PrettyCool's Very Own Wrestling Thread!

[PrettyCool]

.

[PrettyCool]

I just want to post in here to up my post count by one.

Thank you for your time.

Thats also known as Spam.

Contribute to the discussion.

Theres always a 100,000 threads post for your spam.

[Nark Order]

My only problem with this is that Bobby Lashley was pretty terrible. I keep on having nightmares and flashbacks to "EAT THE CHEEZBERGER"

[PrettyCool]

My only problem with this is that Bobby Lashley was pretty terrible. I keep on having nightmares and flashbacks to "EAT THE CHEEZBERGER"

Bibby Lashley was incredible. His only flaw was that he didnt sound like a monster on the mic, but as a wrestler, he was AMAZING. He was a great great technical/power wrestler, on par with Brock Lesnar and John Cena. His mic skills are the only thing that kept him down.

[FourFifty]

Says the guy with 4 posts.....

Okay, let's look at why your idea is a bad idea, with a little detail.

WWE has a lot of big fish in what is becoming a smaller and smaller body of water. We have Lesnar, Cena, Triple H, Daniel Bryan, The Undertaker, Orton, Kane, blah blah blah etc etc. Putting Bobby back on tv is just going to take time away from the current talent, and talent that is still trying to get over. Another generic big man is going to take TV time from Cody Rhodes, Broodus Clay, Lord Tensai, Alberto Del Rio, CM Punk, and more.
There's a lot of talent, and the product is getting fresh again. WWE does not need Lashley. If anything Lashley will hurt WWE at this point in time.

[whiteyford]

Are we thinking of the same guy here, Lashley was pretty bland overall.

[FourFifty]

My only problem with this is that Bobby Lashley was pretty terrible. I keep on having nightmares and flashbacks to "EAT THE CHEEZBERGER"

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

[Swiss Ultimate]

My only problem with this is that Bobby Lashley was pretty terrible. I keep on having nightmares and flashbacks to "EAT THE CHEEZBERGER"

THIS!

[PrettyCool]

Nonsense.

Most ppl dont like Lashley because they think he is a black Lesnar rip off, but Lashley is a completely different wrestler. The fact is Lashley is more talented than Brodus Clay, or Lord Tensai (AKA Albert, who failed badly in all his WWE runs) and is a totally different wrestler than Cody Rhodes.

Fact is, Brodus and the other guys u mentioned are mostly mid card talent. Lashley is a main event talent. Lashley could easily headline a pay per view, along with Lesnar. Lashley Vs Lesnar would be a dream match. Two NCAA champs. Two former world champs. Two former MMA superstars. Who will come out in one piece?

Lashley was a one of a lifetime chance for the WWE. Firing Lashley was like if they fired Cena when he debuted as a rapper, or if they fired Lesnar before he became champ.

Lashley doesnt need the WWE, but the WWE can benefit ALOT from Lashley.

[Jordan]

I liked MY MAN BOBBY LAASHLEY

[Innovator]

No, Lashley was shit.

[whiteyford]

Most people are indifferent to Lashley because he's bland as fuck. Albert didnt really fail,he was pushed as a mid card talent and was a mid card talent.

Lol at MMA superstar.

He quit.

Lol.

[PrettyCool]

No, Lashley was shit.

That was Rosie, not Lashley.

But seriously, Lashley was phenomenal. He got a lot hated on because people called him Black Lesnar.

[FourFifty]

Nonsense.

Most ppl dont like Lashley because they think he is a black Lesnar rip off, but Lashley is a completely different wrestler. The fact is Lashley is more talented than Brodus Clay, or Lord Tensai (AKA Albert, who failed badly in all his WWE runs) and is a totally different wrestler than Cody Rhodes.

Fact is, Brodus and the other guys u mentioned are mostly mid card talent. Lashley is a main event talent. Lashley could easily headline a pay per view, along with Lesnar. Lashley Vs Lesnar would be a dream match. Two NCAA champs. Two former world champs. Two former MMA superstars. Who will come out in one piece?

Lashley was a one of a lifetime chance for the WWE. Firing Lashley was like if they fired Cena when he debuted as a rapper, or if they fired Lesnar before he became champ.

Lashley doesnt need the WWE, but the WWE can benefit ALOT from Lashley.

Are you wrong? Let's ask The IWC what they think....

ICW, is PrettyCool wrong?
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m19d6xrqKq1rqfbiro1_400.gif

[Rammsteinmad]

For every Rock, Lesnar, A-Train and others that come back, guys like Ziggler, Barrett, Rhodes, Swagger, Sheamus, Ryder, Bryan etc miss out on air-time. In a few years time, when guys like the Rock, Lesnar, Undertaker, Austin, Michaels etc are well and truly done and retired, who will WWE rely on as 'big draws' when it's Wrestlemania?

So right now, should Lashley come back? No.

[whiteyford]

For every Rock, Lesnar, A-Train and others that come back, guys like Ziggler, Barrett, Rhodes, Swagger, Sheamus, Ryder, Bryan etc miss out on air-time. In a few years time, when guys like the Rock, Lesnar, Undertaker, Austin, Michaels etc are well and truly done and retired, who will WWE rely on as 'big draws' when it's Wrestlemania?

Primo.:shifty:

[PrettyCool]

For every Rock, Lesnar, A-Train and others that come back, guys like Ziggler, Barrett, Rhodes, Swagger, Sheamus, Ryder, Bryan etc miss out on air-time. In a few years time, when guys like the Rock, Lesnar, Undertaker, Austin, Michaels etc are well and truly done and retired, who will WWE rely on as 'big draws' when it's Wrestlemania?

Cena, Punk, Daniel Bryad, Sheamus etc. All get good character development. All world champs. All future legends.
The facts here speak for themselves. Bobby Lashley was a "missing the boat" moment in WWE history. If I ran the WWE right now, I would call up Bobby Lashley and open next monday's Raw with Lashley coming out and DESTROYING Brock Lesnar and then saying, "I am the ASSASSIN, Bobby Lashley. Mr. McMahon sent me to destroy you Brock". That would be an instant ratings maker!

[Rammsteinmad]

Fuck off, Iop.

[whiteyford]

I might be wrong,but was Lashley ever actually a draw?

[PrettyCool]

:?:

Stay ON TOPIC plz.

Yes, Lashley was a draw.

[FourFifty]

Fuck off, Iop.


Ya know, yea, perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but PrettyCool has to be a sock. How can someone with 10 posts (and 4 posts at the time) know about the 100,000 replies thread in casual....


Theres always a 100,000 threads post for your spam.

[whiteyford]

@prettycool

When?

[Rammsteinmad]

@PrettyCool

No he wasn't.

[FourFifty]

If WWE brings back a big man, it should be Rikishi. Hell, give him a cane, say he can't get in the ring anymore, and have him manage his boys. Use Rikishi to help get The Usos over.

[PrettyCool]

I might be wrong,but was Lashley ever actually a draw?

When he was a champ in ECW AND when he was in one of the main events at WRESTLEMANIA against Umaga.
And I saw the 100,000 posts thread, you know, this board isnt the only one that has stuff like it.

[Rammsteinmad]

Ya know, yea, perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but PrettyCool has to be a sock. How can someone with 10 posts (and 4 posts at the time) know about the 100,000 replies thread in casual....

Iop 'retired', new poster debuts, same terrible ideas.

It's Iop.

It's not cool, it's not clever, and it's not funny.

[Nark Order]

PrettyCool, I'm not going to troll you here. I think the main reason people aren't really sold on Lashley is because we're a bit sick of the "big stupid guy that can't talk" getting a push. It's happened plenty of times before and it never really goes anywhere. Also, WWE put a whole lot of stock in Lashley and he fucked them over pretty hardcore.

I don't really see a reason why he's needed. I suppose the image of a giant black man destroying somebody is alright but it's just not worth it to bring him in. He isn't reliable and he can't really talk. At all. WWE should be looking for "total package" type guys instead of big ridiculous people that can't hold a microphone.

[Rammsteinmad]

When he was a champ in ECW AND when he was in one of the main events at WRESTLEMANIA against Umaga.
And I saw the 100,000 posts thread, you know, this board isnt the only one that has stuff like it.

And that was one of the worst Wrestlemanias ever.

[whiteyford]

When he was a champ in ECW AND when he was in one of the main events at WRESTLEMANIA against Umaga.

Yeah he didnt draw then.

[Rammsteinmad]

WWE put a whole lot of stock in Lashley and he fucked them over pretty hardcore.

You mean, like Lesnar did? :D

[whiteyford]

Yeah but Lesnar was a draw,still is.

[Rammsteinmad]

Get the fuck out of this thread! :rant:

[whiteyford]

Fine you homeless looking cock smoker.:kiss:

[Nark Order]

You mean, like Lesnar did? :D

Except for Lesnar will sell out arenas.

That's, you know... relevant.

[Rammsteinmad]

Get the fuck out of this thread! :rant:

[MoFo]

He botched the shit out of every move and spoke like a homo.

If you like big clumsy black men then Zeke fills that quota, no need for Lashley.

[itsmeJD]

Not to mention Bobby Lashley had the voice of a 12 year old boy...

[Hanso Amore]

Bring back hardcore holly. He drew ad much as lashley

[Nark Order]

Not to mention Bobby Lashley had the voice of a 12 year old boy...

Stop insulting 12 year old boys, you fucking jerk.

[Droford]

After a couple years of pushing smaller guys to the moon, its funny that the night after Daniel Bryan loses in 18 seconds, A-Tra..er..LORD ALFRED...er..Lord Tensai and Brock Lesnar show up.

SEND IN THE HOSSES!

[itsmeJD]

I really felt like A-Train's gimmick isn't long for this world. It reminded me of fucking Kwang, and it's not 1995 anymore.

[Purgatory]

He botched the shit out of every move and spoke like a homo.

If you like big clumsy black men then Zeke fills that quota, no need for Lashley.

Zeke is currently drawing better than Lashley could, IMO.

[Droford]

*BRING BACK AHMED*

clap clap clap

[Jura]

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Y0IQohD41yg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Rammsteinmad]

Is that the guy who wore the Rey Mysterio mask? I remember seeing a fight where the guy was mocking Lashley and Lashley choked him out in about five seconds.

Gotta admit, I would have loved to have seen Lashley and Lesnar in an MMA fight.

[KaosDarksol]

After a couple years of pushing smaller guys to the moon, its funny that the night after Daniel Bryan loses in 18 seconds, A-Tra..er..LORD ALFRED...er..Lord Tensai and Brock Lesnar show up.

SEND IN THE HOSSES!

But who was massively cheered for the night after his 18 second loss?

[Jura]

Is that the guy who wore the Rey Mysterio mask? I remember seeing a fight where the guy was mocking Lashley and Lashley choked him out in about five seconds.

Gotta admit, I would have loved to have seen Lashley and Lesnar in an MMA fight.
I think so.

[Purgatory]

But who was massively cheered for the night after his 18 second loss?

True, very true. This is definately a "bigger picture" type thing for him.

As for the Lesnar and Lord Tensai? I think they're being brought back as "filler" for the gap that HHH, Shawn Michaels, and Taker are going to leave. We all know we won't be seeing any of them for a bit and they still have PPV's to fill and new storyline directions.

Lord Tensai will more than likely be put into a WWE title run and Lesnar will run a program with Cena, possibly a "menage et toi" if they figure The Rock in.

As for Lashley, he doesn't have the talent to fill any type of 'gap'. He didn't even make it in TNA, for fucks sake.

[stultiloquy]

Nonsense.

Most ppl dont like Lashley because they think he is a black Lesnar rip off, but Lashley is a completely different wrestler.

I totally agree, the key difference between the two being that Lesnar can actually wrestle.

[Blakeamus]

When I read the title thread, I can see multiple copies of this with Kurt Angle, RVD, etc.

[Savio]

I guess we all cant agree.

[Ermaximus]

Bath turd.

[Jura]

We love you Bobby

[Asmo]

Never was interested in Bobby Lashley. In my eyes, he will always be the Black Lesnar. And that's largely due to how the WWE packaged him. Right down to the entrance - the jump up to the ring, the slight warm up before a fight, his push. Everything. Didn't enjoy him in TNA either. Bland. As. Fuck.

[Schlomey]

I stopped reading after "Lashley was an extremely talented..."



also, Albert doesn't belong in this thread either.

[PrettyCool]

Albert sucks, he doesnt belong anywhere near the WWE ring, he should be wrestling in TNA against Robbie E or something. But I cant see why everyone hates Bobby Lashley just because he doesnt have a monster voice. He is a very talented college wrestler, he won all the championships and WWE never gave him a chance

[whiteyford]

Albert was solid enough before he went to Japan and has supposed to have improved greatly since, Lashley Wasn't underutilized he was pushed as a Main eventer but didn't get over and quit to try MMA.

[PrettyCool]

If u could change ur look to any WWE star, who would u pick?

I would choose either Lesnar or Orton, because that would be the best way to get laid, twice a day, every day! (lol!)

But seriously thats who I would choose.

What about u?

[Schlomey]

Lesnar today or Lesnar in the early 00's?


I'd pick Clox.

[itsmeJD]

Iop, you're a piece of shit, and I wish you ill.

[itsmeJD]

Albert sucks, he doesnt belong anywhere near the WWE ring, he should be wrestling in TNA against Robbie E or something. But I cant see why everyone hates Bobby Lashley just because he doesnt have a monster voice. He is a very talented college wrestler, he won all the championships and WWE never gave him a chance

Saying that the WWE never gave him a chance shows just how daft you are. Idiot.

[Jordan]

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSPXUiRlhPiR-89E6X49BqPSUEWSGgqmW06LZUJZ_PMvEgpOAN4ww

[Shadrick]

*is going to answer this seriously*

I got tired of my physique and hit the gym again. Lost 25 pounds so far. I'm only a few pounds away from "Orton" status. *legend poses*

[Jordan]

I did like the John Cena/Bobby Lashley rivalry going into Great American Bash and the subsequent match.

[Jordan]

I think I learned that word from Jr, has that ever happened to you?

[PrettyCool]

*is going to answer this seriously*

I got tired of my physique and hit the gym again. Lost 25 pounds so far. I'm only a few pounds away from "Orton" status. *legend poses*

Are u tatooed too? (post a pic?)

[dronepool]

Mae Young.

[Big Vic]

When I was younger I wanted Edge's hair.

[Schlomey]

In seriousity I don't want to LOOK like anyone but me but I would love to have a fit but not over the top body like punk or bryan.

[PrettyCool]

When I was younger I wanted Edge's hair.

Edges hair sucks, its too girly imo.

[Lock Jaw]

I kind of look like Derrick Bateman would if he was shorter, skinny, and had no muscle definition at all.

[Shadrick]

Are u tatooed too? (post a pic?)

I am actually. Several, all on my arms. None on my back though.

[Lock Jaw]

Oh wait, this is which one would you WANT to look like. Not who you look like.

Uhhh... Trent Baretta. Seems like a "normal" build that isn't too over the top. More like "Hey, that dude is in shape" instead of "HOLY SHIT THAT DUDE IS A FREAK"

[PrettyCool]

I am actually. Several, all on my arms. None on my back though.

Sweet, can u post a pic? I wanna see ur tats!!!

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Triple H's hairline.

[whiteyford]

Not Billy Gunn?

[Rammsteinmad]

PrettyCool can you post a picture of yourself?

[Rammsteinmad]

And may as well answer this question. CM Punk. The guy is ridiculously handsome and makes pretty much every hairstyle or facial hair work for him. Hasn't fucked as many Divas as he has for no reason y'know.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Not Billy Gunn?

Billy Gunn but with Triple H's hairline.

[Rammsteinmad]

What about his forehead wrinkles... whatever they're called.

[whiteyford]

You just like the shorts dont you Iggy?

[Jordan]

mabe https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS8wGW9eyVPxNMx6XLYRlqXnBGLl6DsthGHoapB4KAsFf7GM7ag

[Kris P Lettus]

Phineas Godwinn

[Lock Jaw]

Big Daddy V

[Jordan]

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/a/antonioinoki/01.jpg

plz let me wake up like this plz god

[Emperor Smeat]

Daniel Bryan just so that I could use the YES! YES! YES! chant where ever I went.

[theexample]

Shawn Michaels. I'm sick and tired of symmetrical eyes.

[Nicky Fives]

Shawn Michaels. I'm sick and tired of symmetrical eyes.

:rofl:

[Nicky Fives]

I wouldn't mind having Scott Hall's chest hair.....

[PrettyCool]

I wouldn't mind having Scott Hall's chest hair.....

:naughty:

[Rammsteinmad]

Hey PrettyCool, since you want to look like Orton or Lesnar, post a picture of yourself so we can see what you look like now.

I know what everyone else here looks like by the photoalbum, so it's easier for me to 'visualise' that person wanting to look like their chosen wrestler.

[Kris P Lettus]

I wouldn't mind having Scott Hall's chest hair.....

He's selling bag's of it on Craig's List for beer money..

[/heel heat]

[theexample]

He's selling bag's of it on Craig's List for beer money..

[/heel heat]

There has to be a hair of the dog joke there somewhere. But I'm far too lazy to think of one.

[#1-norm-fan]

Anyone who says anything other than The Rock does not care about vagina.

[RiX1024]

I used to look like CM Punk in his ROH days and a mix of Raven when he started in TNA.

[Rammsteinmad]

Prove it.

[Volare]

Ziggler.

[XL]

Yeah, that Ziggler/Orton muscular/"cut"/"shredded" but not too bulky (like Lesnar/Cena) physique is pretty ideal.

[Jura]

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd163/ctlftr/rickrudeinbluespeedo.jpg

[XL]

When I was younger I wanted Edge's hair.
You can probably have it now he cut it off.

[PrettyCool]

You can probably have it now he cut it off.
http://files.sharenator.com/cup_of_LOL_LOL-s448x394-48055-580.gif

[Rammsteinmad]

I love how PrettyCool is conviently avoiding my posts about posting a picture. Very Iop-esque. :wtf:

[PrettyCool]

I love how PrettyCool is conviently avoiding my posts about posting a picture. Very Iop-esque. :wtf:

I dont have a camera

[Rammsteinmad]

Post your Facebook profile pic.

[whiteyford]

I'm getting worried about you grooming all these clearly underage/retarded posters looking for pictures:wtf:

[Rammsteinmad]

Come to think of it WF, never seen a pic of you either.

Post a picture.

[Rammsteinmad]

I will make it worth your while :naughty:

[whiteyford]

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2131/whiteyford1953bowman.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/whiteyford1953bowman.jpg/)

[Rammsteinmad]

Looking good. :yes:

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

To answer this honestly... Either a Bret Hart of Shawn Michaels like physique. Athletic... in shape... DEAD SEXY but not over the top.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Bobby Lashley was not untalented, guys. He could have been a major star if he had the right attitude, and he would have been because the WWE was jamming him right down our throats. The thing is, the WWE was so intent on pushing Lashley as a Superman babyface that he was bland and no one really cared when he was gone.

It all went wrong at December to Dismember, when the WWE decided that the ECW World Championship (then recognised as a World Title) would go to a babyface Lashley and he would carry the brand. I can understand that the WWE thought it was too early for CM Punk, and that they didn't want to put the title on Rob Van Dam; but pushing Lashley as a face on that brand was just counter-productive. Big Show should have been the first man eliminated by CM Punk (which Show apparently agreed to, as well), before Punk tore through either both Hardcore Holly and Test, or just one while RVD pinned the other. Punk and RVD then battle, and one eliminates the other, depending on who you wanted to push into the ECW World Title program heading into WrestleMania 23. To be perfectly honest, RVD would have made more sense at that point in time. So RVD pins Punk and then Lashley enters the ring and destroys RVD for a bit, but RVD makes a comeback before Heyman intervenes somehow and Lashley wins the match and reveals that he is Heyman's new puppet in transforming ECW into an "entertainment" brand.

At the Royal Rumble, RVD is competing in the Rumble Match and proudly announces that if he wins, he intends to use the title shot to compete for the ECW World Title. RVD doesn't win the match, however, as Heyman's security troops hit the ring and toss RVD out of the match as it looks like he's about to get some momentum going.

Heading into WrestleMania, the story is that Heyman will do everything he can to keep the ECW Title on his boy, and keep RVD a thing of the past. Lashley does manage to retain the ECW Title at WrestleMania 23, and Punk still wins Money in the Bank, leading to the next year consisting of Heyman trying to convince Punk to use the title shot on another champion and leave ECW for his own good.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, WrestleMania 23 was the highest grossing WrestleMania of all-time, wasn't it? Now, I've read some differing reports on just why that is (I think some said that it cost more to order and actually got fewer buys), but it still made more money than any WrestleMania ever (unless WrestleMania XXVIII tops it). Like it or not, Bobby Lashley was a big part of that event. Not saying the buyrate falls directly onto his shoulders or anything, but I think a better case could be made for him being a draw than quite a few other guys that we champion. Just saying.

I must admit -- when I found out Brock Lesnar was returning, I did think to myself that they could have Vince McMahon challenge Donald Trump again, with Vince getting behind Brock Lesnar against Trump's representative in Bobby Lashley. It doesn't even need to be at WrestleMania, either. It could just be a stand-alone story heading towards any PPV. I'm sure, like it or not, it would do big numbers.

[Nicky Fives]

lol at that Rude pick..... simply ravishing.....

[PrettyCool]

Post your Facebook profile pic.

I dont have a facebook

[Rammsteinmad]

Kinda like Iop.

[PrettyCool]

Kinda like Iop.

Ppl act these days like EVERYONE has facebook which is not true.

[Rammsteinmad]

But you are Iop aren't you? That's true... isn't it?

Come on. Say it. SAY IT!

[Tommy Gunn]

Lashley was horrible, what the hell.

[Zeeboe]

For every Rock, Lesnar, A-Train and others that come back, guys like Ziggler, Barrett, Rhodes, Swagger, Sheamus, Ryder, Bryan etc miss out on air-time. In a few years time, when guys like the Rock, Lesnar, Undertaker, Austin, Michaels etc are well and truly done and retired, who will WWE rely on as 'big draws' when it's Wrestlemania?

So right now, should Lashley come back? No.

I wasn't even planning on watching WWE anymore, but because Lesnar is back, I will. I want the best guys for the job. I don't care about their age. I don't believe in giving young guys air-time all for the sake of them being young. Being young is not good enough. Infact, them being young is all the more reason for them to mid-card and learn the craft. I'll never understand the hard-on internet fans have for younger wrestlers. I just don't get it.

The truth is, if any of those young guys had talent, and were deserving of a top spot, they wouldn't have to be just given it. They'd be so over with the fans that WWE would have no choice but to put them over just like they did with Austin in 1997. He was never intended to be a mega babyface, but because the fans responded to him, he got his shot. That's who decides who is over or not - The fans. The voice of internet fans is not loud enough, and I think most of you guys are just parroting what you hear higher ranking net nerds say.

For the most part, I think one does need to be at least 35 or older to be a draw because most of those younger guys look too much like babies in the face I think wrestlers should have a mean and menacing look to them and not a youthful, college boy face that belongs on MTV. Guys can't look like your neighbor to be a draw for the most part, and most of these young guys don't have anything unique about them in my view. They could be in a grocery store and I wouldn't look twice at them.

It's too many young and ordinary looking wrestlers and too much of a PG cheesy "family" rating that has caused me to not even watch wrestling anymore. I honestly don't think their wrestling skills are that good and their mic skills are terrible.

I think a lot of these kids grew up in the internet age and believed all that nonsense about wrestling only being about wrestling and that it wasn't about entertainment which is a bunch of hogwash in my view. The Rock wouldn't have become famous if he didn't have a chance to cut the promos he did, and The Stone Cold/McMahon feud would not had been nearly as epic as it was if it was just about wrestling. I think wrestling and knowing how to cut a good promo are equally important.

But anyhow, these Internet marks are all indy wrestlers now and they are killing the business because they let a bunch of other internet marks who never wrestled or cut a promo in their life influence them with their BS opinions.

I think the only reason why WWE is still in business is because there is no real competition anymore and I think they went back to entertaining little kids because the people they use to target got tired of the product. I also don't think these younger wrestlers have been in the business long enough to be running things and the days of paying dues seem to be no more.

WWE is still drawing in the numbers and I think WWE will always do that, however compare the numbers to what they use to be over ten years ago. Heck, if wrestlers today are so good, how come the wrestling business still depends on the older guys to help them out? It's because the wrestlers today are not a pimple on the butt to the older wrestlers.

In my view, it takes takes five....six...maybe seven years to really "get" the business. Heck, most of the youth are washed out in three years. I don't see light at the end of the tunnel until the business changes which will be when Hunter gets old and fat!

The old school way to get to the top of the wrestling world was working your way through the tag ranks, to I.C champ, then to World champ. Now a guy like Shemus works with Triple H an is World champ after only four months of being in the business!

I also don't think that just because you've had a few birthdays that you should just stop living and that the wrestling world should discriminate against wrestlers just because they are older. All that matters is the talent and if an older wrestler has more talent then a younger wrestler, I think he should be given a title run and given plenty of attention. It's not fair to discriminate against an older wrestler who has already proven he can draw, entertain people and make the promoters money. I think giving an older guy the ball and letting him run with it is smart business and you seem to disagree with that. I don't want some untalented wrestler being the top guy if he doesn't have the talent and is only getting the ball because he happens to be young. That's not good enough in my view.


Having typed all that, do you think WWE would have honestly lasted long if they were doing a youth movement back when WCW was it it's best in 96' and 97' and happen to have mostly older wrestlers in the spotlight?

It was a bad-ass looking, 30-something year old Stone Cold that saved WWE. I know The Rock helped too and he was under 30 at the time, but he was a very rare human being.

[Wake Up Call]

Both Lashley and Lesnar are terrible. If WWE thinks that MMA fans are going to tune in to see Brock in the WWE, they have another thing coming. THe only thing MMA fans are going to do, is call Lesnar a Pussy.

[Zeeboe]

I have no opinion on Lashley since I never saw much of him, but I did see Lesnar in WWE and he's awesome, and he is going to be the reason why I and a lot of other people are going to be watching Raw this Monday.

[Pintint]

For the most part, I think one does need to be at least 35 or older to be a draw because most of those younger guys look too much like babies in the face I think wrestlers should have a mean and menacing look to them and not a youthful, college boy face that belongs on MTV. Guys can't look like your neighbor to be a draw for the most part, and most of these young guys don't have anything unique about them in my view. They could be in a grocery store and I wouldn't look twice at them.

Kozlov had a mean and menacing look and was older, but he didn't get over.

Why?

He was also unique in both his ring style and in general.

[Damian Rey]

I dont necessarily believe guys should be "older" or in their 30s with years of experience under their belt just to get pushed. There should be several variables that come into play when getting a push, with the biggest one being whether ir not they are over with crowd. CM Punk us definately over with the current live crowds. They pop for his music, his shirts can be spotted everywhere and there are always signs supporting him. Hes a damn fine talker and.a damn talented wrestler. Other than mot being a jacked up behemoth, Punk has got a total package.

Austin and Rock and.HHH and Taker, etc got over because they were given opportuities and interesting angles that made fans care. Nobody gave two shits about Austin when he debuted. It wasnt until he was allowed to cut an edgy promo that revealed the kind of talent he had. If rt ou give fans.a reason to care, they will, and the response will merit the push, regardless of age.

[whiteyford]

The old school way to get to the top of the wrestling world was working your way through the tag ranks, to I.C champ, then to World champ. Now a guy like Shemus works with Triple H an is World champ after only four months of being in the business!


The business exists outside of WWE,he didnt just magically appear and make his debut on WWE television.

[Zeeboe]

What he did before in WWE shouldn't matter nor should it count. When he came to WWE, it was a fresh slate and things should be done the WWE way and only the WWE way. I never even heard of the guy. It's not like WCW was still around and he was huge there so he didn't deserve that mega push.

[whiteyford]

Of course it should or really by that logic everyone should start at the bottom regardless of their tenure elsewhere and you end up like WCW with guys who were in the main event 10-15 years ago still in the main event. It worked wonders for them.

[James Steele]

What he did before in WWE shouldn't matter nor should it count. When he came to WWE, it was a fresh slate and things should be done the WWE way and only the WWE way. I never even heard of the guy. It's not like WCW was still around and he was huge there so he didn't deserve that mega push.

He was in ECW for months, got traded to RAW, and got a push. It isn't 1994 anymore you creepy sack of shit.

[Tom Guycott]

Bath turd.

It took 52 posts for someone to mention this in a Bobby Lashley thread.

I am disappoint.

[Zeeboe]

He was in ECW for months, got traded to RAW, and got a push. It isn't 1994 anymore you creepy sack of shit.

Pot, meet Kettle. Anyhow, I never watched WWE's ECW. Infact, who really did? Which is why it was canned in due time. And fuck you, you pretentious, judgemental asshole.

[James Steele]

No, fuck you, you pathetic waste of intelligence.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The OP is a Bathturd.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Bath turd.

Fuck I didn't read the thread just wrote bathturd at the first page, but at least I made it an insult too.

Lashley killed ECWWE. Fuck him. ECWWE was pretty good before he came around.

[whiteyford]

Pot, meet Kettle. Anyhow, I never watched WWE's ECW. Infact, who really did? Which is why it was canned in due time. And fuck you, you pretentious, judgemental asshole.

It drew higher ratings than TNA is currently,was promoted on RAW & Smackdown and had featured matches on PPVs including Wrestlemania...so more than a few folk were exposed to it.

[Autobahn]

I would like to hear Smokeys take on this.

[Joe Kerr]

remember that week lashly was in tna , yeah not many do.

[PrettyCool]

Its RYBACK vs EZEKIEL.

That would be intense...to say the least.

WWE finally has me excited about their product again with guys like Ryback debuting.

[Shadrick]

The promos would be amazing.

[PrettyCool]

Ezekiel : Ryback, Ive watched u dominate week after week but what ur forgetting is that im the real dominator here because this is what u call domination, its a combination

Ryback : Shut your mouth, chimney boy. If you think, if you think for a second that you have a chance at beat me, you are sadly making an error of epic proportions!

Ezekiel : Epic proportions is what im all about u punk ass wannabe cowboy remember that?

Ryback : Shut up remember that kid Brian who used to boss u around?

Ezekiel : What u had a crush on him or somethin, fag?

Ryback : Shut up the one here whose a fag is you!

*they fight now*

[Kane Knight]

Ezekiel : What u had a crush on him or somethin, fag?

Good to know you're busting out the A-List material.

Though, to be fair, it was still a better promo than anything Noid's ever written.

[Cuse8]

ziggler vs ANYONE! for the love of god put this man in a meaningful story line!

[PrettyCool]

ziggler vs ANYONE! for the love of god put this man in a meaningful story line!

Dolph Ziggler walks out on a random Raw.

Dolph Ziggler : I am sick and tired of this company! You bring the rock back! You bring Brock back! But what about those who have been busting our balls to be the best there ever was? Well I know. We need to take action. We need to take care of Brock and Rock. I am the assassin, Dolph Ziggler and, Rock, Brock, I'm comin for yo losers!

Ziggler then tries to kill Brock/Rock is funny ways like dropping weights on them.

[addy2hotty]

If Ziggles wears a cape and 'assassinates' people from the rafters, then bends over their body and says 'requiescat in pace', then I'm in.

[PrettyCool]

She is SO HOT. Probably hottest woman in popular entertainment these days. She is like...perfect at least in terms of looks. I dunno if shes dumb, but I think WWE can do a LOT more stuff with her, make her the top diva, have her be featured in WWE films, push her more so she becomes well known outside of wrestling.

Its not that hard considering how jaw droppingly perfectly gorgeous she is.

So, why isnt WWE making Maryse the focus of their women?

Maybe stephs jeallous is what Im thinking :naughty:

[Xero]

She's not under contract.

[Shadrick]

Xero, furious at you for responding legitimately.

[Xero]

Sorry.

MARYSE IS HOTTZ BUT ID RATHER HAVE SUM OF DAT KHARMA ASZZZSGUHBZUGHZ BHJH BSbj

[PrettyCool]

WTF Maryse was released? I didnt know this :(

This is what I get for not watching on a regular basis.

WWE messed up bad :(

I cant believe horrible manbeasts Bellas are around while Maryse got fired.

[Shadrick]

She asked for her release.

[PrettyCool]

I am legitimately upset now. :(

Maryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyse

:( :( :(

[itsmeJD]

WTF Maryse was released? I didnt know this :(

This is what I get for not watching on a regular basis.

WWE messed up bad :(

I cant believe horrible manbeasts Bellas are around while Maryse got fired.

Bella twins are leaving too...so there ya go. Maybe you should stick to Discussion since you don't watch and have no fucking clue as to what is going on.

[Next Big Thing]

He has no fucking clue what's going on when he posts there either. Maybe he should just go away.

[PrettyCool]

He has no fucking clue what's going on when he posts there either. Maybe he should just go away.

Maybe YOU should go away?

[itsmeJD]

He has no fucking clue what's going on when he posts there either. Maybe he should just go away.

LOL, I just don't frequent Discussion as often...:D

[PrettyCool]

Bella twins are leaving too...so there ya go. Maybe you should stick to Discussion since you don't watch and have no fucking clue as to what is going on.

I do watch I watched RAW today SOMEBODY CALL YO MOMMA!

[St. Jimmy]

Didn't she dye her hair and change her name to Aksana?

[PrettyCool]

Didn't she dye her hair and change her name to Aksana?

Nah, Aksana isnt even in her league.

[itsmeJD]

WTF Maryse was released? I didnt know this :(

This is what I get for not watching on a regular basis.

WWE messed up bad :(

I cant believe horrible manbeasts Bellas are around while Maryse got fired.

Read your own fucking words retard. You don't watch enough to know that Maryse has been gone for months...

[PrettyCool]

Read your own fucking words retard. You don't watch enough to know that Maryse has been gone for months...

Why r u so mad? Take the hockey stick out of your bum, nerd.

[itsmeJD]

Why r u so mad? Take the hockey stick out of your bum, nerd.

I'm not mad, simply stating a fact using profanity. You're fucking retarded....and even then I'm insulting the mentally challenged by comparing you to them, but it's the closest correlation I've got at the moment.

[PrettyCool]

I'm not mad, simply stating a fact using profanity. You're fucking retarded....and even then I'm insulting the mentally challenged by comparing you to them, but it's the closest correlation I've got at the moment.

Youre insulting yourself because everyone sees that ur just a mad little dickhead who thinks hes playing a mad diss game but is not a real player, just a nerd whos frustrated at the world for sucking dicks.

:n:

[itsmeJD]

Youre insulting yourself because everyone sees that ur just a mad little dickhead who thinks hes playing a mad diss game but is not a real player, just a nerd whos frustrated at the world for sucking dicks.

:n:

The prosecution rests, your Honor.

[PrettyCool]

The prosecution rests, your Honor.

Yeah I rest my balls on your face.

[itsmeJD]

OOoooooooooo BURN!!!! :shifty: :nono:

[dingdongyo]

I am legitimately upset now. :(

Maryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyse

:( :( :(

you have the internet. the solution to all your problems. and the cause of most of ours.

[Perry Saturn]

you have the internet. the solution to all your problems. and the cause of most of ours.

:y:

[PrettyCool]

Actually we need a Ryback Vs Ezekiel Vs Mason Ryan feud.

[Mooияakeя™]

PrettyCool - @wwecreative ?

[Indifferent Clox]

Elimination chamber
Big show v fukasorous v Mason Ryan v Ezekiel Jackson v ryback v lord tensai


Notice how Cole made fun of Khalis wrestling ability last night

[U Know?]

Ryback vs Barry Stevens in a hell in cell match. I think he deserves a rematch and this time he will win. u know?

[Indifferent Clox]

Nice gimmick.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Good to know you're busting out the A-List material.

Though, to be fair, it was still a better promo than anything Noid's ever written.

You've got such a crush on me, fag.

[PrettyCool]

You've got such a crush on me, fag.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[PrettyCool]

I dunno, I think he wasnt that bad and with the popularity of MMA, I think they could've made an MMA character for him, sorta like ken Shamrock. I think Kozlov couldve done a lot more in the WWE, he was solid enough in the ring, good and agile/fast for a big man and decent on microphone. WWE was too quick to turn him into a joke character imo and that HHH feud really hurt him.

[Juan]

No

[Chavo Classic]

He didn't have 'the look' of a 21st century main eventer; maybe back in 70's and 80's but not now. From my memory, he looked clumsy and sluggish in the ring.

[Juan]

They gave him a chance when he feuded with HHH and was in the main event picture on SD for a bit and he couldn't get over.

[Lock Jaw]

They tried to make him a main event guy and it did not take.

He was perfect in his odd couple tag team with Santino, though.

[Emperor Smeat]

Was it him or someone else where they had plans for a mega push without realizing how "green" he was in the ring which ended up killing any plans for a big push?

I know in the past they've killed a push after Vince saw for the first time how small a wrestler was in comparison to all the talk about him.

[screech]

Always thought he was pretty awful, really.

[GD]

Loved his entrance music

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/59bOhk9fnA4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Lock Jaw]

Ya, Bring Your Stupid Ball

[Lock Jaw]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/bUYlT2etI2I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[GD]

He was okay as Santino's sidekick. Also felt like he looked like a bulked up giant Lance Storm.

[Damian Rey]

Agree with the 80s villian comment. Kozlov had one,match I enjoyed, and it was a short, fast paced brawl fest against Festus.

Other than that, Kozlov didnt have much going for him and once it was realuzed it went south for him.

[MoFo]

lol remember when WWE trolled everyone and said Jeff Hardy OD'd so it was gonna be Kozlov v HHH at Survivor Series

[KIRA]

lol remember when WWE trolled everyone and said Jeff Hardy OD'd so it was gonna be Kozlov v HHH at Survivor Series


Really they said that? I wish I could remember that.

[XCaliber]

I'm probably one of the few peeps that he possbily had the potential to be a main event guy for a least a short term but they went and turned him into a comedy act instead which was a huge mistake.

[Droford]

I hope the Russia crowd tonight/last night did a "Where's Kozlov" or "we want kozlov" chant in Russian.

[Damian Rey]

I dont get what there was to ruin. The audience just didnt care about him. He beat the Undertaker clean on SmackDown for Christ's sake. If the fans dont get into you after that, what else is there?

[Team Sheep]

I didn't mind him, but yeah he had chances and it didn't happen for him. He even had a clean win over the Undertaker.

[McLegend]

He sucked

[Droford]

they should have just kept shoving him down our throats coughbrodusclaylordtensairybaccough as the moscow mauler instead of turning him into the moscow joke

[dronepool]

I liked him. Not on a "YES!" level but on I basically thought- "Oh cool, he's Russian, he has a "bad ass" gimmick and his music is cool". He should have stuck around to be a mid-carder with some enforcer gimmick or something.

[MoFo]

Really they said that? I wish I could remember that.

http://www.wwe.com/shows/survivorseries/2008/exclusives/8720674

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/wrestling/1969542/Joel-Ross-is-offended-by-Jeff-Hardy-storyline.html?print=yes

[FourFifty]

He could have been a hired gun, or a guy who has a manager. On his own, he's just crap.

[Aaronp43]

Yes they did

[Aaronp43]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gun5BF0aGCo

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kozlov was best when he was with Santino Marella. I can't believe people want to take the highlight of his career away from him.

[RiX1024]

Kozlov had the look and build plus an athletic background, but a generic Russian heel wouldn't work today as Chavo Classic said, plus I didn't buy him as a face.

[Tommy Gunn]

He was given the opportunity, but sadly he didn't really get over.

Also, Santino needed to break away from tag wrestling to freshen his character up (which led to a U.S title push and assistant to GM position) so Kozlov was pretty much done for anyway.

[Shisen Kopf]

They shoulda teamed him up with Great Khali. Just think of the five star matches they woulda had with the Usos!

[PrettyCool]

These guys are UNBELIVABLY awesome and IMO could revitalize the WWE tag division.

<IFRAME height=315 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/duB03KWPkBE" frameBorder=0 width=560 allowfullscreen></IFRAME>

AMAZING promo, these guys should be in the WWE.

[whiteyford]

Take away the blade jobs and high spots and i dont see them getting used properly

[PrettyCool]

Their promos alone are worth more than WWEs whole tag division!

[Nicky Fives]

that promo was far from amazing..... I only undertood what one guy said.....

[Ermaximus]

As good as they are, WWE would just fuck up any real chance they have to shine.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I prefer the team of Jerry and Jack Brisco. They had a damn good run in the 70s and held multiple NWA tag team championships.

[PrettyCool]

I prefer the team of Jerry and Jack Brisco. They had a damn good run in the 70s and held multiple NWA tag team championships.

lol but could they cut promos?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Jerry and Jack Brisco cut some damn good promos during the 70s in Georgia Championship Wrestling.

[KIRA]

Wow that sucked those two are more marble mouthed than al yankovics nirvana parody.


Couldn't understand a damn word I really hope thats just their characters cause if its real then Jesus Christ.

And whats with all these WWE should use/invest/capitalize on threads coming out lately?

[Ermaximus]

lol but could they cut promos?

You have much to learn about old school wrestling dude.

[CSL]

quite like the Briscoes since they amped up the redneck stuff, they could fill a role for Vince in the "current climate"

[edyhdrawde]

I like the Briscoes, but if they went to the WWE in less than six months they would be fueding with eachother, one would get pushed, the other dropped.

[FourFifty]

I prefer the team of Jerry and Jack Brisco. They had a damn good run in the 70s and held multiple NWA tag team championships.

:D

[KIRA]

Originally Posted by Seth82 View Post
I prefer the team of Jerry and Jack Brisco. They had a damn good run in the 70s and held multiple NWA tag team championships.



Quoted for truth

[Innovator]

WWE GOTS TO MAN UP

[Cuse8]

dem boysssss!!!

[PrettyCool]

It would be epic!!!

[Indifferent Clox]

"Stop" says David otunga,
Making sandow mad.
threads of shame on his bearded face

[Indifferent Clox]

That's my heel haiku

[Indifferent Clox]

Crap that last line has 8 syllables

[XL]

I find their promos awful. Maybe the whole redneck thing doesn't translate well across the channel?

[whiteyford]

You just now they'd get Honkeytonk man as their manager or someone equally as southern, end up as the modern day version of the Godwinns.

[Innovator]

I'm kinda curious to see if Mark would pass a health screening first.

[whiteyford]

Kinda assumed one of them had failed,theres always rumours of WWE showing interest then nothing.

[itsmeJD]

You just now they'd get Honkeytonk man as their manager or someone equally as southern, end up as the modern day version of the Godwinns.

Give em Col. Rob Parker and a hilbilly song...that'll git em over.

[XL]

Y'know, Hillbilly Jim was on Super SmackDown last week, he must be on good terms...

[Dave Youell]

It gives me a sour taste in the mouth to even suggest it, but.

They should go to TNA

At least their they have a recent history of actually caring about tag wrestling, in the WWE they won’t get used properly. Hell tag wrestling the WWE hasn’t meant shit since the Smackdown 6 got broken up

[Rammsteinmad]

Their promos alone are worth more than WWEs whole tag division!

No way is that promo worth more than Primo and Epico!

[whiteyford]

Or more importantly Rosa

[James Steele]

I understand every word they said. I'm not crazy on the gimmick though.

[PrettyCool]

These guys are amazing, I wish I could talk like 'em, no joke. Aint be none o 'em problem if I could talk like one o 'em boyz right dere.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

U know they have sex with attractive women all the time.

[whiteyford]

They have beards Supreme,of course they have seks all the time

[St. Jimmy]

Briscoes are the goods.

[Kapoutman]

I understand every word they said. I'm not crazy on the gimmick though.

You're from Texas.

[Innovator]

These guys are amazing, I wish I could talk like 'em, no joke. Aint be none o 'em problem if I could talk like one o 'em boyz right dere.

Start killing chickens.

[PrettyCool]

U know they have sex with attractive women all the time.

Thats why I said if I was more like 'em, I'd be getting laid.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I likes The Briscoes as a team, but I just can't see them in the WWE climate. Never could. Chris Hero & Claudio Castagnoli? Not a problem seeing them as a WWE team; but for whatever reason, I just can't picture The Briscoes in the WWE.

Dave Youell is correct in saying that TNA have longer cared about tag team wrestling, and there's more of a chance for them to make a splash there. The matches with The Motor City Machines Guns alone would be worth watching TNA. And then there's also the bouts with Magnus & Samoa Joe. Yeah, those would be cool, too.

[Dave Youell]

Start killing chickens.

That's right boys, hit them in the head!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They will be tag team car mechanics.

[XL]

I think they could have something to offer but only as part of a wider emphasis on the Tag Division, in no way would they "revitalize" the Tag scene by themseves.

As part of a division along the lines of:

The Dudley Boyz (who are rumoured to be headed back to WWE or failing that rehire Billy Gunn and bring back the Outlaws for a few months)
The Kings of Wrestling
Epico & Primo w/ Rosa
DiBiase & McGillicutty
The Usos
Reks & Hawkins
Jack Swagger & Alex Riley w/ "Coach" Ross (a heel J.R.)
Johnny Curtis & Derrick Bateman
Tyson Kidd & Justin Gabriel or Kidd & Kofi or Kofi & Gabriel

Take some/all of those teams, give them promo time, a gimmick/purpose/angle and I think Tag Team wrestling might start to mean something again.

[Dukelorange]

5 7 5 is the formula for haiku right?

[Indifferent Clox]

Oh damn. I did 7 5 8 Shit...

[Dukelorange]

I want to try one...

[PHBro]

I liked Haku. Remembber him? think he was called Mong or something in the WCW

[Shisen Kopf]

Jesus Christ, meeting of the minds here.

[MoFo]

Damien Sandow should have a verbal debate with Vince, where he fires the boring cunt.

[Gertner]

Oh damn. I did 7 5 8 Shit...

Shocking that your Grade 8 education missed that. Maybe your online nursing degree will build those skills.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Damien Sandow should have a verbal debate with Vince, where he fires the boring cunt.

Why would Damien Sandow fire Vince? That would not be very gracious of him.