberg win the WCW title, and do it by beating Hulk Hogan clean in the middle. That scene really made him look like the biggest star in wrestling at that point.

Goldberg was still a draw after that. The problem was that Hogan swerved Goldberg out of the top spot, and used the Warrior to put himself back in the top spot while Goldberg worked a secondary role feuding with people like DDP. Then the Nash/Hogan thing killed him as a draw.

But if Bischoff thinks Goldberg winning the title on free TV killed WCW he's either lying or dillusional.
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Old 04-14-2004, 08:20 PM   #37
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Well, all of those factors previously mentioned, along with having the same top guys started a slow fall from grace, but we all know who ultimately killed WCW: Jamie Kellner.


By the way, wasn't Goldberg's loss to Booker T. on a Monday Nitro (which I think was a World Title match) his only clean loss?
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