Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

[Damian Rey]

God, Detroit is a perfect GC.

[Skippord]

they can blow it all up for real and no one will care

[DaveBrawl]

Pretty sure Detroit may need the JLA, Avengers and probably Spawn at this point.

[Skippord]

don't forget Bloodhawk

[DaveBrawl]

Pretty sure he's already there.

[Skippord]

Bloodhawk is the mayor of Detroit

[slik]

Possible Concept Art?

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/09/04/either-this-is-real-ben-affleck-as-batman-concept-art-or-steve-scott-is-a-very-funny-guy/

http://comicbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/batfleck.jpg

[Reavant]

wouldnt the bat on the chest be the same as the promotional one tho?

[Damian Rey]

Looks an awful lot like the TDKR suit. I'd like to se something that's not latex, but still tactical and functional.

[Lock Jaw]

Dunno. They have the old DC Comics logo on that page, plus the Wildstorm logo, which has been defunct since 2010.

[Miotch]

Bet it's fake.

"NO BAT NIPPLES" c'mon

[Kalyx triaD]

Fake. And like hell they would do anything in the vein of the Beyond/Batwoman symbol, it would almost certainly veer away from the Dark Knight suit and also use the Frank Miller bat symbol they seem to be attached to in their early marketing. And I could get a little technical, DC's concept art don't get produced on those sheets. They have a painted quality like their movies in the last few years. Marvel also goes straight to concept paintings.

[JimmyMess]

I just thought of something whilst looking at pictures of Zod's battle armor..... it looks much like what I would picture Lex Luthor's armor would.

Is there potential that Luthor (assuming he will be in this picture) will don Zod's battle armor (modifying it, adding his own spin on it and what not) and be able to fight Superman in battle.... much like he has in the comics and cartoons and games.

Not sure if this has been brought up in this discussion... but yeah.

[Kalyx triaD]

Good chance Diana will cameo or at least be heavily alluded to in this movie, which is sounding more and more like a 2-hour prologue to the Justice League movie - which is almost certainly going up against Avengers 3.

[Reavant]

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[Kalyx triaD]

- Lex is in the movie. Xenophobia and being a general dick intact.

- Kevin Smith seen the new Batman costume. Never heard sound that excited in... ever. And he's very hard to please.

- Clark and Bruce will have some kind of physical confrontation, ridiculous as it sounds. Suppose Kryptonite will make it's debut.

- Diana's almost certainly in the film, not as WW though. Perhaps Bruce meets this exotic love interest without knowing how exotic she really is.

- Dick Grayson is likely. If he's in the actor will so have a multi-pic deal for the time Ben kicks off the new Bat movies.

[Blitz]

The Flash is also supposed to be showing up. And rumour has it that Adam Driver is the frontrunner for Nightwing.

[parkmania]

This weekend, Warner Bros. held their Man of Steel online fan event to promote the upcoming Blu-ray release of the film, and while director Zack Snyder shared a few details on the highly-anticipated sequel, it was what came later that was truly exciting. On another episode of his Hollywood Babble-On podcast (via CBM), director Kevin Smith revealed that Zack Snyder showed him a picture of the Batman costume for the follow-up film, Batman vs. Superman.

"I saw the Batman costume. More than that I saw a picture of him (Affleck) in the costume. Now, I don't want to give anything away 'cause that is up to them and stuff, but I am going to say this, I instantly bear hugged him (Snyder). You have not seen this costume in a movie on film before, and for a comic book fan it was mind bending. I was like 'Get out of here, only you have enough power to pull this off.' Because everyone always like does this Matrix/X-Men black armor...It was fantastic. I'm already a flag waver for this movie, but the costume, it blew my mind. I think everyone is just gonna be like 'Holy ****!' It's its own thing, man. It's like we haven't been down this path at all. I was so elated....Even the hardest core �**** all this� person will be like 'alright, I'm ready.'"

Smith also mentioned the costume has a certain influence on its style, but redacted that portion of his praise. Will it be based on Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns? Something else? What do you think the costume will look like? Sound off below!

So, I definitely could see it being based on the Miller costume. Bruce did face off against Clark in an armored suit in that work.

[mitchables]

ugh, driver looks so fucking sleazy :$

[McLegend]

Don't know who he is, but he has a big nose.

[VSG]

Hmmm.. Doesn't the miller costume also have a similar batman logo to the one in this movie?

[Kalyx triaD]

The Miller story has slight influence on the movie in general.

[parkmania]

Hmmm.. Doesn't the miller costume also have a similar batman logo to the one in this movie?

If the "traditional" logo is Batman in his prime, then Miller's logo and the logo first revealed for this movie, is Batman in his middle ages, with a few extra pounds.

[VSG]

Ya that's what I thought too.

[Lock Jaw]

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[parkmania]

Warner Bros. has announced this morning that Gal Gadot, most well known for appearing in The Fast and the Furious films, has landed the role of Wonder Woman in Zack Snyder's upcoming Batman vs. Superman film.

In a statement, Zack Snyder stated: "Wonder Woman is arguably one of the most powerful female characters of all time and a fan favorite in the DC Universe. Not only is Gal an amazing actress, but she also has that magical quality that makes her perfect for the role. We look forward to audiences discovering Gal in the first feature film incarnation of this beloved character."

Batman vs. Superman will feature the return of Henry Cavill as Superman, facing off against Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne/Batman. Also starring Amy Adams, Diane Lane and Laurence Fishburne, the Zack Snyder0directed Batman vs. Superman hits theaters on July 17, 2015.


http://www.superherohype.com/images/stories/2013/December/galgadotwonderwoman.jpg


Interesting.

[slik]

Not familiar with her but she looks very pretty.

Curious how she is as an actress.

[ClockShot]

Gal Gadot is hot. Needs to do more TV and Movies. :drool:

Probably won't see this movie, sadly.

[Lock Jaw]

Hot Israeli Braud

[Kalyx triaD]

I can dig it.

The Trinity going to be on film. Shit's getting real.

[JimmyMess]

I like this. I am excited.

[parkmania]

https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1475861_10151916715535808_1627449930_n.jpg

Definitely not your typical comic book version of Wonder Woman - she's got itty bitty titties.

[Lock Jaw]

CGI boobs

[Vastardikai]

If they have to put Wonder Woman in the movie. I'd put her in the last second.

If there's going to be an actual villain(s), I'd probably actually go With Hugo Strange and Metallo.

[Kalyx triaD]

Lex is oh so clearly the villain here.

Maybe not that clear but I'm 97% certain.

[Damian Rey]

Not the ideal look at all. For as much as they knocked it out of the park with Cavill's casting, I feel like this is the exact opposite. She doesn't look the part. At all.

[KIRA]

I am more than a little worried that DC is overloading this film just a bit, but I guess they know what they are doing.

[Lock Jaw]

Read somewhere online today that apparently The Flash is gonna be in the movie as well.

[KIRA]

See? I keep having to remind myself that this is the sequel to Man of Steel.

If you all take my meaning.

[Kalyx triaD]

If Flash is in this might as well call it Justice League.

[KIRA]

If Flash is in this might as well call it Justice League.

At this point yep.

Also I'm not sure if a Snyder Helmed Justice League can compete with the Avengers to sum up Ive gone from being pumped for this film to being more than a little worried by it.

[Rammsteinmad]

Well, let's be honest here, most people outside of the comic fanbase don't really give a fuck about any DC characters other than Batman and Superman. Probably a good way to "test the waters" so-to-speak, and see how well all these characters do on screen together.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Torn on this. Have zero interest in Superman in the slightest, yet I want to see Affleck as Batman, even though I don't really like Batman either. Don't really want to watch Man of Steel though.

I'll be waiting til it's out on torrent sites anyway so plenty of time to decide whether or not to bother with it.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Other than the first 10-15 mins with Russell Crowe and Krypton, Man of Steel was blah. You are not missing much, Iggy.

[alvarado52]

I think at this point it's no longer a Man of Steel sequel. It's just a DC super hero flick featuring the guy who played Superman in Man of Steel.

[Lock Jaw]

Might be even better if you pretend this is the first movie and ignore the origin one.

[Kalyx triaD]

I happen to like Man of Steel, but I'm often soft on comic movies unless they are particularly heinous. I let a lot of stuff slide if I'm enjoying myself, but I'm not blind to certain legit criticisms. I can understand why Origins Wolverine, Spidey 3, and X3 were misses, but I enjoyed them.

[DaveBrawl]

Man of Steel was probably my favorite Super Hero movie since The Dark Knight, really close with Dark Knight Returns. None of the Marvel movies have been as enjoyable to me. Not to say they haven't been good or enjoyable, but Man of Steel was on another level or so I thought.

[Krimzon7]

Man of Steel was a great movie. I thoroughly enjoyed myself. I actually find that the time on Krypton was only made enjoyable because of Michael Shannon playing the lunatic Zod.

[Kalyx triaD]

Was Zod crazy? Was he really?

[Krimzon7]

no, he wasn't. but when watching the movie without the benefit of knowing his reasoning(thanks to his amazing monologue later on). He looks pretty crazy during the first 15 minutes.

[Blitz]

If Flash is in this might as well call it Justice League.
Straight up, 6 months from release I'm expecting them to just say "Yeah the actual title is Justice League".

Take the opposite tack from Marvel. Do the big team movie first, and spin off the characters into solo films.

[KIRA]

Straight up, 6 months from release I'm expecting them to just say "Yeah the actual title is Justice League".

Take the opposite tack from Marvel. Do the big team movie first, and spin off the characters into solo films.
I like that idea I like it a lot actually.

[KIRA]

Was Zod crazy? Was he really?

I'd argue that he went crazy after losing all hope of reviving Krypton. On a side note I kinda felt for him during that whole I have no people line but considering that they could have easily co-existed with humanity and Zods Xenophobia and intent that feeling passed quickly.

[parkmania]

Jason Momoa is in talks to join the cast of Batman-Superman, the Man of Steel sequel, according to Hollywood Reporter. Momoa has lots of geek cred from Stargate: Atlantis, his stint as Khal Drogo in Game of Thrones, and less desirably in Conan the Barbarian (see "'Conan' Actor Chosen").

The character Momoa will play has not been revealed; THR speculated that he could play either Doomsday or Martian Manhunter.

Momoa will join Henry Cavill, Ben Affleck, and most recently Gal Gadot (see "Wonder Woman Cast for 'Batman vs. Superman'") in the cast.


J'onn J'ones - seems like a better fit than Doomsday, who I would expect to be all-CGI.

[McLegend]

I love random speculation. I love it to death, but all the casting news for this movie have been way off.

So I think it's a safe assumption that he's not going to be either of those two.

[Kalyx triaD]

I would lean toward the popular voice depiction of J'onn and cast a black guy.

[DaveBrawl]

If Ryan Reynolds ends up as the Green Lantern again I may just cry myself to sleep.

[Kalyx triaD]

The chances of that are not even worth worrying about.

[DaveBrawl]

Oh I know, I was just joking. I doubt they will even use Hal in the next GL appearance.

[Blonde Moment]

Zod was more or less a victim of his own genetics and i think if they would have dealt with that a little more he might have been a little more sympathetic or at least more understanding of why he did what he did.

What would you do to save your race?

[Kalyx triaD]

Negotiate.

[Reavant]

he was bread to be a warrior not a deligate

[Kalyx triaD]

Jor was a scientist and he kicked ass.

[parkmania]

If Ryan Reynolds ends up as the Green Lantern again I may just cry myself to sleep.

I said it before the movie came out, and I'll reiterate.

I have no problem with Ryan Reynolds being GL, but he would have been a much better fit as Guy Gardner instead of Hal Jordan.

[KIRA]

Negotiate.


But we've seen Zod's "negotiation" method which consists of mindrape and showing you a ground paved with the skulls of people you love while he goes on belittling your pathetic attachment to them.

[Kalyx triaD]

So he's a bit heavy handed.

[Reavant]

Jor was a scientist and he kicked ass.

Zod was a war drone... being bred for knowledge kindof frees your mind to letting you learn and be able to do a lot of different things... plus lets not forget he still got killed

[Lock Jaw]

They should do everything completely backwards, including sidekicks. Do a Young Justice movie that Justice League spins off of, then do solo movies that spin off of Justice League.

[Kalyx triaD]

Young Justice is gone, Lock. I'm sorry.

[Krimzon7]

Young Justice is gone, Lock. I'm sorry.

:'(

[Vastardikai]

I have no problem with Ryan Reynolds being GL, but he would have been a much better fit as Guy Gardner instead of Hal Jordan.

I'm with you on this. If ever there was guy who should get knocked out by one punch from Batman, it's Ryan Reynolds.

[Vastardikai]

Doomsday is a big enough draw to be his own movie.

[JimmyMess]

Is there a chance they'll do the black guy Green Lantern?

[Kalyx triaD]

There's a fan outcry for Idris to be Jon Stewart. On Twitter he said he's down.

[McLegend]

There is talk of a live action young justice TV show. So it might not be fully dead.

[Lock Jaw]

I have heard no talk about that whatsoever.

[McLegend]

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/29925/cw-plans-a-live-action-young-justice

Only rumor's yet my friend, but they are out there.

[Lock Jaw]

Just can't see them doing that live action. Too many characters, too much special effects.

[Kalyx triaD]

Not happening.

[Nowhere Man]

On the subject of Jason Momoa, y'know who he'd be a great fit for? Mongul.

Think about it: Mongul is a simple enough villain that you don't need to spend a whole lot of time on development, but still awesome enough to be a threat. He's powerful enough that you'd need more than just Superman to take him down, but not on the level of a Darkseid who would need the whole League. Plus, the whole War-World gladiator arena thing would be a convenient way to have Superman and Batman and Wonder Woman fight without making one of them look like the bad guy.

That or do an adaptation of "For the Man Who Has Everything," where Mongul has Superman trapped in a trance where he thinks he's living on Krypton (which would allow more time with Russell Crowe and the movie-verse's awesome version of Krypton) while Batman and Wonder Woman fight for their lives and try to snap Clark out of it. That could be goddamn amazing.

[Fox]

My theory on the sequel: the movie opens with the world fearing Superman and the destruction he and the Kryptonian invaders caused in Metropolis. Batman captures Superman, seeing him as far too dangerous to remain among the rest of the world, using advanced technology suits and of course, kryptonite, to subdue him and hold him in cell with ultra red lighting to take away his super powers.

Doomsday comes to Earth, either as a being sent from the outer reaches of space, or more likely, as a creation of Lex Luthor's as a response to Superman's existence. Batman tries to fight him and loses miserably. His only option is to release Superman and fight him together.

Not really sure where Wonder Woman would play into this.

[Optimus Bone 69]

I need to see Ben Affleck in the suit soon, it is troubling me

[Kalyx triaD]

Wonder Woman may appear as Bruce's girlfriend for most of the movie saving her true background for later (going by casting news). Most of the movie will deal the world's reaction to Superman and the Battle of Metropolis, where Lex finds an opening to push his humanitarian efforts (and also his anti-alien agendas). I imagine Lex's machinations will have Bruce come to town. Knowing Skyder, we'll probably get a proper Mercy Graves on screen. Not to mention we need a human Dragon for Bruce to tango with.

I highly doubt Doomsday will factor so soon. With Lex in there, perhaps Metallo or even Parasite could be used. Somebody born from the super-science Lex is associated with.

[Nowhere Man]

I really don't want them to just use Wonder Woman as arm-candy for Supes or Batman. It just seems really, well, wrong for the world's most famous super-heroine to finally get her time to shine on the big screen, only to show up as somebody's girlfriend.

Actually, a fight with Metallo would be a great choice for WW to make her debut, since his Kryptonite weaponry would be too much for Superman, and his, y'know, being-an-indestructible-killer-cyborg would be too much for Batman to handle, so they'd need a heavy-hitter who isn't affected by the K.

[McLegend]

How do people know he's affected by Kryptonite?

[Nowhere Man]

I'd assume that would be established early in the movie--say, there's some leftover debris from Zod's World Engine in the first movie that somehow got irradiated, and Superman stumbles across it while helping rebuild Metropolis. Then Lex Luthor (assuming he's in the movie) watches Superman's reaction to it and weaponizes it later in the movie.

[Lock Jaw]

Latest "rumours" have Denzel Washington being "considered" for the role of Green Lantern in this movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

lol

[Lock Jaw]

Maybe they are just going to spring last minute that this is actually a Justice League movie

[Kalyx triaD]

I'll give them the benefit of simply having a lot of cameos and easter eggs. Otherwise, this is really sounding like a JL movie.

[McLegend]

There was early rumors of Denzel being up for Lex Luthor.

So again I believe no rumors when it comes to this movie.


Honestly Denzel as Green Lantern or Lex Luthor wouldn't be bad however.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I hope Ryan Reynolds returns.
:shifty:
http://heidelblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Green-Lantern.jpg

[Fignuts]

Everyone talks about how Reynolds would have been a better Guy Gardner, but I don't think so. For one thing, his look resembles Hal a lot more than Guy. Secondly, when Gardner gets serious, he portrays more of a rugged toughness, which I dunno if Reynolds can pull off. He did fine in scenes that called for Hal to be serious. He was especially good in the finale of the battle with Paralax.

Finally, I think a lot of people are more familiar with post-rebirth Hal, who is a mature, veteran superhero. In the early days of GL though, he was arrogant and cocky which suits Reynolds perfectly.

So yeah, I don't think the casting was off. I don't think the movie deserves all the hate it gets either. I don't think it was even bad. There was just too many other hero flicks being released that were better, tbh.

[Kalyx triaD]

I would never defend something by saying their were too many better contenders besides it.

[Fignuts]

Well regardless, I still enjoyed it.

Only thing I didn't really like was that the suit looked crappy when he was just standing around. In motion in looked good.

[McLegend]

Also anyone ever think that Ryan Reynolds hurt the movie?

Hate to do the whole overrated thing, but Ryan Reynolds is overrated. I like him, and he is funny, but I don't find him to be a Leading man.

[Kalyx triaD]

I kinda don't want him to be Deadpool anymore tbh.

[Innovator]

Hearing a rumor that The Rock might be John Stewart

[Kalyx triaD]

lol No.

[Reavant]

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[Lock Jaw]

Read a terrible "rumour" about Wonder Woman's origins in this movie world. Hope it isn't true.

[mitchables]

saw that rumour too. can tell you what, if they roll with it, they are gonna cost themselves big-time with pretty much any woman who would otherwise have been excited to see the film. they were pushing it with the intimation she would be relegated to arm-candy status for most of the film. this will just send every femblog that has even a passing interest in comics into an absolute tail-spin of rage if it ends up being the truth

[Blitz]

Y'all gonna link on this rumour, or what.

[mitchables]

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/batman-vs-superman-wonder-woman-rumour-troubles-fans-231000829.html?.tsrc=att

still an unsubstantiated claim at this point

i am spending most of my last sub-25,000 posts on you, blitz, and i would not have it any other way

[Blitz]

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/batman-vs-superman-wonder-woman-rumour-troubles-fans-231000829.html?.tsrc=att

still an unsubstantiated claim at this point

i am spending most of my last sub-25,000 posts on you, blitz, and i would not have it any other way
Ya would be dumb. Seems like they'd be throwing a bunch of character possibilities away if true, but given that we're still a ways away from any kind of substantiated claim on anything regarding this flick, I'll take it with a generous grain of salt.

Luv u though :heart:

[Fignuts]

Honestly seems like a pretty decent explanation of how the amazonians came about. I'd bet money that if it was in some elseworlds book, a lot of the people bitching would be praising it as genius.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah I actually like the remix. Not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. It keeps a lot of the tenets and tropes of the Amazonian culture, without adhering to their mythology - which might have been a lot to digest given the tone of what the DC Cinematic Universe may evolve into.

It's a very smart remix. Yes, I would have liked to see how they would make her comic origins work but if it's gotta change then we have a fucking winner.

[Krimzon7]

Godammit Kal! I wanted to be the first to come in here and trumpet the smarkness of this idea.

Seriously, DC (and for the most part Nolan) wanted to ground as much of their superheroes in reality as possible. The fact that The Fortress of Solitude is an abandoned ship (that had a birthing chamber) didn't bother anyone at all...This is a smart way to explain amazons, it is a smart way to explain why they are/were secluded from humanity, but it shouldn't be used as a way to depower Diana. She is always on par with Supes. He needs Wonder Woman to be Powerful just as much as female readers do.

[Nowhere Man]

The only way I'd accept them depowering Wondy is if they use it to strike a 'happy medium' between Superman and Batman, i.e. Supes is all power but no skill, Batman is all skill but no power, so Wonder Woman would be the ideal balance between both.

[Kalyx triaD]

I have to believe even a Kryptonian evolved to live here is still a rather tough person.

[McLegend]

In the Comics does Wonder Woman fly?


Personally I want to see her fly. I liked that she could do it in Justice League.

[Kalyx triaD]

Her flight ability seems to be a constant, yes. But I wouldn't mind if she couldn't.

[Nowhere Man]

Not sure how accurate this source is, but evidently the Kryptonian rumor isn't true:

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/exclusive-description-gal-gadots-wonder-woman-costume

Personally, I'm all for keeping Wonder Woman purely mythological instead of tying her origin to Superman's. One of my favorite differences between Marvel and DC is how they approach the supernatural: in Marvel, it's all ancient aliens or interdimensional beings or whatever, but in DC, gods are real gods and Magic is Magic with a capital M. It'd be nice if there were more distinct differences between the movie-verses beyond "Marvel is really fun and colorful and DC so far is drab and depressing."

[Kalyx triaD]

A rare case where I'm disappointment an extraordinary rumor is not true.

[Lock Jaw]

"Marvel is really fun and colorful and DC so far is drab and depressing."

No idea how it ended up like this, because the majority of the actual comic book history, it has been the opposite in the comics.

[Kalyx triaD]

>>> Nolan.

[Fignuts]

No idea how it ended up like this, because the majority of the actual comic book history, it has been the opposite in the comics.

I wouldn't say that at all. It really depends on who's working on the books.

[Reavant]

Id say marvel has always been more character based rather than cape based in that they put more of an emphasis on the people behind the mask where as DC at least used to put the emphasis on the superhero doing superhero things. DC is trying to do more of that now, but just based on the characters themselves its hard to a superman or bat man book where you dont see him in the suit for the majority of it, where as in a wolverine or spiderman book, you can see them outside of their costumes for an entire book.

that said, the entire tone of the marvel does seem brighter to me. Theres millions of people with powers and abilities. DC, seems like you just have the big heros as gods looking down with not too many others with powers. I think a lot of DC being dark and dreary is headed by batman and his saturation in everything DC. Theres like 10 batman nooks right now.

[Krimzon7]

and all 10 are awesome.

[Reavant]

not arguing that

[Krimzon7]

I just wanted to be able to come in with that zinger.

[dronepool]

I'm not "pissed" but if it's true Wonder Woman not being mythological is stupid.

As for Marvel/DC to me it seems most Marvel movie has more campiness than I would like and I prefer the atmosphere of V For Vendetta/Watchmen/MOS/Nolan Batman. I mean Iron Man 1 and Avengers are really good but it seems like they like to throw in more jokes than sub plots. DC movies seem to have more sub plots and I like that.

[JimmyMess]

maybe they're going with the darker tone of DC because they tried the more humor-based way with Green Lantern and weren't happy with the results.

[McLegend]

This has been pushed back until May 6, 2016.

[Kalyx triaD]

Ultron reigns alone.

[JimmyMess]

COCKSUCKERS!!!

[slik]

I'm not "pissed" but if it's true Wonder Woman not being mythological is stupid.



Same here.

The Greek mythology aspect is probably one of the endearing traits of the character.

[slik]

This has been pushed back until May 6, 2016.

It's going up against an unannounced Marvel film (rumored to be Dr. Strange).

I think X-Men: Age of Apocalypse comes out a week after as well.

[Lock Jaw]

Probably for the best. There was just too much in 2015.

[Lock Jaw]

Maybe they want Arrow and The Flash TV series to get to a certain point and then integrate them into the movie somehow. Everyone else is already in the movie.

[Fignuts]

I'm not "pissed" but if it's true Wonder Woman not being mythological is stupid.

As for Marvel/DC to me it seems most Marvel movie has more campiness than I would like and I prefer the atmosphere of V For Vendetta/Watchmen/MOS/Nolan Batman. I mean Iron Man 1 and Avengers are really good but it seems like they like to throw in more jokes than sub plots. DC movies seem to have more sub plots and I like that.

Yeah, Marvel movies are a lot closer to source material, as comics as a whole have moved more towards over the top action, spliced with dry wit. It's whats in, and the marvel movies strayed closer to that, than the gritty realistic stuff.

I'm pretty much marvel for life, and I love that they adapted the writing style of guys like Bendis and Brubaker so well onto the screen, but I love even more that we have that and the gritty realistic style of the DC movies.

Comes down to personal preference. The way they built to Avengers definitely plays a factor, but as a guy who is always reading the new comic releases, I love that style.

[parkmania]

This has been pushed back until May 6, 2016.

It's going up against an unannounced Marvel film (rumored to be Dr. Strange).

I think X-Men: Age of Apocalypse comes out a week after as well.

Warner Bros. has moved the debut date of its Superman/Batman movie from June 26, 2015 (see "Batman/Superman Team-Up Film in 2015") to May 6, 2016, the same weekend that is slated to see the debut of an as-yet-unnamed Marvel movie. This may not be the last shuffle of superhero movie dates for the spring of 2016. Fox’s X-Men: Apocalypse is currently set to open a week later and Sony’s Amazing Spider-Man 3 is close behind.

Deadline is reporting that Warner Bros. is giving the Superman/Batman date to Pan, Joe Wright’s 3-D action movie updating of Peter Pan. The switch to the June 26th date keeps Pan from having to open against what is expected to be a blockbuster comedy Ted 2 from Seth McFarlane and Universal and keeps the Superman/Batman film from having to open between a Fantastic Four movie and a reboot of the Terminator franchise. Deadline also reports that an unnamed Warner executive denied rumors that the delay in Superman/Batman is due to a leg injury sustained by Ben Affleck who is playing Batman.

[Nowhere Man]

Hopefully the delay means they'll spend extra time on the screenplay, since so far this project seems extremely rushed. Plus, Man of Steel's biggest weakness was its script, so some extra time to spit-polish this one might be a good thing.

[JimmyMess]

how is 2 years rushed?

[Nowhere Man]

Considering that Marvel took four years and five movies to build up to The Avengers, WB trying to get their own team-up movie in half the time and after only one movie, yeah, that seems rushed.

[slik]

Possible MAJOR SPOILERS for the film

latino-review.com/2014/01/superman-v-batman-release-date-change-triggers-massive-plot-rumors/ (http://latino-review.com/2014/01/superman-v-batman-release-date-change-triggers-massive-plot-rumors/)

• The villians are Lex Luthor and Metallo

• Batman forms a UN type deal to stop Superman from destroying another city

• Aquaman is in it, but not called Aquaman. He’s there because the world engine in the ocean did something to the fish

• Wonderwoman poses as a Wayne Enterprises investor to retrieve an item that belongs to her people.

• Lex Luthor is in the shadows a lot, a manipulator. Not much face time with Superman.

• Robin betrayed Batman at some point, leading to a falling out between them

• The Batcave was super cool looking, and the mobile looked similar to Burton’s

• Lois is investigating Lex.

• Metallo “kills” Clark

• The Daily Planet is bought by Lex Luthor for PR purposes

• At the end Superman is living in exile, and the Justice League is an government approved superhero team.

These sound pretty practical. If Rock is indeed in talks for a roll I could see him as Metallo

[Kalyx triaD]

LR is a legit site, but rumors that claim to have notes on the ending of something is major red flag.

[Reavant]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/cig0q_bcZxM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Damian Rey]

Checked out both Batman-News and Batman on Film, and neither are reporting anything concerning Affleck quitting. Also, did I hear the guy in that video say Batman/Superman was teased in I Am Legend? Was a team up movie really teased in a film that was exclusively showing a prologue for the biggest movie of 2008 in Imax showings?

[Lock Jaw]

There was a sign seen in the background or something

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/1tGXEATdxIc/maxresdefault.jpg

[Damian Rey]

Yeah I remeber seeing the sign. Just the idea of anything being hinted is kind of ridiculous, considering the Dark Knight was coming out and we all knew no Superman movie was happening anytime soon.

Just complaining, I guess.

Honestly, if Affleck does drop out, I will be pretty bummed. After letting the announcement sink in, and really thinking about it, I loved the idea of Affleck taking over. Definitely has the look, and the chops. Was really looking forward to seeing his take on the character.

Also, with this being pushed back and Affleck's Argo writer on the prject to clean up whatever it is Goyer submitted gives me hope the film we be much better than the first, and not be so bludgeoning and more focused.

[Kalyx triaD]

Bad news is bad. You linked stuff from that channel before, Reav, it's not reliable. At all.

[Reavant]

actually I havnt. I usually do from clevver movies who has actually been reliable. I posted another from this channel today in the xmen thread, but it was explained as a cool fake

[Kalyx triaD]

If the past ones were from Clevver then you are literally better off reading the threads here. They are miles behind.

[Damian Rey]

Has anyone nominated Idris Elba for Green Lantern? Think he'd be perfect.

[RP]

That's racist!

[Kalyx triaD]

I love Idris but I really don't see what makes him a great GL Jon. And casting the Rock would be too on the nose.

[Damian Rey]

Just feel he has, the look and presence. Personally do not like the idea of the Rock anywhere near this movie.

[JimmyMess]

Checked out both Batman-News and Batman on Film, and neither are reporting anything concerning Affleck quitting. Also, did I hear the guy in that video say Batman/Superman was teased in I Am Legend? Was a team up movie really teased in a film that was exclusively showing a prologue for the biggest movie of 2008 in Imax showings?

It had nothing to do with this, it was just a cool thing they put in that movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

Warner Bros. Pictures announced today that Jesse Eisenberg has been set to star as Lex Luthor and Jeremy Irons will play Alfred in the upcoming Zack Snyder untitled Superman/Batman film.

[Kalyx triaD]

I take it Alfred will a bit of an edge with Irons on him.

Gonna have to see how that Lex casting will work out.

[slik]

Not sure what to think of this yet.

Scar from the Lion King is Alfred, hmmm.

Jessie Eisenberg playing a wealthy young genius? Is Lex going to be like Mark Zuckerberg but evil?

[Miotch]

Eisenberg can certainly pull off smug and arrogant.

[Reavant]

even though hes like the nicest guy in real life. good actor

[McLegend]

I like the Eisenberg casting.

[Lock Jaw]

Unsure about it, so I shall see. I would have preferred an older Luthor, but really I will just settle for a good movie Luthor.

[Hanso Amore]

Both talented actors so that bodes well. Not typical choices but what casting has?

Love irons so that could be amazing. Would rather have seen him play Luthor.

I still dream of Kevin spacey as Luthor. That would be amazing. No way to fuck that hat up.

[Kalyx triaD]

The 'Returns/quasi-Donner universe is long done so Spacey can't return, but I would have loved him as 'CEO Lex' rather than 'Evil Housing Guy Lex'.

[Lock Jaw]

Heisenberg, not Eisenberg.

[Kalyx triaD]

I copy-pasted, sorry.

[Nowhere Man]

Not sure how reliable this source is, but they're saying Christopher Nolan is out as producer of BvS, and Geoff Johns is taking over.

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/geoff-johns-now-executive-producer-batman-vs-superman-nolan-out

I really don't know what to make of this. On the one hand, removing Nolan means they'll be stepping further out of the shadow of the Dark Knight movies, and hopefully they won't have the same oppressively dark and moody tone that hurt Man of Steel so severely. On the other hand, Nolan tends to make really good movies, and the last major flick that Johns had a hand in was Green Lantern, which went over like a wet fart in church. So.......yeah.

[Kalyx triaD]

If the DC movie-verse is to grow this is probably for best, but I don't know about Johns pulling some of the strings. So long as Snyder and Goyer have their act together.

[Damian Rey]

Nolan didn't have much, if anything to do with MoS. Him leaving makes little difference. I am just hoping that the Argo writer who was brought in to clean the script up does a bang up job, and that the movie is better paced and not all over the place like MoS.

Also hoping the push back means WB realized the script needs more fine tuning and may be a bit overstuffed if all these rumors we hear are true, and decide to tone it down a bit and make this a better film than the first.

That being said, I like the recent castings. Irons as Alfred is intriguing. He's kind of a grandiose choice, but he's still a fine actor. Just hope he's given enough to work with that he can actually stand out the way his predecessors have in the role.

Eisenberg is a really interesting choice. I hope Lex is closer in relation to the animated counterparts rather the film versions. Animated Lex is bad ass.

[KIRA]

The one thing I hope they manage to bring to the screen is that witty back and forth Superman and Batman have in Public enemies /worlds finest its not over the top funny like Avengers or Iron Man but its no less fun to hear them and see how they play off one another. Supes has GOT to be more optimistic in MoS 2 in order for that to happen.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well even if they wanted to go with the classic light/dark dynamic, that would have to be after they're friends (>> Justice League movie). It seems like they're going with a young man/old dog thing here.

[KIRA]

You don't think they could even use the " I kinda hate that guy but I think respect him" dynamic from the worlds finest cartoon?

[Kalyx triaD]

Well that's classic buddy cop movie stuff anyway, but even the DCAU movie built on the contrast of their styles that only really worked because of the benefit of both of them having their own shows running concurrently. We don't even know Batfleck yet, and the tricky bit here is Superman's not that much lighter than Batman given MoS' direction.

Batfleck would have to be the most depressing fucker ever to translate the contrast from the comics/cartoon, or Clark would need to be written way lighter.

[KIRA]

Speaking of Ben I'm still waiting for a friend to prove to me that Affleck can do a decent job as Batman, As Bruce Wayne Ive every confidence that Affleck can play a rich,cocky asshole.

[Kalyx triaD]

Why is the burden on him to prove that? lol

Ben's a good actor who already knows Batman in and out. There's a good chance he knows what he's doing. He wouldn't so eagerly embarrass himself.

[KIRA]

Why is the burden on him to prove that? lol

Ben's a good actor who already knows Batman in and out. There's a good chance he knows what he's doing. He wouldn't so eagerly embarrass himself.


Because he has a massive man crush on Affleck and can't understand why I prefer Ben behind the camera rather than in front(that said I did enjoy The Town)

But he's no Matt Damon (obligatory joke you understand)

[Damian Rey]

Think Affleck will shine, depending on what he's given to work with. He's got the looks, got the build and has the ability. So long as the character is written/presented well, Affleck will do fine.

[Fignuts]

Why is the burden on him to prove that? lol

Ben's a good actor who already knows Batman in and out. There's a good chance he knows what he's doing. He wouldn't so eagerly embarrass himself.


Gili

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, yeah.

[loopydate]

Daredevil

[Kalyx triaD]

Not even his fault.

I mean, what would be his win/loss ratio?

[Skippord]

where did the "Ben Affleck is a good actor" rumor start?

[McLegend]

Pearl Harbor

[McLegend]

Paycheck

[McLegend]

Surviving Christmas

[McLegend]

Jersey Girl

[McLegend]

I could keep going to.

[Miotch]

To where?

[McLegend]

To the Wonder!

[Fignuts]

where did the "Ben Affleck is a good actor" rumor start?

Probably with Argo.

I liked him in Dogma. Though he's always good when he has Damon to play off of.

[Blitz]

The whole "person X is only capable of shittiness because they were a part of these movies" is a really fantastic way to spot people who don't really bother thinking about how the movie business works.

[JimmyMess]

He was good in a lot of movies:

Chasing Amy, Dogma, The Town, Argo, Boiler Room, Smokin' Aces,

to name a few

[Reavant]

gigli :shifty:

[Fignuts]

The whole "person X is only capable of shittiness because they were a part of these movies" is a really fantastic way to spot people who don't really bother thinking about how the movie business works.

No one said that.

[Kalyx triaD]

Like 83 people are saying just that.

[GD]

I have no faith in Snyder. They are making the Justice League movie as a panic response to the Avengers.

[Kalyx triaD]

I mean, they gotta do it sometime. And you can't reasonably expect them to emulate the multi-year movie by movie set-up, the first JL movie would come out by Avengers 5.

It was clearly gonna be fast tracked, reversing Marvel's plan with movies spinning off after the fact rather than a build up. They had no choice and I'm sympathetic to that.

Unless you had a better plan in mind.

[Fignuts]

Like 83 people are saying just that.

No, they are responding to your post stating that he wouldn't embarrass himself, by posting movies they feel are shitty.

[Kalyx triaD]

Good for them, I guess.

[Fignuts]

Well, the point of a message board is for someone to say something, and others to respond, so yes, good for them.

[Damian Rey]

I mean, they gotta do it sometime. And you can't reasonably expect them to emulate the multi-year movie by movie set-up, the first JL movie would come out by Avengers 5.

It was clearly gonna be fast tracked, reversing Marvel's plan with movies spinning off after the fact rather than a build up. They had no choice and I'm sympathetic to that.

Unless you had a better plan in mind.

"They gotta do it sometime" doesn't mean they have to do it now. Who gives a shit how many Avengers movies come out by the time JL is done with characters who had their own well written, well produced films? It's not like superheroes are a dying breed.

By rushing, Warner is taking a huge risk that general audiences are going to give a shit about the characters they're stuffing into a MOS sequel, without giving those characters a few hours of their own to develop personalities.

The reason Avengers worked is due the fact that most people had a pretty good idea of each character, and taking those characters and pitting them at odds in a film was interesting and ultimately incredibly entertaining.

That doesn't work if they tried doing Avengers first and then spinning off. There wouldn't be enough time in a 3 hour film to give potential new comers Flash, WW, Lantern and Aquaman time to develop enough character and personality to actually make people care about them.

Look at Green Lantern. You see Sinestro and the rest of the corps for all of, what, 10 minutes, if that? I didn't give a shit about any of those characters and they literally have no memorable moments in the film and were there soley to get into the film and progress the plot.

That's what I can see happening if WB doesn't just accept that Marvel is miles ahead of them and gives in to making singular films for their heroes before making a JL film. Hell, I can see it as an advantage for them doing that. At that point, Marvel will have been around so long, with some characters possibly losing steam, that general audiences may be even more inclined to give different characters under different styles a try.

[Kalyx triaD]

The reality here is the superhero movie sub-genre is probably finite in terms of returns (young adult fantasies are already catching up) and WB simply can't risk spending the better part of a decade building up to a movie only we would care about when it launches.

[alvarado52]

Regardless of the various degrees of success in film, WB could have done themselves a huge favor if they had signed on the talent from previous movies such as JGL as Batman or Ryan Reynolds as GL. At least then, movie goers would know these characters as established.

[Kalyx triaD]

I would have accepted that.

[Damian Rey]

The reality here is the superhero movie sub-genre is probably finite in terms of returns (young adult fantasies are already catching up) and WB simply can't risk spending the better part of a decade building up to a movie only we would care about when it launches.

Why? What's the bigger risk? Building up hype to a movie with solid or better singular films at a lesser budget to build interest? Or pouring the undoubtedly immense budget it's going to take to make a JL film with characters nobody other than us knows about and hoping people will care enough to take a flyer?

Did anyone ever think gen. audiences would give a shit about an Avengers movie? Nobody cared about Iron Man, Capt America or Thor prior to Marvel deciding it was time to give those characters their own films and build them up for a team up.

If Avengers had come out after Iron Man, it would not have been the same and dare I say, the success of that film, the films around it, and Marvel as a franchise would not be the same.

By building, WB is giving gen. audiences a chance to care about a team up film when it finally does launch. How is building hype instead of just rushing to pay off a bad risk? I'm not getting it.

[Damian Rey]

I don't think people would buy JGL as Batman. Bruce Wayne is always a safe bet. But it could have worked.

GL was such a disaster. I wonder if they ever had any idea about a sequel after the film was released. They clearly had one prior to such.

[Kalyx triaD]

The risk is people not caring by the time they do it. Your argument hinges on these movies maintaining their returns. It may stay consistent if they do it the Marvel way, but it may not. And WB/DC are the kind of people who are scared to death of taking risks.

[Damian Rey]

There's also risk in assuming people other than those like us want to see a JL team up and would shell out enough money to meet a successful return on a team up of heroes nobody has seen before.

Feel like the Marvel way is the best way. The only team up that would make sense at this point is Batman v Superman just because of the way the first film ended and the obvious casting to this point.

[Damian Rey]

By the way, didn't see it mentioned here, but I saw this on Batman-News. Pertaining to Lex Luthor in the film...

Lex Luthor is BALD. His head is shaven to be exact. But that is not all. He has another physical trait. You see, Lex Luthor is also into body art and has a detailed sleeve tattoo of the Metropolis skyline on his right arm. Lex is also the richest man on the planet who became a self made billionaire at 18. Lex is currently the CEO of Lexcorp who is one part tech genius, one part ruthless business man and two parts Metropolis street tough. Yes, street tough.

We meet Lex early on in the story when Bruce Wayne first pays him a visit at his 125th floor penthouse located inside Lexcorp Tower. Lex is sitting at his desk in front of an array of computer screens. Bruce considers Superman an impressive specimen. Lex considers him an alien, and a trespasser that doesn’t belong on this planet. Superman is just one of the reasons Bruce came to visit Metropolis. He has an interest in the city’s tragic circumstances. More like profitable circumstances according to Lex.

The rebuilding of Metropolis is Bruce Wayne’s main priority and is in town to help. Bruce believes pooling their resources would better serve the citizens of Metropolis and Bruce is willing to put his differences with Lex aside and let bygones be bygones.

Interesting...

[alvarado52]

Let's also consider that Marvel has MUCH more freedom to stay true to their characters and story lines since they have their own studio (though that may change or may not with Disney).

I'm not entirely sure DC has this freedom with the WB.

[Damian Rey]

WB owns DC, right? Figured that would give them even more flexibility.

[alvarado52]

Yes and no. Consider that WB is, first and foremost, a television media company, they naturally will want much more control over that.

Disney is a general company now, with parks, tv, their own character roster, movies, games, etc. I think they're a little more open to letting their franchise branches do whatever theyre gonna do, so long as it stays semi-kid friendly.

Besides, Disney purchased Marvel after they had established their Avengers roster with their own films. It was after that that Disney saw Marvel as something profitable. Doubt they cared about comics prior to then (and still probably dont).

[DaveBrawl]

GL was such a disaster. I wonder if they ever had any idea about a sequel after the film was released. They clearly had one prior to such.
I view GL in much the same way as the Hulk. The first Hulk movie was pretty bad, and the second wasn't much better than GL (now granted I liked Green Lantern so I'm not saying either of the two were terrible). Nobody wanted to see Hulk in another solo movie, but along comes Avengers and he's one of the highlights of the movie. So maybe if they can turn Green Lantern around in this movie, if he's even in it, then they could definitely set the table for a sequel/spinoff if they don't want to use Hal.

As for needing separate movies, it may not be necessary for DC like it was for Marvel. I mean almost everyone knows Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and their stories. I'd say most even know Aquaman if he's to be used. Green Arrow and Flash have their own tv series' that have explained their origins. All that's really left is the Martian Manhunter and Cyborg.

Manhunter would probably be the trickiest to work into this story though. Although maybe an alien from yet another planet could feed Lex's delusions and schemes. You also have to wonder which Lantern they will be using. Jordan is explained already even if the movie did leave some to be desired. However the Rock has sent out several tweets mentioning:

#LanternCanWhupSuperman
#JohnStewartCanStillWhupSupermansAss

So that could be more time used as well if it's true.

[Damian Rey]

Batman and Superman, yes. WW? Flash? Lantern? No. Outside of the two landmark heroes, none of DC's other properties have received any relevant mainstream attention in decades, if at all.

Wonder Woman was popular in the 70s, and that's been it for her. Aquaman, Lantern, Cyborg, Manhunter, etc. have received little to no exposure, save the occasional JL animated film. They're not on the level of recognition that Bats and Supes are. Banking on the general audience knowing them and their stories is ludicrous to me. There's been zero exposure on almost any relevant scale for any of those characters.

Lantern's movie was awful. I mean, really awful. Maybe one of the worst major comic book movies in the current era after Batman Begins kicked everything off in 2005, followed by the Marvel movement.

Both Hulk movies had what the other didn't; Hulk had a better back story, and was a better written film, but lacked compelling action. Incredible Hulk had a shit ton of high paced action, a better score, IMO, but the story wasn't as compelling. I'd say they're about even, but are far from bad. Especially compared to Green Lantern.

And while Arrow and Flash have their own shows, there's been zero indication that either of those characters' continuities will be integrated into MOS' world.

And God, I hope the Rock does not play Lantern. Like, seriously hope.

[DaveBrawl]

Even if the actors and shows aren't integrated, and Green Arrow may not even be in the JLA movie, at least people will know the Flash's origins and the basics of what he's about just like with Green Lantern. Even if you didn't care for the movie it did explain what Hal was about and how he got his powers and that's all that is really needed to feed him into the story, unless they go with John Stewart and even then Oa, the rings and the corp are already established. Maybe they aren't established in this "universe" but it would be easy enough to bleed it all over and change the tone.

Nobody is on the level of recognition Batman or Superman are DC or Marvel. They have 75 years of pop culture behind them. Iron Man was essentially a nobody to the public before his movie and look at him now. He's the face of their franchise. Batman and Superman are the face of DC and they are already established, and I would argue that Wonder Woman is too. Would it have been nice to have a refresher for her? Sure, but she will be easy enough to explain. The rest are just ancillary characters to this movie so they only need to be so fleshed out and this will provide the entry point for them and the JLA movie can expand even more on it kind of like Hawkeye and Black Widow were done with Avengers.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cdn1-www.superherohype.com/assets/uploads/2014/02/gal-gadot-muscles.jpg

[parkmania]

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/p261x260/1907307_599063973519820_1511410657_n.jpg


Might just be ok, after all.

[VSG]

Wait, when did the movie get pushed back a further year?

[KIRA]

Wait, when did the movie get pushed back a further year?

That was my question

[McLegend]

2 months ago

[parkmania]

Published: 01/18/2014 12:58am



Warner Bros. has moved the debut date of its Superman/Batman movie from June 26, 2015 (see "Batman/Superman Team-Up Film in 2015") to May 6, 2016, the same weekend that is slated to see the debut of an as-yet-unnamed Marvel movie. This may not be the last shuffle of superhero movie dates for the spring of 2016. Fox’s X-Men: Apocalypse is currently set to open a week later and Sony’s Amazing Spider-Man 3 is close behind.

Deadline is reporting that Warner Bros. is giving the Superman/Batman date to Pan, Joe Wright’s 3-D action movie updating of Peter Pan. The switch to the June 26th date keeps Pan from having to open against what is expected to be a blockbuster comedy Ted 2 from Seth McFarlane and Universal and keeps the Superman/Batman film from having to open between a Fantastic Four movie and a reboot of the Terminator franchise. Deadline also reports that an unnamed Warner executive denied rumors that the delay in Superman/Batman is due to a leg injury sustained by Ben Affleck who is playing Batman.

The postponed debut of Superman/Batman is a blow, though hardly a mortal one, to Warner Bros. plans to create a DC equivalent to Marvel’s presence in the cinematic sphere. In spite of the solid success of Zack Snyder’s reboot of the Superman movie franchise with Man of Steel this past summer, audiences will now have to wait until the spring of 2016 for another DC superhero tentpole. At this point the Warner Bros./DC movie axis is chugging along like a Trabant while Disney and Marvel dominate the fast lane with a top-of-the line Range Rover. In the ever fickle world of pop culture things can change in a hurry (Marvel Studio’s fortunes could plummet if Guardians of the Galaxy flops), but the pace of change in the Warner Bros. attempt to utilize DC’s stable of heroes on the big screen appears to be little better than glacial.

[VSG]

Booo

[KIRA]

hisss

Seriously DC needs to step up they're getting their ass kicked

Then again it might be a case of you want this done fast or do you want it done right?

[loopydate]

I think it's option C. You don't want this done the same summer as Avengers 2.

[DaveBrawl]

Didn't Dark Knight Rises come out the same summer as the Avengers? I think we're overestimating how worried they are about the Avengers.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well it was a Nolan film is a celebrated trilogy. I have to imagine Avengers 2 was at least on the 'cons' list of sticking to the date.

[Lock Jaw]

They are delaying so that The Flash show can get started and can get to a certain point before Flash makes an appearance in the movie.

[Lock Jaw]

*The above post is entirely fictional news

[parkmania]

They are delaying so that The Flash show can get started and can get to a certain point before Flash makes an appearance in the movie.

*The above post is entirely fictional news

If it were Marvel I could totally believe it. They supposedly have the entire movieverse (and TV tie-ins) plotted out through 2021.

Marvel Studios Has Movies Planned Through to 2021

by Rob Keyes , Updated February 16th, 2014 at 9:24 am,

Two-and-a-half years ago, Marvel President of Consumer Products Paul Gitter spoke about the future of Marvel Studios and how they were beginning to brand around the tagline “Avengers Assemble.” He revealed that there was a master plan in place all way up to 2017.

Since that time, Captain America, Thor, The Avengers and most recently, Iron Man 3, hit theaters, breaking multiple records around the world – all of which was in the planning stages as far back as 2006. Today, Marvel has at least another four years planned out beyond 2017.

In speaking with Wired about the young Marvel Studios and how they began their now-headline-breaking panels at Comic-Con as far back as 2006, Marvel President of Production Kevin Feige teased that there’s much more to come.

“I could arguably say what we’re planning for the year 2021. Will that happen? I don’t know. But what we planned for 2015 in 2006 is happening.”

Going forward, it’s about growing the franchise beyond the characters who’ve seen success in theaters already.

“Five years ago, looking at our plan, we knew that if Avengers was going to work, the movies had to stand alone. Now we have to prove to the studio that we’re more than just these five characters, these five franchises.”

So just how does Feige and Marvel orchestrate a massive shared film universe, managing multiple in-production projects at once, while also picking and choosing obscure characters from Marvel Comics to invest in (i.e. Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, etc.)?

“Disney has allowed us to be a relatively small, tight-knit brain trust. These billion-dollar ventures come down to 10 people or fewer in a room saying, ‘You know what would be cool?’”

The big questions of course are what additional new characters and properties could make their way to theaters in between threequels to Captain America, Thor and The Avengers and will the studio ever push three movies out in one year? We know Ant-Man comes after The Avengers: Age of Ultron and sometime after that Doctor Strange will get his own film.

As it stands, Disney and Marvel Studios planted their feet in the ground earlier this summer to lay claim to key summer weekends in 2016 and 2017 but they’re not prepared to discuss what those projects are quite yet. Feige previously said we’d learn about those in 2014, and we expect that means it’ll be part of their Comic-Con panel next year.

In the meantime, Marvel needs to keep fans focused on what’s coming out now. Iron Man 3 offered the strongest start imaginable to Phase Two of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, cementing its place as the fourth top-grossing film of all-time, sitting right behind The Avengers (and James Cameron). Going forward however, Marvel needs to promote the sequels to Thor (watch the new trailer!) and Captain America which are being used to test non-summer dates for the studio. Thor: The Dark World releases this November, Captain America: The Winter Soldier in April, and even Guardians of the Galaxy – the studio’s riskiest bet to date – is testing an August release date, leaving the key summer weekends next year to partners at Fox and Sony to release X-Men: Days of Future Past and The Amazing Spider-Man 2, respectively.


This year Feige has gone on record multiple times explaining his desire and the studio’s need to keep crafting movies that offer something different. We saw that in Iron Man 3 and we’re absolutely getting it from the Cap/Thor sequels and Guardians. Doctor Strange opens up the Marvel Cinematic Universe to the mystical and magical side of things which has yet to be explored, but what else remains beyond that we don’t quite know. Another, different Hulk movie? Heroes for Hire? The Inhumans?

What movies would you like to see going forward? Did we mention that Marvel has literally eight years of movies in development?

_____

Thor: The Dark World on November 8, 2013, Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014, The Avengers: Age of Ultron on May 1, 2015, Ant-Man on November 6, 2015, and unannounced films for May 6 2016, July 8 2016 and May 5 2017.

Let me know on Twitter @rob_keyes what Marvel character you’d like to see most onscreen!

[The Destroyer]

Wonder if people will have gotten sick of comic book movies by 2021.

[Reavant]

nah probably not

[parkmania]

Keep the stories compelling and varied in tone, and I highly doubt it. George Reeves played Superman on TV for 6 consecutive years BUT THAT WAS in an era where entertainment options were less (and less varied).

[Reavant]

you kinda contradicted your point there...

[parkmania]

You're right. I blame the lack of sleep I've had recently. Editied the post to make the point better.

[DaveBrawl]

Well it was a Nolan film is a celebrated trilogy.

That's true, but you have people that will come out to see this movie just to see how Affleck does in it. It's a movie starring the two most famous comic characters of all. Unless it's a train wreck on the scale of Batman & Robin those two factors alone will likely make it a big success. They probably weren't happy about Avenger's coming out in the same summer and stealing some thunder, but I have serious doubts it scared them into moving it back an entire year especially when Marvel is putting out one or more of their movies every year anyway.

[Kalyx triaD]

Not saying it was the main factor, just that it was certainly on the list of cons that they'd go up against a powerhouse. At this rate, with Phase 2 movies rivaling The Avengers in quality, Cap 3 will probably still be a challenge.

[DaveBrawl]

That's what I was thinking. To me personally the singles movies that weren't Iron Man sequels have been better than the Avengers.

But then again I've enjoyed Man of Steel and the Wolverine more than any of those movies so I'm in the minority.

[GD]

I can't believe that you guys are still discussing about this horrible movie project. For fuck's sake, it is going to be directed by Snyder, have some respect for yourself.

[DaveBrawl]

I have enjoyed many of Zack Snyder's movies, I have no respect for myself.

[Kalyx triaD]

"What did you think, that deep down everyone was as ugly as you? You're alone."

[Blitz]

I can't believe that you guys are still discussing about this horrible movie project. For fuck's sake, it is going to be directed by Snyder, have some respect for yourself.
So edgy

[GD]

I was hammered. Cut me some slack.

[Damian Rey]

It's okay. Snyder does fucking suck.

[parkmania]

Holly Hunter has joined the cast of the untitled Superman vs. Batman movie, as well as Callan Mulvey and Tao Okamoto, according to The Hollywood Reporter. All three will appear as new characters created for the movie.

Mulvey can currently be seen as Scyllias in 300: Rise of an Empire, and has a minor role as Jack Rollins in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Okamoto played Logan’s love interest Mariko in The Wolverine.

The Superman vs. Batman movie is slated for May 6, 2016 (see “Ouch! 'Superman/Batman' Movie Bumped to 2016”).

[DaveBrawl]

Okamoto played Logan’s love interest Mariko in The Wolverine.

Well I already love this movie.

[Lock Jaw]

Ray Fisher cast to play Cyborg (the Teen Titan/Justice League member, not the Superman villain) in this movie

[Kalyx triaD]

lol what.

There you have it, they're two or three members shy of a full blown JLA film. I'm not hating on the prospect, either. Go for it.

[Sixx]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2975590/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1

Ummm, what's with Eisenberg as Luthor?

Is this confirmed or is the imdb staff just tryin' to be funny?

[DaveBrawl]

Confirmed.

[Sixx]

Confirmed.

Wow. I hope Michael Cera is Bane, then.

[alvarado52]

Introducing almost every JLA character in a single film...what a rush job. Just call it JLA and cross your damn fingers people give a shit.

[JimmyMess]

I still think its pretty stupid to call it Batman vs Superman. Hopefully they change it

[Damian Rey]

Depends on the plot. If it's literally them two at odds with each other trying to fend of Luthor, then the title is perfect. They don't have to fight physically to make the title work. They could just clash personality wise the entire movie and have the title fit.

The part I don't like is stuffing all these rumored JLA characters into the film. For one, it takes away from Supes' movie. He had all of one film to himself. Putting Batman in is interesting and different, so, even though I am somewhat against it, I get why they would do it. But trying to fit WW, Cyborg, Lantern, Flash etc into a 2.5 hour film that's a sequel to a stand alone Supes film is a huge risk in both making a good Superman film and giving enough time for the rest of the characters to matter.

We shall see. I would have much rather seen them just use Bats as a secondary character, spin him off to his own, new, rebooted series, and then start spinning off from there, having each film connect with one another via cameos or whatever.

[Sixx]

Isn't it a working title anyway?

[Kalyx triaD]

So far, yeah. I'm still holding out on "The World's Finest".