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Lol
Apparently they were afraid he would blow out his acl stepping off the plane.
Aguakate
07-31-2011, 02:58 AM
Well, he IS Rich Harden...I'd leave him alone in Oakland...it's the only place where he seems to stay "somewhat" healthy.
I want to see the Cubs start a brawl tonight. Fuck Matt Holliday!
Skippord
07-31-2011, 04:25 AM
Matt Holliday would beat every Cub to death
Aguakate
07-31-2011, 05:02 AM
...except Zambrano!
Carlos Zambrano FTW!
Matt Holliday would beat every Cub to death
I guarantee Ryan Dempster will take care of Matt Holliday tonight.
Hardkore Kidd J
07-31-2011, 06:12 AM
I am a tiny bit worried for Cleveland though. According to what I heard, there could be something Medically wrong with Ubaldo right now. I read that the Yankees pulled out of the Trade 4 days ago when the Yankees asked Jimmenz for a Physical and the Rox refused the Yankees to get Ubaldo a physical. I think that was the main reason why he was pitching for the Rox at all last night. If he's really injured and there's something wrong with him. I am happy that we didn't trade for him.
Boomer
07-31-2011, 10:07 AM
Braves need a right-handed bat. Michael Bourn would be what we need if he wasn't a lefty.
Houston gets:
CF Jordan Schafer
LHP Brett Oberholtzer
RHP Paul Clemens
RHP Juan Abreu
Braves get:
CF Michael Bourn
Houston takes an injury prone CF (currently on the DL) and three pitchers not highly ranked in the Braves' system for a damn good CF and one of the fastest players in the league.
Boomer
07-31-2011, 10:12 AM
And some reports are saying the Braves are getting money too? Ok.
Evil Vito
07-31-2011, 10:38 AM
<font color=goldenrod>LOL rumor has it the Nationals offered up Drew Storen for Denard Span. Fucking retards.</font>
Boomer
07-31-2011, 11:16 AM
1. Constanza cf, 2. Prado lf, 3. Freeman 1b, 4. Uggla 2b, 5. Heyward rf, 6. Conrad 3b, 7. Gonz ss, 8. Boscan c, 9. Hanson
God I hope the Braves can survive this shit.
Boomer
07-31-2011, 11:17 AM
But Freeman and Uggla are probably battling it out for NL player of the month. Carrying the team, basically.
Triple Naitch
07-31-2011, 03:14 PM
Bush league move by Erick Aybar bunting to break Verlander's :nono:.
Evil Vito
07-31-2011, 03:27 PM
Bush league move by Erick Aybar bunting to break Verlander's :nono:.
What? No it isn't. It's a close game and nothing else was working.
Triple Naitch
07-31-2011, 03:30 PM
Bunting to break up a no hitter is terrible. It's just as bad as stealing when you're up by ten runs.
Evil Vito
07-31-2011, 03:38 PM
It's not even close to being the same thing. If the game is still in reach, all bets are off. I'd have my fastest player bunt too if my team couldn't get anything going offensively.
Innovator
07-31-2011, 03:59 PM
Can one of my teams do something? Throw a pie at least.
ClockShot
07-31-2011, 04:18 PM
Red Sox pass on Rich Harden only to go with Erik Bedard.
Guy's made of glass. Gets some sort of injury every season. Don't know what the scouts saw yesterday, but bad move IMO.
ClockShot
07-31-2011, 04:20 PM
Can one of my teams do something? Throw a pie at least.
Yeah, Cashman made it clear if no bonafide #1 starter went on the block, he wouldn't make a move. And since Soriano and Chavez returned, no need to grab a reliver or bench guy.
On the bright side, word going around is that Montero may be on his way up pretty damn soon if he didn't get traded today.
Hardkore Kidd J
07-31-2011, 04:34 PM
Yeah, Cashman made it clear if no bonafide #1 starter went on the block, he wouldn't make a move. And since Soriano and Chavez returned, no need to grab a reliver or bench guy.
On the bright side, word going around is that Montero may be on his way up pretty damn soon if he didn't get traded today.
Yeah, for me it's a Win -Win not only may Montero be on his way up but Banuelos and Betances are both promoted to Triple A. I think all 3 of them will be up late August/early September. Doesn't get much better then that.
Evil Vito
07-31-2011, 04:44 PM
<font color=goldenrod>lol god the Mets are the most quintessential mediocre .500 team ever. Blowing teams out of the water all week, only to turn around and look punchless in defeat.
.500 is still the goal. Inclined to think they fall a bit short just because I gotta assume Davis won't be back and Murphy is on a ridiculously hot stretch that might taper off. Still, way more fun to watch than last year's post-ASB Mets.</font>
Aguakate
07-31-2011, 06:02 PM
I am a tiny bit worried for Cleveland though. According to what I heard, there could be something Medically wrong with Ubaldo right now. I read that the Yankees pulled out of the Trade 4 days ago when the Yankees asked Jimmenz for a Physical and the Rox refused the Yankees to get Ubaldo a physical. I think that was the main reason why he was pitching for the Rox at all last night. If he's really injured and there's something wrong with him. I am happy that we didn't trade for him.
Dude gave up 4 runs last night in 1 inning before being pulled, so I'm not 100% sure he's ok. Again, it's strange that the Rockies would all of a sudden get this urge to trade him...
...I don't know. I hope this doesn't backfire on the Indians, just when they're becoming relevant again.
Triple Naitch
07-31-2011, 06:05 PM
Maybe it's because he was told minutes before warming up that he was about to be traded and had shit on his mind.
Aguakate
07-31-2011, 06:09 PM
I don't think so. If he would've gotten traded before the game, he wouldn't have pitched.
Talk about getting traded will most likely be the excuse most people bring up, so only time will tell.
Triple Naitch
07-31-2011, 06:23 PM
News broke he was gonna get traded like an hour before first pitch. He had to have gotten word of it.
ClockShot
07-31-2011, 07:34 PM
Braves hit the 10,000 losses mark today.
Skippord
07-31-2011, 09:32 PM
Ubaldo said that he knew he had been traded and didn't know why he was out pitching so he wasn't focused at all on the game and walked everyone.
Aguakate
07-31-2011, 10:51 PM
Yo, Kerry Wood just made a web gem lol.
Emperor Smeat
08-01-2011, 12:51 AM
:rofl: Tigers vs Angels highlights.
Sort of amazing how there wasn't a massive brawl is amazing especially with Ordonez taunting Weaver and both sides upset with each other and the umps.
Fucking love Weaver for throwing at dudes head. Guillen was a punk bitch and almost got his teammate killed.
Jim Hendry is the worst gm ever.
Innovator
08-01-2011, 10:27 AM
My respect for Weaver tripled after throwing at the guy. More pitchers need to grow a set.
This coming from a Yankee fan who rarely sees a pitcher do anything. ARod and Jeter get plunked by Red Sox pitchers all day and they never do anything. SOMEONE ACT LIKE WEAVER
Aguakate
08-01-2011, 01:10 PM
I can understand Magglio Ordonez, because he was perhaps seeing if the ball was fair or foul (I'm playing devil's advocate here)...
...now, Carlos Guillen's little taunt was TOO MUCH. He was looking at Weaver straight in the eye as he walked, did 2 little hops, and started to jog around the bases...
Innovator
08-01-2011, 02:25 PM
Clay Buchholz has a stress fracture in his lower back.
parkmania
08-01-2011, 05:23 PM
So, the Pirates "big" acquisitions are Derrek Lee - who has been in decline for the last 3 years, Ryan Ludwick - who desperately needed out of PETCO, and Jason Grilli - who is now on his 6th different team in an 11 year MLB career.
I know that it's a new thing for the Bucs to be buyers instead of sellers at the deadline, but if this is "big", then I'd hate to see "small".
Aguakate
08-01-2011, 05:36 PM
Clay Buchholz has a stress fracture in his lower back.
...that's why they got Bedard.
Mr. Pierre
08-01-2011, 06:47 PM
I don't think it was definite that Buchholz would be out the remainder of the season when the deal was made.
loopydate
08-01-2011, 07:24 PM
Bunting to break up a no hitter is terrible. It's just as bad as stealing when you're up by ten runs.
Oh god, not the "unwritten rules" debate. Seems like we do this every year.
Aguakate
08-01-2011, 08:43 PM
I don't think it was definite that Buchholz would be out the remainder of the season when the deal was made.
He was out and there was uncertainty.
Corndad
08-01-2011, 09:36 PM
So, the Pirates "big" acquisitions are Derrek Lee - who has been in decline for the last 3 years, Ryan Ludwick - who desperately needed out of PETCO, and Jason Grilli - who is now on his 6th different team in an 11 year MLB career.
I know that it's a new thing for the Bucs to be buyers instead of sellers at the deadline, but if this is "big", then I'd hate to see "small".
And Lee has 2 Homers in his first game tonight... lol
Aguakate
08-01-2011, 09:47 PM
If the Cubs are out of it, let's go Fighting Buccos!
Cubs are making a playoff run. Don't you get it? That's why they didn't trade Jeff Baker and Reed Johnson. They needed those guys for this playoff run.
Aguakate
08-01-2011, 10:05 PM
Oh, yeah...true dat, true dat...
...Carlos Pena's big bat will carry them to the Wild Card.
If Jeff Baker doesn't have to face right hand pitching, its on!
Aguakate
08-01-2011, 10:12 PM
Cubs won tonight, beat Pittsburgh...
...here they come!
McLegend
08-02-2011, 12:02 AM
Yeah Phillies
Evil Vito
08-02-2011, 12:05 AM
<font color=goldenrod>2 straight games now where the Mets rallied to tie it in the 9th in exciting fashion, only to immediately lose the next half inning.
Unreal. It seems like no matter what good things happen to them, they will always fall right back to .500</font>
Evil Vito
08-02-2011, 12:11 AM
<font color=goldenrod>I love watching Daniel Murphy hit - but even I am starting to think they should ship him to an AL team this offseason. He doesn't have prototypical DH power, but he'd be a great guy to slide into the #2 spot.
It's just obvious that he lacks the ability and instinct to play defense in the major leagues, not even at 1B.</font>
Droford
08-02-2011, 12:39 AM
And Lee has 2 Homers in his first game tonight... lol
Lee had been heating up in the month of July...that might prove to be the best deadline deal trade if he keeps it up since they gave up almost nothing (Single A Ball player) for him.
Damian Rey
08-02-2011, 12:44 PM
I think the Pirates' GM understands that the fact they are even remotely in the race is a fluke considering the way their roster is currently constructed. Lee and Ludwick add some veteran depth and Grilli is...well, he's there. But still, I liked what the Pirates did. They didn't overspend or mortgage their future for the sake of competing for one lone year.
Cleveland, on the other hand, may have shit the bed. I get that they're in contention, but who honestly thinks a team that is hovering above .500 and had one really good month is a legitimate playoff contender? I sure as shit don't, and I think they made a very poor move in selling off the careers of two potentially very good starting pitchers to have the services of another for a lowly three years.
Let's be honest here. The Indians are only competing for the division because both the White Sox, who were heavily favored, and the Twins, who are always solid, have been complete, utter failures this year. Here's a quote from ESPN's Keith Law;
"The main problem for Cleveland here is that it is incorrectly evaluating its own team -- the Indians shouldn't be buying, and while I could forgive them for not selling, that would be the smarter move for a team still trying to rebuild. Since a fluky 30-15 start driven largely by a schedule with more cupcakes than a Sprinkles bake shop, Cleveland is 23-36 and has been outscored by 77 runs in that span -- that is, it has been outscored by over a run and a quarter per game. Superman isn't going to close that gap, and while there are things to like about Ubaldo Jimenez, Superman he ain't."
Before even reading that, I was harping on at work about it. I think the Indians have made a piss poor decision in trading for a guy who's velocity has dipped and hasn't been good since the first half of 2010. I understand why they'd try to upgrade, but there were other solid pitching options out there that they would not have had to sell 4-7 years of two solid starting pitchers' careers for.
Fact is, Cleveland is a fluke, and they just knee jerked their way into digging a deeper hole into their franchise by buying a less than stellar Ubaldo Jimenez. In about 3 years, the Rockies are going to look like geniuses, much like they did when they hosed the Atheltics in the Matt Holliday deal.
Meanwhile, my Padres made what I perceived to be as a very good move in trading premiere set up man Mike Adams to the Rangers for RHP Robbie Erlin, who is listed as the 34th best prospect in all of baseball according to Baseball America, and Joe Wieland, who recently threw a no hitter and is being touted as cracking the top 100 prospects lists at some point next year.
I admit I wanted the Padres to bring in some offense. The system is in dire need of above average offensive position players, espcially at shortstop. But although that's not what the Padres did, they were able to net themselves two guys who project to be middle to back end starters who will be well suited for PETCO park. Considering that Adams was originally picked off of the minor league free agent scrap heap, and has since turned into one of the best set up men in the game, the package the Padres received for his services is pretty damn good.
There's a lot of smoke coming from this " Ubaldo might be hurt " talk. I'm starting to wonder. If he's not hurt and turns out to be a legit ace, Cleveland wins this trade. Believe me, I love taking and reading about prospects, but you just never know about some of these guys
Take a guy like Josh Vitters in the Cubs farm system. This guy in 2009 and 10, was one of the top 50 prospects in baseball. Now I'm not entirely sure if he's still alive. They aren't guaranteed to be hits.
P.s. I bought espn insider just to read about baseball prospects heh. Among other things ofcourse.
Damian Rey
08-02-2011, 02:53 PM
I understand no prospect is a guarantee, but the Indians are not a guarantee to compete in what has otherwise been a division dominated by three better teams. Two of those teams have tanked, but even then, the ChiSox are right on Detroit and Cleveland's ass.
My issue with Cleveland is that they're going "all in", when they're scraping to play .500 ball. They're not a playoff team, and going against powerhouses like Texas, Boston and New York, they have no chance. Ubaldo, even if he's on fire, is not going to change that, much like Sabathia didn't change a thing for the Brewers.
I understand Cleveland trying to get better, but when your franchise is in rebuilding mode, you don't trade away two guys, one of which was already starting in the big leagues, for a 3 year rental when you can't guarantee your window of opportunity will last past this season.
Even if they somehow pull the division title out of all this, the Ubaldo trade will still be a bad decision. Trading for a player like that, where you have to give up a lot to get him, is a "win now" move that teams like Texas (see Mike Adams and Koji Uehara) can afford to make because their core talent gives them a legitimate opportunity to win a title for the forseeable future.
The Indians are no longer in that position. They blew their shot in 2007. 4 years later, they have still yet to recover with little hope in sight, and trading away very valuable pitching options for one fluke season, in my opinion, was not the right move, regardless of how the season plays out.
Vitters has plate discipline issues, which is why he's dropped of the prospect lists. He's still only 21 years old, so there's hope. Even if he doesn't improve his plate discipline, he could still be a solid regular me thinks.
And I have ESPN Insider. I bought it primarily for Keith Law. I don't really care for anyone else on there.
Gertner
08-02-2011, 03:02 PM
Keith Law is amazing.
http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mad-baseball-bro.gif
BTW, if Purcey did this regularly I'd like the Jays to re-acquire him.
Damian Rey
08-02-2011, 03:05 PM
Yea, I love Keith Law. He's a bit pompous at times, but I enjoy his work and he's someone I really try to listen to when he's discussing prospects and what not.
Gertner
08-02-2011, 03:09 PM
hahah the Orioles just claimed Jo Jo Reyes off waivers.
DaveWadding
08-02-2011, 05:05 PM
much like Sabathia didn't change a thing for the Brewers.
So singlehandedly getting a team into the playoffs for the first time in 26 years isn't changing anything? I'll be damned.
Droford
08-02-2011, 05:18 PM
hahah the Orioles just claimed Jo Jo Reyes off waivers.
Hes going to the bullpen where hes instantly better than everyone in the bullpen once Jim Johnson is converted back to a starter in a couple weeks.
Damian Rey
08-02-2011, 05:37 PM
So singlehandedly getting a team into the playoffs for the first time in 26 years isn't changing anything? I'll be damned.
And where exactly did they get after that? That's right. No where. He didn't singlehandedly get them anywhere. He made them better yes, but a guy who gives you a chance to win once every 5 days is not going "carry" a team because he's not contributing on a nightly basis.
Not to mention, that trade demolished them. While they made the playoffs, they didn't retain Sabathia, and they lost out on getting draft picks for him walking to the Yankees, who gave up their 1st rounder to the Angels that year after signing Tex. So really, outside of an exciting 2 months and a week, the Sabathia trade accomplished absolutely nothing.
Doug Melvin was smarter this time around, and traded for two top of the rotation starters who fit right in, and are controllable past this year. Add that Weeks, Braun and Gallardo are still going to be around, and the Brewers don't look so bad even when they lose Prince after this season. They went into a "win now and later" mode. Their guys are still young and there's a window of opportunity this time around. Couldn't say that in 2008.
Boomer
08-02-2011, 05:49 PM
Hes going to the bullpen where hes instantly better than everyone in the bullpen once Jim Johnson is converted back to a starter in a couple weeks.
Unless he's used as a long reliever, he doesn't have the stuff to be a good bullpen arm.
Supreme Olajuwon
08-02-2011, 05:55 PM
Wait, how did the Sabathia trade demolish the Brewers? They gave up LaPorta who's turning out to be a huge bust and a couple other no name prospects that haven't panned out.
Supreme Olajuwon
08-02-2011, 05:56 PM
They basically rented a superstar for nothing and rode him to the playoffs. How is that bad in any way?
Aguakate
08-02-2011, 06:41 PM
...Milwaukee traded for Zack Greinke...Ryan Braun has turned into a star...they traded for K-Rod...Yovani Gallardo is pretty good...and they're fighting for first place...
...yeah...the CC Sabathia trade demolished the Brewers...
Droford
08-02-2011, 06:46 PM
Unless he's used as a long reliever, he doesn't have the stuff to be a good bullpen arm.
You havent seen the Os bullpen..none of them do.
Aguakate
08-02-2011, 06:48 PM
You havent seen the Os bullpen..none of them do.
So he'll fit right in.
Tyler Colvin hit a home run that might still be in the air.
Corndad
08-02-2011, 08:38 PM
Wow. Our Buccos are back to being the Buccos I think already. 6 Homers by the Cubs tonight so far 4 innings in.
Evil Vito
08-02-2011, 10:36 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Aaaaand Isringhausen blows the save in embarrassing fashion, handing the Mets their 5th loss and completely negating their great road trip last week.
I expect the Braves to come in this weekend and sweep them away like dogs, officially killing their minute hopes at making a run. Going to next Wednesday's game against the Padres - place will probably be a morgue.</font>
Lol cubs another three game.winning streak.
Aguakate
08-03-2011, 12:33 AM
LOL Cubs played Home Run Derby tonight. It was awesome to see.
DaveWadding
08-03-2011, 12:43 AM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1003/mlb.fantasy.top15.outfielders/images/justin-upton-oplz-18144.jpg
Supreme Olajuwon
08-03-2011, 07:56 AM
Aroldis Chapman hasn't allowed a hit in his last 9.2 innings. During that time he's walked 1 batter and struck out 15. Delicious.
Skippord
08-03-2011, 10:52 AM
http://a2.twimg.com/profile_images/1471902530/image_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/#%21/Alex_White6) @Alex_White6 (http://twitter.com/#%21/Alex_White6) Alex White
I sure thought the rockies would be a little more rocky then this.
already love this guy
Skippord
08-03-2011, 10:56 AM
I keep wondering if Chapman would be better as a closer or a starter
gone back and forth on it like 500 times
Don't know I mentioned it, but I'm going to Wrigley for Cubs vs Reds september 6. Three dollar beer night in the bleachers. Cant beat that.
My second Cubs v Reds game this year. First one was pretty darn good even though Cubbies lost.
Innovator
08-03-2011, 12:04 PM
go cubs go, GO CUBS GO
Gertner
08-03-2011, 12:12 PM
Hes going to the bullpen where hes instantly better than everyone in the bullpen once Jim Johnson is converted back to a starter in a couple weeks.
Lol you realize we're talking about Jo Jo Reyes?
Aguakate
08-03-2011, 12:14 PM
Stephen Strasburg pitched a simulated game, they're talking about making some rehab starts and perhaps pitching in the big leagues in September...
...if I was the Nationals, I wouldn't even THINK about bringing him up this year at all...they're not in a pennant race, or going for the Wild Card, so there's no use in rushing it...I'd wait until Spring Training.
Innovator
08-03-2011, 12:49 PM
Phil Hughes sighting in Chicago last night.
ClockShot
08-03-2011, 04:54 PM
Greaaaaaaaaaat. You guys will get a laugh out of this.
MLB investigating A-Rod playing in illegal poker games. (http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/6830659/mlb-suspend-alex-rodriguez-illegal-poker)
Supreme Olajuwon
08-03-2011, 05:46 PM
there's nothing funny about illegal poker
Emperor Smeat
08-03-2011, 06:15 PM
So basically A-Rod is never going to learn to stop doing things that are illegal or against the rules in MLB.
This would make it 2 really dumb things he's done this year and hasn't cared at all with the first being having his cousin who he blamed gave him roids near the team after MLB told him no more meetings with the relative.
Aguakate
08-03-2011, 06:28 PM
there's nothing funny about illegal poker
Right. I read he could face a BIG suspension, or may even get banned. So, no laughing matter.
ClockShot
08-03-2011, 06:30 PM
So basically A-Rod is never going to learn to stop doing things that are illegal or against the rules in MLB.
This would make it 2 really dumb things he's done this year and hasn't cared at all with the first being having his cousin who he blamed gave him roids near the team after MLB told him no more meetings with the relative.
Exactly.
ClockShot
08-03-2011, 08:22 PM
After trade deadline house cleaning:
After being released from the Nationals last week, 43 year old Matt Stairs decides to call it a career.
O's pick up Jo-Jo Reyes off Waivers. Which leads to.....
O's release Justin Duchscherer. He never started a game for the O's this season. Been on the DL all this time.
Who wouldn't want to snort coke with Tobey Mcguire, Dicaprio, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon?
Emperor Smeat
08-03-2011, 10:34 PM
Wakefield still stuck on 199 wins with another no decision today but he was pissed when Tito wanted to remove him from the game after Indians tied the score 3-3.
Crowd was booing the pull but cheered when Wakefield walked to the dugout. Ellsbury with back to back games he had the walk off game winning hit.
Innovator
08-03-2011, 11:08 PM
Who wants AJ Burnett?
Anyone?
Astros?
Droford
08-03-2011, 11:17 PM
After trade deadline house cleaning:
After being released from the Nationals last week, 43 year old Matt Stairs decides to call it a career.
O's pick up Jo-Jo Reyes off Waivers. Which leads to.....
O's release Justin Duchscherer. He never started a game for the O's this season. Been on the DL all this time.
Duch had another hip surgery...Id say he's probably done.
Triple Naitch
08-04-2011, 02:03 PM
Logan Morrison may be my favorite person on twitter.
Gertner
08-04-2011, 04:39 PM
Fuck the Jays need a closer.
In great news, Brett Lawrie recalled and Travis Snider sent down. The Lawrie era begins!
Damian Rey
08-04-2011, 08:55 PM
Fuck the Jays need a closer.
In great news, Brett Lawrie recalled and Travis Snider sent down. The Lawrie era begins!
I heard the Jays were in on Heath Bell merely for the draft picks they'd get for him signing elseshwere next year. Maybe the get him through the waiver wire.
glanville6
08-04-2011, 10:01 PM
Cubs are on FIRE
Corndad
08-04-2011, 10:10 PM
Buccos bullpen facepalmed that game away in the 8th.
Aguakate
08-04-2011, 10:10 PM
The Cubbies coming from behind!
Go Cubs GO!
Emperor Smeat
08-05-2011, 12:07 AM
:rofl: Stephen Colbert officially takes over the MLB Twitter feed for the next 24 hours starting a few minutes ago.
Apparently in June MLB and himself had a bet using an MLB streak challenge game for a couple of days and he won 2-0.
http://twitter.com/#!/MLB
1st official tweet from him
SCORE UPDATE! Seattle Salamanders 7, Albuquerque Balloons, aught. Also, it's Toss Your Trash On The Field Day at all stadiums! #Colbert
:lol: people are already complaining and he's barely had control for 10 minutes so far.
Aguakate
08-05-2011, 12:22 AM
Cubs should forget about paying Albert Pujols or Prince Fielder big bucks...and just sign Carlos Peņa to a good deal, and use the rest of the money to get pitching and build a better team...
...Peņa won't hit you .300, but he'll hit 30 or 40 Home Runs...why pay some one $100 million to hit you 30 or 40 Homers, when you can sign Carlos Peņa while spending less money and having more left over to spend on building a better team?
DaveWadding
08-05-2011, 12:36 AM
because it's ALBERT FUCKING PUJOLS. Are you stupid?
Supreme Olajuwon
08-05-2011, 12:38 AM
Apparently Aguakate knows something that every GM in baseball does not.
Aguakate
08-05-2011, 12:43 AM
Apparently Aguakate knows something that every GM in baseball does not.
I'm just saying...why pay more for Pujols or Fielder, who will ask for a lot of money, when you can sign Peņa for less money and get good production from First Base? With the money you save, you can better the ball club...
...if they sign one of those 2 guys, the Cubs will be similar to what they were for most of Sammy Sosa's tenure in Chicago: a losing team, but hey...they've got a superstar, so...
If the Cubs can win 38 out of the next 50, they might have a chance!................
Damian Rey
08-05-2011, 01:21 AM
I don't know, Agua. I don't think Pujols will get $30mil largely due to his age. But if the Cubs can get him, they should. Pujols is a legitimate draw. The Cubs have a massive media market, and they can afford to dole out the contract based on the attendance Pujols would draw alone.
Pena is a nice piece, but he's a 6 hitter on a good team. 30 HR is nice, but the key objective is to not produce an out. It's that simple. I dare ask, who produces less outs that Albert Pujols.
It's not even a question.
And about the my comments concerning the Brewers; perhaps "destroyed" was too strong of a word. Looking back, my original point was that it didn't accomplish anything outside of a cameo playoff appearance and 2 months of increased revenue. The revenue is nice, but in the long run, it served as irrelevant. The Brewers didn't go anywhere immediately after that season, and they lost out on conveted draft picks due to the Angels receiving comp picks after losing Tex to the Yankees. But conceed they were not destroyed.
Damian Rey
08-05-2011, 01:28 AM
I'm just saying...why pay more for Pujols or Fielder, who will ask for a lot of money, when you can sign Peņa for less money and get good production from First Base? With the money you save, you can better the ball club...
...if they sign one of those 2 guys, the Cubs will be similar to what they were for most of Sammy Sosa's tenure in Chicago: a losing team, but hey...they've got a superstar, so...
221/341/439 is "good" production? Granted, the OBP is not bad, but Pujols, in a down year where his wrist was repaired, has a similar OBP, higher SLG and higher OPS. Pujols is far superior than Pena, and even if the Cubs were to try and spend their money on several players rather than one, they are not going to accumulate the lone production that Pujols alone would bring them.
Aguakate
08-05-2011, 01:31 AM
Cubs need to spend their money wisely...I've read their Chicago fanbase is starting to slowly, but surely, decrease...that the games aren't selling out like they used to, even in their toughest seasons...to some, it seems like the "loveable losers" thing is dying down.
ClockShot
08-05-2011, 05:29 AM
Yankees sweep the White Sox, didn't walk anybody during the series, and are tied with the Red Sox atop the AL east.
Going to be a crazy 3 days.
Innovator
08-05-2011, 07:29 AM
Yanks are riding high, perfect time to shit the bed again.
If the Cubs win six in a row, I riot.
Gertner
08-05-2011, 10:22 AM
I heard the Jays were in on Heath Bell merely for the draft picks they'd get for him signing elseshwere next year. Maybe the get him through the waiver wire.
That's definitely an AA thing to do. They basically bought a pick in the off season when they acquired the rights to Miguel Olivo.
Innovator
08-05-2011, 12:50 PM
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DaveWadding
08-05-2011, 02:53 PM
Albert Pujols has been worth approximately 87 wins above replacement over his career (86.7). Carlos Pena? About 14 wins (13.9).
Oh and by the way, in terms of WAR, this has been Pujols' worst year BY FAR (3 WAR, the next worst is 5.8 in 2002; career average before this year is 8.4 wins). to put that in context of the argument: Carlos Pena's highest WAR EVER is 5.3 and then his second highest is 2.9.
What that means is Albert Pujols' career FLOOR to this point is the BEST Carlos Pena has done in his career.
So yeah, I'll take Pujols. BTW, obvious post is obvious. I just like using statistics to quantify ;)
Innovator
08-05-2011, 03:01 PM
Call me old fashioned, but I would like a player who strikes fear into pitchers rather than...Carlos Pena.
DaveWadding
08-05-2011, 03:09 PM
The shift strikes fear into no one.
Aguakate
08-05-2011, 04:11 PM
...Cubbies leading the Reds 3-2 in the 6th...awesome.
Damian Rey
08-05-2011, 08:46 PM
Padres are murdering the Pirates.
Skippord
08-05-2011, 08:49 PM
Davey Johnson looks way older than he is
Aguakate
08-05-2011, 10:28 PM
Davey Johnson looks way older than he is
...'Cause he lost weight and stuff.
Innovator
08-05-2011, 10:38 PM
BALLGAME OVER! YANKEES WIN! TTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YANKEES WIN!
Damian Rey
08-05-2011, 10:41 PM
I think the Pirates are starting to realive their fluke season is coming to an end. The Padres have one of the worst offenses in the National League, and the Padres worked them over big time.
The dream is collapsing.
Aguakate
08-05-2011, 10:52 PM
Looks like they came back to reality, yes...
Corndad
08-05-2011, 11:10 PM
The Pitching was keeping the Buccos competitive but now it seems like that is gone, with no real offensive punch its not looking good again. Lord only hopes they at least get .500 this year so it's not seen as a disappointment.
Damian Rey
08-05-2011, 11:33 PM
Their pitching was all smoke and mirrors, anyways. It was only a matter of time before their mediocre rotation showed their true colors. Did anyone really believe in a rotation featuring Kevin Correia, James McDonald, Charlie Morton, Jeff Karstens and Paul Maholm? I sure as shit didn't.
It was a nice story while it lasted, but it's looking like all is lost in Pittsburgh, right now.
Aguakate
08-05-2011, 11:37 PM
It's possible the Cubs may finish in third place in the NL Central.
Damian Rey
08-05-2011, 11:49 PM
They have three talented starters at the top of the rotation. If their lineup produces, it's not impossible for them to get on a roll.
If Mike Quade only had to manage the last 2 months of the season, every season, he'd be the best manager in the bigs.
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 12:07 AM
I know he's made some bonehead decisions. I remember Larry Bowa, who I think is an idiot, for the record, feels like Sandberg was the guy the Cubs "missed the boat on" when it came down to managing. Sandberg has managed all of 5 seasons, while Quade has been managing since 1985.
Quade deserved at least a chance to see what he could do, and he has failed. Some of that is the talent pool, or lack thereof, and some of that is him. But I highly doubt the Cubs would be much better if Sandberg was running things.
McLegend
08-06-2011, 12:18 AM
The Giants are a huge douchebag team.
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 12:27 AM
I hate pretty much every player on their roster.
I know he's made some bonehead decisions. I remember Larry Bowa, who I think is an idiot, for the record, feels like Sandberg was the guy the Cubs "missed the boat on" when it came down to managing. Sandberg has managed all of 5 seasons, while Quade has been managing since 1985.
Quade deserved at least a chance to see what he could do, and he has failed. Some of that is the talent pool, or lack thereof, and some of that is him. But I highly doubt the Cubs would be much better if Sandberg was running things.
A lot is him. There was a great article on insider that showed the main reasons why the Cubs were losing.
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 01:11 AM
Insider? I'll have to dig for it. I'm sure he's a problem, but they do not have a talented team. Pinella is regarded as a great manager and he couldn't take them anywhere. I really don't thin Sandberg would have done much better if at all, and his failures would have been blown through the roof because of his name and history.
Aguakate
08-06-2011, 01:15 AM
...Sandberg's team with the Cubs was a winning team...and during the HOF Ceremony, when they presented him, I think I heard his present team is in first place too, so...
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 01:20 AM
Yea, but is that due to him being an amazing manager, or because he has talent on the team? Again, Pinella is regarded as a great manager, and he could not turn the cubs around. I don't Sandberg could either. You can't make gold out of nothing.
Aguakate
08-06-2011, 01:22 AM
Piniella couldn't turn the Devil Rays around either, so...I never bought into him as this GREAT manager.
All this diva-type BS we've seen from Zambrano and Dempster wouldn't have happened under Sandberg...and if it did, he would've put them in their place FAST, not shrug it off like Quade did.
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 01:24 AM
He didn't turn the Rays around due to the lack of talent he had to work with. Same thing with the Cubs. Sure, there were some nice pieces there, but at the end of the day the team he got was not that great. You can't win without talent. The Padres showed it at the end of last year, the Pirates and Cleveland are slowly showing it this year. It doesn't matter who's calling the shots. If you don't have the talent, you're not going to win.
Skippord
08-06-2011, 01:27 AM
the Cubs have a very talented team, if it were 2005
Aguakate
08-06-2011, 01:28 AM
But the Cubs are winning now, without making any moves, except trading KosuKe FuKudome (a lot of K's in capital, because he strikes out so much, get it?)...
...so if there had been an authority figure who demanded respect from the team, perhaps they would've had a better season...not saying World Series caliber, but, better.
Quade will be gone by next year's trading deadline, that's my guess.
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 01:37 AM
And Pinella didn't command respect? I really don't buy into all these intagibles about demanding respect or playing the game the right way and all the other cliches. Demanding respect or not, they don't have a good team. Castro and Ramirez are legit starters, but Pena is a 6 hitter on a good team, Byrd is a nice player but he's not spectacular and is a borderline starter on a good team. Soriano isn't the same guy. Barney is not a starter, and Colvin, if he's getting PT in RF has pathetic plate discipline and wouldn't start on a good team.
Their bullpen's had all kinds of holes over the season, and before getting Garza, their rotation was a 1-2 punch, when Zambrano felt like showing up.
Aguakate
08-06-2011, 01:47 AM
Piniella is an old man. He lost that team.
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 01:51 AM
And Sandberg, at the refreshing age of 51, is young? Like I said, doesn't matter who you get in there, the team is not built to win. They do not have the fire power, or the starting pitching and bullpen to win.
Aguakate
08-06-2011, 01:56 AM
Ryne Sandberg is a hero in Chicago. He's fiery. All that team needs is a fire under their butt.
Skippord
08-06-2011, 02:45 AM
and players who don't suck
Nervous Ferret
08-06-2011, 03:49 AM
It's not nice of you guys to talk about Droford this way
Loose Cannon
08-06-2011, 07:11 AM
Burnett needs to go. Guy can't even shutdown when they put up 13 runs for him.
Gertner
08-06-2011, 12:23 PM
Brett Lawrie :heart
Skippord
08-06-2011, 01:36 PM
Juan Nicasio broke his neck last night :(
Aguakate
08-06-2011, 02:06 PM
So, Zambrano takes it upon himself to end the Cubs' winning streak.
EDIT: Nevermind, he just homered.
Supreme Olajuwon
08-06-2011, 02:16 PM
Zambrano is such a fat gay.
Boomer
08-06-2011, 04:43 PM
Jurrjens on the DL. Keep 'em coming.
Aguakate
08-06-2011, 04:47 PM
Geez, Cubs win 11-4...
...SEVEN STRAIGHT GAMES!
Boomer
08-06-2011, 04:49 PM
But seriously, at this point, nothing will surprise me for the Braves this year. Gonzalez suddenly wants to be LaRussa and has pitchers batting 8th. Chipper is just coming back even though he's been off the DL for weeks, Jose "George" Constanza has been outhitting Jason Heyard, and Dan Uggla has a 26 game hit streak. Freddit Freeman is even batting over .300 for the year, and has an 18 game hit streak or something. Tomorrow, we will probably sign Tom Glavine, John Smoltz, and Greg Maddux to one-year deals.
Aguakate
08-06-2011, 04:55 PM
It's not Gonzalez's fault. Even under another manager, given the injury issues the Braves have had, their record wouldn't be that much better.
Boomer
08-06-2011, 04:59 PM
I never said it was Gonzo's fault (though I'm not a huge fan of his). The Braves still have a chance to make the playoffs - a good one at that. If not for the injuries, I don't think it would be close in the wild card.
Have to give it more to Frank Wren for keeping our pitching depth as the #1 priority. Mike Minor is a damn good replacement for Jurrjens for a few weeks, and who knows what the Braves are going to do with the other three top pitching prospects.
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 05:54 PM
Ryne Sandberg is a hero in Chicago. He's fiery. All that team needs is a fire under their butt.
Being a hero means jack shit when it comes to winning. Just because Sandberg is managing doesn't automatically mean that the Cubs will actually become a good team, despite the holes in their roster.
He probably wouldn't fare much better than Quade is now. You need talent to win. Cubs are lacking that in too many areas of their roster.
DaveWadding
08-06-2011, 05:58 PM
Fister Furbush
Innovator
08-06-2011, 06:46 PM
Joe Buck has to be thrilled that a) the Yankees are losing; and B) Football is coming back. Honestly it sounds like he's a second away from crying while pbping baseball.
Innovator
08-06-2011, 06:54 PM
JESUS that was the worst home run call ever. He's making the TBS guys sound like JR calling RAW.
Loose Cannon
08-06-2011, 06:54 PM
he was just half asleep calling the Teixeira homerun
McLegend
08-06-2011, 07:29 PM
In Joe Bucks defense he sounds sick.
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 07:37 PM
Also in Joe Buck's defense, he had surgery to repair a torn something or another in his throat, thus affecting his came calling abilities. The article stated he was working his way back, so I expect nothing to come of his game calling this year. He's usually my preferred PBP guys. McCarver is the one I could do without.
Loose Cannon
08-06-2011, 07:38 PM
Tim McCarver is the greatest human being on the face of this earth
Emperor Smeat
08-06-2011, 07:46 PM
I know the main reason Joe Buck does MLB games is to continue the tradition from his father in calling baseball games but the last few years he sounds like he's just "bored" of baseball games in comparison to football games.
:D nice win by the Red Sox and they managed to respond multiple times with their bats when the Yankees scored unlike yesterday.
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 08:28 PM
McCarver is horrendous.
ClockShot
08-06-2011, 09:30 PM
Damn Red Sox are literally Sabathia's kryptonite. He sucks when pitches against them, invincible everywhere else.
And seriously, Ellsbury's little tear as of late has me scratching my head.
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 10:04 PM
Padres are continuing the genocide of the Pirates pitching staff. Kyle Blanks hit his first career grand slam.
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=17727571&topic_id=&c_id=mlb&tcid=vpp_copy_17727571&v=3
Fucking lazer into the first row. Blanks has more raw power than anyone the Padres have drafted since, dare I say, Dave Windfield. Even at PETCO, Blanks lofts the ball out. If he and Rizzo blossom over the next few seasons, together, things will be looking up in San Diego.
Aguakate
08-06-2011, 10:07 PM
I wonder if that extra inning game the Pirates had against the Braves, the one where they lost due to a blown call, has something to do with their rapid downfall. If it had a psychological effect or something.
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 10:11 PM
They were already plummeting at that point. It was in its early stages, but it was happening. The team just isn't talented enough. Their pitching staff is mediocre at best, and outside of a few, their lineup's pretty bland.
They got in the race with smoke and mirrors, and now that it's been exposed, the season is collapsing on them.
Innovator
08-06-2011, 10:57 PM
Damn Red Sox are literally Sabathia's kryptonite. He sucks when pitches against them, invincible everywhere else.
And seriously, Ellsbury's little tear as of late has me scratching my head.
I wonder if Ellsbury and PEDroia are locker neighbors.
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 11:02 PM
PEDroia? Really? Is this a tongue and cheek thing or do you seriously believe Pedroia is enhancing?
Aguakate
08-06-2011, 11:05 PM
LOL crazy how people will hint that Pedroia is enhancing, yet totally buy Jose Bautista's rise as a slugger as legitimate.
Supreme Olajuwon
08-06-2011, 11:13 PM
PEDs dont even do anything anyway, right?
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 11:17 PM
I buy Bautista. His swing was broken down on MLB Network.
The way they did it was showing how, when with Pittsburgh, he didn't load his weight to his back leg, and didn't have any leverage when he would take his stride. Because there was zero momentum, he was a punch and judy hitter who never drove his lower half of his body through his swing.
These days, he starts early, and uses that leg kick of his to shift weight to his back leg. When he strides forwards, his hips have momentum coming forward. When his front foot plants and his hips and back foot start to turn, he has a ton of torque as he swings. That's why he's tatooing the baseball everytime he gets a fat pitch over the plate.
He's always had the build and frame to hit for power. Just never put it together till now.
Pedroia can mash. I don't think he'd hit for as much power elsewhere, but he hammers line drives everywhere, and even though he swings out of his shoes, it's controlled. I'm not the biggest fan of the guy, but I'd be shocked to find out he's cheating.
Aguakate
08-06-2011, 11:20 PM
BTW, I'm not implying Bautista used/uses PEDs, all I'm saying is that if you're going to cast doubt on Pedroia, who's been putting on a "line drive show" since he came up to the bigs, why not also cast doubt on Bautista, who turned his career around almost overnight?
By all accounts, both players are 100% clean, just in case.
Damian Rey
08-06-2011, 11:22 PM
Agreed. I think it'd be pretty darn difficult to cheat these days.
Aguakate
08-06-2011, 11:23 PM
Ask Manny Ramirez.
Castro is 16-32 during this seven game win streak.
Aguakate
08-07-2011, 12:16 AM
Castro is going to be to the Cubs what Jose Reyes is to the Mets. Watch.
Damian Rey
08-07-2011, 12:17 AM
Castro's a fucking stud. That he's so young yet so talented is ridiculous.
Damian Rey
08-07-2011, 12:18 AM
Castro is going to be to the Cubs what Jose Reyes is to the Mets. Watch.
If he stays healthy over the long term, he will be better. i think he might grow into more power, since he leg kicks and strides into the ball, whereas Reyes stays backs and rotates his hips through the zone rather than striding.
Aguakate
08-07-2011, 12:21 AM
Another reason for the Cubs not to sign Pujols or Fielder: so they can re-sign Starlin Castro to a mega deal when the time comes and they find themselves in the spot the Mets are in with Reyes.
Damian Rey
08-07-2011, 12:48 AM
The Cubs have more than enough room in payroll to do both. They could sign Pujols for $25mil, and still lock up Castro long term and buy out his arbitration years and some out of free agency.
Aguakate
08-07-2011, 12:51 AM
IDK...Mets thought they had enough too, and now had to clear some payroll and are still not sure whether they'll re-sign Reyes (I for one think they will...they HAVE to...but, you never know).
Perhaps the Cubs WILL be able to re-sign Castro, since by then they'll hopefully have gotten rid of Soriano and Ramirez, and their big contracts.
I'm about to buy a authentic Cubs jersey. I don't know which though. Would you guys go Castro ( with all star, stars on back of neck ) or Matt Garza.
Garza is about 20$ cheaper. Both my favorite players.
Aguakate
08-07-2011, 01:23 AM
Castro all the way, dude.
Damian Rey
08-07-2011, 01:23 AM
IDK...Mets thought they had enough too, and now had to clear some payroll and are still not sure whether they'll re-sign Reyes (I for one think they will...they HAVE to...but, you never know).
Perhaps the Cubs WILL be able to re-sign Castro, since by then they'll hopefully have gotten rid of Soriano and Ramirez, and their big contracts.
The reason the Mets are in the money trouble they are currently in is due to the Wilpons beind tied to that ponzi scheme, hence selling minority shares of the club.
The Cubs just completed being purchased. There's money to play with and I'm sure spending that money will not be an issue.
http://www.imgur.com/bBnRC.jpg
I'm ordering this. Can't wait to wear it at wrigley in september.
Aguakate
08-07-2011, 01:50 AM
Hell yeah.
Damian Rey
08-07-2011, 01:55 AM
Nice!
I know the Cubs are not going to the playoffs, but I would love to see this streak last a few more games.
Aguakate
08-07-2011, 11:42 AM
They may not go to the playoffs, but it'd be awesome if they could play the role of spoilers.
If they could just win today and then sweep the Nats, id be good.
Aguakate
08-07-2011, 11:53 AM
Sheesh...that'd put their winning streak at, like, 11...
DaveWadding
08-07-2011, 03:08 PM
Another reason for the Cubs not to sign Pujols or Fielder: so they can re-sign Starlin Castro to a mega deal when the time comes and they find themselves in the spot the Mets are in with Reyes.
God, you are dumb. Shut up.
Aguakate
08-07-2011, 03:13 PM
God, you are dumb. Shut up.
Make me.
Evil Vito
08-07-2011, 03:39 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Reyes leaves the game in the 2nd inning with a tight hamstring. Hamstring injuries ALWAYS linger, so he's likely headed for the DL, eliminating any chance he might have had to be the Mets' first ever MVP. The chances were probably slim anyway since voters use the playoffs as a tiebreaker, could see Fielder winning it.
Then a few innings later, Daniel Murphy comes in to play 2nd for the second time since May, and he is promptly spiked in the knee by a stealing Jose Costanza and he's fucked and probably gone for the year.
Fuck me. Guess I'm gonna be going to see the Buffalo Bisons on Wednesday. I should probably start rooting for the Phillies and Eagles now...I'll sabotage them from within and they'll be reduced to a crippled mess in no time.</font>
Evil Vito
08-07-2011, 03:51 PM
<font color=goldenrod>David Wright is now playing shortstop.</font>
Innovator
08-07-2011, 04:54 PM
Freddie Garcia vs. Josh Beckett. yay.
Emperor Smeat
08-07-2011, 05:13 PM
I guess the Pirates don't feel like winning anymore because according to ESPN, the team just had its worst homestand in team history and that is saying a lot considering how awful they've been for years.
Innovator
08-07-2011, 08:17 PM
Granderson, Varitek is behind the plate. Run.
Loose Cannon
08-07-2011, 08:53 PM
Garcia loves pitching in bases loaded jams
Innovator
08-07-2011, 08:56 PM
Gotta love 44 pitches in the bottom of the 2nd with 2 outs.
Innovator
08-07-2011, 09:02 PM
DO YOU HAVE TO SHOW THE FUCKING SOCK GAME
Innovator
08-07-2011, 09:08 PM
These announcers are fantastic. I can barely tell they're fellating Schilling at the same time.
ClockShot
08-07-2011, 09:33 PM
I was just reading that Posada is benched.
It looks like the end of the road.
Innovator
08-07-2011, 09:36 PM
Swish cranks it...do the deepest part of the field where Ellsbury can nicely get under it. Gonna be one of those games.
Evil Vito
08-07-2011, 10:38 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Daniel Murphy torn MCL. God dammit.</font>
Corndad
08-07-2011, 11:25 PM
How does this happen. 2 weeks ago Pirates were in first place. Now they are 10 games back. Seriously. How does that happen. You lose every game in a 7 game crucial home stand against teams with even worse records then you. Guh.
Droford
08-07-2011, 11:26 PM
Was watching one of those shows where they buy a whole bunch of crap to try and sell and they got a box of baseball/footballs cards..deemed them all to be worth nothing except for an autographed "Willie May" card...but anyway I saw a Jose Bautista Baltimore Orioles card..lol
fucking Kris Benson
ugh
Emperor Smeat
08-08-2011, 12:28 AM
:D Riveria blows a save to tie the game and then the Red Sox win in the 10th to go back into 1st in the East as well as winning the season series with the 10th win in 12 games.
These series always has at least 1 nail-bitter game and today was the game.
RoXer
08-08-2011, 12:31 AM
was hoping it would never end
Supreme Olajuwon
08-08-2011, 12:58 AM
poor Joe West was prolly popping blood vessels waiting for that game to end
Innovator
08-08-2011, 06:42 AM
Bobby Valentine was saying baseball has to do something with how long the Red Sox pitchers take in between pitches. He'll be talked to definitely, he should know better than to besmirch Boston on ESPN.
ClockShot
08-08-2011, 10:15 AM
Was watching one of those shows where they buy a whole bunch of crap to try and sell and they got a box of baseball/footballs cards..deemed them all to be worth nothing except for an autographed "Willie May" card...but anyway I saw a Jose Bautista Baltimore Orioles card..lol
fucking Kris Benson
ugh
Whoa. What's wrong with Kris Benson?
Gertner
08-08-2011, 12:13 PM
I buy Bautista. His swing was broken down on MLB Network.
The way they did it was showing how, when with Pittsburgh, he didn't load his weight to his back leg, and didn't have any leverage when he would take his stride. Because there was zero momentum, he was a punch and judy hitter who never drove his lower half of his body through his swing.
These days, he starts early, and uses that leg kick of his to shift weight to his back leg. When he strides forwards, his hips have momentum coming forward. When his front foot plants and his hips and back foot start to turn, he has a ton of torque as he swings. That's why he's tatooing the baseball everytime he gets a fat pitch over the plate.
He's always had the build and frame to hit for power. Just never put it together till now.
Pedroia can mash. I don't think he'd hit for as much power elsewhere, but he hammers line drives everywhere, and even though he swings out of his shoes, it's controlled. I'm not the biggest fan of the guy, but I'd be shocked to find out he's cheating.
Vernon Wells corrected his swing. Bautista wasn't starting his swing early enough and Weels told him "start swinging so early that you think it's ridiculous", and that's basically what did it.
Triple Naitch
08-08-2011, 12:57 PM
Any word in NY on when Montero is getting called? I just picked him up for fantasy.
Innovator
08-08-2011, 01:11 PM
The way things are progressing, definitely before the Sept 1 expansion. Sounds like they're trying to figure out how to make room.
ClockShot
08-08-2011, 01:19 PM
Any word in NY on when Montero is getting called? I just picked him up for fantasy.
According to some of the NY beat writers, Chavez is being slotted into the DH spot for now. If it don't work out, Montero will the on SWB shuttle soon.
Smart move to stash him away right now will fantasy owners still can.
ClockShot
08-08-2011, 01:30 PM
Tigers give manager Jim Leyland a 1-year extension. Keeping him around for the 2012 season. And GM Dave Dombrowski an extension until 2015.
One less opening for Cashman to consider.
Gertner
08-08-2011, 01:32 PM
hahah omg
Evil Vito
08-08-2011, 02:26 PM
Out: Jose Reyes and Daniel Murphy
In: Ruben Tejada and Mike Baxter
lol good lord
parkmania
08-08-2011, 04:29 PM
Was watching one of those shows where they buy a whole bunch of crap to try and sell and they got a box of baseball/footballs cards..deemed them all to be worth nothing except for an autographed "Willie May" card...but anyway I saw a Jose Bautista Baltimore Orioles card..lol
fucking Kris Benson
ugh
Whoa. What's wrong with Kris Benson?
Whatever the problem is, I'll tell you one thing it's NOT: his wife.
http://www.beersteak.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/anna-benson-wife-baseball-kris-02.jpg
Skippord
08-08-2011, 05:06 PM
Kevin Millwood starting for the Rockies Wednesday
oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Hardkore Kidd J
08-08-2011, 06:22 PM
Any word in NY on when Montero is getting called? I just picked him up for fantasy.
Soon.....very soon. I think with Posada being benched and basically told he's a Bench Player now. I say 2 to 3 weeks tops.
ClockShot
08-08-2011, 07:04 PM
Whatever the problem is, I'll tell you one thing it's NOT: his wife.
http://www.beersteak.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/anna-benson-wife-baseball-kris-02.jpg
We have a winner. :yes:
Innovator
08-08-2011, 07:38 PM
Soon.....very soon. I think with Posada being benched and basically told he's a Bench Player now. I say 2 to 3 weeks tops.
3 really is tops. If Chavez doesn't produce this week in the Anaheim series, he'll be up.
Innovator
08-08-2011, 07:38 PM
GOD I wish Steinbrenner was still around, heads would've rolled today.
Whatever the problem is, I'll tell you one thing it's NOT: his wife.
http://www.beersteak.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/anna-benson-wife-baseball-kris-02.jpg
Look at that titty being squeezed
Starlin Castro won NL player of the week. Second time he's won it this year.
Damian Rey
08-09-2011, 12:55 PM
Padres drop a slobber knocker to the Mets. That was a helluva game, especially considering the size of the ballpark.
Also, God damnit, I love David Wright's swing.
DaveWadding
08-09-2011, 01:26 PM
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Gertner
08-10-2011, 01:02 PM
Wow, Harden just friggen owned my Jays last night.
Not tippin enough pitches probably
Innovator
08-10-2011, 04:06 PM
go cubs go, GO CUBS GO
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ClockShot
08-10-2011, 05:06 PM
Sure as hell ain't cheerleaders.
Players wives?
Innovator
08-10-2011, 08:38 PM
GRANDYMAN! 31!
If the Cubs win there next 45 games, they have a great chance to go to the playoffs.
Evil Vito
08-11-2011, 07:49 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Fun game last night. Bobby Parnell sucks though. Definitely has proven he's not capable of being the "closer of the future". Way too unreliable. Guy will be nasty for 2 weeks and then get destroyed for 2 weeks. 100 MPH heat doesn't matter if it's straight down the middle.
Overall, my Citi Field record since the place opened is 2-7, yikes.</font>
Innovator
08-11-2011, 09:25 AM
I'm liking Gardner, Jeter, Grandy 1-3. I hope Girardi keeps Gardner up there when A-Rod comes back, either move Tex to 5 and Cano 6 or flip them.
Gertner
08-11-2011, 01:41 PM
BRETT LAWRIE!!!
Innovator
08-11-2011, 03:44 PM
Cano with a Grand Slam!
Aguakate
08-11-2011, 10:47 PM
I think Curtis Granderson has become the front runner for AL MVP.
Lets go Cubbies . Sweep the Braves this week! Lets keep this momentum until September.
Gertner
08-12-2011, 04:00 PM
Brad Mills is awful.
Aguakate
08-12-2011, 04:11 PM
Lets go Cubbies . Sweep the Braves this week! Lets keep this momentum until September.
In a perfect world, Cubs sweep the series, and Dan Uggla extends his hitting streak to 34. Just wanna see SOMEONE, ANYONE, get close to 56.
Nervous Ferret
08-12-2011, 04:35 PM
The Uggla streak is amazing. He's still only hitting like .220 or something which is kindahilarious. He's a pretty ridiculous baseball player to begin with though
Innovator
08-12-2011, 04:58 PM
In a perfect world, Cubs sweep the series, and Dan Uggla extends his hitting streak to 34. Just wanna see SOMEONE, ANYONE, get close to 56.
I don't.
Splaya
08-12-2011, 05:50 PM
Can't wait for Tigers to win/blow the division. gonna be a riot either way
Aguakate
08-12-2011, 05:58 PM
I don't.
Come on, it makes for great drama.
Innovator
08-12-2011, 10:58 PM
Zambrano gets ejected, cleans out his locker and tells people he's thinking of retiring.
Well, that would be a fitting end.
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