Street Fighter X Tekken/Tekken X Street Fighter

[Fignuts]

Why the fuck can't I get out of wakeup without getting hit? Frustrating.

[Kalyx triaD]

I swear there's some kind of neutral period where no directions register. Or something. But it is maddening.

[Blitz]

Might get back in the lab with this after last night. Poison and Law are fun, but I really wanna make Guy/Elena work. Also wanna take a closer look at Lars and Christie.

[Kalyx triaD]

Lars is hype. Christie is mixup happy.

[Blitz]

I had started working with Lars before my hiatus, but he wasn't doing a ton for me. Still, now that I have Guy's alt costume, I kinda need to have him (with his Geki alt) just for Team Super Ninja Badasses.

Took Guy and Law online for a spell today and did alright.

[Kalyx triaD]

Lars is the latest character I picked up and I love the guy. I don't use his dodge as much as I should, though. Been eating fireballs.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's going down. Kalyx and Blitz right now.

[Blitz]

A worthy series. Fuck Nina. Need to go back to her.

[Kalyx triaD]

I love Nina, but I need more ways to pressure people. Christie and Lei are getting better.

[Kalyx triaD]

RANK C!!1

[Kalyx triaD]

Two ragequitters in a row. Welcome to C grade, eh?

[Blitz]

Just faced an 11K Guile/Ryu with Guy/Law. We had one match where he took a round, I took a round, and then he took the final pretty decisively. I go to find a ranked match again and I end up with him. Goes the same way, he take a round, I takes a round. Last round, he knocks both my characters down to about half health and decides to taunt me with Ryu. "Get serious". If there's one thing that makes me salty, it's taunting when there's about 10k BP between two players.

So I did and took the match. :heart: tag combo to Junkyard Soul. Had to resist messaging him to say "I guess I got serious..."

[Kalyx triaD]

Probably play some today if I don't head up town.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's going down; RoXer and Drakul with myself getting at it.

[RoXer]

I'm surprised I'm even online much less in the mood to play

[RoXer]

First match against Kalyx was a doozy. Became too predictable waking up with cannon spikes with Cammy. Also didn't really want to use Akuma's 2nd ultra in 3rd round but thought i could ht it but didn't.

Dunno who else I can be besides those 2. I'll try to mix it up to keep it interesting and still be competitive

[Kalyx triaD]

Law doesn't scratch your Fei Long itch?

[Kalyx triaD]

And holy fuck at you catching me with a few Demons.

[RoXer]

Yeah but I can't remember a thing about him

[Kalyx triaD]

I promise my Lei and Asuka is better than that.

[RoXer]

OHHHH RAGEQUIT

Hey everyone, Kalyx is a ragequitter

[RoXer]

I promise my Lei and Asuka is better than that.

Missed perfecting you by like a sliver I guess

[Kalyx triaD]

Ragequit my ass, I said that my last match. I will fuck you up.

[Blitz]

Why y'all gotta play when I'm at Christmas dinner

[Drakul]

I had a good time. I hadn't played in months and playing against Kalyx & RoXer was my first time fighting anyone, human or AI since them. Plus it was the end of Christmas day so I was pretty tired.
Most of it came back to me pretty quickly but there were situations which I couldn't remember what I did there.
I'm not a fan of the way the connection occasionally starts a grab animation from my side, only to correct itself and show me suddenly getting a spiral arrow to the shins.

It was a close call in the Kalyx Vs Me match. Getting my tag ultra in when one more punch from Sakura would have been it.

Noticing purple and black is a popular colour combo.

[Kalyx triaD]

Those colors are trademark Kalyx. RoXer's just biting my flow.

[Drakul]

I like my red/black/yellow colour combos.

[Kalyx triaD]

Have you given thought to your Gem settings since you started playing again?

[Drakul]

Not really. I found a set that I can trigger through my playstyle without having to actually try to trigger them. Plus they boost the stats I focus on most.

[Kalyx triaD]

That's the best kind of loadout.

[RoXer]

Made that at the time when Purple was the only neat looking color. I may edit them if I decide to start playing this again now that the colors are all out (a year later)

[Kalyx triaD]

Some sluggish matches with Figgy today, but good ones.

I'm trying to make Lei's drunken style work, and all of his styles really. But they can all be stuffed pretty easy.

Christie's basically a bitch now, almost on Nina's level of 'don't let her get in'.

I guess Jin's in his 'complete ass' part of my cycle with him. This means sometime this week I'll be inexplicably amazing with him.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, Lei's stances leave him wide open since he can't block.

You playing Jin is a lot like me playing King. We both seem to have fun with them, but god damn do you ever have to work to use them effectively.

Chun-Li is getting there. Dunno who I'm going to pair her with yet.

Guess I should have picked some characters I'm actually good with for those first two matches.

[Kalyx triaD]

Lei can block in his stances but they bring him out of stance, which is very gay.

I should have gave warning that I was about to leave, not a fan of wasting final matches on 'lol picks' or practice runs. After some Halo 4 I may be on later tonight, though.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Blitz]

I am fairly terrible with doing jab confirms into boost combos. Need to work on that.

[Kalyx triaD]

Anybody wanna put on the suit? I'm on as you read this. If not, you read it late. Losers.

[Drakul]

I was seriously in DOA5 mode when we played. I was pressing A out of habit, trying to block and had to remind myself there were multiple punch and kick buttons. I couldn't even remember how to tag out for the first 5 minutes.

I can't remember which match it was but one of the ones you won was pretty jammy. I was a fraction of a second from finishing an input I think could have won it for me and you got there just a hair quicker than me. That was an "Ah, crap!" moment.

I was thinking of suggesting we formed some kind of Super Team. Your speed and my strength.

[Kalyx triaD]

Just so we're clear, lag spikes happen to pretty much everyone. lol

I had some team games today and had to play with a dick who hogged the meter and tagged himself in at bullshit moments.

[Drakul]

I wasn't referring to lag. You just cleanly got in a split second before I did in one match. Any other match was clearly leaning one way or another but that one close match was right down to the last second, which doesn't happen often.

I never team up with anyone I don't know. If I'm teaming with someone, they have to be on my friend list. Mostly to avoid what happened to you. Plus, it's easier for me to think about what I should do if I know what to expect when my partners in.

I'm not complaining but I still wish there were a few more guys of my style. Technique and combos aren't my thing which is why I never took to King. King is "Kurt Angle" when I want to be "Big Show". I really want to just get right into the fight and throw someone around, you may have noticed. There is a lot of choice for me compared to most other games but one or two more would be cool.

Poison is the only non-grappler I can use and she's hardly anything for me to brag about, right now.

[Kalyx triaD]

Mardok's the only other big guy. How do you feel about him? And Abel grapples a bit.

[Drakul]

I think I played as him 4 times. Not enough for a definite yes or no.

Abel is someone I could maybe use passably if there was no pressure in the fight. Like, if I was fighting my brother-in-law or something. If it's guys from TPWW then I've no real chance for trying out because you guys come at me fast and hard. That's why I'm tempted to pick Zangief & Co. a lot because I know I have them down.

If we had a light hearted session of just trying out different guys we don't usually pick or techniques we don't usually use, then maybe I could broaden my horizons a bit. More a lively sparring session than the usual full on sessions.

[Kalyx triaD]

Ya know you can experiment in lobbies. It's not a big deal just trying out characters in live play. Test drive him in training mode and take them online for non-ranked battles. No fuss.

[Fignuts]

I think I played as him 4 times. Not enough for a definite yes or no.

Abel is someone I could maybe use passably if there was no pressure in the fight. Like, if I was fighting my brother-in-law or something. If it's guys from TPWW then I've no real chance for trying out because you guys come at me fast and hard. That's why I'm tempted to pick Zangief & Co. a lot because I know I have them down.

If we had a light hearted session of just trying out different guys we don't usually pick or techniques we don't usually use, then maybe I could broaden my horizons a bit. More a lively sparring session than the usual full on sessions.


Whats great about able though is that it's really easy to get out of that pressure by using his roll. It's easy to set your own pace with him. I'm not as good with him in this as I amin SF4, but I still use him.

Plus, his costumes are fucking sick.

[Fignuts]

Also, as far as Marduk goes, he's a bit of a stinker. He's got a couple good, long reaching normals, but besides that, he's not very good.

His takedown special has very little reach. His air grab is too slow to be a reliable anti-air, and the timing for comboing into it is very tight.

When the game came out, I caught tons of people with the spinning backfist followed by the northern lights suplex, but everyone is pretty wise to it now.

I still like to use him just because his moveset looks cool, but it's an uphill battle with him.

Been messing with bryan in training. Need to look more at Jack as well.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm probably gonna pick up King. I want a throwy guy.

[Kalyx triaD]

Picking up King.

[Kalyx triaD]

Oh yeah King is in my stable. Many of his normals are special cancelable, even into his Jaguar Step (which has all the mixup potential I value). He's good for damage, and his throws should serve me well. First matches with him went better than Lars did at my start, so I see great things ahead.

[Fignuts]

You wanna throw down?

[Drakul]

Just signed in to Live to join in but I see I missed it.

[Drakul]

My first time in Ranked since I don't know when. The first guys team is Ryu & Kazuya and, before the first round even finished, he rage quits because I'm beating him. Nice.

[Kalyx triaD]

That's the business.

Sorry I vanished, went Netflixing and had a sudden sleep spell.

[Drakul]

Sort of wishing I could send videos over Live just to send this to quitters.

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I know it's dumb but, still.

I just had the one ranked after that and won but it was pretty neck and neck. I think because all the characters in the fight were from SF so there was none of that Tekken ridiculous combo length/damage crap.

[Drakul]

Also, the colour options in the customisation menu are far too light. Wanted to give Poison a "hot pink" outfit and the best I can get is a vaguely pinky beige. Anything else looks closer to purple.

Same problem with yellow. No really good yellow. It looks highly diluted.

[Drakul]

An RGB wheel like the WWE games would have solved this. All the colour packs were free so why even make them DLC and limited to preset colours?

Would have been cool if they released patterns like polka dots or different coloured tartans.

[Kalyx triaD]

There's a couple of ways SFxT could have handled the colors better. Very stupid what they went with. I don't think patterns are necessary, though. There's a such thing as too much freedom.

[Drakul]

I was thinking the patterns would be preset, like the colours. I thought they idea was for colours to be paid DLC. Maybe that was the original plan but they backed out and thought even they weren't THAT insane to expect people to pay for a colour.

Speaking of Poisons colours. Just realised today that her lipstick colour (skin 2) also changed her nail colour.

[Kalyx triaD]

Gotta match, honey.

[Drakul]

You know it.

Why didn't they give her eye shadow? If she's supposed to have this vaguely slutty/trashy theme to her.

[Fignuts]

Kalyx, patterns would have been awesome.

[Kalyx triaD]

I think they succeeded regardless.

[Kalyx triaD]

Kalyx, patterns would have been awesome.

Shut up.

[Drakul]

http://piq.codeus.net/static/media/userpics/piq_25442_400x400.png

[Kalyx triaD]

Okay.

[Drakul]

Leaked Zangief Alt Attire for Tekken X Street Fighter :shifty:

Actually, I remember reading that TxSF would keep DLC to a minimum and things like outfits would be unlockables.

[Kalyx triaD]

That's Harada's stance, but where'd you read that in any case?

[Drakul]

It was months ago. It was either Eventhubs or Kotaku.

[Kalyx triaD]

Then I must have read it. News is slow on the TFxS front. Sometimes I thing it'll be a next-gen fighter if news doesn't come by next E3.

[Drakul]

Probably will be. Maybe a launch game for one or both consoles.

[Drakul]

Anyone for a lobby?

[Kalyx triaD]

Halo 4 for now. Later we brawl.

[Fignuts]

I would love Marvel vs Capcom if it used this engine. Piedream, though.

Also, where the fuck is my metallic gold color already. And Can we please get a real white instead of light grey?

[Fignuts]

And is anyone down to fight right now? Want to play, but not randoms.

[Drakul]

I'd play but I've a busy morning I should actually be getting on with right now.

The colours are far too pale and "not quite right". Yellow is barely yellow at all. it's more of a creamish colour.
I thought I read here or something tht we had all the colours by now.

[Fignuts]

We better fucking not.

[Drakul]

It was someone who hacked the disc and got all the DLC before it was released. They had X number of colours and then said "yeah, we have X colours now. That's the lot."

[Drakul]

There is supposed to be 56 colours. If you count them up next time you're on and it doesn't total that, then we have more coming.

[Kalyx triaD]

Ken changes in V.2013 are great. Cammy got some nerfs but the return of her Hooligan dive kick and powered up air throw should make things interesting.

There's a video series covering every character, I'll post the latest ones later.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Blitz]

Needs more Guy.

[Kalyx triaD]

The rest of the characters will come.

[Fignuts]

Love that Julia has a wall bounce now, and thank fuck for the king buffs.

[Drakul]

Totally expecting every single character I use to become utterly worthless because everyone else was crying that they were "too strong" or have "too much health". Just like every single update ever.

[Kalyx triaD]

Not so sure of that.

[Fignuts]

Totally expecting every single character I use to become utterly worthless because everyone else was crying that they were "too strong" or have "too much health". Just like every single update ever.

Hugo will probably get a nerf or two, but I dunno about Zangief.

[Fignuts]

Also, I'm on if anyone wants to play.

[Drakul]

If Poison is improved, that might go unnoticed but if any of the big guys is improved, their will be an outcry about it. People complain about big guys too much before they get buffed up. Having a big guy get stronger or have more heaolth or generally be betteer, always causes people to complain to Capcom about it.

They are totally fine when Ryu or some other overused character is improved, though. Even if it's totally unreasonable.

I have a very negative view on things.

[Kalyx triaD]

Had to get off for a bit. I'll try to be on tonight.

[Kalyx triaD]

If Poison is improved, that might go unnoticed but if any of the big guys is improved, their will be an outcry about it. People complain about big guys too much before they get buffed up. Having a big guy get stronger or have more heaolth or generally be betteer, always causes people to complain to Capcom about it.

They are totally fine when Ryu or some other overused character is improved, though. Even if it's totally unreasonable.

I have a very negative view on things.

This is just isn't what's actually going on right now. Calm down. I frequent Eventubs and SRK (on occasion), the big guys are not a problem right now.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's going down...

[Kalyx triaD]

Sometimes I swear I don't know how to move in this fucking game.

[Kalyx triaD]

Way too much bullshit that last match. Entire inputs not registering or different moves coming altogether. When I didn't get a Cannon Spike and instead got a fucking punch I just bailed before I smash the fucking entertainment center.

Apologies.

[Drakul]

Yeah, I had an issue with inputs. You remember when I tagged Poison out because she had 5% health and then tagged her right back in again only to get KO'd immediately? I accidently hit LP as I hit MP at the same time which isn't tag, yet it tagged anyway. Tag for me is MP + MK.

Happens offline too in training with Zangief. I tried doing crouch LP > crouch LP > FP Lariat. Instead, the lariat always came out as standing LP.

[Kalyx triaD]

I do recall that bad tag.

[Drakul]

I know I'm not a master of strategy, but even I wouldn't tag out someone who was critical, only to tag them back in instantly.

The game thought LP was MK, for some reason.

[Drakul]

I counted the colours in the customisation menu and, Fignuts, we have every single colour. 56. :(.

[Kalyx triaD]

I can't shake my shame of the last match from me and Figgy's session. I'm offering a special series between me and him, oldschool TPWW SF4 tourny rules. Best of seven. Like the tourny I will analyze each match (made easier with the replay).

Fig doesn't have to accept, but I need to reclaim my honor and finish a set properly.

[Fignuts]

Yeah sure. I'll be on tonight.

[Kalyx triaD]

Cool. I'm on now running ranked. Been grinding BP pretty good for a few days now.

[Kalyx triaD]

Training hardcore.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Drakul]

Just watched the Zangief video and I knew they were going to knock him down. So, now, in this game full off characters that zip around like Sonic, Zangief crawls towards them. His original speed was fine. He wasn't fast but he moved just fast enough to actually be useable.

Then the video said "We made this move weaker...and this move...and this move has less priority." Because we all know how insanely easy it is to play and win as Zangief, right? He totally needed to be less good.

Improving the SPD strength is like wrecking someones car with a huge sledgehammer and saying "Hey, at least I changed your tires. That's an important part of the car!". Yeah, but now my car barely functions. What good are new tires if my car can hardly move?

[Blitz]

Gief is a grappler. He should be slower. Besides, with distance on some of his normals and the quickness of Banishing Fist, he can still get in alright.

[Drakul]

I know he should be slow but his speed was spot on before the 2013 update. Banishing fist may be quick but pretty much every move cancels it.

I can handle moves being weaker, really. It just gives me more time to throw people around. It's the the slowing down I don't like. It can already be tricky catching people but now they feel the need to make it even trickier.

Either slow him down and make the pay off better when I do catch someone by making me do more damage or keep his speed the same as pre-update and have me do less damage. Either of those, I'd be fine with.

[Kalyx triaD]

Gief was made slow because his burning hand and certain normals were very fucking good. Either they nerf burning hand and his normals or they adjust his walk speed and touch one normal. Looks like a good deal.

And you set up his gems a certain way, you can buff his walk speed anyway, and make his SPD even more powerful.

Cammy got the nerf stick and I'm already thinking of ways around it.

[Kalyx triaD]

Some throwback news, but I may pick up Chun Li again.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

This is gonna be a hardcore game. Lot's more toe-to-toe than before, and jumping is a death sentence.

I wanna see Jin's changes now.

[Blitz]

Really like Elena's changes. She'll be back in my deck.

[Boomer]

Watching the SoCal tourney stuff sold me on 2013.

[Kalyx triaD]

Didn't see any of that but I'm good to go anyway.

[Kalyx triaD]

Jin is now more dangerous than my Ken, though Ken is making strides. I hope Asuka can make a similar upgrade so I can rock my Tekken Tag 2 team properly. Kazama Kombos for all!

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

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[Blitz]

Guy and Law buffs <3

[Kalyx triaD]

Update's out. New colors as well. Time to train.

[Drakul]

I'm at a relatives for a few days with just my Wii U for entertainment. No SFxT. Am I missing anything?

I have been playing SFII Turbo on a 50 inch HD tv, though. So that's fun.

[Drakul]

I'm at a relatives for a few days with just my Wii U for entertainment. No SFxT. Am I missing anything?

I have been playing SFII Turbo on a 50 inch HD tv, though. So that's fun.

[Kalyx triaD]

Just the new update.

[Kalyx triaD]

- Fucking love this update.
- Christie is much better with an anti-air and fireball dodges.
- Got to C+, and now have more BP than all of you. It's been a long hard road full of salt and rage.
- I can't wait to use Pandora now.
- Was in a lobby that streamed on TwitchTV. It was fun.
- Let's rock guys!

[Blitz]

Would be playing now if XBL hadn't gone down like a $3 hooker.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah I got a few DCs that took points away from me. Also spoiled my Halo 4 time. Fuck.

[Kalyx triaD]

KILL KHUNTRY

[Fignuts]

"hey fignuts, this is your brain. I noticed that Kalyn has jumped at you about 8 gazillion times. You're playing as Ryu, so why don't you shoryuken him out of the air?"

"ha! Shows what you know. Best way to combat jumpers is to stand there and block and let them throw mix ups all day.

[Kalyx triaD]

My brain similarly shuts off against jumps with Ken of all people.

I thought my Cammy would be a train wreck without her jump cancel shenanigans but she seems to be trucking along.

Our team match with Vega/Jin was hilarious in that you were pulling the heavy load while I literally came in just to punch punch punch super and leave.

[Fignuts]

Ugh Vegas cross art can't hit for shit.

I need to use juri more.

[Fignuts]

Also, king is a very bad match for Dudley. And ogre. And any character played by anyone with skill.

Yet hitting that shining wizard makes it all worth it.

[Blitz]

Man, when I read the patch notes, I didn't really register how hard they nerfed meter gain. Like being a starving kid in Somalia compared to before.

[Kalyx triaD]

Epic losing streak.

[Boomer]

Got the character pack since it was finally on sale for a little bit. Unfortunately, since I'm commuting for work, I'm in town with my 360 for only a few days a week, so I won't beable to play much right now. But I'd like to get in with you guys.

Too bad Bison continues to underwhelm me in this game. His stomp seems slow and terrible.

[Kalyx triaD]

Bison has nice pokes with his kicks. His stomp is better used to set up the flying punch thing. I seen you online but didn't wanna bother you since you were setting things up.

[Boomer]

The tracking on it is terrible, and it's slow to get to the target. I definitely notice a difference between him in this and him in SSFIV (haven't played 2012). I am quite surprised they nerfed him more than they buffed him, according to the change video. His pokes will always be good, but I'm not sure charge characters have any advantage in this game.

[Kalyx triaD]

Vega, Blanka, and Guile have all managed to piss me the fuck off. Charge characters are very well off.

[Boomer]

I dunno, SRK forum for him seems more high than low on him. I'll just have to play him way differently than I have before if I want to keep using him.

And any Lei skill that I had from Tekken is lost on this version. I didn't spend a ton of time with him or anything, but that's not a good starting point for me in this game. I've basically forgotten anything I learned from the small amount of time I played it when it came out, so I just need to start fresh.

[Kalyx triaD]

Lei can be daunting but he's fun. I'm gonna work him up after I level up my new main team, Jin/Christie.

[Blitz]

Yeah what charge characters do fucking well in this game.

Need to get out of my bad rolling habit now that they're punishable.

[Kalyx triaD]

Wake-up game is hardcore now.

[Fignuts]

I use vega and blanks. I haven't even really explored any combos with them yet, and I still win more than I lose. If I take them into training they could get really lethal.

[Boomer]

I think Blanka and Vega are definitely the best of the chargers. Blanka's mix-up game is so damn good.

[Blitz]

Even shitty Blankas rip me apart. Good ones, forget it.

I'm no good against charge character in general but Blanka seems to be the worst.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

Asuka leveled up.

[Fignuts]

Was gonna say did asuka have that anti air before the patch, cause your asuka was kinda free for jump ins before the patch, and now she's a lot deadlier.

Still making dumb mistakes but far less tonight than previous sessions, as evidenced by a few victories over khuntry. Though he made a few head scratchers as well.

The best though was Kalyx using pandora for no apparent reason several times lol.

Still don't know who my mains are, though its obviously between Ryu, heihachi, Julia, and juri. Wish Julia would have gotten a solid anti air with the patch, considering they nerfed her quite a bit.

I might be done with king. He just doesn't have tools to compete with a lot of characters.

I think the three of us are really getting on an even level here, and our matches are really intense

[Fignuts]

Feel like my iq drops when I'm two rounds up, because I pretty much just give my opponent the next two rounds on a silver platter before coming to my senses for the final round

[#BROKEN Hasney]

STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR SHITTY 10TH RATE FIGHTER. WE HAVE REAL NEWS TO DISCUSS.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Also, I will try this ONCE MORE if the PC version gets the 2013 patch ever.

[Fignuts]

You're just jealous of our rad skills. Shut uppa you face.

[Kalyx triaD]

Asuke got two AA options from the patch. It is an immense help. I wonder if her air grab thing is jump attack invincible, at least on the EX version. I'll experiment that.

I used Pandora the first time because I thought it was a sure thing. The kick didn't connect! The second time HP connect but the super whiffed hard. I'm trying to whip out Pandora for overkill finishes.

Didn't try Jin's crouch dash cancels. At all. I need to get that back in my system.

Asuka, Ken, and Jin all have counter-hit crumble stun dealers, I need to throw that in there. I did that a lot when the game launched but just stopped. My mind is silly like that.

[Fignuts]

Iwas hitting wall bounce>pandora>Julia's super in training, though I never broke it out in a fight.

Now though, Julia's super has been given more frames on start up so I dunno if it will even work.

[Kalyx triaD]

Off a wall bounce you should confirm from a low hit, catch them at the last second. I rather do it from ground bounces, though.

[Kalyx triaD]

Had an awesome tonight with Khuntry offline and on a TV at a friend's house that didn't have input lag. The one I'm usually on plays like SF4/MvC3's online, but offline. It's something you don't notice until you play on a TV that doesn't have bullshit 3D bells and whistles that make it shit for fighters and Rock Band.

And the difference is night and day, and my series with Khuntry wasn't as one sided. Asuka and Lei in particular were marvelous tonight, hitting set-ups and pokes I always felt should work but never quite landed - until I played on a TV with 1:1 control. Since my roomy got the 3D TV, fighting game control was a chore and Rock Band was pretty much never the same. FPS games, with their inherent lag-hiding gameplay, fares well.

Now this isn't some long winded excuse on my performance online, which is 'fine' overall, but I wish to death I didn't have to deal with this TV. It's enough dealing with connection spikes online without the TV's input lag.

That said, you may see less of me online with this game in order to keep my muscle memory on point. Gonna try and get some online games on the other TV, especially matches with Fignuts.

[Drakul]

Capcom are holding a poll (https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/StreetFighter) to find your top 5 SF characters for future products. So...everyone will be picking Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Shin Akuma and Evil Ryu, then?

I went with (order doesn't matter):
Zangief
Sodom
Hakan
Poison
Hugo

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

Lei is now more dangerous than Nina in my stable. Pretty crazy shift. Lars is also getting better.

[Drakul]

I've not played this in weeks. I'd like to sit down for a lobby but I've not got gold right now :(.

I was talking to someone that doesn't play fighting games the other day about fighting games and it seems she didn't know that they had simplified them with the easy gems or MvC3s easy options for moves. Seems a bit weird that the people that stuff is there for probably don't know it exists.

[Kalyx triaD]

That's a good observation, with more than a few explanations.

Long story short; fuck the FGC.

[Drakul]

We're going to give SFxT a spin at somepoint so we'll see how useful the assist gems really are.

I want to ask about the FGC but I get the feeling I will know the story already.

[Kalyx triaD]

Just remember Assist Gems are training wheels that are meant to be removed after a while.

[Drakul]

Yeah, I know. The person that'll use them is not at all used to fighting games, is very competitive and doesn't really like to lose. It might get messy.

[Drakul]

They love Ocarina of Time, though, so it's fine.

[Kalyx triaD]

People who hate losing, in my opinion, shouldn't play fighting games. They may not stay long enough to learn.

[Drakul]

True but it's just messing around. Nothing competitive. You could look at it as a way of learning to be ok with losing.

[Drakul]

That's why I chose SFxT as well. So we can fight as a team and, that way, if I win the match, it's team work, if she wins the match she's getting better and if we lose we can laugh it off.

Thinking ahead.

[Boomer]

If I were home I'd be practicing. Watched streams of endless battle for at least 10 hours over the weekend in the background. Such a fun game to watch now.

[Fignuts]

No idea how to deal with pressure.

Such a failure. Gonna walk in front of bus.

[Kalyx triaD]

Alpha Counter. EX escapes. I dunno.

[Kalyx triaD]

THIS close to picking Chun Li to work on her.

[Fignuts]

That uses a block of meter, so can't do it everytime. No idea when to counter attack anything.

All I've got going for me is heihachi, but honestly, he's just a bit less cheesier than rolento, so I can't even be proud of those wins.

So mad at myself right now. Can't do anything right.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well at least your TV doesn't delay your inputs by a hundred years. I have to commit to actions much earlier than God should allow.

[Kalyx triaD]

New TV installed. No more input lag. 100% me. Let's go.

[Drakul]

I've no gold but I got an email from Xbox saying this weekend is a free weekend so I'm all for SFxT.

Contemplated "fightin' talk", decided not to.

[Kalyx triaD]

I see.

[Drakul]

Intending to pull Poison up to Zangief level.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/205/1/6/poison2_by_mariedoll-d58ft30.jpg

[Fignuts]

I need to know how dedicated a cosplay that is, so that I know how to feel about that pic.

[Kalyx triaD]

Safe to say it's mostly chicks to enjoy away.

[Drakul]

I know Fignuts is likely kidding with his post but I've seen a lot of people say that stuff when they see a photo or video of someone they aren't 100% sure the gender of. Bugs me a little. They've basically just admitted to finding the pic or video hot. What it basically says is "This person is sexy to me. Can I express that openly or should I force myself to be grossed out and publicly express that instead?"

Tried SFxT for the first time since the update. Want to weep at how wothless Zangief now is. His walk speed is like playing in slow motion. That, combined with the way all the SPD strengths (L,M, H & EX) send Zangief varying distances away from the victim afterwards, means the SPD is something I could only really pull out once in a while against anyone half decent.
I did the lightest SPD so I was sent the least distance from the victim. Ryu was up and running away before I got anywhere near him after the first SPD. So, now, matches will boil down to chasing the opponent, slamming them, chasing them some more, slamming them, chasing them yet again etc. Before, it was a case of chasing them, grabbing then and never letting go.

I agree Zangief should be slow but with the fast pace of SFxT as a whole, his original speed was perfect. He was in no way super fast but he was fast enough to be able to eventually catch someone and keep pressure on them.

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[Kalyx triaD]

"So, now, matches will boil down to chasing the opponent, slamming them, chasing them some more, slamming them, chasing them yet again etc. Before, it was a case of chasing them, grabbing then and never letting go."

As a grappler should play like.

[Boomer]

Tons of Gief at the tounament level. He definitely got nerfed, but he's still really good. EX Green Hand ground bounce is hilarious.

[Fignuts]

Dunno drakul, if it was that easy for you to get in and hit another spd, then it's good that it was needed. That move does a ton of damage so it should be hard to hit.

[Drakul]

"So, now, matches will boil down to chasing the opponent, slamming them, chasing them some more, slamming them, chasing them yet again etc. Before, it was a case of chasing them, grabbing then and never letting go."

As a grappler should play like.


Dunno drakul, if it was that easy for you to get in and hit another spd, then it's good that it was needed. That move does a ton of damage so it should be hard to hit.

I can understand that I shouldn't be able to slam someone endlessly but I can't even really do anything at all after the SPD.
If I try the banishing fist right after, they still have a very good chance of getting away.
With the game being pretty zippy, Zangief now moving like an arthritic turtle and with people able to juggle me to the point of losing almost 40% of my health in a single Tekken combo, it seems pretty hopeless for me. I'm not being bitchy, I'm just looking at it and thinking it seems unwinnable against anyone with half a clue how to play against Zangief. :(

I couldn't do SPD endlessly before the update but at least I could stay close enough to actually attack them in some way.

[Kalyx triaD]

What you're complaining about is the 'neutral game', after certain events characters are in a position where no one has an obvious advantage and the metagame restarts. Asuka similarly has to re-approach after a combo. This can be amended by being creative and knowing who you're fighting.

[Drakul]

Rather than complain about it endlessly, I'll just say I don't like the speed change. I can take moves being weakened and hit boxes being adjusted but the speed change seemed to just be a step too far for me.

I wonder what makes them change that stuff. I know it's probably because "pro" players give feedback or the QA team give feedback but my paranoid, cynical side thinks it's because there are hoardes of Ryu/Kazuya players on a Capcom forum bitching endlessly about something and eventually get their way. No one very complains about the popular guys, it's always the big strong guys, I've noticed.

[Drakul]

Using this as motivation to really get to grips with Poison and, maybe, get her somewhere near SSFIV Zangief level one day. Tempted to have Zangief or Hugo as back up for her but also thinking I should be adventurous and try someone else out.

[Kalyx triaD]

Changes are made with overall balance in mind, not so much every single complaint from certain players. A widespread complaint was how effective grapplers (namely Gief and Hugo) were at the range game, which was absurd. Hugo already received a nerf way before the patch, but Gief still had unusual range priority on par with, say Cody - which is crazy. A lot of this was explained in the change videos pages back.

Ryu, Kazuya, and other 'top' characters got major nerfs possibly worse than Gief. Raven was hit hard, for instance.

[Kalyx triaD]

Sorry about my roommate's 'commentary'. Won't happen again.

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[Drakul]

He's no JR.

[Drakul]

I'd hate to have a room mate. Someone else sitting around my house...talking all the time. Drinking all the milk.

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't mind in general, but there's always something to do without - like bad commentary.

[Drakul]

I've not had "live" commentary since I was a kid and my friends and I played No Mercy and my little brother impersonated JR. He did a surprisingly good job of it, too.

I live in my own house (not a flat/apartment) and my brother stays with me. It's fine but I want my own space so I'm wanting to switch the house for a flat/apartment to myself. Or maybe a tiny bungalow.

I want to just focus on myself for a while. We've lived togethor since birth, obviously. We're even starting to resemble the classic "brothers" look of being total opposites physically and in personality. That's a danger sign, right there.

[Drakul]

I should probably have started that post with "Dear diary..."

[Kalyx triaD]

My older bro turned down living with me a year ago. He didn't agree with returning in Miami and it's one of the reasons I stay with a roomy now. He taught me how to play Street Fighter II. Manged to beat me in Street Fighter 4 last year somehow.

Keep your brother.

[Drakul]

25 years is a long time. It's complicated and I'd rather not go into things on a public website.

I beat my brother at SF 90%+ of the time but he very rarely plays it, so that's probably why. I focus on power, he focuses on speed.

[Kalyx triaD]

Teach him.

[Drakul]

He has no time and wouldn't admit to wanting help with it anyway.

[Kalyx triaD]

Fair enough.

[Kalyx triaD]

It is going down. Kalyx vs Fignuts.

[Kalyx triaD]

Some nice matches tonight. Gonna try and get some off-screen footage up.

[Fignuts]

Ugh ass kickings is more like it. Was being mad predictable.

[Kalyx triaD]

You said you were a bit rusty, right? And I'm pretty sharp since I've been tearing it up offline lately. Decent matches.

[Kalyx triaD]

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More later.

[Kalyx triaD]

Ranked Match with some random guy. I still have stuff from me and Figgy, but I think having material from a set where he isn't rusty would be better.

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This is the first of two matches I had with the guy. I may upload the second one.

[Fignuts]

You've still surpassed me regardless, but I definitely know I could do better.

[Fignuts]

Funny, because before I faced you, I beat 2 separate 10,000+bp guys with my rusty skills.

[Kalyx triaD]

Let's be honest guys fucking suck online. We both stopped being on Ranked like that, I'm sure our numbers would be impressive if we played regularly since launch.

[Fignuts]

You down to play right now?

[Blitz]

I would get in on this but I am a lil drunk right now so I am probably not the optimal opponent.

[Fignuts]

I've been drinking a bit too. It's more fun that way

[Kalyx triaD]

Gonna rock Halo 4 and I may be on later tonight.

[Kalyx triaD]

Me and Figgy going at it now. Action!

[Fignuts]

Did a little better but my god did I lose a ton of rounds that I should of bad clinched.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah lots of comebacks tonight. You move in for the kill and I do well when people are extra aggressive. You should probably stop jumping forever. I try to jump for cross-ups exclusively, of if I think I'll jump over a move.

[Boomer]

Making me want to play again. My Live subscription is out next month, and I'm on the fence about if I want to renew.

[Kalyx triaD]

Guess we gotta throw down before months end.

[Boomer]

I'm going to Baltimore on vacation until next Tuesday starting tomorrow, and I'm out of practice, but I will find a way to re-up the subscription if I need to. I really want to play with you guys, and I'm no good, but I spent way too much time in training mode and not enough time playing.

[Drakul]

Dunno if I should fork out and buy a months gold purely to play against you guys.

I've not played any fighter besides MK for a long long time. So I'd be rusty as hell at a game I never quite got on with in the first place.

[Kalyx triaD]

Weigh the pros and cons.

[Drakul]

I'll probably give the game a play later and see if I am up for it. Might actually prefer SCV.

[Boomer]

I've at least got Bing Rewards set up to accrue some points each day, but it takes over a month to get enough points to purchase a month of Gold. Regardless, I will find something. My subscription goes out on 08/04, and I probably want to figure something out before then. Skipped on a 39.99 eBay deal recently thinking I was just going to let it go, but I'm changing my tune I think. Just got PS Plus...was trying to justify that.

[Kalyx triaD]

I prefer SCV.

[Drakul]

I think SCV might be better than SFxT. If SC6 has equal or better character customisation, I'd be buying it on day one. I have bought pretty much all the customisation DLC. I couldn't get enough of it. I know I wasn't great online but I just enjoyed showing my characters off. I have a wishlist for SC6 but this isn't the place.

[Kalyx triaD]

Overall SC is my favorite fighting series, but right now I play SFxT more. I do love SCV, though. I have my own thoughts for a SoulCalibur 6 as well.

[Drakul]

Overall, I prefer Street Fighter. Even back in the SNES days, I'd play other fighting games, enjoy them but they never lived up to SFII. Save goes for pretty much every other console I could play SF on. I never played SF EX, though. I hear it's pretty bad but then I hear a few people say it's good and just underrated.

My ideas for SC6 all revolve around customisation. Asigning a stage/theme combo for each character would be cool, especially if you they had an Arcade Mode were you only fight creations. If that was ever put in, which I admit is unlikely, original themes and stages not used by the real characters would make it all the better.

[Kalyx triaD]

Most my ideas center on gameplay, with some riffing on customization.

[Drakul]

We've got all the bases covered, between us.

On the topic of SFxT, I think it's a shame that Bad Box Art Megaman was Megaman because, from what I've seen of him, he'd make for a cool original character.
If he was a dellusional loser who genuinely thought he was a super hero and thought he genuinely had powers, complete with a female partner who, despite being his assistant, actually acts more like his boss, he'd be pretty cool.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah the concept is actually kinda cool. He'd be like the Dan of the game, and the only original character of the 'Pandora universe'.

Instead Capcom decides to have fun at many, many fans expense.

[Drakul]

It would actually be a way to cool down anyone who is still in a rage about that. To have him show up in SF5 or whatever in a new costume and Ono to say "Surprise! He was never the real Megaman in the first place!"

If he were to be an original character, the ham voice acting would need to stay.

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't they ever sold him as the real mega man anyway. He is just some alternate MM in the Pandora universe. It was a silly troll but people getting in their emotions should chill lol

Honestly I find his design amusing.

[Fignuts]

I am with drakul on the sf4 preference. Just seems much more tactical, and that fits
My style a lot better.

[Drakul]

New DLC on the UK PSN store that gives you a 4th gem slot. Not sure if it's on the 360 as I've not checked.

[Kalyx triaD]

Ha.

[Boomer]

I got a live subscription for cheap, so I need to start practicing.

[Kalyx triaD]

Cool, me and Figgy could probably meet you tonight.

[Boomer]

Sorry, I actually just got back from B-More, so I didn't see your message. I will try and pull my stick and the game out tomorrow, but since I've been gone for a week, I probably have some errands I need to run. I had been running Bison/Law when I stopped, but I've probably forgotten a ton at this point.

[Fignuts]

Kalyx will eat you alive, but you could probably give me a good fight.

[Boomer]

Yeah I watched the video he posted. Besides being generally comfortable with Bison always, I was struggling to find any team synergy. Wanted to play Lei, but he's not really a good character to start with so I ditched the idea. I had gone through a good portion of the trials for every character just to practice timings, and I will need a refresher on that sorely.

[Kalyx triaD]

The trials were out of date since the 2013 patch dropped, they were not updated. Probably not what you wanna hear.

[Boomer]

Yeah I honestly figured that by some that didn't seem to work as intended, but I still appreciated the practice. I'm not good enough to 'go into the lab', so it's really my only option for giving me some general early ideas on characters.

[Boomer]

I learned a good bit from watching tournaments when I thought the FGC was backing the game more, but up to EVO I felt like everyone went to abandoning it again. Shame.

[Kalyx triaD]

There's still really good vids out there, and decent tutorials at Eventhubs.com.

And you can ask me for general stuff, just don't ask me what Guy should do after a tag in.

[Blitz]

And you can ask me for general stuff, just don't ask me what Guy should do after a tag in.
BUSHIN SENPUKYAKU~!

[Blitz]

...nah I dunno.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'll ask Khuntry, he's been running Guy more often lately. He's annoying.

Gonna pick up Steve, btw.

[Fignuts]

Been using Steve for a while. Very technical character with a lot of weaknesses. His strengths are very situational. Tough to use but also fun.

[Kalyx triaD]

I can do situational.

[Blitz]

I'll ask Khuntry, he's been running Guy more often lately. He's annoying.
I will annihilate his impostor Guy. There can be only one.

[Kalyx triaD]

...Ok...

[Fignuts]

I will annihilate his impostor Guy. There can be only one.

You should try playing the game sometime.

[Blitz]

Maybe when I'm done with Dynasty Warriors 8. More likely I'll go back to SFIV to prep for the next DLC.

[Kalyx triaD]

Doesn't drop til next year. Play this game instead. Do it.