MLB 2013 Thread

[Boomer]

Kimbrel has been way shakier than most people know. He's basically an All-Star lock at this point, but this has been his most inconsistent year just from the games I've watched (which I haven't missed many this year). He's been far from automatic.

[DaveWadding]

Ah, it's the most conflicting week of the year.

[Corndad]

Bucs hold on to win vs Nats but might lose Grilli tonight. Damn Sports Illustrated Cover Jinx.

[Corndad]

Also... Screw you Ryan Braun. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Hanso Amore]

Braun is a scumbag. Love that Logan tweet.

Fucking liar dragged a man through the dirt to get his failed test overturned. Ad he was guilty all along.

[The Condor]

Can't wait to see A-Rod and Melky fry

[Hanso Amore]

Same.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Sources tell <a href="https://twitter.com/OTLonESPN">@OTLonESPN</a> evidence on A-Rod far beyond evidence v Braun. Charges expected to include accusation he interfered w investigation.</p>&mdash; T.J. Quinn (@TJQuinnESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJQuinnESPN/statuses/359486828476248064">July 23, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[DaveWadding]

REports are saying Alfonso Soriano to the Yankees.

Thanks for the greatest night of my life, dude.

[Bad News Gertner]

Can't wait to see A-Rod and Melky fry

Can we speed up the process and get Melky's worthless ass off the Jays. Take Arencibia with him.

[DaveBrawl]

Things are not well when a team that hasn't scored a run in 37 innings beats you 3-1.

[Frank Drebin]

Braun only gets 65 games. Should have gotten the full hundred.

Not sure how his suspension doesn't go into next season. Really put your foot down on this one, MLB. Last place team gets its best player suspended and will get a better draft pick because of it.

[Bad News Gertner]

Plus his contract increases next season so he's saving money doing his time now.

[Innovator]

REports are saying Alfonso Soriano to the Yankees.

Thanks for the greatest night of my life, dude.
IT'S THE CIIIIIIIIIIIIRCLE OF LIIIIIIIIIIFE

[The Condor]

REports are saying Alfonso Soriano to the Yankees.

Thanks for the greatest night of my life, dude.

This is unfortunately a boon to the Yankees offense if it happens. Pronk needs to ride the pine and Soriano will be DHing.

[Frank Drebin]

Do the Yanks have a mid-level catching or pitching prospect for the Cubs? How's an Austin Romaine doing these days in the eyes of Yanks brass?

[The Condor]

Do the Yanks have a mid-level catching or pitching prospect for the Cubs? How's an Austin Romaine doing these days in the eyes of Yanks brass?

Romine is nowhere near what he was touted as. I have a feeling we might try to dish Cervelli if there is a catcher involved :naughty:

[ClockShot]

Fonzie coming back to the Yankees?! I don't know if I should get the Welcome Back, Kotter or Happy Days theme cued up and ready to go if this goes down.

[Skippord]

Things are not well when a team that hasn't scored a run in 37 innings beats you 3-1.
in fairness I think a team of the last 9 people to post in this thread could score against Drew Pomeranz

[DaveBrawl]

Inno hits in the 4 slot.

But yeah it's like the PTI guys said yesterday, Miami should have just stood there and swung at nothing and he probably would have walked in at least one run.

[DaveBrawl]

Wadding
Smelly Meatball
Gertner
Crazy Edgar
Frank Drebin
Skippord
Inno
Clockshot
myself

Probably Marlins worthy lineup right there.

[Skippord]

Inno hits in the 4 slot.

But yeah it's like the PTI guys said yesterday, Miami should have just stood there and swung at nothing and he probably would have walked in at least one run.
Adeiny Hechavaria swung at the second pitch of the game that was at least a foot out of the zone and then struck out and I was like "maybe it'll be different this time" then I left the room and when I came back he had already given up a run

[DaveWadding]

DBrawl, I hope you wouldn't put it in that specific order...

[DaveBrawl]

No just the order I remembered the names counting back through the last 9 different people in here.

Smeat
Skippord
Gertner
Inno
would be the 1st 4, after that we draw straws...just like the current Marlins do.

[DaveBrawl]

I'm just guessing at that, I'm assuming Smelly Meatball is an ironic name and he's wiry and fast.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Dustin Pedroia's deal may be Boston's 4th $100M+ contract. Other 3 players were all traded to the Dodgers (Ramirez, Gonzalez, Crawford).</p>&mdash; ESPN Stats &amp; Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/statuses/359765652933849088">July 23, 2013</a></blockquote>
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I'm just guessing at that, I'm assuming Smelly Meatball is an ironic name and he's wiry and fast.
Somewhat of a slow runner and suck at sports so 9th hitter makes more sense.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm fairly fast. Probably can't do much else though. I volunteer as a pinch runner.</font>

[Boomer]

I got my nickname from playing baseball, but once kids started throwing breaking stuff, I couldn't hit anymore. Made a pitcher cry one time when I hit a long home run to center field (basically my career highlight). Played catcher mostly, some outfield. I was the worst pitcher imaginable; in little league I believe I hit four kids in one inning before being taken out.

[The Condor]

Hit 2-3 in high school and my power didn't come until senior year. Big OBP guy and Im not sure but I think my BIP (Roberts) is above average.

[screech]

once kids started throwing breaking stuff, I couldn't hit anymore.

Pedro Cerrano

[RoXer]

We already did this y'all..

http://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?t=117979

[Emperor Smeat]

USA Today is reporting A-Rod won't be facing a suspension but instead a lifetime ban now that he's pulled out of all negotiations with MLB. Also confirms earlier speculation that he was indeed the person who tried to bribe the clinic owner to get all his documents pulled and destroyed.
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2013/7/23/4550722/alex-rodriguez-suspension-mlb-biogenesis-deal/in/4314783



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Orioles acquire Francisco Rodriguez from Brewers for minor leaguer Nick Delmonico. K-Rod's 304 saves are 3rd among active players.</p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/statuses/359828373314355202">July 24, 2013</a></blockquote>
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According to Peter Gammons, the choice was between the Red Sox and Os for the trade deal. Brewers took the Os deal.

[Frank Drebin]

I'm fine hitting 5th and bashing 35 dingers as long as yer ok with all the k's

[RoXer]

What's a good website to compare head to head records over the entire lifetime of two franchises?

[Frank Drebin]

farmersonly.com

[Frank Drebin]

or try

http://www.baseball-reference.com/games/head2head.shtml

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>No chance A-Rod gets a lifetime ban. I'd see him getting 100 games at the most.</font>

[RoXer]

god damnit i knew that existed somewhere eon baseball ref i just couldn't find it

thank you

[Frank Drebin]

Yah, you gatta start by going to farmersonly.com and follow the link from there.

[Frank Drebin]

god damnit i knew that existed somewhere eon baseball ref i just couldn't find it

thank you

NP, watchya lookin' for?

[RoXer]

NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS OBAMA

(curious on early 00's record between d-backs-giants)

[Bad News Gertner]

God damn Blue Jays

[Frank Drebin]

At least Ricky Romero look like he's turned a cor.......never mind.

[Damian Rey]

Highly doubt ARod gets the Pete Rose ban, here. 100 seems like it might be out of the question if he either sued or really pushed the issue. Having your name on a piece, or pieces, of paper isn't evidence. Braun had actually failed a drug test. ARod has not. He did admit to PED use, but that's not failing a test. I don't see MLB having a strong case here if ARod puts up a fight and shoves back.

[Bad News Gertner]

At least Ricky Romero look like he's turned a cor.......never mind.

Hahaha poor Ricky. Didn't make it out of the second inning last night

[Frank Drebin]

He's gonna be the next Scott Kazmir / Dontrelle Wills type. The guy who eventually gets cut by half the league.

[The Condor]

Gyroball: The answer to Ricky Romero's problems.

[The Condor]

Jason Grilli to the DL. Might be a very big loss for the Pirates, but I think Melancon can carry the load in the interim.

[Innovator]

Highly doubt ARod gets the Pete Rose ban, here. 100 seems like it might be out of the question if he either sued or really pushed the issue. Having your name on a piece, or pieces, of paper isn't evidence. Braun had actually failed a drug test. ARod has not. He did admit to PED use, but that's not failing a test. I don't see MLB having a strong case here if ARod puts up a fight and shoves back.
I think they're going with the fact that A-Rod tried to hide documents/tampering with evidence/being A-Rod.

[DaveBrawl]

It's kind of sad/funny how A-Rod has gone from the all American squeaky clean face of baseball on pace to break the evil Barry Bonds homerun record through hard work and ability alone, to potentially being banned for life in like 2 or 3 years.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It's kind of sad/funny how A-Rod has gone from the all American squeaky clean face of baseball on pace to break the evil Barry Bonds homerun record through hard work and ability alone, to potentially being banned for life in like 2 or 3 years.

He was always a cheating cunt. Yelling at that 3rd Baseman to drop the pop-up and swatting the glove out of Arroyo's hand. Although if he gets a lifetime ban it's only because they want to nail his balls to the wall because they couldn't get shit on Barry Bonds.

[screech]

Why do you think him yelling at the 3B was cheating?

[Triple Naitch]

I'm trying to decide when A-Rod made his heel turn. Was it when he left Seattle for the largest contract ever with a division rival? Was it when he told the Rangers they can't win and demanded a trade even though he took up half the payroll? Was it the swat on Bronson Arroyo?

[Triple Naitch]

Probably when this was taken.

http://www.jamespreller.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/alex_rodriguez.jpg

[ClockShot]

I'm trying to decide when A-Rod made his heel turn. Was it when he left Seattle for the largest contract ever with a division rival? Was it when he told the Rangers they can't win and demanded a trade even though he took up half the payroll? Was it the swat on Bronson Arroyo?

When he opted out of his deal DURING the World Series and suckered Cashman into giving him that insanely bad contract.

[McLegend]

Poor Cashman.

[McLegend]

i love every A-Rod story

[Evil Vito]

When he opted out of his deal DURING the World Series and suckered Cashman into giving him that insanely bad contract.

<font color=goldenrod>I'll never forget that. Just a few outs away from the World Series being over. "Alex Rodriguez has announced that he will opt out." what a tool.

Though to A-Rod's credit he did say Boras made that announcement without consulting him and regrets it.</font>

[Triple Naitch]

When he opted out of his deal DURING the World Series and suckered Cashman into giving him that insanely bad contract.

It was definitely before that.

[Emperor Smeat]

Could also blame Fox Sports as well for that debacle since they were the ones in charge of showing the World Series that year and wasted no time making the announcement once Boras sent it. Had ESPN or anyone else not showing the game revealed the announcement, it probably wouldn't have been ridiculed as hard as it was because Fox did it.

Could swear he had another heelish moment between the Rangers era and 1st year with the Yanks involving him ridiculing other players on their lack of free time and the backlash from those players who stated they had kids to take care of unlike him.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>OH GOD Eric Young Jr. just murdered Tim Hudson's ankle :( That didn't look good</font>

[Boomer]

It's fractured. Out for the year :(

At least it wasn't an ACL tear?

[road doggy dogg]

Being a starting pitcher has got to be the most goddamn frustrating thing in all of sports sometimes.

Strasburg's line today: 8.0 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 12 K..... and a loss.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Why do you think him yelling at the 3B was cheating?

Maybe it isn't an illegal play but it's a bitch move. He's a bitch. He deserves everything he gets and more.

Totally agreement on Clock on the opting out deal. His team doesn't even make the playoffs because he didn't play great and Torre is blamed and fired.

[Evil Vito]

It's fractured. Out for the year :(

At least it wasn't an ACL tear?

<font color=goldenrod>Even though he's been a Mets killer for seemingly his entire Braves tenure, I hope this doesn't spell the end for Hudson's career at age 38. Would be such a shitty way for anybody to go out, much less Hudson who's always come across as a nice guy along with being well respected.</font>

[Boomer]

Even though he's been a Mets killer for seemingly his entire Braves tenure, I hope this doesn't spell the end for Hudson's career at age 38. Would be such a shitty way for anybody to go out, much less Hudson who's always come across as a nice guy along with being well respected.

Had the same thought. May be his final pitch for Atlanta too...I'm not sure he fits into the Braves' plans long-term considering the logjam of starters we are having. Maybe he'll come back on a quasi-hometown discount...I doubt that's how he wants to go out.

[screech]

Maybe it isn't an illegal play but it's a bitch move. He's a bitch. He deserves everything he gets and more.

Totally agreement on Clock on the opting out deal. His team doesn't even make the playoffs because he didn't play great and Torre is blamed and fired.

That play was hilarious, though. He's still a shithead, and was before the opt out, but that play shouldn't be a main reason why.

[The Condor]

Yeah.... So the national sports media is really latching on to this A-Roid stuff.

[ClockShot]

Cubs gave Fonzie 2-3 days to approve the trade to the Yankees.

No word yet on who the Yankees got to go over in exchange.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Biogenesis clinic's whistle-blower, expect more leagues to consider getting their hands on those documents once the stuff with MLB is done. The actual list of clients the clinic has includes almost every major sport in the US and has people who've been clients for years.

Porter Fischer, the former Biogenesis of Miami clinic employee who turned boxes of documents over to the Miami New Times last year, declined to name the athletes. But in his first television interview, Fischer told "Outside the Lines" that numerous sports had at least one athlete that received performance-enhancing drugs from clinic founder Tony Bosch.

"This isn't a 2013 thing or a 2012 thing; some of these people have been on the books since 2009," Fischer said.

Fischer said he and associates have identified athletes from the NBA, NCAA, professional boxing, tennis and MMA, in addition to other professional baseball players who have not yet been identified. As far as he knows, he said, Bosch had no clients from the NFL or NHL.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9508288/biogenesis-whistleblower-broke-open-scandal-says-ncaa-mma-nba-other-athletes-used-clinic-mlb-investigation

[Ermaximus]

It's fractured. Out for the year :(

At least it wasn't an ACL tear?

Does this mean we can get Beachey back now? Please!

[Frank Drebin]

Cubs gave Fonzie 2-3 days to approve the trade to the Yankees.

No word yet on who the Yankees got to go over in exchange.

A-Rod

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It's just crazy enough to work!

[ClockShot]

Worked the first time.

[ClockShot]

Fonzie got scratched from today's game. Looks like the deal's going down.

[road doggy dogg]

Why hasn't anyone told me that there's a reliever named Billy Buckner on the Angels?! God baseball is funniest sport ever.

[Bad News Gertner]

Jays better win at least 2 out of 3.

[Innovator]

It scares me how happy Soriano coming back home makes me.

[Frank Drebin]

So Brent Lillibridge and Soriano will be starting for the Yanks. That worked very well for the Cubs this year.

[Frank Drebin]

Cody Ransom hitting cleanup tonight. Good times.

Spring Training 2015, woooooo!

[Frank Drebin]

Jose Canseco is endorsing this now:

http://buyht.com/images/josec.gif

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol it's so blindingly obvious that the Yankees are hoping A-Rod gets suspended before they have to bring him back. Wouldn't be surprised if A-Rod tries to file a grievance or something against them once the hammer comes down.</font>

[Bad News Gertner]

Thank you Mark Buehrle

[Skippord]

the first time in my life the Rockies pitching is incredible and the offense is a giant trainwreck

[road doggy dogg]

It's amazing what'll happen when you're not trying to use a 4-man rotation!

Also, I thought the Rockies had like, one of the best offenses in the league this year? What happened? (I don't follow/care about the NL so I only hear about teams like the Rockies in passing)

[Skippord]

They still bizarrely won't let pitchers go over a hundred pitches most of the time like they did with the four man rotation, but fortunately 3 of the 5 have been throwing 7 innings before going over a hundred.

And with the offense my personal belief is that when Tulo and Dexter Fowler got hurt everyone but Michael Cuddyer tried to do too much and they're still in that sort of mode. So they're taking bad at bats and mostly struggling, and now Michael Cuddyer's struggling a bit. Tulo doesn't seem to be fully ready to play yet and Dexter Fowler is the streakiest hitter on the planet. Also Carlos Gonzalez while still the best hitter on the team has like 15 different minor injuries that are messing up his swing and his approach. So basically at the moment no one is performing consistently on offense besides D.J. Lemahieu for some reason.

[ClockShot]

AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

Yankees gave up some nobody a-ball pitcher for Fonzie.

Game's gonna be awesome tonight!

[Innovator]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[The Condor]

The Hudson injury made me think back to the Big 3 in Oakland. Used to think that you could tell a lot about someone by knowing which of them they thought as the best. I always sided with the Hudson crowd.

[DaveBrawl]

I always sided with Zito, then he stabs me in the back by joining the Giants.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

As long as you didn't think it was Mulder, that ass-burglar.

[RoXer]

I dunno about any of them but I hear this Rich Harden kid is gunna be a stud

[ClockShot]

I've said once, I'll say it again.

CC Sabathia is no longer superhuman.

[Keith]

We're on our way to 1st place, baby.

On our way.

[road doggy dogg]

I've said once, I'll say it again.

CC Sabathia is no longer superhuman.

Kuroda is the Scherzer to Sabathia's Verlander this season. What is wrong with the universe!

[road doggy dogg]

I probably screwed up the analogy there. What I meant to say is, Kuroda (#2 guy) is outperforming Sabathia (#1) similarly to how Scherzer has leapfrogged JV this season. Yeah.

[Emperor Smeat]

Multiple teams are making a late run at the Philadelphia Phillies with offers for pitcher Cliff Lee as Wednesday's trade deadline nears, baseball sources told ESPN.com Friday.
ESPN considers him as the top pitcher available going into this year's deadline although Ervin Santana could end up ahead of him if the Royals steep demands get met.


Turns out the Biogenisis Clinic roids scandal goes deeper than just pro and college since high school baseball prospect names also show up on the lists MLB has access to.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9512043/whistle-blower-documents-show-high-school-players-received-peds-tony-bosch-biogenesis-clinic-sources-say

[The Condor]

By ahead you mean he might move first, right? You're not referring to talent I hope.

[Emperor Smeat]

No just in what's being asked for demands since the Royals are currently asking for a steep price and probably steeper than what the Phillies want from Lee.

Royals want MLB-ready talent as the basis for any deal while the Phillies probably want deals to be more prospect-based or someone willing to cover what's left of Lee's current deal.

[screech]

Would hate to see Cliff Lee get traded. Again.

[Bad News Gertner]

Edwin Encarnacion just hit 2 home runs in one inning: solo blast and a grand slam. Chrrist the Astros are terrible.

[Shisen Kopf]

Yeah, when the tigers played them, I think they out scored them 45-10 or some shit. Terrible team. Rays gonna be alone in first place after this game too. Really hope tigers vs rays in the ALCS

[road doggy dogg]

I wish there was an MLB-equivalent site to capgeek.com

[Shisen Kopf]

Imagine if MLB had a cap. Rays would be 4x champs by now.

[road doggy dogg]

Yeah I dunno if Joe Maddon is just like the greatest manager of all time or if it's the GM or what. I enjoy seeing the franchise do well, if only because I can't stand pretty much the entire AL East otherwise.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I dunno about any of them but I hear this Rich Harden kid is gunna be a stud

#BillyKochReference

[Keith]

Imagine if MLB had a cap. Rays would be 4x champs by now.

We're not 4x champs. We haven't even won ONCE.


But ya know what?


WE'RE IN FIRST PLACE, MUTHAFUCKAS!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Keith breaking form by being a Rays fan who cares before September.

#controversial

[Keith]

You said the same thing last year, Supreme "The Dream".

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I don't think I did, Keith "The Queef".

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I could be wrong though.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

We have fun here

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Either way, was not meant to be "a burn"

Was more meant to be "a rib"

[Shisen Kopf]

http://mcraigweaver.com/recipes/images/TooBlackRibs2.jpg

I think it was both

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Reds are getting Kershawed right meow.

Still 0-0 though.

[road doggy dogg]

It's not getting Kershawed unless he hits the go-ahead homer to go with it.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Phillies sign Cuban pitcher Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez to a 6 year, $48 million deal.

AKA the pitcher even Ned Colletti said "whoa, not worth it."</font>

[The Condor]

Love how Keith is MIA for two months or so only to come back and gloat on the day the Rays take first place.

[Bad News Gertner]

Josh Johnson is a bitch

[Frank Drebin]

Yanks fans: Cashman was right.

[OssMan]

Intrigued by MLB Network's "Live Look In" setup where they show the game with their own scoreboard and the radio announcers talking... interesting

[OssMan]

Baseball thread is good, way better than dreadful NFL thread, just want to say... thanks

[RoXer]

We know dude. NFL thread is the worst.

[screech]

Love how Keith is MIA for two months or so only to come back and gloat on the day the Rays take first place.

Rays fans only present themselves when the team is playing well.

[Skippord]

you guys don't want to post in a thread with JamesSteele and Savior arguing whether Joe Flacco is better than Tony Romo or not?

[OssMan]

thank you,,,the fans

[The Condor]

Last two innings of Cubs-Giants= hilarity.

[Innovator]

Jeter homers in his first at bat since coming off the dl, welcome back

[The Condor]

Jeter homers in his first at bat since coming off the dl, welcome back

Capn' Crush

[screech]

You said the same thing last year
:wave:

[screech]

Well, the Phillies have at least scored today #optimism

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The ump in the Tigers/Phillies game has to get a fine or something. I know they can technically eject anybody for any reason, but throwing out the best hitter in baseball for calmly questioning a called strike is ridiculous.</font>

[The Condor]

Must have "showed him up" in some sort of fashion. Umps are very fragile

[ClockShot]

Jeter homers in his first at bat since coming off the dl, welcome back


Not a moment to soon.

[ClockShot]

Damn, totally forgot HazMat retired as a Yankee today.

[The Condor]

HazMat.

Never heard that before. Is that your own nickname for him or is that widely used by Yankees fans?

[ClockShot]

Oh yeah. That's been been Matsui's other nickname give to him by Yankee fans. The one you probably hear the most is Godzilla, right?

[The Condor]

The one you probably hear the most is Godzilla, right?

Yep. In all those years I never heard Hazmat.

[road doggy dogg]

God I really hope my waiver claim for Soriano goes through in my AL-only league.

[road doggy dogg]

I didn't catch the Tigers game today but heard the Cabrera ejection was pretty weaksauce. WHATEVS tho pounded the Phillies and it's good for Cabrera to get some extra time to rest his back anyway I guess.

[Bad News Gertner]

Colby Rasmus is a joy to watch.

Lol friggen Rajah Davis had 4 stolen bases tonight. Would really rather him start in left over Melky.

[Skippord]

Corey Dickerson hit his first Major League home run this afternoon

DICKMANIA

[DAMN iNATOR]

I didn't catch the Tigers game today but heard the Cabrera ejection was pretty weaksauce. WHATEVS tho pounded the Phillies and it's good for Cabrera to get some extra time to rest his back anyway I guess.

It was. Leyland came out and got in his face and got tossed too. Crazy thing is Jim's only been thrown out twice from games this season, and both times it was by the same ump.

[road doggy dogg]

Tigers trade a prospect and player to-be-named for Veras from the Astros. Supposedly to serve in a setup role. He's cheap and has been decent for Houston. I'm tentatively excited about this, I think Benoit has earned the opportunity to keep the closer's role for now though. Not really sure about the prospect they gave up for him though.

[Ermaximus]

Beachy is off the DL and starts TONIGHT. Thank God!

[Emperor Smeat]

Phillies rumored to be trading Jonathan Papelbon both as part of their potential roster cleaning and because he hinted he wants out.

Yet he does not want to be moved -- unless the Phillies continue their losing ways.

"No, I would like to stay here," Papelbon said. "But if I'm going to have to put up with this year after year, then no, I don't want to be here. Why would you? Why would anybody?"

[Adder]

Colby Rasmus is a joy to watch.

Lol friggen Rajah Davis had 4 stolen bases tonight. Would really rather him start in left over Melky.

Or call up Gose.


Melky is plain awful.

[ClockShot]

Today the trade deadline?

Pretty darn quiet. Usually a trade happening every half hour today.

[Skippord]

Beachy is off the DL and starts TONIGHT. Thank God!
I would be stunned if the Rockies get more than 3 hits

[screech]

Trade Deadline is Wednesday.

[Evil Vito]

Jerry Meals: master of the home plate screw job

[Bad News Gertner]

Fuck you Chapman! Just cost me 10 fantasy points for Mike Leake!

[Bad News Gertner]

Beachy is off the DL and starts TONIGHT. Thank God!

Lol how'd that go

[Bad News Gertner]

Former MLB pitcher Frank Castillo dies at age 44, drowned in a lake

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/former-mlb-pitcher-frank-castillo-dead-age-44-211450477.html


I remember him having a nice little season with the Jays

[Supreme Olajuwon]

hate baseball

[Skippord]

what he said

[DaveBrawl]

This season isn't fun anymore. :'(

[Skippord]

At least it's still more fun than last year

[DaveBrawl]

So true.

[Innovator]

I thought the deadline was tomorrow? Doesn't matter, trades go down in August a lot the last couple years.

[The Condor]

Wednesday, 4pm is the deadline

[Tb1]

Wilson to the Dodgers

[Tb1]

Want to kill myself

[Corndad]

AJ Burnett would be Mayor of Pittsburgh if he ran. Good god what a man.

[ClockShot]

Wilson to the Dodgers


Underneath that WCW shirt was an nWo shirt all along.

[ClockShot]

Peavy got scratched tonight.

Any idea who's the frontrunner for him?

[Frank Drebin]

Apparently it was Boston. 3-team deal with Tigers involved.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>To Red Sox: SP Jake Peavy

To Tigers: SS Jose Iglesias

To White Sox: OF Avisail Garcia</font>

[Frank Drebin]

Jake Arrieta looked descent tonight. A few too many 3 ball counts for my taste but overall good. Can't wait till RP bitches about him and how they should never have traded Feldman.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I never thought I'd live in a world where I can actually be sold on Eric Young, Jr. and Juan Lagares being a part of the Mets' 2014 outfield.</font>

[The Condor]

Fuckin' Arrieta is a cunt and will prove it in that cesspool they call Wrigley.

[Frank Drebin]

The curse of Crazy Edgar.

Was he good against the Yanks or something?

[The Condor]

The curse of Crazy Edgar.

Was he good against the Yanks or something?

Nah, but I just like seeing the Cubs continue to founder. It's been over a century and nothing in sports rivals it. The Pirates haven't had a winning season in 20 years and its not even a drop in the ocean to what Cubs fans feel. Don't know how to describe it because I hold nothing against the Cubs or their fans but its such a crazy thing that I'd like to see it continue indefinitely.

[The Condor]

And I'll always love you, Drebs <3

[Frank Drebin]

Awwww. That's so sweet.

[Frank Drebin]

Slowly coming around to being a fan again after these trades. Fuck their executives on their business side still. Hope they all get ALS.

[Frank Drebin]

Been a very active trade season. Seems like all the big ones have happened. Who's the biggest name likely to be dealt? Bud Norris?

[Boomer]

Braves starting to look scary. Andrelton Simmons is probably winning a Gold Glove based on this month alone...totally making up for his poor early play this year.

[Bad News Gertner]

Mark Buehrle. Complete game shut out last week, 7 shut out innings against the A's tonight.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Nah, but I just like seeing the Cubs continue to founder. It's been over a century and nothing in sports rivals it. The Pirates haven't had a winning season in 20 years and its not even a drop in the ocean to what Cubs fans feel. Don't know how to describe it because I hold nothing against the Cubs or their fans but its such a crazy thing that I'd like to see it continue indefinitely.

Only thing which might come close would be the Lions never winning a title in the Super Bowl era. Something I wouldn't mind seeing continue for the rest of my lifetime.

[Bad News Gertner]

The Leafs have been an embarassment for years. The stories I could tell you about their former owner Harold Ballard would knock you socks off. He'd be in jail if he did the things he did then. Actually went to jail while he owned the Leafs. No Stanley Cups or even finals appearences since 1967.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Most likely gonna be a quiet trading deadline for the Mets. Marlon Byrd is their most tradeable guy. .282/17 HR/60 RBI. On a league minimum contract. About to turn 36.

Seems like a key candidate to get flipped to a contender, but just like last year Sandy isn't trading anybody if they don't get something of value in return. No intention on trading him just for the sake of trading him.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

I'm cautiously optimistic about the Iglesias trade.

Tigers have lots of OF depth so Garcia was expendable. Villareal never impressed me so I don't know, don't mind seeing him go.

Iglesias provides an upgrade in defense over Peralta. JP isn't necessarily "bad", but with Miggy and Prince at the corners you need someone better than average at SS to compensate. Even without a looming Peralta suspension, I like the pickup. Peralta is probably gone as a FA after this season regardless, so it's a great pickup from the Tigers to fill that void. The obvious glove upgrade is good too. Obviously Iglesias' numbers are going to regress and come down a bit but that's fine, if he can hit for decent average and provide good defense that's all we really need from him. The biggest part of the pickup obviously is if Peralta gets suspended (looking more likely by the day it seems), so it's a great insurance pickup.

[The Condor]

I continue to despise the Red Sux. I hope Peavy rips his back muscles from his spine again.

[Innovator]

I just continue hope that PEDroia's name comes up somewhere

[DaveBrawl]

Crazy Edgar has become Crazy Vicious Edgar.

[Frank Drebin]

He's got to get used to watching Alfonso Soriano at bats. Give him time to adjust.

[The Condor]

He's got to get used to watching Alfonso Soriano at bats. Give him time to adjust.

I vividly remember '99-'02. Obviously, age has caught up and magnified his bad habits but in this lineup... He's a legitimate cleanup hitter. No Edgar heel turn, not yet at least :shifty:

[Innovator]

I'm just happy that the Yanks finally have a solid 1-5 again: Gardner, Jeter, Cano, Soriano, Ichiro

Notice that Lyle Overbay isn't clean up anymore. Lyle. Overbay. Cleanup. Yankees.

[The Condor]

The spurts of power, such as last nights HR, intoxicated Girardi and forced his hand I think. There was no one else. But you are right, it's starting to resemble an actual professional line up.

[parkmania]

I'm enjoying the ride the Pirates are giving this season, but I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop.

It's still weird to see that according to http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/, the Pirates have a better chance to win the WS (6.7%) than to NOT make the playoffs (1.1%)

[The Condor]

I understand the apprehension of Pirates fans but the optimism has be through the roof at the same time. Best team in baseball and its August. Fun to watch. El Toro might be a back door NL MVP candidate if he keeps it up.

[Skippord]

I'm just happy that the Yanks finally have a solid 1-5 again: Gardner, Jeter, Cano, Soriano, Ichiro

Notice that Lyle Overbay isn't clean up anymore. Lyle. Overbay. Cleanup. Yankees.
Andrew Brown hit cleanup for the Rockies last year

would've killed for Lyle Overbay then

[Evil Vito]

Worst trade deadline ever.

[Emperor Smeat]

<font color=goldenrod>To Red Sox: SP Jake Peavy

To Tigers: SS Jose Iglesias

To White Sox: OF Avisail Garcia</font>

Red Sox still have a revolving door when it comes to the SS spot ever since Nomar left. Also gave up 2 lower tier prospects to the White Sox while receiving one from the Tiger in return.

On paper, the Tigers seem to be the winners considering Iglesias is currently rated as the best defensive SS in the AL and only needs more time to develop into a potentially good hitter.

[Emperor Smeat]

Nelson Cruz joins A-Rod as the only players so far appealing their suspensions although A-Rod's is rumored to be punished under the CBA rules and not drug rules which makes an appeal impossible.

[Skippord]

Worst trade deadline ever.
what if I told you the Royals have acquired Justin Maxwell?

[road doggy dogg]

Orioles get Norris from Houston

[ClockShot]

Padres grab Mr. Ian Kennedy....................KENNEDY! from the D-Backs.

Bit of a head scratcher, imo. He reinvented himself in Arizona and was starting to become a bit of a folk hero there.

[ClockShot]

From.........well everybody.

After learning he's starring down the barrel of a lifetime ban from baseball, and his lawyer saying they'll fight any punishment MLB give him, A-Rod is at the negotiating table trying to work out a deal.

Most of the other players involved in the Biogenesis scandal either cut their deals already or are expecting a 50-game suspension.


Damn, gonna be a historic day in sports tomorrow.

[Emperor Smeat]

Wonder if it means Nelson Cruz is also going to back down from appealing since he's the only other one who publicly said he'd appeal as well.

[Damian Rey]

Love, love, love the Ian Kennedy acquisition for the Padres. Fly ball pitchers in PETCO do really, really well. Love that the main piece of the deal was a left handed specialist, who, in 50 games, has thrown 30 lousy innings, to go along with a non prospect relief pitcher and a competitive balance pick. For a guy who is going to give the Padres 180 to 200 innings at an at least league average clip for the next 2.5 years. What a hose.

Love Peavy to the Red Sox, because I love Jake Peavy more than any man on Earth not named Tony Gwynn. Think it's a great pickup. They get a legitimate top of the rotation starter, when healthy, for a weak hitting defensive wiz of a short stop. Don't think Alisail Garcia will amount to much. Tigers got a great glove, and with their ridiculous offense, they don't need his stick to produce in order to gain value from him going forward. Also, the move allows the Red Sox to hand Xander Bogearts the SS job in the near future, and he's projected as an above average bat as a SS, which is basically an all star.

Astros did well. I don't think Norris is anything special. He's been olay this year, but his strikeouts are down, and I don't think he's going to be much better than he is now, os moving him was the best decision. Orioles bolster their rotation with another solid arm. Much better deals this year for the Orioles this year than last year's dumpster diving.

[Bad News Gertner]

Peavy's HR per game is high. I wonder how he'll do in Fenway.

Jays do nothing. That's nice.

[YOUR Hero]

Jays shouldn't have done too much. I think they did the right thing in sticking to their plan of building for a contender in the now. That was the plan going in to the season and it would have sucked to ditch it (ala the Marlins) after 1 year. They got to replace Johnson t year end. Drabek should be healthy and hopefully they can pick up a 1st round pick for Johnson. Melky is a bust, hopefully Gose(sp?) get a nod next year.

[The Condor]

Yanks-Dodgers. Kuroda v. Kershaw is a pitching enthusiasts delight.

[The Condor]

Love, love, love the Ian Kennedy acquisition for the Padres.

I agree.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Red Sox back in first. Should be 1.5 game lead if not for that BULLSHIT call on Monday night.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Indians got their 9th walk-off win of season tonight. Less than 2 hours later Red Sox get their 10th to retake MLB lead.</p>&mdash; ESPN Stats &amp; Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/statuses/362790226562781185">August 1, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Forget if its the Reds or Giants that also have around 9 walk off wins as well.

[Bad News Gertner]

Jays shouldn't have done too much. I think they did the right thing in sticking to their plan of building for a contender in the now. That was the plan going in to the season and it would have sucked to ditch it (ala the Marlins) after 1 year. They got to replace Johnson t year end. Drabek should be healthy and hopefully they can pick up a 1st round pick for Johnson. Melky is a bust, hopefully Gose(sp?) get a nod next year.

Gose has been atrocious in AAA. Said it for a while, wouldn't mind seeing Rajah Davis play everyday in left.

[DAMN iNATOR]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Indians got their 9th walk-off win of season tonight. Less than 2 hours later Red Sox get their 10th to retake MLB lead.</p>&mdash; ESPN Stats &amp; Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/statuses/362790226562781185">August 1, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Forget if its the Reds or Giants that also have around 9 walk off wins as well.

I thought the Nationals had a pretty high number of walk-offs too.

[Frank Drebin]

Braves 6-0 since Waffle House established at Turner Field. Best trade deadline acquisition?

[Skippord]

3 of those were against the Rockies, who should really just start forfeiting games at Turner Field

[ClockShot]

The Yankees shut out the Dodgers, with Kershaw pitching?!

Is it backwards day today?

[Emperor Smeat]

Buck Showalter thinks if MLB does a year or longer suspension for A-Rod, its going to act as a big reward for the Yankees instead of hurting them. MLB would have helped them get under the luxury tax threshold and they can splurge again without worrying about the the massive tax penalty (drops from 50% to just 17%).

Also thinks the Os would lose catcher Matt Wieters because they wouldn't be able to compete with the money the Yankees would have saved from A-Rod alone.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9527967/buck-showalter-guarantees-new-york-yankees-sign-matt-wieters-alex-rodriguez-suspended-2014-season

[ClockShot]

That's Buck's opinion.

But I think the general vibe around The Empire is that we ain't gonna get under $189 mil. next season.

[ClockShot]

Yankees sign the No. 5 international prospect today. He's an outfielder.

I approve. Slowly plugging the positions needed in the future.

[Innovator]

Buck Showalter is a chatty Kathy

[Triple Naitch]

Yankees fans still upset at Buck Showalter over the cotton uniforms.

[McLegend]

But Cotton breathes, damnit

[Triple Naitch]

Imagine playing games and your team is five degrees cooler than the other team. Don't you think that would be an advantage? They're cooler, they're more comfortable...they're happier. They're gonna play better.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to ESPN, A-Rod and his reps have a few days to negotiate a deal with MLB over his suspension or else they will just go ahead with whatever they want as a punishment.

So far MLB is still threatening a lifetime ban if he keeps being stubborn and even with a negotiated deal, his will still be the longest out of everyone from the clinic.

The suspension of Rodriguez and eight other major league players should be announced within the next few days, with most of the other eight expected to accept 50-game suspensions without appealing.

If Rodriguez does not agree to a lengthy suspension without appealing, one source said, MLB has threatened to suspend him for life, forcing him to fight the league through arbitration. The sources did not say what length of suspension either side would accept, only that the two camps "aren't anywhere close," according to one.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9530007/sources-mlb-alex-rodriguez-far-apart-suspension-settlement

[Emperor Smeat]

Wow at the huge comeback win for the Red Sox

Was down 7-2 bottom of the 9th and ended up winning 8-7. Nava's game winning hit just missed being a grand slam by a few inches.

[Boomer]

I think I heard on the Braves' broadcast that their magic number going into tonight was 44. That's probably pretty good, considering where we are in the season.

[DAMN iNATOR]

According to ESPN, A-Rod and his reps have a few days to negotiate a deal with MLB over his suspension or else they will just go ahead with whatever they want as a punishment.

So far MLB is still threatening a lifetime ban if he keeps being stubborn and even with a negotiated deal, his will still be the longest out of everyone from the clinic.


http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9530007/sources-mlb-alex-rodriguez-far-apart-suspension-settlement

Fuck that. Selig needs to show some fucking balls and use Article XII (B) to ban A-Fraud's ass for life for conduct detrimental to baseball.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Wow at the huge comeback win for the Red Sox

Was down 7-2 bottom of the 9th and ended up winning 8-7. Nava's game winning hit just missed being a grand slam by a few inches.

A Magical Night at Fenway(C)

(C) Don Orsillo.

[Bad News Gertner]

Josh Johnson's ERA is now up to 6.60

His last 4 outings


Tonight: 2.1 Innings 10 hits, 7 runs 6 earned 2 walks 1 k 1 home run
VS Houston 5.2 innings 7 hits, 7 earned runs 2 walks 8 k's. 3 home runs.
Vs Dodgers 2 Innngs, 7 hits, 5 earned runs 1 walk, 2 k's 1 home run
Vs Baltimore 6 Innings 7 hits, 7 earned runs 1 walk 7 k's 2 home runs


Yup.

[The Condor]

Josh Johnson= to BlueJays fans as Jeff Weaver = to Yankees fans

[Bad News Gertner]

He's bordering on Josh Towers bad

Lol 2006: 2-10 8.42 ERA, 59 runs in 62 innings with 17 home runs with the Jays

[The Condor]

I remember that year very well. Good fodder for the AL East

[Frank Drebin]

Tribe totally pantsed the white sox this week. Everyone told me I was crazy when I said the wheels were going to fall off the wagon. Funny thing is no one is getting fired because they just promoted everyone in the front office. I'm sure a hitting coach or strength and conditioning coach get the ax tho.

Mike Olt like 2 for 35 so far with the Cubs in AAA. Legitimately worried.

[The Fraze]

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/1/2/4/55432124/PhanaticATV_o6rrgafx.gif

[Skippord]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18vsbu2n0qmjjgif/ku-medium.gif

[road doggy dogg]

That's even funnier than the Raul Ibanez gif where he threw a ball like he was Carly Rae Jepsen. Gotta go dig that one up.

[road doggy dogg]

Putting in spoiler tags because too many animated gifs makes my work computer want to kill itself.

http://assets.sbnation.com/imported_assets/34751/28akex2_jpg.gif

[road doggy dogg]

More Ibanez fun:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/29431/IbanezOffGlove3.gif

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/29815/IbanezBobble4.gif

[ClockShot]

Grandyman got activated for tonight.

Soooooooo, we calling this act 2 or act 3?

[road doggy dogg]

lol wtf watching Nats/Brewers game in the background and the stadium announcers just went "Now pinch hitting, Chris Davis" and in my semi-drunken state I was like WHAT THE HECK

Guess they have some jobber named Khris (yes, Khris) Davis on their team. Baseball is such a funny sport.

[The Condor]

Yankees game was awful, sad I stayed up to watch CC continue to pitch like he had a mixture of mental retardation and scoliosis.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Was great to see Pedro Feliciano back in the big leagues.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>David Wright to the DL with a hamstring strain.

Today's Mets lineup:

1) Eric Young Jr. LF
2) Juan Lagares CF
3) Josh Satin 1B
4) Marlon Byrd RF
5) Daniel Murphy 2B
6) Justin Turner 3B
7) Anthony Recker C
8) Omar Quintanilla SS
9) Jeremy Hefner RHP

Josh Satin hitting 3rd? Mother of christ.</font>

[Skippord]

HAIL SATIN

[Emperor Smeat]

According to ESPN and others, A-Rod is currently looking at a ban that will last until the end of the 2014 season or roughly 214 games when MLB makes it official on Monday. MLB gave up trying to negotiate with him anymore after recent talks stalled.

Several sources familiar with the talks said tense deliberations between Rodriguez and commissioner Bud Selig's office broke down completely Saturday after Selig told officials he would no longer negotiate.

One source told OTL that MLBPA executive director Michael Weiner called MLB executive vice president Rob Manfred on Saturday asking for a meeting between the union, MLB, the Yankees and Rodriguez's camp, but MLB refused.

MLB has said repeatedly that the Yankees have no place in negotiations and that discipline was the domain of Selig and no one else, a source said. Several sources also said that Selig was "furious" with Rodriguez for telling reporters he would not negotiate, even as his attorneys sought a deal to mitigate MLB's looming punishment.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9535752/alex-rodriguez-likely-suspended-2014-season-monday-according-sources

[Skippord]

holy shit, the Jays may have just made the worst sequence of throws I've ever seen

[RoXer]

Our favorite nerd, Eric Sogard, is getting punked the fuck out on twitter by Matt Garza

[RoXer]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQyu21XCEAAhrCg.jpg:large

[RoXer]

oh yeah and i suppose theres some sexism too but whatevs

[McLegend]

It appears that his wife didn't really say anything though.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

He's mad at a guy for bunting in a totally legitimate bunting situation. Garza's kinda being a bitch here.

[RoXer]

It's a man's game, Supreme

[RoXer]

You can see him mouth "fucking bullshit" as he throws to first. I think he calls Sogard a pussy too but can't really see it. Pretty funny.