Bryan Danielson Released

[Xero]

From Daniel Bryan's Twitter: Just changed my twitter name to Bryan Danielson. The winds of change are stirring.

[Jordan]

Mmmmmhmmmmm

[StingerSplash4Lyf]

Damn you got my hopes up. i thought this boring ass colin delaney ripoff was going back to the old ladies bingo hall or maybe even school to learn how to wrestle. Fuckin yard tard.

[Skippord]

Apparently it was Bryan Danielson who hacked StingerSplash4Lyf's shit

[Xero]

Honestly, I never stopped calling him Danielson and wouldn't have. "Daniel Bryan" is a fucking stupid name.

[StingerSplash4Lyf]

daniel bryan ripping off colin delaney is the biggest ripoff since that bruce lee wannabe played the crow who was a pathedic rippoff of the crow stinger (2nd best stinger)

[Tazz Dan]

Honestly, I never stopped calling him Todd and wouldn't have. "Daniel House" is a fucking stupid name.

[Xero]

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[Tazz Dan]

lol. Kyle is a soft name. Where's Triple Naitch???

[Tazz Dan]

Oh wait, I see what you were doing there. :shifty:

[Droford]

So maybe:

Skip Sheffield --> Ryan Reeves
Darren Young --> Fred Sampson
Justin Gabriel --> Paul Lloyd Jr
Wade Barrett --> Stu Bennett
David Otunga --> David Otunga
Micheal Tarver --> Tyrone Evans
Heath Slater --> Heath Miller
and
Micheal Cole --> Micheal Coulthard

[Xero]

Some of them should keep their name as they work. I wouldn't change Young, Gabriel or Tarver. Skip Sheffield should probably just drop the Skip. Don't really mind the rest either way, though I'd prefer Wade Barrett.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't think everyone needs a name change. But I am glad that Bryan Danielson might be getting a chance to call himself such. I'd keep the others as they are. The only one I'd think about changing is Skip Sheffield. Call him "Ryan Sheffield" or something. His "Ryback" name in developmental was pretty...interesting.

[Droford]

He doesn't look like he could be related to

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[Theo Dious]

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[SuperSlim]

ummmmmmm

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/14734694

that site says Daniel Bryan is gone too

[Razzamajazz]

what What WHAT

[Executioner]

:wtf: Well....FUCK!

[thecc]

http://www.f4wonline.com/content/view/13690/

Name change for WWE wrestler and now a fake firing PDF Print E-mail

Bryan Danielson, formerly Daniel Bryan and for about two minutes Bryan Danielson in WWE, appears to be Danielson again.

His WWE twitter name was just changed to Bryan Danielson and he mentioned it, saying "the winds of change are stirring."

WWE then announced Daniel Bryan had been future endeavored, which would be the first time they've used their web site to do a fake firing.



Thanks to Kevin Stone

[FearedSanctity]

Gotta be a work. Please. Can't believe I want Danielson in WWE, but I wanna so where this NXT angle goes

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>This has to be a work.

In fact, I can see the other rookies except Barrett being "released" this weekend. Spreading them out adds effect.</font>

[Razzamajazz]

they fired daniel bryan, but bryan danielson is still with them

[Executioner]

<font color=goldenrod>This has to be a work.

In fact, I can see the other rookies except Barrett being "released" this weekend. Spreading them out adds effect.</font>

True, but if its not a work.....:|

[Razzamajazz]

this is a great way to add to kayfabe and keep the interest in the angle

[SuperSlim]

Yeah it has to be a work to bring in Brian Danielson. So WWE using the internet... hmmm get the IWC up in a roar and then...

ah man that is clever. I like it.

[XCaliber]

Barrett had mentioned the winds of change way back and there are a few I would suggest name alterations but not for all of them some are fine the way they are.

[Savio]

This is not a work, every time someone gets fired someone says its a work and it never is.

He shouldn't have spat in Cena's face.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>NXT made constant references to the internet...Danielson is the easy target to make this angle enter the real world.

The ONLY reason I would see him being fired otherwise was if they were pissed at him for choking out Justin Roberts and/or spitting on Cena, both of which were cut out when the angle was replayed throughout the week.</font>

[Evil Vito]

This is not a work, every time someone gets fired someone says its a work and it never is.

He shouldn't have spat in Cena's face.

<font color=goldenrod>If he was fired for one of those reasons, he wouldn't have worked the FCW event and played a huge part in the storyline.</font>

[Tazz Dan]

Maybe Daniel Bryan is going to TNA? Maybe that's the surprise?

[jerichoholicninja]

Excellent storyline.

[Lock Jaw]

They're gonna bring him back as Daniel Cole, and reveal he was Michael Cole's brother all along.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The only awkward thing is that they kept saying on commentary that none of them were contracted - sans Barrett. Then WWE.com says he was released from his contract, despite not supposed to have one.

Anyway, I'm hella intrigued now. I was wondering if WWE would ever use their website to conduct fake firings.

If Otunga, Gabriel, Slater, Sheffield, Young, and Tarver follow on WWE.com throughout the weekend, we'll know it's a work for sure - so I kinda think it'll just stay Danielson.</font>

[FearedSanctity]

WWE is obviously about fucking with the IWC lately, so of course it's Danielson first. Just to get everyone talking. Others will probably be "released" soon

[Jordan]

I am sure it's a work but if not that is horrible.

[Savio]

I will avatar bet all of you that this is not a work

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>What I'm interested in seeing is if the other rookies get released over the weekend, will their real names be acknowledged in the press release too?

Using Danielson's real name is fine, since everybody knows it and they've even acknowledged it on air. But it'd be confusing as fuck if they changed everybody else's names (sans Otunga, who uses his real name anyway)</font>

[BillyBonez]

Anybody who thinks this is real needs to watch a different show. If u have been paying attention, this is OBV a part of the NXT invasion storyline.

[Savio]

I will avatar bet all of you that this is not a work

[TazFTW86]

<font color=goldenrod>NXT made constant references to the internet...Danielson is the easy target to make this angle enter the real world.

The ONLY reason I would see him being fired otherwise was if they were pissed at him for choking out Justin Roberts and/or spitting on Cena, both of which were cut out when the angle was replayed throughout the week.</font>

i think its real...fucked up reasons to be released tho, cause supposably not that many people knew about it..

[Razzamajazz]

according to the largest faggot in the world, i mean ryan clark, he "failed a drug test and refused to go to rehab click here for more"

[FearedSanctity]

<font color=goldenrod>The ONLY reason I would see him being fired otherwise was if they were pissed at him for choking out Justin Roberts and/or spitting on Cena, both of which were cut out when the angle was replayed throughout the week.</font>

Was not aware of this. May be gone then. As much as it added to the moment, you know WWE doesn't want their golden boy disrespected like that.


Oh yeah, or people choked the fuck out.

[BigCrippyZ]

Maybe Vince is worried he freaked out the kids and their parents. :?:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>If WWE were pissed off at him for doing that, they'd make him the jobber in the group or something. They wouldn't just fire him and fuck up the entire storyline by having all of these unemployed guys showing up even though WWE.com says they have contracts cause Daniel Bryan got fired.</font>

[FearedSanctity]

<font color=goldenrod>If WWE were pissed off at him for doing that, they'd make him the jobber in the group or something. They wouldn't just fire him and fuck up the entire storyline by having all of these unemployed guys showing up even though WWE.com says they have contracts cause Daniel Bryan got fired.</font>

While I see your point, wasn't he the jobber of the group already anyway? :p

[Seth82]

read somewhere else that his release is all part of the NXT storyline

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Also, Danielson saying "The winds of change are blowing" on his Twitter...not exactly something I'd be saying if I had just been released during the middle of a huge storyline.</font>

[Xero]

I had actually posted a title as a joke, then this appeared on WWE.com:

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/14734694

WWE has come to terms on the release of NXT first season rookie Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson) as of today June 11, 2010. We wish Daniel Bryan the best in all future endeavors.

--

Probably a work.

[Jeritron]

Why wouldn't it be a main feature on the front page?

[Sixx]

On June 11th 2010 WWE announced on WWE.com that Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson) had been released from World Wrestling Entertainment. Whether this is kayfabe or not has yet to be confirmed.

That's from wiki, take it or leave it.

[Xero]

Why wouldn't it be a main feature on the front page?

They don't do that with most talent. It's usually hidden away in "WWE News". Did that with the last wave of releases and pretty much everyone for the past two years.

[Lock Jaw]

Probably 100% real.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Gotta applaud WWE here, assuming it is a work (which I'm 95% sure it is).

This is the perfect way to do it. In the world of kayfabe, all of them deserve to be fired (hence, I'd have to think the others will get fired in time) - but cutting them all in one press release would be an obvious work. Doing it gradually and starting with the guy that would generate far and away the most buzz, is awesome.</font>

[Tazz Dan]

I certainly hope whoever left The Undertaker in the vegitative state gets released too. Or is spitting on Cena worse?

[Jeritron]

They don't do that with most talent. It's usually hidden away in "WWE News". Did that with the last wave of releases and pretty much everyone for the past two years.

Yea but those are real releases. How many people do they think are going to actually find this?
I suppose they're just relying on the internet fans to do the promotion.

[FearedSanctity]

Come on guy, 'Takers situation is obviously part of a story, spitting on Cena not so much

[Sixx]

Maybe they kayfabe released him, to introduce this totally new guy Brian Danielson, who wears not red trunks, but blue.

[Jeritron]

<font color=goldenrod>Gotta applaud WWE here, assuming it is a work (which I'm 95% sure it is).

This is the perfect way to do it. In the world of kayfabe, all of them deserve to be fired (hence, I'd have to think the others will get fired in time) - but cutting them all in one press release would be an obvious work. Doing it gradually and starting with the guy that would generate far and away the most buzz, is awesome.</font>

Don't they not even have contracts to be released from in kayfabe?

[Xero]

Yea but those are real releases. How many people do they think are going to actually find this?
I suppose they're just relying on the internet fans to do the promotion.

Yeah that's all I can figure. It's to piss of internet fans, assuming it's not legit.

If it's legit, wow, WWE are fucking idiots.

[Tazz Dan]

Come on guy, 'Takers situation is obviously part of a story, spitting on Cena not so much

I'm not sure I've interacted with you much, but are you really that fucking thick to believe I'm being serious.

Now redeem yourself and support a Tazz Dan Moderation. :mad:

[Xero]

It's also in line with WWE releasing talent late on a Friday.

[rob11]

It would really suck if this was real and the reason was for spitting on Cena. You never know with Vince.

[Jeritron]

Every company makes their firings on friday to reduce the chances of any kind of workplace incidents

[Jeritron]

In this case, they were too late.

[Sixx]

What's the story with him spitting on Cena?

[Inadequacy]

Don't they not even have contracts to be released from in kayfabe?

FCW developmental contracts?

Bleh?

[FearedSanctity]

I'm not sure I've interacted with you much, but are you really that fucking thick to believe I'm being serious.

Now redeem yourself and support a Tazz Dan Moderation. :mad:

You know how the internet and sarcasm go together so well.

And NEVERRRRRRRRRR

[Xero]

What's the story with him spitting on Cena?

He spit on Cena and said "You're not better than me" on RAW.

[Tazz Dan]

Every company makes their firings on friday to reduce the chances of any kind of workplace incidents

In this case, they were too late.

After Chris Benoit they obviously don't want to take any chances.

[FearedSanctity]

He spit on Cena and said "You're not better than me" on RAW.

But the bigger deal about that is that that part and him choking Roberts were cut out of replays

[BigCrippyZ]

People arguing that this is not a work do have some good points, but I still think it's most likely a work. Still a good idea though, if it is in fact a work.

[Evil Vito]

Don't they not even have contracts to be released from in kayfabe?

<font color=goldenrod>Well, I was thinking that too - but in NXT did they ever explicitly say they were competing for a contract? I know they were competing for a PPV title match, but I thought it was implied that they were all signed to WWE and could still wind up getting brought to Raw or SmackDown or something.

Who knows. If this is a work though, I'd be a bit miffed if they DIDN'T "fire" anybody else, just cause it doesn't make much sense.

I'd fire all of them except for Barrett...then SHOCK OF SHOCKS - they all show up to help him win the WWE Title at Fatal 4 Way or something.</font>

[Jeritron]

Everything about the presentation is legitimate. It's common sense that says it's a work.

[Sixx]

He spit on Cena and said "You're not better than me" on RAW.

So apparently you're being sarcastic with that being the reason. Ok nevermind.

[Tazz Dan]

You know how the internet and sarcasm go together so well.

And NEVERRRRRRRRRR

You have just made a powerful enemy. :mad: :mad:




Ok, not so much enemy, but still. Just don't tell anyone it's a work on my part.

[BigCrippyZ]

But the bigger deal about that is that that part and him choking Roberts were cut out of replays

Worried about this coming back to haunt Linda's Senate campaign perhaps? :shifty:

[Jeritron]

If tomorrow afternoon rolls around, and they haven't "future endeavored" another NXT rookie, the IWC is really gonna start to sweat

[XCaliber]

But the bigger deal about that is that that part and him choking Roberts were cut out of replays

That may have more to do with the ridiculous look on his face while he was being choked.

[Tazz Dan]

Really? I don't see anyone from the IWC believing this and running around updating their fb status' ...... :shifty:

[FearedSanctity]

That may have more to do with the ridiculous look on his face while he was being choked.

I would think thats a typical "I'm being fucking choked" face

[Juan]

lol @ this entire thread

Who says kayfabe is dead???

[Jeritron]

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911 operator, what is your emergency?

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IS BRET OKAY?????

[Xero]

:rofl:

[Tazz Dan]

:lol:

[XCaliber]

I would think thats a typical "I'm being fucking choked" face

Dunno about anyone else but when I saw it a first I laughed at it tbh he kinda oversold it in my estimation.

[Xero]

lol if Danielson really was choking him and that's why he was released.

[BigCrippyZ]

lol if Danielson really was choking him and that's why he was released.

I would think he would've been released the next day.

[FearedSanctity]

Dunno about anyone else but when I saw it a first tbh I laughed at it he kinda oversold it in my estimation.

Yeah it was ridiculous, but I think it may have come from surprise as to how Bryan was choking him. Really did look as if he was doing some damage there

[Evil Vito]

lol if Danielson really was choking him and that's why he was released.

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, he would have probably been fired immediately - and certainly wouldn't have worked Wednesday's FCW show.

Plus, although the guys at ringside weren't told what was going to happen, I'd have to think they clued him in when they were grabbing him/ripping off his shirt/etc. what was going to happen. He could have said no.</font>

[BigCrippyZ]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, he would have probably been fired immediately - and certainly wouldn't have worked Wednesday's FCW show.

Plus, although the guys at ringside weren't told what was going to happen, I'd have to think they clued him in when they were grabbing him/ripping off his shirt/etc. what was going to happen. He could have said no.</font>

Now that I think about that, maybe that's why Cole ran off.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Within WWE, the word has been sent out internally that the Bryan Danielson firing is legitimate. All the higher-ups in the company were informed that he was gone before the item that everyone assumes to be a work was put on the web site. It's difficult to believe given the timing that it could possibly be legitimate. The idea they would work Donna Goldsmith and Michelle Wilson on a wrestling angle is also hard to fathom, and we've already seen examples of companies trying to work its employees and they are never good in the long-run.

SOURCE:</font> http://www.f4wonline.com/content/view/13691/

[Xero]

Holy shit.

[FearedSanctity]

Don't think it's been mentioned in this thread, but those who are basing the "it's a work" argument on it saying Daniel Bryan was released, should check out the news posting itself:

WWE has come to terms on the release of NXT first season rookie Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson) as of today June 11, 2010. We wish Daniel Bryan the best in all future endeavors.

Though it could just as easily be something to just add to the realism. We'll see in a couple days, I guess

[DAMN iNATOR]

Wow, they're really doing their best to pull a Dan Brown hear with the "this is legitimate" thing. I'm convinced this is all just an elaborate work.

[BigCrippyZ]

Wow, this is getting pretty nuts. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>WWE are absolute fucking geniuses if they went to this on a work. And if it's real, well, then they just ruined the best angle they have had in 10 years and my excitement for the product has dropped as fast as it went up since Monday.

Can't wait to see where this leads.</font>

[DarKCentaur]

I feel like if it was real, they wouldn't have went out to their way to say "NXT first season rookie Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson)". Hello redundancy.

[Kane Knight]

Within WWE, the word has been sent out internally that the Bryan Danielson firing is legitimate. All the higher-ups in the company were informed that he was gone before the item that everyone assumes to be a work was put on the web site. It's difficult to believe given the timing that it could possibly be legitimate. The idea they would work Donna Goldsmith and Michelle Wilson on a wrestling angle is also hard to fathom, and we've already seen examples of companies trying to work its employees and they are never good in the long-run.

SOURCE: http://www.f4wonline.com/content/view/13691/
Do we put the IWC on suicide watch now, or wait a few days?

[FearedSanctity]

I feel like if it was real, they wouldn't have went out to their way to say "NXT first season rookie Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson)". Hello redundancy.

...what? They mentioned where he'd be known from (similar to a superstar from RAW or Smackdown) his on-screen name and his real name, same as they've done before

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, why is that redundant? That is who he is.

Anyways, since the beginning of this I have been going under the assumption that this is real. I wonder what the deal is.

[Kane Knight]

WWE are absolute fucking geniuses if they went to this on a work. And if it's real, well, then they just ruined the best angle they have had in 10 years and my excitement for the product has dropped as fast as it went up since Monday.

Can't wait to see where this leads.
Wait, what?

How is one firing going to "ruin" the angle?

Maybe I'm missing the obvious satire in what seems like a huge mood swing, but Jesus.

[BILLO]

If this is a work then fuck me the wwe have reallllly stumped me. Fucking excited about this whole angle. So good that its this interesting with batista hhh taker hbk all out. finally some other talent can get in the spotlight.

this can either set a new era for WWE or just completely fizz out and continue with CeNaTiOn for another 10 years.

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah, def won't ruin the angle, but it'll take out a part that the IWC had invested in

[Lock Jaw]

Someone should make an official poll for work/reality so that whoever is right can go "neener-neener".

[FearedSanctity]

Be hilarious if this was all just so Vince could kick the IWC in the nads. Put Danielson on NXT to get us hoping, run the invasion angle to get us excited and just before Danielson can get his chance, BAM! Future endeavored

[Evil Vito]

Wait, what?

How is one firing going to "ruin" the angle?

Maybe I'm missing the obvious satire in what seems like a huge mood swing, but Jesus.

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, I'm just going overboard to vent my frustration :p Cause like many, I'd be pissed the fuck off.

The angle could still work, but it'd just be awkward. Plus I expected Danielson to be the ring general of the group - since really he and I guess Barrett are the only two with legit credibility at this point.</font>

[glanville6]

Someone should make an official poll for work/reality so that whoever is right can go "neener-neener".

I was just going to say that!

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, def won't ruin the angle, but it'll take out a part that the IWC had invested in

Which is the same thing around here. :D

[Xero]

Build it up as legit. Don't even mention Danielson for the next two weeks. Keep shit air-tight. Basically have five people, at most, know what's up.

Meanwhile, have the NXT guys take out Orton. Speculation runs wild that Barrett is putting in his title shot. Fatal Four Way comes around, and all the other participants are out.

Then...

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[Kane Knight]

Be hilarious if this was all just so Vince could kick the IWC in the nads. Put Danielson on NXT was to get us hoping, run the invasion angle to get us excited and just before Danielson can get his chance, BAM! Future endeavored

That would be the most extreme case of blue balls ever.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>If its a work and they go all out with this and leave him off of Raw this week, I pray he makes a surprise return on the 21st. I'll be there live. Would be insane.</font>

[legendkillerRKO]

dont they normally remove thr profile pretty quickly...cuz his profile is still up on WWEs site

[Xero]

anyone else smell a suprise 30th entry for the royal rumble????

lol build it up so Cole has #29 for whatever reason and they force him into the ring.

[FearedSanctity]

dont they normally remove thr profile pretty quickly...cuz his profile is still up on WWEs site

Usually, some linger though

[glanville6]

I bet he really is gone. Both sides have good points, but I'm going with the people who say that he is really future endeavored. I'd love for the positive people to be right, but I'm so used to being disappointed by WWE.

I guess they had to even out the season 1 rookies and season 1 pros. Ha.

But if I can be serious for a minute...

Why just release one today, and not the rest? Logically, if you are trying to avoid an invasion, you fire/release/ban from the building all 8 guys. Wade Barrett would be the only one who legitimately has a right to be there because he has a title match coming to him. Thats just logically.

And realistically- they haven't done it as a work, so why start now? Not saying they can't, but for someone new (at least to the majority of fans who watch WWE), I don't think they'd use wwe.com to further an angle like this.

Don't forget his height- if indeed the whole Roberts choke or spitting on Cena is a reason, him being a little guy makes him expendable.

It doesn't matter how good you are at what you do- if the boss doesn't want you around, you won't stick around. And if you aren't very good and the boss still likes you, you get to the top.

So I hope its a work- but I'm not convinced. We'll see.

[Kane Knight]

Usually, some linger though

Wouldn't it be amazing if their past failure to remove folks immediately was all building up to this work?

[Afterlife]

This is incredible.

[jskinnyg]

this is a great way to add to kayfabe and keep the interest in the angle

God I hope so, I would hate to think one of the best angle's they've had in years was squashed so soon....

[VSG]

Not sure whether to laugh or sleep over it. Probably the latter, things will be clearer in the morning I guess.

[Rammsteinmad]

Hoping this is a work, but knowing WWE...

[Mr. Monday Morning]

People are forgetting the match he had with Miz the other week. Presumably, kayfabe wise, he would have had to have been under contract to actually have a match on Raw. So there's your out, if you're looking for one.

[Splaya]

Guys, it's clearly a work. I'll be the voice of reason here. If they were truly mad at him for what he did on RAW (choking the announcer, and spitting on Cena) he would have been fired Tuesday. There's no way he would have worked the FCW show and then be fired 2 days later. WWE is using the Internet to its advantage. Remember, most people are not going to know about the FCW incident without the Internet. This is great strategy by WWE. If anything, this is going to INCITE fans to be pissed off. It will be interesting to see how long Danielson will be kept off TV

[VSG]

That was explained as a 1 night contract actually.

[VSG]

Guys, it's clearly a work. I'll be the voice of reason here. If they were truly mad at him for what he did on RAW (choking the announcer, and spitting on Cena) he would have been fired Tuesday. There's no way he would have worked the FCW show and then be fired 2 days later. WWE is using the Internet to its advantage. Remember, most people are not going to know about the FCW incident without the Internet. This is great strategy by WWE. If anything, this is going to INCITE fans to be pissed off. It will be interesting to see how long Danielson will be kept off TV

Dude that's all fine except for everyone reporting that WWE Creative was informed in the afternoon that he will no longer be available. The creative team MAKES these works and angles. Anyway..

[Splaya]

If this is a work, Joey Styles deserves a huge raise

[Lock Jaw]

I'll bet 5000 TPWWBucks that this is real and not a work.

[VSG]

I'll bet 5000 TPWWBucks that this is real and not a work.

I am going to agree :wavesad:

[Xero]

From PWInsider:

Former WWE star Daniel Bryan was released today as punishment for going beyond the company's standards and practices during the NXT angle on Monday, according to sources within the company. The belief among those I spoke to is that when Danielson choked Justin Roberts with his tie, he broke a company protocol that was put in place after the Benoit tragedy that talents were not to use ropes or objects to choke opponents.

I am told that the final decision was made earlier today and Danielson was informed shortly before the company publicly announced it. For those who are thinking this is an angle, I am told by everyone I have spoken to that it is not, although I want to point out a number of wrestlers in the company do believe it is a work.

For those who are wondering why the company is giving Danielson such a harsh punishment, well a former company executive is running for office, although how much of a cause and effect is there is anyone's guess. It's certainly a viable theory, since the company has been very gun shy about going outside of their PG rating.

There's no word as to whether Danielson was aware of the protocol at the time of the angle, although the Roberts choking was one of the elements that made the end of Raw so memorable. It's interesting to note that at least on the company's Youtube.com channel, the incident, including the choke, are available for viewing.

The loss of Danielson will immediately change the future of the WWE NXT angle since he was considered the most versatile and well rounded performer of the group and would have been extremely important in carry the brunt of the in-ring work load.

We'll have more on this as it develops.

[VSG]

So not informing Justin Roberts + going real = Firing?

[Xero]

lol I don't buy that it was the Benoit protocol.

Case-in-point:

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6:00...

[VSG]

Btw, do you actually have a PWI elite account?

[Xero]

I do.

[VSG]

That match was on a PPV, and 2 years ago they actually allowed blood as is seen. You can't compare things then to now, especially with Linda's campaign coming close to the end.

Edit: Went over to WWE.com to see the response of the "WWE Universe" hoping someone with authority had a comment in there. I just lol'd seeing 30 pages of discussion in there already.

Typical comment:-

Jun 12, 2010 -- 3:25AM, John Cena's Real Wife(Real one) wrote:
Yeah that ass deserved to be fired. You dont mess with my husband.


:nono:

[Xero]

Except that mentions it was put in place after the Benoit tragedy. Unless it was AFTER that (IE: start of the PG era, which happened a few months later) it was in effect then. That was about 6 months after "the incident".

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Jun 12, 2010 -- 3:25AM, John Cena's Real Wife(Real one) wrote:
Yeah that ass deserved to be fired. You dont mess with my husband.

lol

[Skippord]

interesting

[Ruien]

WOOOO, more talent for TNA to get.

[St. Jimmy]

What the fuck ever. It's my fault for getting excited at the product I guess.

[Favre4Ever]

WOAH just got home and read all this shit, this is ridiculous.

Danielson was one of the key points of an angle that seemed to be prepped to be one of the great angles of the decade. If he's really gone from the company, which appears to be legit, it just seems very silly. Retarded even.

My hope is that if this bridge hasn't already been burned for him, he doesn't burn it himself the way Mr.Anderson appears to have done with negative post-release comments about the WWE, because I know i'd like to see him back.

[Skippord]

at least we all learned a new wacky WWE rule

[teamXtremist]

if this is true what a horrible break for danielson

[Tazz Dan]

What about Slater? He started to wrap the ring ropes around Cena's neck. Where's his release?

[Johnny McNasty]

This shit is so disheartening if true.

[PullMyFinger]

LMAO Goodbye overrated internet wrestler! Have fun back in the indies since you couldn't cut the mustard of mainstream wrestling. Sorry chump.

[PullMyFinger]

WWE, get over it. Danielson is amazing.
So amazing that he's gone now. lol Wow. If he were that amazing, Vince McMahon and the WWE would've never let a money maker like him gone. They would've kept him at all costs to protect their AMAZING investment.

[PullMyFinger]

What about Slater? He started to wrap the ring ropes around Cena's neck. Where's his release?
He's worth more. Honestly, I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but it's been illustrated in the past that WWE will let certain wrestlers slide over something non drug related if they were worth it. Maybe in WWE's eyes Daniel Bryan wasn't worth as much.

[Tazz Dan]

You're honestly telling me that Heath Slater is a bigger draw than Bryan Danielson?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

He's worth more. Honestly, I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but it's been illustrated in the past that WWE will let certain wrestlers slide over something non drug related if they were worth it. Maybe in WWE's eyes Daniel Bryan wasn't worth as much.

lol

[Tazz Dan]

This shit is so disheartening if true.

kinda like RSG and Tazz Dan's wedding nuptials.

[Triple Naitch]

lol. Kyle is a soft name. Where's Triple Naitch???

Hey, Todd.

:foc:

[Afterlife]

I do have to wonder if "no choking" is a really that big of an issue in the company full of sleepers and chokeslams.

[Johnny McNasty]

Especially considering that just on last nights Smackdown!, Big Show attempted to "choke the life out" of C.M. Punk so he could get his mask off.

[addy2hotty]

Seriously, they sacked him for that?

I mean, seriously - if this is real - then I think there's a couple of producers and cameramen that probably need to walk as well. As well as Justin Roberts for pulling the faces.

Based on that alone, I can't believe it's real - I mean, zero tolerance to a reasonably new talent in an angle where they've been seemingly instructed to do what they want at ringside? Bah.

[leaping lanny]

You know the story about Vince having 2 black eyes the other day, i wonder if it was Danielson and thats why he got fired.That would make my day.

[Loose Cannon]

fucking A. They are going to roll with this angle. sweet

[Loose Cannon]

by the way, I think it's a work.

[Evil Vito]

http://twitter.com/Lagana/status/15983842937

<font color=goldenrod>WWE writer Dave Lagana's Twitter.

Anyway...I'm reading he's actually been canned, but they are just using him as a scapegoat and plan on bringing him back once it blows over.

It's still awkward storyline-wise. The guys aren't supposed to have contracts, so how could one of them be released? The NXT guys invading is supposed to seem like kayfabe is being broken, and then this release contradicts it. Their only real choice on Monday is to go on as though only 7 people are part of the group and make zero mention of Danielson, and it'd still feel weird.

Personally, if it's 100% real and they keep him unemployed for a few months, if I were Danielson I'd tell WWE to fuck off when the come calling for his return. That was almost universally the best part of the angle, and you're gonna shitcan him for it? He doesn't need WWE - probably would never become WWE Champion anyway.</font>

[Kane Knight]

Well, WWE had better close down now. I mean, it's clear that Daniel Bryan is not only vital to this angle, but to their future.

[erickman]

WOOOO, more talent for TNA to get.

and if they do the x cup this year we can mark out when he wins it.

[Razzamajazz]

and if they do the x cup this year we can mark out when he wins it.

and then they immediately fuck it up

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol, watching the part of the beatdown where Slater goes to choke Cena with the ring rope. He does it for about 1 second before Cena rolls over and Slater immediately stops. As if something popped in his head saying "shit, can't do that"

If the production truck hadn't caught Bryan choking Roberts, this may have never happened. Pretty crazy to think about.</font>

[Xero]

Taking a huge sign with Roberts being choked out to Fatal Four Way.

[Johnny McNasty]

If they truly plan on bringing him back once this situation cools down, than it really won't be that hard to spin his termination as part of the storyline. They could easily just have Cole(joyfully) mention that he went ahead and filed charges and brought up a lawsuit against Bryan for the assault that took place on NXT, and part of the lawsuit places a restraining order against Bryan from being within so many feet of Cole. Then they can continue along with the original storyline, and just bring Bryan back some time down the line. Things could possibly work out for the best if the WWE handles it right, and Bryan just chills out until every thing blows over.

[Schlomey]

i'm a sad panda

[James Steele]

Damn, you guys have it to where I don't know what to think on this. I'd imagine its legit, but who knows. Exciting.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>"Just changed my twitter name to Bryan Danielson. The winds of change are stirring."

That still just seems like such a weird thing to say when you've just had your big break squashed despite being in the middle of a major angle.

My official guess would be we only see Barrett the next few weeks (cause in kayfabe, the others should not be anywhere near a WWE event) - then the group can get brought back, Danielson included.</font>

[Loose Cannon]

well that twitter post to me screams work. Because it you look at Raw, Daniel Bryan pretty much morphed into Bryan Danielson. It seemed so real with him getting years of frustration out of watching guys who can't work make all the money. Now obviously Cena can work, but you know what I mean. So this whole name change thing seems in line with his character right now

[Kane Knight]

"Just changed my twitter name to Bryan Danielson. The winds of change are stirring."

That still just seems like such a weird thing to say when you've just had your big break squashed despite being in the middle of a major angle.

My official guess would be we only see Barrett the next few weeks (cause in kayfabe, the others should not be anywhere near a WWE event) - then the group can get brought back, Danielson included.

I think Occam's Razor would have something to say to that.

Not saying it's impossible, though if it is a work I'll likely be pegged as having said exactly that, but it seems more likely that he was future endeavored.

[Providence Peep]

Hey, guys. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents here. Because the announcement on the WWE website mentions Daniel Bryan *and* his real name, I'm afraid his firing might be legit. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. What I don't understand is WHY he was fired. Was it for spitting at Cena, or for choking Justin Roberts? Was either of those not part of the plan?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Hey, guys. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents here. Because the announcement on the WWE website mentions Daniel Bryan *and* his real name, I'm afraid his firing might be legit. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. What I don't understand is WHY he was fired. Was it for spitting at Cena, or for choking Justin Roberts? Was either of those not part of the plan?

Read the thread, it's the choke.

If WWE were ever going to work the IWC, it would be with someone like Daniel Brian.

Anyways, doesn't matter. If they want to follow through with the NXT angle, it will work with or without him.

Do I enjoy watching Daniel Brian? Yes, but it's not the end of the world if he did something he was well aware could get him reprimanded (according to some "reporters".)

[Evil Vito]

I think Occam's Razor would have something to say to that.

Not saying it's impossible, though if it is a work I'll likely be pegged as having said exactly that, but it seems more likely that he was future endeavored.

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, I think he's gone - but it may very well only be temporary. They plan on bringing him back when this all "blows over" so for now it would just seem to make sense to have Wade Barrett caution about more attacks coming while keeping the rest of the group off TV. As it is, they have a tough act to follow from last week so I'd have the group lay low as if they are "picking their spots".

Then once the next PPV comes around when Barrett cashes in his title shot, have the group show up again...complete with a re-hired Danielson. Then they can just continue on as if nothing happened.

They've ignored virtually every suspension/previous firing on air unless they are using it for a story (Jeff Hardy), so this would be no different.</font>

[Xero]

I think there's a chance that it's a work just because of how they worked the Monday angle in that no one knew what was going to happen.

And honestly, the best way to work the fans is to do it to the point where you're working the boys. If this IS a work, it's definitely a new leaf and a new era for WWE.

[Providence Peep]

Read the thread, it's the choke

So, there are people who think the choke was legit and wasn't scripted?

[Xero]

Not by WWE. Most of that segment was likely on the fly. They probably had instructions to attack whoever came near them, do the finisher fest on Cena and to fuck up the ring. Probably nothing much else than that. Which makes sense, considering it's pretty ridiculous how far they went with tearing up the ring mat and everything.

Remember that no one but Cena and the NXT rookies knew what was up. Maybe Punk did, but there's a chance that him getting into the ring to attack them was something he decided to do, which isn't out of the realm of possibility for Punk.

Obviously the choke wasn't "legit" and Roberts was clued in during the attack.

[rob11]

http://s3.tinypic.com/x5ttv5.jpg
A few days after, Andre was let go :(

[CSL]

It's really not that hard to understand them releasing him for choking the fuck out of Roberts after Benoit and with Linda running given how politics works. He'll be back down the line. Providing it isn't a very elaborate (and very un-WWE) work.

[Providence Peep]

Remember that no one but Cena and the NXT rookies knew what was up

:eek: I hadn't realized that.
So, was the choke legitimate? Or just done half-assedly? Or the powers-that-be just thought it was too much and are trying to save Linda McMahon's reputation?

[Xero]

Honestly, the choke is now making me realize what WWE is missing in general, violence. That was one of the most violent things on WWE tv in a long time. And when I say "violent", I don't mean WWE violence but legitimate "he's fucking him up" violence.

[CSL]

Remember that no one but Cena and the NXT rookies knew what was up

That's not true.

[Providence Peep]

Honestly, the choke is now making me realize what WWE is missing in general, violence. That was one of the most violent things on WWE tv in a long time. And when I say "violent", I don't mean WWE violence but legitimate "he's fucking him up" violence.

Why the hell did the cameraman show it on the original live broadcast?

[Xero]

That's not true.

This is what I've been hearing. Pretty much no one but the rookies and Cena knew, which is why Cole and Serena fled.

Sure, it's more of a rumor, but considering some of the reactions, I believe it.

[CSL]

No chance in hell (hur hur) every piece of visible public 'talent' from the workers to security to the announcers to Yeaton etc didn't know what was going on. It isn't WCW.

[Providence Peep]

Speaking of rumors, I just read on another site (WrestleZone) that the Mattel Toy Company complained about the choke and that's why he was fired! That almost seems laughable, and it might be completely false, but if it's a choice between sacking a wrestler who isn't a huge main eventer and losing one of the company's biggest sponsors then it's not really a tough choice for them to make. As Vince would say, "it's all about the monnnnnnnnnayyyyy!"

[CSL]

Exactly, it's not laughable at all if that were true, WWE make an incredible amount of money through Mattel.

[addy2hotty]

- We have just received information that Paul Levesque (Triple H) may have been the one responsible for Bryan Danielson (Daniel Bryan) being released from WWE. We do not know exactly the reasons behind this course of action but will update you later today once we find out more.

Wresling Insider - http://www.wrestlinginsider.org/?p=108

LOL.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Although I would prefer to keep the group (sans Barrett) off-screen to build up to the next attack, if they do continue on with just 7 guys, I hope they don't do the typical WWE move and go on as though nothing happened, and at least mention it. They can say one of them quit on the initiative, or something...and set up Danielson for a badass face run if he comes back. But if nothing else, they won't make the fans feel stupid for thinking "wait...wasn't there 8 guys?"

Hell, a little more brainstorming - if they are worried about not being at full strength and not having a versatile guy in the group to handle the brunt of the in-ring work, Kaval could EASILY be slotted in. Almost all of the NXT2 rookies claimed that what NXT1 did was a great way to make a statement, so he could easily join them and say that one week with Lay-Cool was more than he could stomach and he deserves better, etc.

Kaval can kick people's heads in just like Danielson, and would also fill the role of "internet darling" of the group.</font>

[CSL]

- We have just received information that Paul Levesque (Triple H) may have been the one responsible for Bryan Danielson (Daniel Bryan) being released from WWE. We do not know exactly the reasons behind this course of action but will update you later today once we find out more.

Wresling Insider - http://www.wrestlinginsider.org/?p=108

LOL.

I would avoid the internet like the plague if this were true.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I've never heard of wrestling insider so I won't believe that until there's a confirmation from a reputable source (I know, I know, IWC reporters aren't reputable. I mean more reputable.)

The whole article reads like it is just trying to stir up 'teh interwebs' for page views.

[addy2hotty]

I've never heard of wrestling insider so I won't believe that until there's a confirmation from a reputable source (I know, I know, IWC reporters aren't reputable. I mean more reputable.)

The whole article reads like it is just trying to stir up 'teh interwebs' for page views.

Indeed.

The whole thought of the IWC imploding with the theme of 'King Of Kings' playing made me chuckle. Quite hard.

[XCaliber]

For all we know maybe they're purposely removing him from tv for the simple fact that he made himself look better than Barrett during the whole ordeal with his whole verbal tirade on Cena.

[Xero]

If it's a work, they should now release Punk. Just "release" all the internet darlings. Get us talking even more.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I've never heard of wrestling insider so I won't believe that until there's a confirmation from a reputable source (I know, I know, IWC reporters aren't reputable. I mean more reputable.)

The whole article reads like it is just trying to stir up 'teh interwebs' for page views.

Actually, I'll also believe it if HHH is revealed as the mastermind behind the NXT attack.

[Providence Peep]

For all we know maybe they're purposely removing him from tv for the simple fact that he made himself look better than Barrett during the whole ordeal with his whole verbal tirade on Cena.

And better than Cena! hahahahah

[#BROKEN Hasney]

If it's a work, they should now release Punk. Just "release" all the internet darlings. Get us talking even more.

And Cena, just to make it look like WWE has totally fucking lost it and no-one knows what will happen.

[Xero]

lol "release" all the top faces and have them show up in ROH.

[Savio]

On air they should state that Justin Roberts has filed a restraining order against him.

[Providence Peep]

So, was the choke legitimate? Or was it done half-assedly and cause an injury? Or did someone think it just looked too real? Or too over-the-top and putting Linda's reputation at risk? I need answers!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

MAIN EVENT AT DEATH OR DISHONOR:

Fatal 4 Way for the ROH Pure title.

John Cena Vs. Randy Orton Vs. Daniel Brian (yeah, he kept the name) Vs. HHH

Cena wins with cattle mutilation

[Mooияakeя™]

Listen,

If it is true, we got an awesome picture out of it with Roberts.

But honestly, spitting in Cena's face, and closed fists on The Miz making his gums bleed etc. Maybe they just think he was being to "stiff" etc. Getting above his station.

I hope its a work. How many times did Cole say "Go back to the independents and shit about his internet buddies". It's 50/50 for me, but I reckon he's gone for spitting in Wiggers face.

[rob11]

Could WWE Y7 be too far ahead?

[Providence Peep]

I reckon he's gone for spitting in Wiggers face.

Careful! I mentioned that before in here, and was reprimanded for it.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Can't imagine that this is legit... Who knows though. WWE has made some stupid decisions in the past, but at the same time, they're trying to use the internet more now. If this is legit, it's fucking stupid.

[XCaliber]

Releasing him for spitting in Cena's face is utterly ridiclous there's been tons of guys that have done snot rockets on many occasion and nothing was ever done about it.

[TazFTW86]

I was gonna put a post up weeks ago, sayin that I think WWE woud fuck up with Bryan Danielson's character on TV as they did w/ Tazz. And I was right. This seems to be real. How many times has the WWE fucked things up? A lot! Just hope the Dragon shows up at the Sept 11th show in NYC and cuts a shoot promo (they can remove it off the DVD like they did w/ Cornettes ROH debut in the city)

[Loose Cannon]

Daniel Bryan is going to return as Curry Man

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I could see him being released for being too stiff, but at the same time, why actually release someone for that? It's not like he couldn't be warned.

The tie choking theory could be legit... Stupid, but legit. I mean, they had Batista try to run over Cena with a car, but choking someone with a tie is too much?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>My biggest concern about all of this is that I think it sets a really horrible precedent for the workers.

What made the angle so amazing was that all 8 guys seemed to be so lost in the moment. They genuinely looked like they wanted to fuck shit up, AmDrag included. This whole sense of getting lost in the angle really shined through and made it all the more memorable, and is something I haven't seen in quite some time.

But now, guys are going to be afraid to get lost in the angle. "Oops, this might look too violent and/or too stiff. Can't do that even if it makes sense, might be fired."

The company values its public image more than the product itself. I think we've all known that for quite some time, but this just validates it.</font>

[CSL]

I could see him being released for being too stiff, but at the same time, why actually release someone for that? It's not like he couldn't be warned.

The tie choking theory could be legit... Stupid, but legit. I mean, they had Batista try to run over Cena with a car, but choking someone with a tie is too much?

To Danielson's credit/downfall, it was a very realistic looking choke (probably because he was legit choking the fuck out of him)

[Providence Peep]

The tie choking theory could be legit... Stupid, but legit. I mean, they had Batista try to run over Cena with a car, but choking someone with a tie is too much?

Because it was too similar to the Benoit situation

[Providence Peep]

http://img1.tvloop.com/img/showpics/77/f7/l349256240000_1_20910.jpg

The WWE has just released Cookie Monster. I wish him well in all his future endeavors.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Because it was too similar to the Benoit situation

Still, choking someone is not as bad as trying to run them over with a car.

The Benoit theory is stupid, as people choke people all the time. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying it's stupid, and if that really is the reason, WWE is fucking retarded. Attacking women, hitting people with sledge hammers, trying to run over them with cars, chairs, etc, etc, but choking someone is too much? Come on.

[Providence Peep]

Still, choking someone is not as bad as trying to run them over with a car.

The Benoit theory is stupid, as people choke people all the time. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying it's stupid, and if that really is the reason, WWE is fucking retarded. Attacking women, hitting people with sledge hammers, trying to run over them with cars, chairs, etc, etc, but choking someone is too much? Come on.

I read somewhere that ever since the Benoit tragedy the WWE has had a rule about using objects to choke people. If Danielson knew about this, and I presume he did/does, but did the choke anyway then his firing is legit and makes sense. Maybe he just got caught up in the moment?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Except, of course, it's been done since then. Even if that's the rule, it's stupid, and a retarded reason to fire someone, if true. If he actually hurt Roberts doing it, that's one thing, but to fire him for doing it is idiotic.

[BollywoodSingh]

From liveaudiowrestling.com:

"The WWE announced Friday night that they have released Daniel Bryan.

It is not believed to be a part of the angle with the internal word that Bryan was fired for choking Justin Roberts with a tie (there was a ban on any choking spots following the Benoit murders).

Interestingly there was also a spot on 'Raw' where Heath Slater grabbed the ring rope to choke Cena but immediately stopped right after he began to."

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>In fairness, Roberts looked thoroughly confused during the whole thing. It could just be that he's a good actor, but when Slater and Gabriel grabbed him, he looked like he had no idea what the hell was going on.

I would think they told him what was going to happen when they ripped his shirt off, but that's still not really enough time to request to not be choked.</font>

[Providence Peep]

From liveaudiowrestling.com:

"The WWE announced Friday night that they have released Daniel Bryan.

It is not believed to be a part of the angle with the internal word that Bryan was fired for choking Justin Roberts with a tie (there was a ban on any choking spots following the Benoit murders).

Interestingly there was also a spot on 'Raw' where Heath Slater grabbed the ring rope to choke Cena but immediately stopped right after he began to."

This explains it, folks. :(

[Savio]

lol "release" all the top faces and have them show up in ROH.
Vince: "In order to clean our image for Linda's campaign we are going to need to cut a few wrestlers... Hip-hop is hurting our polls, Cena you're gone, No body likes death, Undertaker you are out, Due to the recent snake attack in florida we are going to have to cut you Randy Orton. Since Linda is running for office in America everyone who is not American is cut. Oh and edge this is the PG era......not the Rated R era so i am sorry you are cut as well.

Wrestler: "Triple H had sex with a dead body that's not hurting the polls!?"

Vince: "No surprisingly that's helping the polls"

[Providence Peep]

I still wonder if the choke was legitimate

[Providence Peep]

And why the hell would Danielson want to fuck up his status in the WWE by doing something he knows he wasn't supposed to do?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

And why the hell would Danielson want to fuck up his status in the WWE by doing something he knows he wasn't supposed to do?

A. He didn't know.

B. He was doing it as a camel clutch type thing, and didn't even think about the choke at the time (as Roberts was on his back, and Danielson was pulling him back in the same type of way, just with the tie.)

[Providence Peep]

A. He didn't know.

B. He was doing it as a camel clutch type thing, and didn't even think about the choke at the time (as Roberts was on his back, and Danielson was pulling him back in the same type of way, just with the tie.)

A. Health Slater seemed to know. I'm sure Danielson knew, too.
B. Very possible - he wasn't thinking. Apparently Justin Roberts knew nothing about it beforehand.

[BillyBonez]

I DO NOT believe it is real, still. It doesnt make sense. I still say its a work.
Im sure its just ppl making up excuses.
Still its fun to see people comment on it. Angle is working to make ppl pissd off.

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[What Would Kevin Do?]

A. Health Slater seemed to know. I'm sure Danielson knew, too.
B. Very possible - he wasn't thinking. Apparently Justin Roberts knew nothing about it beforehand.

Although Cena could have told Slater when he started it too... Not saying that's the case, not trying to make up excuses for Danielson, but think about it... Cena is a wrestler, who could tell Slater "don't do it." Roberts may not have known either.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Either way, still a stupid reason to fire someone, especially since you know damn well if a hire up did it, it'd be okay.

[Providence Peep]

Although Cena could have told Slater when he started it too... Not saying that's the case, not trying to make up excuses for Danielson, but think about it... Cena is a wrestler, who could tell Slater "don't do it." Roberts may not have known either.

Possibly. But shit on WWE if they didn't tell Danielson about the rule and then fired him for not knowing about it! I think Danielson probably knew about it and just wasn't thinking.

[TazFTW86]

all this talk about chokin roberts, i just had to do it, lol

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[TazFTW86]

now thats a legit choke!

[Savio]

Bryan Danielson does come across like he feels he is entitled to a lot things. He probably has a bad attitude backstage.

[XCaliber]

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LMAO

[TazFTW86]

I DO NOT believe it is real, still. It doesnt make sense. I still say its a work.
Im sure its just ppl making up excuses.
Still its fun to see people comment on it. Angle is working to make ppl pissd off.

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who's this jabroni?? Ryan Clark's nephew??

[Xero]

I'm going to let time pass, but if he's legitimately fired, and it's over the choke, I feel that it's one of the "last straws" for me.

I'm not saying I'll stop watching WWE, because I won't, but I think I'm going to make more of an effort to watch more non-WWE and TNA wrestling. This angle really reminded me of one of the largest reasons why I love wrestling, the not over the top but still brutal violence. And that is clearly not in WWE's near future.

[Providence Peep]

So to recap, it seems Danielson was legitly fired for choking Justin Roberts with his tie. Either Danielson did not know he couldn't do this, which I find hard to believe, or he just wasn't thinking. To make matters worse, Mattel complained about the incident and the WWE had to respond accordingly. Roberts did not know beforehand that he was going to be choked??

[CSL]

I would guess not.

[Providence Peep]

Was the choke legit? Was Roberts injured?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Bryan Danielson does come across like he feels he is entitled to a lot things. He probably has a bad attitude backstage.

Most reports are saying the exact opposite. Humble, well liked backstage, requested to go to FCW to improve, etc.

[TazFTW86]

first things u see on WWE website is Big Show choking CM Punk...but releases Bryan Danielson for choking some1 ese a week ago...lol wtf??

http://www.wwe.com/

[Xero]

Was the choke legit? Was Roberts injured?

Realistically, we don't know. All we can guess is that WWE didn't know Danielson was going to do it.

[TazFTW86]

So to recap, it seems Danielson was legitly fired for choking Justin Roberts with his tie. Either Danielson did not know he couldn't do this, which I find hard to believe, or he just wasn't thinking. To make matters worse, Mattel complained about the incident and the WWE had to respond accordingly. Roberts did not know beforehand that he was going to be choked??

why would mattel complain about it?

[Xero]

I'd love to hear Michaels' take on this, assuming it's legit.

[addy2hotty]

What gets me is that the reports immediately following Raw was that Vince and Steph were very happy about the way it all went.

Internet reporting is shit, I know, but surely the rumblings of discontent regarding the breaking of the 'choking rules' (heh heh) would have been there. Then there's the point about it being shown at all by the producers.

Also with Danielson at FCW on Wednesday, it would seem that this all must have happened since then as why risk having him do a similar thing in a similar angle there - televised or not, it was always going to show up that he was there.

All I know is, that I've not been this tuned in to latest developments about news on a living wrestler, probably ever.

[Providence Peep]

Realistically, we don't know. All we can guess is that WWE didn't know Danielson was going to do it.

I just can't figure out why Danielson would do it. He had to have known about the rule against it!

[Xero]

What gets me is that the reports immediately following Raw was that Vince and Steph were very happy about the way it all went.

Internet reporting is shit, I know, but surely the rumblings of discontent regarding the breaking of the 'choking rules' (heh heh) would have been there. Then there's the point about it being shown at all by the producers.

Also with Danielson at FCW on Wednesday, it would seem that this all must have happened since then as why risk having him do a similar thing in a similar angle there - televised or not, it was always going to show up that he was there.

All I know is, that I've not been this tuned in to latest developments about news on a living wrestler, probably ever.

Yeah, that's the biggest thing here. He worked the FCW tapings. So outside sources influencing the decision seem likely.

Is FCW a completely separate entity from WWE in that they have their own contracts in addition to the WWE contracts? Or is it all WWE contracted wrestlers?

[Providence Peep]

Yeah, that's the biggest thing here. He worked the FCW tapings. So outside sources influencing the decision seem likely.

Hence, Mattel's involvement

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>If they really, really want Danielson to be a part of this stable - I hope they just drag this out and have Barrett caution that another attack will come, keep everybody in suspense.

The July PPV is over a month away, let them (including a freshly rehired Danielson) show up then and get Barrett the belt.

Everybody will know the reason for the delay was because Bryan was canned in real life, but they can play it off in kayfabe that they were just "biding their time".

I can't wait to see what happens on Raw now, and how they treat this.</font>

[CSL]

I just can't figure out why Danielson would do it. He had to have known about the rule against it!

Because it's very very common, it's a good shot for facials, it's a heel thing to do, it can (usually) be done without any injury or repercussion. I doubt there's been a mass run in in the history of wrestling without a heel choking somebody. I'd guess the adrenaline got the best of him if he did know chokes were banned.

[Providence Peep]

The choking of Justin Roberts *and* the spitting on John Cena were BOTH edited from the replays.

[Providence Peep]

I'd guess the adrenaline got the best of him if he did know chokes were banned.

Whoops!

[addy2hotty]

I refuse to believe that spitting on Cena was not agreed between them beforehand.

[CSL]

Even it wasn't, I highly doubt Cena would have had much of a problem with it.

[Xero]

Vince, on the other hand....