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ill stick with it but so far so lulz
I fucking hate you for this sentence.
Destor
02-04-2022, 12:55 PM
im gonna put that on t shirts and sell them in Poland
Fignuts
02-08-2022, 01:41 AM
So fucking happy to see Cad Bane in live action. Such a cool character. I want Aurra Singh in Mando season 3. Yeah they said she was killed in Solo, but that's piss easy to write yourself out of, considering we never saw it, and there were no details.
I imagine we'll get a flashback to Ashoka's first meeting with Luke in her own series.
Hilarious that the best episodes of this series barely have any Boba Fett in them.
Tom Guycott
02-08-2022, 05:26 AM
So fucking happy to see Cad Bane in live action. Such a cool character. I want Aurra Singh in Mando season 3. Yeah they said she was killed in Solo, but that's piss easy to write yourself out of, considering we never saw it, and there were no details.
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Easier still, when you consider that they did exactly that with Darth Maul. They showed what happened to him ONSCREEN in a movie to make it blatant he should have been dead, but apparently wasn't.
Ol Dirty Dastard
02-08-2022, 12:38 PM
So fucking happy to see Cad Bane in live action. Such a cool character. I want Aurra Singh in Mando season 3. Yeah they said she was killed in Solo, but that's piss easy to write yourself out of, considering we never saw it, and there were no details.
I imagine we'll get a flashback to Ashoka's first meeting with Luke in her own series.
Hilarious that the best episodes of this series barely have any Boba Fett in them.
I've enjoyed the series and would say episode 2 was probably up there. BUT completely neglecting boba fett for 2 eps straight was eyebrow raising.
Lock Jaw
02-08-2022, 02:46 PM
Yeah, just a super weird way to structure a tv show.
Also I have been looking at too many "like a bantha" memes
Lengua
02-08-2022, 11:28 PM
Pumped for the finale tonight.
Ol Dirty Dastard
02-09-2022, 10:15 AM
Baby face shine Boba Fett
Sepholio
02-09-2022, 10:19 AM
Book of Mandolorian was dope AF
Traitorous P'takh
Ol Dirty Dastard
02-09-2022, 10:35 AM
Hahahahaha
Ol Dirty Dastard
02-09-2022, 03:22 PM
I liked the finale but also didn't like it. Lots of action. Fun moments. But they didn't flesh out Boba enough (who'd have thunk that after neglecting him entirely for 2 episodes) nor did they really delve into any of the actual inner workings of Tatooine.
I'd give the season a b-minus based on the fact that I really did enjoy all of it. Just a lot of missed opportunities to really make something that had weight.
Lengua
02-10-2022, 02:34 PM
Obi wan takes place on tatooine so we got more time to spend there.
Ol Dirty Dastard
02-10-2022, 03:37 PM
lookin forward to Obi-Wan.
Lock Jaw
02-10-2022, 10:24 PM
Finally watched it.... was pretty cool.... but yeah, Boba Fett like the least cool/interesting part of the Boba Fett show. He didn't even kill all those people in the end, Fennec did. Would have been "cool" if he had "snapped" and "embraced" being a killer like Cad Bane said and ended up ruling with "fear" anyways.
Ol Dirty Dastard
02-10-2022, 10:31 PM
it's unfortunate because when they gave Boba stuff to do, he was cool. But they decided he didn't matter that much.
drave
02-11-2022, 09:46 AM
Slow Burn. They gotta build him up so they can tear him down when he turns to madness and starts putting the sharpshooter on everyone.
drave
02-11-2022, 09:47 AM
chop em down
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Fignuts
02-11-2022, 10:01 AM
it's unfortunate because when they gave Boba stuff to do, he was cool. But they decided he didn't matter that much.
In the last episode maybe? But for the most part I'd agree with the general consensus that he just came off as soft. Which is tragic, because I actually like the idea of Fett being taken in by tuskens and developing a more righteous cause to fight for. But you can do that without losing the ruthless efficiency that people wanted to see from him. That we got a glimpse of in the mandolorian.
The mod gang could have worked as well. They didn't have enough character to dislike them. The backlash has justifiably been their appearance. They're all too clean looking for tattooine. They would be great for a story on coruscant, but they stood out like sore thumbs on the dirty, grimey tattooine. I think if they were designed better no one would have ha a problem.
The Cad Bane fight was alright, but once again, cool star wars villain gets insta killed while having the advantage. Could have made that better. During the flashbacks with fett training with the tusken woman, have her pull that same move against fett. That way when fett does it against Bane it feels like more of a payoff. I would have also revealed that it was Bane specifically who the syndicate had kill the tuskens. Makes the payoff even bigger. Pay me, disney.
Ol Dirty Dastard
02-11-2022, 10:12 AM
I think viewing him as soft is the cry of the virgin basement dweller, personally. His journey was finding a way to blend his new found sentimentality with the proficiency of his old self which happened in the final ep (and was constantly hinted at in his over reliance on the Barca tank). Where there was a failure was fleshing out the inner workings that established him as a Michael Corleone. All glanced over and suggested instead of showing his ability to strategize. When it came time to show the evolution, it was just an action-filled clusterfuck.
Anyways, shows are allowed to not be perfect and come up short and still be enjoyable for what they are.
Ol Dirty Dastard
02-11-2022, 10:13 AM
And yeah the fact that they barely paid off the Tuskens was confounding and suggested to me the writing was hella rushed. Like they did 7 self contained episodes that they very quickly tried to tie together.
Ol Dirty Dastard
02-11-2022, 10:20 AM
They ran into a typical Star Wars problem in that the stories they chose not to tell were the most interesting.
And the writers themselves seemed way more invested in Din and Grogu than they did Boba Fett.
Fignuts
02-11-2022, 10:20 AM
No one asked for a sentimental Boba fett.
Ol Dirty Dastard
02-11-2022, 10:24 AM
You get swallowed by a pit monster in the most humiliating fashion and try be your old self.
Ol Dirty Dastard
02-11-2022, 10:29 AM
But your reaction is why this project was doomed from the beginning. Everyone has their own ideas of Boba Fett.
Fignuts
02-11-2022, 10:33 AM
Getting humiliated changed his motivations and led to him condemning all the idiots he worked for. That part of the show was well done. But he shouldn't have to change who he is or how he accomplishes those goals.
And yes, basement dwelling virgins want every character to be an edgy badass all the time. That doesn't mean that fett shouldn't be.
Fignuts
02-11-2022, 10:37 AM
But your reaction is why this project was doomed from the beginning. Everyone has their own ideas of Boba Fett.
No. That's just it. There are no varying theories on what Boba Fett should be, or who he is. Part of why he has become arguably the 2nd most popular character in star wars behind Darth Vader, is because everyone has been in agreement on what type of character fett is.
After almost 40 years, to not know how people see Boba fett and what they'd want from a show like this, is to be willfully ignorant.
Ol Dirty Dastard
02-11-2022, 10:40 AM
Lol I have a group of friends who’ve been stanning Boba Fett as long as you and didn’t take issue with his “softness.” So it’s obviously not that universal.
Fignuts
02-11-2022, 10:45 AM
Pretty sure the backlash this show is facing outnumbers your "group of friends".
Fignuts
02-11-2022, 10:46 AM
Also, not sure what the point was in having fett walk around without his helmet so much, when temura showed the emotional range of canned soup.
Corporate CockSnogger
02-12-2022, 02:42 PM
Never really seen the appeal of Boba Fett and definitely no appeal in him as an old man. Everything about Mando is 100x more interesting than Boba Fett and this show just highlighted that. Awful first four episodes, very fun last three.
Destor
02-12-2022, 10:40 PM
the finale was very good. im about to write a very critical post but over all i did enjoy the show and the finale felt like star wars and thats something the recent trilogy and mando havent done very well (mando is great but it feels like a western not star wars and that plays to its advantage in many ways but thats another convo all together.)
boba has dozens of issues.
the first is the mandolorian. amazing show. they gave us the boba fett show we always wanted...and then after giving is the boba fett show we always wanted...they gave us a boba fett show...k...?
sounds fine on paper i suppose but mando is and does everything we want from boba. so now we have to differentiate boba from his derivative but the derivative is more popular and more established now so the derivative lays claim to all the traits that make boba fett boba fett.
so...fuck. ok. lets write a rebirth angle and allow boba fett to become a new version of himself. thats the ticket...except now boba isn boba..mando is boba...so why make a boba show at all? we like green better than silver?
so now we exist in this bizarre paradox probably forever. i dunno.
also regarding mando
reuniting with grogu is a mistake. the character is marketable and popular but he reached a wonderful end to his story and to undo all that is a major misstep and i really wish they'd not done it. does s2 of mando have a point at all npw? its fun and heart warming to see them reunited but unless we're about to get some mando and grogu buddy cop stories i dont know what theyre thinking.
im on board but these are issues that are on my mind.
oh and those 1950s space mopeds are gay af.
Destor
02-12-2022, 10:46 PM
also boba comes off as impotent and nearly useless the entire show. thankfully he calls on the star of the other show to save him because thats a good way to establish why we should root for him...right?
Destor
02-12-2022, 10:47 PM
oh and he spends the 1st 2 eps being a slave to the sand people who have never been a credible threat for even 30 seconds in 45 years. booking so good the show shouldve aired on a monday.
Destor
02-12-2022, 10:50 PM
Cad was ace though. so cool.
Destor
02-12-2022, 10:50 PM
oh and lol @ him not being in 2 eps of his own show
Destor
02-12-2022, 10:51 PM
i had a good time watching it though its just weaker than it should be.
El Vaquero de Infierno
02-13-2022, 05:46 PM
Finished The Book of Boba Fett. Easy enough to watch, but the show was pure fan service and no substance. They clearly either ran out of ideas to sustain 7 episodes or just got bored of Boba, as mentioned before, he disappeared for 2 episodes.
My interest only perked up once Mando reappeared in episodes 5, which was probably the best of the season.
Ultimately, it feels like a series that didn't need to be. It just made me want the third season of The Mandalorian instead. I don't have high hopes for the Ahsoka Tano series, either, which I fear will suffer the same lazy, poor writing and empty fan service of Boba.
El Vaquero de Infierno
02-13-2022, 05:48 PM
I've never been a Boba Fett fan-boy, so perhaps that is the root of my feelings of apathy towards the series.
Destor
02-13-2022, 06:00 PM
id wager youd be less pleased if you were a boba stan
Lock Jaw
03-09-2022, 03:36 PM
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Destor
03-09-2022, 07:30 PM
im here for it
Damian Rey 2.0
03-13-2022, 01:11 AM
Count me in
Lengua
03-14-2022, 04:15 AM
I'm excited. I think the grand inquisitor and the 5th brother look a bit goofy from thier animated counterparts (the 5th brother seems to be retconned into a human) but I'll wait and see before passing true judgment.
It's crazy to think that something that has been talked about for the last 10 years will be over and done with for good by July. It's bittersweet. If it was possible that I could lock myself into a social media free room for 6 weeks and binge this all at once, I would be ecstatic. Waiting week to week is going to suck, especially when we get that Vader cliffhanger.
I still like watching things week-to-week.
Destor
03-14-2022, 09:18 PM
gross
Lock Jaw
05-26-2022, 09:29 PM
Obi-Wan tomorrow!
Then there's this:
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Confirmed to have two seasons of 12 episodes, and the finale of the second season will lead straight into Rogue One. The prequel to the prequel set after the prequel Trilogy. I didn't care about this much, but looks like it could maybe be "cool".... looks "visually good" at the very least....
ron the dial
05-26-2022, 09:31 PM
oh hell yes i am there for that
Lock Jaw
05-27-2022, 02:36 AM
Watched the two Obi-Wan episodes.... as expected a bunch of "continuity plotholes" created but it is fun.... so much more lively than Book of Boba Fett.....
Fignuts
05-27-2022, 02:44 AM
I didn't give any shits about Andor when it was announced but that trailer looks really cool.
Ol Dirty Dastard
05-27-2022, 11:19 AM
Watched the two Obi-Wan episodes.... as expected a bunch of "continuity plotholes" created but it is fun.... so much more lively than Book of Boba Fett.....
Yeah continuity plotholes are a reality when your entire franchise is one retcon after another. But yeah, a fun couple of eps. Ewan McGregor is a delight.
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-01-2022, 08:55 AM
I'm never one to complain about stakes because I enjoy low-stakes shows where we do a lot of character work and "hanging out." But the stakes for some reason feel WAY too low in Obi-Wan given the players involved. It's fucking Darth Vader trying to get revenge on the mofo that turned him into stumps and burnt flesh and I feel like I'm watching episodes of Rebels.
It's a fun show, no doubt. And I'll watch an hour of Ewan McGregor every week since he's the man. But even with the badass inquisitors and Obi/Leia on the run in constant fear, there's somehow a galling lack of intensity and emotion.
Fignuts
06-01-2022, 02:55 PM
You're not wrong, but how do you create stakes when we know the main characters survive. Solo had the same problem.
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-01-2022, 03:53 PM
You're not wrong, but how do you create stakes when we know the main characters survive. Solo had the same problem.
Better Call Saul does it all the time.
And I hate that I used the term "stakes" because it's so overused and a hackneyed critique IMO. So many armchair experts who say, "BUT WHERE'S THE STAKES" and I can't help but roll my eyes because I'd argue too many shows have too many stakes, therefore eliminating all meaning in any of the said stakes. When all there are is stakes, there's nothing actually at stake.
Conversely, I love when shows take something that's seemingly meaningless and give it weight.
With Kenobi, they've decided it's Obi getting his groove back...which makes sense contextually. But they aren't putting him in interesting enough scenarios for it to work for me. Everything just feels slow, stilted, and unimaginative. And there's a distinct lack of grandeur.
Perhaps, he could've been more like Maximus in Gladiator after he lost everything.
Or, I'd have preferred if Obi-Wan flirted with full-on psychosis/madness instead of not wanting to fight. It would've made sense, especially considering in A New Hope, everyone thinks he's some crazy old hermit who lives out in the Dune Sea. Of course, by then, he's wise and sage. But it'd have been interesting if he earned the reputation for being a bit of a nutter.
Instead, we have a miniseries that's a lesser version of Mando and it's of the same quality as middling Feloni cartoon episodes. Sure, some Rebels, Clone Wars, and Bad Batch episodes are great, but they're more than willing to throw in clunkers. And there's no time for that in a miniseries.
I could deal with some of the missteps in Boba Fett because it was clearly a transitional show and the crimelord element had its plusses despite not fleshing out the way it should have. However, I figured they'd go guns-a-blazing with Kenobi and it's really quite blasé. It's disappointing that it's so sanitized given the backstory and even the non-movie canon (e.g., the Darth Vader comics) they can work with.
Crippla
06-01-2022, 05:57 PM
I saw the yellow triangle with the exclamation point in the thread title from the main page and I thought Kris P was back :(
Lock Jaw
06-02-2022, 12:40 AM
Just watched the third episode and came here to say I enjoyed it a lot.
F yeah Vader....
"Weird" at him starting a fire, burning Obi-Wan for a bit, then putting out the fire via the force so his men could take Obi-Wan into custody for more torture later...... but then when someone else starts a fire he just stands and watches it as if we didn't JUST see him put out fire with the force
ron the dial
06-02-2022, 12:56 AM
i had the exact same thought but overall fuck yeah to the whole episode
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-02-2022, 12:57 AM
i had the exact same thought but overall fuck yeah to the whole episode
but i wrote a whole essay stating otherwise. Clearly I'm right because I wrote more. That's how it works.
ron the dial
06-02-2022, 12:57 AM
the only stakes i care about are steaks covered in ketchup and mayo
ron the dial
06-02-2022, 12:58 AM
splash a little worcestershire on there and you've basically got homemade A1 :cool:
right? yeah. right. that sounds right.
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-02-2022, 05:56 AM
splash a little worcestershire on there and you've basically got homemade A1 :cool:
right? yeah. right. that sounds right.
I'd eat it.
Lock Jaw
06-08-2022, 04:35 AM
Can't sleep so watched the new episode.... hot stuff yet again.
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-08-2022, 08:01 AM
Was better than the previous 3.
Fignuts
06-09-2022, 02:46 PM
I want to like this cause Ewan as Obi-Wan rules, but there are a lot of really dumb moments that keep taking me out of it. Years of watching a zombie wizard wrestle in wwe has strengthened my sense of disbeleif but even im at my limit with some of these scenes.
Should just give all these star wars shows to Dave Filoni and Bryce Dallas Howard. Their episodes are always the best.
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-09-2022, 11:28 PM
Yeah I agree Figgy. For once. You fucker. Show is fun and decent, but I feel it's underdelivered for the reasons you've brought forth and the fact that considering who's involved, every episode should be nothing short of very, very good (I won't even say excellent). And it's been a string of c-minuses to c-plusses IMO
Fignuts
06-11-2022, 01:00 AM
Also uh, pretty sure the Grand Inquisitor isnt supposed to be dead.
Lock Jaw
06-11-2022, 02:12 AM
Pretty sure Leia isn't supposed to know Obi-Wan either, it is what it is I guess....
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-11-2022, 12:45 PM
Also uh, pretty sure the Grand Inquisitor isnt supposed to be dead.
I guarantee he's not dead. Which is annoying in and of itself.
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-11-2022, 12:46 PM
Pretty sure Leia isn't supposed to know Obi-Wan either, it is what it is I guess....
I bet they'll do some kind of memory wipe...which again...annoying AF.
Fignuts
06-11-2022, 03:59 PM
I was hoping Asajj Ventress would make an appearance, but I guess she died in some book.
Lame.
Fignuts
06-11-2022, 04:00 PM
Almost as bad as Aura Singh being killed off in a line from Solo.
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-11-2022, 05:12 PM
I was hoping Asajj Ventress would make an appearance, but I guess she died in some book.
Lame.
She died along with Quinlan in that book, who's been referenced as still being alive in Kenobi.
Fignuts
06-11-2022, 05:30 PM
Did they say he was still alive? I thought they just said he had passed through the hideaway at some point.
Fignuts
06-11-2022, 05:34 PM
Asajj was apparently killed by Dooku so shes gone either way.
Although it says she was laid to rest at Dathomir, and that place is super spooky, so maybe the witches there could use their hoodoo to bring her back.
Please?
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-11-2022, 11:23 PM
Since Asaaj was killed in a book, I really wouldn't take that canon to the bank.
Fignuts
06-12-2022, 12:01 AM
Thought I remember seeing that all books after the expanded universe was cancelled would be official canon.
Lock Jaw
06-12-2022, 12:53 AM
Think that one in particular was just some unproduced Clone Wars episodes, so would be fairly "canon".....
But yeah, I mean Darth Maul literally got cut in half and survived so whatever
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-12-2022, 06:51 AM
Thought I remember seeing that all books after the expanded universe was cancelled would be official canon.
I just don't think they fear playing fast and loose with the books.
Blonde Moment
06-12-2022, 10:33 AM
Pretty sure Leia isn't supposed to know Obi-Wan either, it is what it is I guess....
Leia is the one who sent R2 looking for Obi-Wan in Episode 4
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-12-2022, 10:51 AM
I watched Leia's message to Obi-Wan last night, and there is arguably a BIT of wiggle room in what she says. You'd think she'd be like "Wurd, remember the time you saved me from the Inquisitors and all that shit?" but she also never says they've never met. More just reminding him how he helped her dad years ago, and she needs his help now.
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-12-2022, 10:51 AM
It's a fuckin stretch, but I really hope they do something to amend it by the final episode.
Fuck that! They can just update the original.
Lock Jaw
06-12-2022, 03:04 PM
Would be honestly "cool" to just say "F it" and remake the original, but include things and characters that just plain didn't exist in continuity before. Maybe adapt some of the Marvel Comics that have been expanding the story in between the movies because they have been pretty cool. Release "A New Hope" remake/update, then Disney+ series about the time in-between movies, then "Empire Strikes Back" remake/update... etc
Then after Return of the Jedi, just throw out the new trilogy and remake that too.
Lock Jaw
06-12-2022, 03:04 PM
They literally did retcon this one old dude with a beard in Return of the Jedi into being Captain Rex:
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Lock Jaw
06-16-2022, 12:14 AM
Re: Latest Obi-Wan episode
Holy poop Vader in this. Hot damn. Seen him rip an X-Wing out of the air in the comics but this was just badass seeing him do something like that in live action.
I don't see what Reva's plan was here.... wants vengeance on Vader, so becomes an inquisitor as a way to get close to him..... then is ruthlessly obsessed with drawing out Kenobi to get in Vader's good graces, so he wouldn't see it coming or something....
Then she finally gets Kenobi, he tells her that she should strike now because Vader will be blind with rage at him.... so she places Kenobi in an easily escapable situation where she isn't watching, then strikes at Vader only after he is no longer distracted by Kenobi.... dunno what she is playing at.
Not to mention earlier when they are trying to break down the door, she has them try to shoot it down..... but then instantly just cuts through it with her lightsaber. She's got a weird working style.
teamXtremist
06-17-2022, 02:09 AM
lol why didn’t Vader just walk around the fire? Or better yet, he just forced pushed to blow out the fire like 10 seconds earlier, but now he’s like “welp nothing to be done about this fire, I guess we’ll just let Obi Wan escape” After the first episode I had my hopes up that it would at least be decent, but nope this thing is an absolute turd sandwich.
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-17-2022, 10:54 AM
He’s afraid of fire… and he doesn’t like sand…
Seanny One Ball
06-19-2022, 04:07 PM
I decided to watch this Obi Wan show and it’s alright to be honest.
I tried to like Star Wars but never could get into it, I do like Darth Vader though and there’s plenty of him so far.
I enjoyed his show of force in the last episode. Was nice to get a look at his skills.
Seanny One Ball
06-19-2022, 04:10 PM
There should be a Palpatine show done in the style of Saved By The Bell, they could name it “Palpa-Teen” and we could see how his adolescent acne outbreaks drove him to the dark side.
They could do a similar show about the origins of R2D2 and call it “Bot Meets World”.
I’m here if you’re hiring Disney.
Seanny One Ball
06-19-2022, 04:12 PM
Darth Maul should also have his own show.
That’s not a joke though.
There should be a Palpatine show done in the style of Saved By The Bell, they could name it “Palpa-Teen” and we could see how his adolescent acne outbreaks drove him to the dark side.
They could do a similar show about the origins of R2D2 and call it “Bot Meets World”.
I’m here if you’re hiring Disney.
Have you seen Disney’s slates for Star Wars and Marvel? These don’t seem that unlikely.
Lock Jaw
06-19-2022, 05:15 PM
I'd be down for a Palpatine HTD
Seanny One Ball
06-19-2022, 05:32 PM
The intro theme would be “Last Resort” by Papa Roach
drave
06-20-2022, 11:31 AM
Robot Chicken Star Wars does a pretty good job at poking fun at it.
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drave
06-20-2022, 11:34 AM
You get your 7 foot 2 asthmatic ass back here or I'm gonna tell everyone what a whiney bitch you are about Padamame Panda Bear, or whatever the hell her name was!"
....
"Oh geez he's crying!!"
jesus, seen it before and it's still funny
Fignuts
06-20-2022, 12:15 PM
I've watched it probably 20 times at this point.
Easily the best thing robot chicken has ever done.
Followed closely by Palpatine on the escalator.
Fignuts
06-20-2022, 12:16 PM
"WHO'S THEY?!....What the hell is an aluminum falcon?"
drave
06-20-2022, 03:10 PM
Without looking at the credits for that episode..... did Seth McFarlane do some voices?
I can only hear the Emperor as Quagmire..... and that kinda makes it funnier for me.
Seanny One Ball
06-20-2022, 05:52 PM
The bit with the air conditioner made me laugh pretty hard.
If that isn’t Seth MacFarlane then it’s a stupendous impression.
McLegend
06-20-2022, 06:09 PM
It is Seth McFarland.
Seanny One Ball
06-21-2022, 06:32 AM
I think my enjoyment of the dark side has softened me to Star Wars as a franchise…
Obi Wan is a bit of a wank when it’s Ewan instead of Alec but that show is good stuff. Vader-wise it gives me everything I need. I just wish Palpatine was in it.
I also like The Mandalorian. That’s just classic Western stuff. #FreeGinaCarano
Destor
06-21-2022, 10:13 AM
I watched Leia's message to Obi-Wan last night, and there is arguably a BIT of wiggle room in what she says. You'd think she'd be like "Wurd, remember the time you saved me from the Inquisitors and all that shit?" but she also never says they've never met. More just reminding him how he helped her dad years ago, and she needs his help now.
its heavy retcon. its not worth defending it. same with "last we met i was but a student. now i am the master." the show doesnt give two shits about continuity. and fair enough. just take it for what it is. the mental gymnastics needed to make this show work could burst your brain
Destor
06-21-2022, 10:13 AM
if you can manage to ignore the horrid continuity youll find a pretty fun show
Destor
06-21-2022, 10:14 AM
shout out to how innept the child playing leah is at running though. she doesnt run like a girl. she runs like a toddler whos barely mastered walking
Seanny One Ball
06-21-2022, 11:08 AM
She acts like a fucking spastic though.
Bad child actor. Typical of Star Wars.
I bet because she’s a little girl in 2022 her life isn’t ruined like Jake Loyd. They will protect her from normality. Lots of safe spaces and fanny pads.
Destor
06-21-2022, 11:49 AM
she has good inflection. most child actors, because theyre children and dont have a grasp on words let alone emphasis, really struggle with iit. but she's pretty good in that regard. dunno if its her acting coach or the director but she works. but anything physical becomes cartoonish. they should have shot around the issue no clue how they looked at the dailies and decided to ship it as is.
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-21-2022, 12:41 PM
I agree with Destor on Leia's running. It was...atrocious.
Also--I was being very forgiving with my post about Leia's message. I'm hoping Obi whips out the old memory wiper from MIB at the end to make everything right.
I'm still a bit underwhelmed by the show, continuity aside. Last episode was a step in the right direction but this should've just been a movie or something.
Destor
06-21-2022, 02:05 PM
im hoping we can move forward with the franchise. the worl is rich. we dont have to have characters we know
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-21-2022, 05:01 PM
That was the beauty of Mando. Someone new.
Destor
06-21-2022, 05:09 PM
while being supremely familiar
Lock Jaw
06-21-2022, 08:51 PM
One of the good things in The Last Jedi was seeing Canto Bight and the kind of "upper class" people of the galaxy.... I'd be interested in seeing more of the "upper class" since the low class scum/scoundrels/rebels/bounty hunters has been done....
A Lando series starring Donald Glover would be cool for that maybe... he's a scoundrel for sure, but he constantly gets in with the upper class (if only to swindle them)
Destor
06-22-2022, 11:42 AM
finale really justifies the shows existence. weird to have the A plot resolved before the B plot when the A plot is the one the audience clearly is more invested in but its still good; they don't drag their feet on the B plot so its not a major issue. def deflates the momentum though.
Seanny One Ball
06-22-2022, 12:31 PM
Why not do Lando Versus Mando because everybody loves rhyming names
Also why is the Mandalorian known as Mando anyway? It should be Manda… but I guess that’s too much like Amanda.
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-22-2022, 12:53 PM
finale really justifies the shows existence. weird to have the A plot resolved before the B plot when the A plot is the one the audience clearly is more invested in but its still good; they don't drag their feet on the B plot so its not a major issue. def deflates the momentum though.
Enjoyed elements of the finale a lot but I don’t know if I feel fulfilled to where I needed this show more than another new character. The fight was badass, though. And the visual at the end (as well as the sound of a certain someone’s voice) of the big fight was cool.
I feel the first few eps plodded along too much to be forgiven despite me having fun watching Ewan doing his thing.
Destor
06-22-2022, 01:06 PM
i think the journey was wortth the destination
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-22-2022, 01:36 PM
Tbh I just felt like it was a good episode of Bad Batch, which isn’t good enough imo.
Fignuts
06-22-2022, 02:20 PM
Last two episodes were good.
Alrhough, I'm not really sure why he leaves Vader alive, but okay. Guess leia annoyed him enough were hes hoping vader goes out and murders more children.
Destor
06-22-2022, 02:49 PM
he leaves him alive because he's not a sith
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-22-2022, 02:59 PM
Yeah. And seeing Anakin's face filled him with conflicting emotions since he essentially raised him. It plays in nicely to how he was insistent that Luke needed to take him out since he himself failed to do it and it twice when he easily could've and it led to more suffering across the galaxy.
Seanny One Ball
06-22-2022, 05:33 PM
Imagine getting a man’s son to kill him because you find it too harrowing yourself lol.
That’s some funny stuff. Millions will die because Jedi’s are terrible at finishing what they started.
It was pretty cool though. I mean that wee speech at the end of the duel was Grade A Vader shit. I watched it a few times because he looked more evil than ever before. Good times.
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-22-2022, 05:36 PM
It was pretty cool though. I mean that wee speech at the end of the duel was Grade A Vader shit. I watched it a few times because he looked more evil than ever before. Good times.
BY FAR my favourite moment of the series. Fuck did it look and sound cool.
Seanny One Ball
06-22-2022, 06:26 PM
The evil eye looked pretty great.
Would scare a child.
Hats off to McGregor for doing a pretty good Alec Guinness homage.
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-22-2022, 06:42 PM
That little bit of Hayden as Vader was also really believable.
Fignuts
06-22-2022, 06:46 PM
Hes not a pacifist either. I feel like if it was anyone else you'd have a point, but we've seen how much death and destruction follows Vader. To allow him to continue that feels to me like it goes beyond mercy, and into stupidity. Kenobi is compassionate and merciful, but also willing to do what needs to be done.
I guess I felt they didnt give me a good enough reason that hed leave him alive, especially after seeing what hes capable of after doing so the first time. Add to that, he flat out says, Anakin is truly dead. So he wouldnt be killing his friend but rather this thing that is just destroying everything it comes across.
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-22-2022, 06:59 PM
I mean Obi-Wan was Anakin's brother as much as Luke was his son, and Luke couldn't kill him either.
But I agree that the show didn't explore enough emotions to tell that story with the appropriate gravitas. For such rich characters, the writers really made the show feel skin deep. Then it tries with the Wrestlemania moments (Obi letting Darth live) that lack the proper legwork to truly make sense without the appropriate cannon-based mental gymnastics.
Fignuts
06-22-2022, 08:06 PM
Heroes letting the villain live for the sake their ideals has always been a sticking point with me. A slippery slope, if you weeeeeellll. Its a classic trope. A great one even. But for me, it has to make sense. Once the villain does too much, too often, then the hero sticking to their pronciples, starts to look less heroic, and more selfish.
And again, for me it comes down to Kenobi having already made the choice to spare him once before and seeing the misery and death that followed that decision. I need a VERY good reason why he would choose to make that choice again. But the show didnt really give it to me.
Fignuts
06-22-2022, 08:07 PM
All that said, I still enjoyed the last two episodes. As a whole the series was okay. Hoping Ashoka is Mando quality. Andor looks a lot more interesting than I thought it would.
Seanny One Ball
06-23-2022, 11:45 AM
You Star Wars fucks will never be happy.
You’re the reason that little fella from the first prequel went insane as an adult.
Seanny One Ball
06-23-2022, 11:55 AM
Obi Wan blocked a hip toss too. MMA master.
Fignuts
06-23-2022, 12:33 PM
Nah, plenty of star wars stuff that I love. More than I dislike for sure.
And the kid went insane because of psycho's who can't distinguish between a real person and a part played in a show or movie. Its a phenomenom that plagues a lot of fandoms and I've never been able to wrap my head around these people's mindsets.
Seanny One Ball
06-23-2022, 01:00 PM
He was pretty bad though.
No child has ever been as good as Freddie Highmore was in anything.
Most kids acting skills are more like Freddie Highmore is as an adult.
Something went badly wrong there. He’s now only playing people on the spectrum. Must have used up all of his juice on those emotional scenes as a kid. That or somebody molested all of the joie de vivre out of him many years ago and now all that’s left is a husk that sounds retarded.
Fignuts
06-23-2022, 05:30 PM
I wonder how much of it was the kid's fault and how much of it was Lucas' dialogue and direction.
Lock Jaw
06-24-2022, 01:12 AM
Just watched it.... loved the duel...
Overall the series was good. Felt like some of the cool Star Wars comic books they've been doing, but instead of making a comic they said F it, threw a bunch of money around, and did it live action. Even 6 episodes the way a typical comic book arc these days is 6 issues.
I predicted from the start that one of the points of the entire series was gonna be Darth Vader flat out telling Obi-Wan that he killed Anakin to justify Kenobi later telling Luke the same thing.
Like others, yeah, I feel like they should have had more reason for Kenobi to leave Vader alive this time. Feels like at that point at that moment he should have felt ok ending it.
Feel like I want to watch A New Hope again and look for any evidence that Leia doesn't treat Obi-Wan as a complete stranger.
Seanny One Ball
06-24-2022, 03:33 PM
Why doesn’t Wedge have his own show yet?
The Cantina Band could be the musical act for his talk show.
teamXtremist
06-24-2022, 09:52 PM
And finally, Qui-Gon must really be pissed that suddenly taking a lightsaber to the stomach is just super easy to recover from
teamXtremist
06-24-2022, 09:52 PM
obviously screw anyone who used this as an excuse to be racist, but still can we acknowledge that the 3rd Sister is one of the dumbest, worst written characters in Star Wars history?
teamXtremist
06-24-2022, 09:54 PM
Same thing when vader force pulls a ship into the ground, then immediately forgets the force powers he just used and lets the other ship go. Just absolute dogcrap writing.
Destor
06-24-2022, 10:50 PM
she's not great. also both the black characters having hard american dialects made them feel REALLY out of place. i guess theyre from space Compton. always feel like english and southern are the only 2 dialects that feel right in the setting.
Destor
06-24-2022, 10:52 PM
as far as the community being racist most of that is manufactured. its fake twitter nonsense. very little of that is 2 authentic people. and on the rare occasion it is 1 tweet from 1 rando. most though is hate marketing which has proven to be VERY effective.
Destor
06-24-2022, 10:53 PM
southern, english and "non-descript" i guess. what radio would call the "non-ascent"
teamXtremist
06-24-2022, 11:38 PM
Honestly,best part was the final battle between Kenobi and Vader. otherwise this series sucked fat balls and was completely fucking pointless. added absolutely nothing to the story of Star Wars .
Ol Dirty Dastard
06-25-2022, 08:44 AM
she's not great. also both the black characters having hard american dialects made them feel REALLY out of place. i guess theyre from space Compton. always feel like english and southern are the only 2 dialects that feel right in the setting.
uh.....what? Luke, Han, and Leia all had hard American dialects. Leia only sounded "British" in a few scenes in a New Hope, which I read in an interview she did it because she was nervous about working with Peter Cushing.
Odd nitpick.
Seanny One Ball
06-25-2022, 11:54 AM
Peter Cushing is more intertwined with Frankenstein than Boris Karloff in my mind.
He must have played every horror baddie ten times each by the time Hammer was done
Destor
06-25-2022, 11:56 AM
Luke and Han have non-acents. not rengional at all. leah had like a vaguely regal non accent. it was non with a dab of english. "american accent" isnt a thing btw. its a big place. we have dozens. the thing you mean is "american" is the what the radio used to call the non-accent. also called the neutral accent. its not from anywhere. when a foreigner speaks in "american" they learn a non-accent.
which sounds fine in space films. its generic. same with nuetral-english. southern always works for working class folk in any medium. if youre doing rustic space southern works for whatever reason.
really specific accents like cajun or northern-albertan sound fucking weird galaxies away. truly bizzare. you immediately feel the fourth wall shatter.
Seanny One Ball
06-25-2022, 01:10 PM
Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill just used their own accents.
Generican.
Lock Jaw
06-25-2022, 01:38 PM
I didn't notice anything wrong with Third Sister's accent..... just her character and how poorly written she was in general
Destor
06-25-2022, 05:09 PM
Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill just used their own accents.
Generican.Fischer didnt. not initially anyways. her natural speaking voice is much harsher. so softened her voice up for most of her roles. listen to her in interviews or even when she would sing and its a much more masculine voice
Destor
06-25-2022, 05:12 PM
https://youtu.be/EJYp5rNAFGg
the first quote here is literally a bad english accent mixed with the mid atlantic accent (that was invented by hollywood)
Seanny One Ball
06-25-2022, 08:51 PM
Hollywood didn’t invent the generic yank accent, that was probably the South by way of mockery.
The generic Southern accent sounds like it comes from mockery too but then so do all of the individual Southern ones so maybe that’s just how they sound down there.
Seanny One Ball
06-25-2022, 08:51 PM
Thinking about when Simple Fan posted his accent.
Brilliant.
Destor
06-25-2022, 09:57 PM
the mid atlantic accent isnt "generic yank." its literally not spoken anywhere outside of old hollywood films.
Destor
06-25-2022, 10:05 PM
https://youtu.be/5aXmNle560k
jump to 5:07 for transatlantic. its basically the only purely consciously created dialect...well ever
Seanny One Ball
06-26-2022, 06:46 AM
I don’t think the Transatlantic accent was a Hollywood invention bud. It caught on there but it was a social thing more than anything.
Cary Grant is the epitome of that accent and most of the best examples will be from Hollywood but that’s only because most widely seen old film is from movies.
It was definitely around before films spread the appeal.
Seanny One Ball
06-26-2022, 06:48 AM
Wiki agrees with me.
Says it was around in the 19th century.
Destor what’s your favourite Hollywood film from the 1800’s?
Destor
06-26-2022, 09:30 AM
The Mid-Atlantic accent, or Transatlantic accent, is a consciously learned accent of English, fashionably used by the early 20th-century American upper class and entertainment industry, which blended together features regarded as the most prestigious from both American and British English (specifically Received Pronunciation). It is not a native or regional accent; rather, according to voice and drama professor Dudley Knight, "its earliest advocates bragged that its chief quality was that no Americans actually spoke it unless educated to do so". The accent was embraced in private independent preparatory schools, especially by members of the American Northeastern upper class, as well as in schools for film and stage acting
Destor
06-26-2022, 09:38 AM
The pioneer of the dialect, William Tilly, literally deliberately taught it to actors as a method to popularize it in hopes it would spread "correct speech" in his mind.
Destor
06-26-2022, 09:42 AM
Vocal coach and scholar Dudley Knight (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dudley_Knight) describes how the Australian phonetician William Tilly (né (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A9) Tilley), teaching at Columbia University (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University) from 1918 to around the time of his death in 1935, introduced a phonetically consistent American speech standard that would "define the sound of American classical acting for almost a century", though Tilly himself actually had no special interest in acting. Mostly attracting a following of English-language learners (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English-language_learner) and New York City public-school teachers,<sup id="cite_ref-14" class="reference">[14] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_accent#cite_note-14)</sup> Tilly was interested in popularizing his version of a "proper" American pronunciation for teaching in public schools and using in one's public life.<sup id="cite_ref-15" class="reference">[15] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_accent#cite_note-15)</sup>
Destor
06-26-2022, 09:47 AM
the number of rich coastal elites in america in the mid 1800s is like 50 people. this accent was manufactured into existance chiefly by one mans efforts and rose to awareness culturally specifically through its usage in film. and since youve already established you think wikipedia is an arbiter of truth there's really nothing more to be said on the topic
Seanny One Ball
06-26-2022, 09:48 AM
Stop being wrong so hard.
Hollywood was just the syringe.
Destor
06-26-2022, 09:51 AM
oh this is just a semantics issue for you. yeah i dont care about arguing about if invention lies in impetus or inception you can be "right" about that. i really couldnt care less.
Seanny One Ball
06-26-2022, 09:53 AM
Now suck my penis, I won’t enjoy it so it’s a fair punishment.
Seanny One Ball
06-26-2022, 09:55 AM
He’s going to drop me on my head and claim I was giving his dog shit…
What have I done…
Crippla
06-26-2022, 11:46 AM
How can you say you won't enjoy it when it hasn't happened yet? You just want to believe you won't enjoy it but there is a possibility you will even if you won't admit it.
Fignuts
06-26-2022, 12:34 PM
I wonder if darth maul's dick has those same little spikes that are on his head.
Crippla
06-26-2022, 02:18 PM
Then he could literally give someone death by deep throat
Seanny One Ball
06-26-2022, 03:00 PM
If he has those bumps naturally I bet the ladies don’t believe him when he says it.
They probably think he has space warts.
Space Warts: A New Hope
Title actually works… the sequels are “Strikes Back” and “Return Of” so we know evil wins the day or is impossible to kill.
He won’t be mauling anything with his dick looking like that.
teamXtremist
06-26-2022, 06:18 PM
Vader can force grab a fuckin space ship as it's boosting away but can't jump over waist high fire lol
Jedi becoming earth benders suddenly was pretty cheesy
Vader and Obi leaving each other alive when they could've just ended it multiple times
Farmers holding a sith off with random trash laying around the house
Obi dressing as a jedi when the empire is searching for jedi
erasing the fact that obi and anakin were jedi masters and having them both act like retards
glass in an underwater military facility not being bullet proof
Lock Jaw
06-26-2022, 06:45 PM
You would think that after Obi-Wan left Vader alive and took off in the shuttle, the Grand Inquisitor in the nearby star destroyer would have shot it down immediately. Unless Vader instructed them to not wait in orbit and to just leave him there.
Destor
06-26-2022, 07:50 PM
darth maul having a cat dick is head cannon now
teamXtremist
06-29-2022, 03:57 PM
The concepts and ideas in the prequels is great, but the execution is as bad as it gets in moviemaking. It’s an unwatchable abomination of CGI, greenscreens, and wooden acting with dialogue that sounds like it was written by an AI bot.
The exact opposite is true for the sequel trilogy - great execution in filmmaking, but stupid unoriginal ideas (sans parts of The Last Jedi, which has great ideas, but the neckbeards couldn’t handle their precious manbaby Luke being treated like less than a god).
Destor
06-29-2022, 06:40 PM
after 40 years having one of the most iconic characters in history, not just through film but all of narrative throughout time, become a weak coward and betray every narrative these long rime fans had read over 4 decades is not a good idea.
people literally had been waiting their entire lives to see what their childhood hero grew up to do. its easily the most tone def moment in film history. the fact you can accurately describe luke as a man baby should shed some light on how bad your take is.
"hey you know the great hero of franchise? what if he wasnt?" yeah great idea.
Seanny One Ball
06-29-2022, 07:55 PM
I still can’t believe what I saw at the end of The Mandalorian.
That was fucking tits.
I wish I liked the films more but the two shows I watched were a real breath of fresh air for the franchise.
Destor
06-29-2022, 09:05 PM
it was decades of catharsis let loose
Destor
06-29-2022, 09:07 PM
the second i finished mando s2 i called my dad, he was really disappointed by the films, and since didnt have disney+ I told him to he had to come over for 8 hours on the next free day he had. watching him watch that scene was like watching a kid on christmas morning. it was really special.
wwe2222
06-30-2022, 02:24 AM
TLHJ is a top 3/4 Star Wars film for me. I really enjoyed the Luke Rey Kylo story.
Lock Jaw
08-01-2022, 12:16 PM
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Dammit.... gone from "lol Disney really doing all they can to milk this thing... a prequel series about a dude from a prequel movie" to "damn, this looks great, I can't wait to see it!"
Fignuts
08-01-2022, 02:15 PM
That was my reaction when the first teaser dropped. Still looking really good.
Lock Jaw
08-01-2022, 02:21 PM
Yeah, first teaser looked great too. I hope Admiral Draven is in this.... no sign of him yet...
Lock Jaw
09-10-2022, 03:50 PM
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Lock Jaw
09-22-2022, 12:46 AM
Slow burn start to Andor, but loved the third episode. Glad they released the three at once. From a visual point of view may be the best of all the Star Wars shows.
Destor is gonna be SO pissed at all the accents in it.
Destor
09-22-2022, 01:50 AM
Pissed isnt the word id use but i see the direction they're going. Its whatever. Show looks solid.
Ol Dirty Dastard
09-22-2022, 03:12 PM
Show is really good so far. Pleasantly surprised after the MEH-ness of Kenobi.
Ol Dirty Dastard
09-28-2022, 11:19 AM
I still don't even understand this Star Wars with unstilted dialogue. I'm not saying it's Quentin Tarantino or anything but I don't find himself having to lower my expectations of natural-sounding conversations while watching Andor.
Ol Dirty Dastard
09-28-2022, 11:21 AM
I guess it helps when the likes of Stellan Skarsgard and Diego Luna deliver the lines it sounds less forced.
Ol Dirty Dastard
09-28-2022, 02:49 PM
Only real issue with the show is the pacing and structure. Still enjoying it tons, I just wish there was a bit more focused on episodic arcs that bleed into the series arc, versus it being more or less a long movie.
Lock Jaw
09-29-2022, 12:05 AM
Just watched the new episode.... lol at just kind of randomly ending.
Slow pace for sure.... wonder if the show is gonna do "3 episode story arcs" where the first two are kinda slow and then the 3rd is exciting....
Ol Dirty Dastard
09-29-2022, 12:09 AM
I like the slow pace, but, as you said, the episode ended randomly. Don't understand why the deliberate pace can't mesh with episodes that have a beginning, middle, and end.
Lock Jaw
10-05-2022, 11:38 PM
I'm betting space-cereal guy becomes a Rebel....
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-06-2022, 10:04 AM
Space cereal guy and blonde career girl seem to be positioned as "grey" area Imperials.
Lock Jaw
10-06-2022, 11:05 AM
Don't think blonde braud is on the way to being a rebel though.... think she will eventually get that promotion and lead the charge against them...
Lock Jaw
10-06-2022, 11:05 AM
Or she chokes on her aspirations and dies
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-12-2022, 06:32 PM
Ep 6 was dope
Lock Jaw
10-13-2022, 12:57 AM
Episode 6 was great....
Seriously considering not watching the next 3 weeks so I can watch them all at once.... just as a guess that it will follow the "3 episode cycle" and I can binge it....
But more likely I won't be able to wait.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-13-2022, 10:36 AM
Yeah they are def doing 3 episode arcs—where each one is ostensibly a movie.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-13-2022, 10:38 AM
Funny how nobody seems to be watching this cuz of all the frustration with Boba and Kenobi. lol
ron the dial
10-13-2022, 11:04 AM
I am watching it. Rogue One is my favorite post-prequels Star Wars offering, so this is hitting the spot for me.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-13-2022, 11:33 AM
I’d argue the show is better than Rogue One—especially if you’re a big nerd like me.
McLegend
10-13-2022, 12:48 PM
Wow that’s high praise since Rogue one is great.
Fignuts
10-13-2022, 02:28 PM
Im watching the hell out of this, cause its awesome.
ron the dial
10-13-2022, 10:04 PM
damn episode 6 was absolutely fantastic
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-13-2022, 10:21 PM
Skeen was great. Loved him in The Bear.
Lock Jaw
10-15-2022, 02:25 PM
Been revealed that episode 7 will be a "standalone" episode. Episodes 8-10 will be another 3-ep story arc, and then eps 11-12 will be a two-part finale.
We will see if I have the will power to wait so I can watch 8-10 all at once as a "movie". (Spoiler: The answer is no)
ron the dial
10-19-2022, 10:46 PM
dedra was wicked this episode. another great week imo. more of the political stuff with mon please.
Lock Jaw
10-20-2022, 01:22 AM
Maybe my fav episode yet....
Just showing the reactions of the heist and how planned it was.... "making things worse" so that they could stoke more discontent, while at the same time inspiring people that they could fight back.... kind of a really "devious" political plan that Palpatine himself would be proud of....
Mon Mothma sounds like she's got her own plans and things too apart from Luthen. I think Mon Mothma is gonna turn out to be working with some of the Star Wars Rebels characters like Hera and whoever it was that was the main military guy, leader of the fleet/cell... forget his name....
Then Luthen is gonna turn out to be working with Saw Gerrera and be the more willing to do whatever it takes kinda guy....
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-22-2022, 12:59 PM
This show is excellent. In almost all ways, it's even better than Mando, but Mando has more IT factor.
The lack of ratings is disheartening because it'll discourage them from making good content. I hope they understand that waning interest likely has to do with oversaturating the market with shows that didn't need to exist (Kenobi, Fett).
Seanny One Ball
10-22-2022, 01:12 PM
No way it’s better than the Mandalorian.
I’ll have to watch it now just to get mad at you for being wrong Dale.
Lock Jaw
10-22-2022, 01:41 PM
I wouldn't say it is better than Mandolorian. Every episode of Mando seems to be quality and have a defined beginning and end every episode.... while due to its 3 episode arc nature, Andor can be a bit slow and have weird episode structure.... still laughing at that one week where it just randomly ended to the credits.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-22-2022, 04:29 PM
Mando's structure is better but the acting, dialogue, and general plot of Andor is better.
And I'd agree that Mando is better in the sense that Steve Austin is way better than Chris Benoit.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-22-2022, 04:32 PM
Again. It Factor. There's something special about Mando, but regarding actual thoughtful, adult-oriented content, Andor is miles ahead.
Lock Jaw
10-26-2022, 11:43 PM
Great episode this week... all starting to converge and the prison scenes were brilliant....
I think he is getting out of there with the help of skinny neck space cereal guy..... that's the only way I see right now....
Seanny One Ball
10-27-2022, 06:25 PM
I tried to start this but it wasn’t The Mandalorian so I just couldn’t get into it.
The Mandalorian and Obi Wan have ruined Star Wars for me by being good and giving me exactly what I wanted.
Selfish!
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-27-2022, 07:17 PM
lol Obi Wan was mediocre.
Seanny One Ball
10-27-2022, 07:18 PM
It gave me Darth Vs Obi and Luke on a hot tear of badassery.
Don’t be mad that these things happened.
Seanny One Ball
10-27-2022, 07:21 PM
Dale try and explain yourself because this is an argument worth having.
Lock Jaw
10-27-2022, 07:21 PM
Obi Wan was mediocre but made up for it with some "F yeah, Darth Vader!!" moments even if in the end the whole story was kind of just "why do you exist and what sense did that make?"
So I can understand liking it to the superior story of Andor just because of the "F yeah!" moments
Seanny One Ball
10-27-2022, 07:22 PM
Exactly.
I’m not a fan of Star Wars but Obi Wan objectively kicks the cunt out of the three prequel films we were exposed to as kids.
That’s not up for debate.
Seanny One Ball
10-27-2022, 07:25 PM
The Mandalorian is easily the best Star Wars product and it’s not even close.
I haven’t seen the last three or four films but why bother when the fan reaction is so extremely negative all of the time.
At least I got to see Vader in a proper duel. That was worth the hours and even without it the whole Luke bit would have made that show worth watching.
ron the dial
10-27-2022, 10:44 PM
the score on andor is fantastic. the synths often sound as though they are decaying through the notes. this may be my favorite star wars series yet with the score being the real icing on the cake.
Seanny One Ball
10-28-2022, 01:50 AM
God damnit Ron that’s the testimony Dale will use to hang me
ron the dial
10-28-2022, 05:16 AM
i think the mandalorian may be better overall (we'll see after andor is done), and the vader scenes in obi wan you mentioned were also exactly what i needed. but something about the "rogue one" part of the universe and how they are handling it fascinates me.
Seanny One Ball
10-28-2022, 07:43 AM
So I should see “Rogue One” then watch Andor.
Thanks for actually being helpful Ron.
Sepholio
10-28-2022, 07:57 AM
Rogue One might be my favorite Star Wars movie honestly. Was surprisingly good.
Seanny One Ball
10-28-2022, 08:32 AM
Right on.
See Dale is a gatekeeper.
He won’t help in my struggle.
Sepholio
10-28-2022, 09:04 AM
I remember after first seeing it I immediately thought how much it sucked that it was just a one off because it was so much better than the mainline sequels/prequels at that point.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-28-2022, 10:12 AM
It gave me Darth Vs Obi and Luke on a hot tear of badassery.
Don’t be mad that these things happened.
It was a slog. And I liked the Anakin half Vader mask scene a lot but it was so middling. Like—I don’t mind it for what it is and don’t begrudge someone liking it—just a lot of flaws. I got how obi wan was traumatized and lost his connection with the force but I didn’t really enjoy the execution. Watching obi wan fumble and flail is boring. There wasn’t much character development. Little Leia wasn’t necessary. That there was another obi wan versus Vader fight was kinda dumb and an unnecessary retcon that they didn’t quite justify. Most of the acting and dialogue seemed phoned in. And in general it seemed subject to a lot of rewrites.
I had a good time with it, and accepted that I’d have to enjoy some isolated moments. But Andor is just put together much better. Better acting, plot, overall story, and dialogue.
Fignuts
10-30-2022, 01:32 AM
Mandalorian has a lot more cool, hype moments, but a lot of those moments rely on nostalgia from the OG trilogy and clone wars. Andor is so well written it doesn't even need it. So much subtley in the writing. Its really excellent.
Andor is better, imo. At least up to this point. Bad ending could ruin the whole thing. All that said, I wouldn't blame anyone for liking Mando more, because those nostalgia moments are still very cool and its got its own great writing besides that.
Fignuts
10-30-2022, 01:36 AM
On another note Tales of the Jedi is really good. Outside of the first episode which is nothing. Really cool lore stuff, especially if you watched clone wars.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2022, 10:09 AM
First ep of tales of the Jedi is kinda just cool as Ahsoka lore, but the rest of the show is definitely much meatier.
And yeah, I basically agree with you on Andor, Figgy. I'd only say Mando is objectively "better" just because of how hype it is. It grabs more eyes and has more cache because the two mains (Mando and Grogu) have such unparalleled chemistry (even if Grogu is a puppet that doesn't say anything).
As far as what I think is technically better with dialogue, plot, and acting--it's Andor all the way and not all that close. But if you go into Andor wanting the standard by-the-numbers star wars story, you won't like it.
Seanny One Ball
10-30-2022, 11:08 AM
Which has more nudity
Fignuts
10-30-2022, 01:05 PM
Twi'lek titties errrrywhere
Lock Jaw
10-30-2022, 01:53 PM
Twi'tties
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2022, 03:23 PM
Which has more nudity
Andor
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2022, 03:23 PM
In spirit at least.
Lock Jaw
11-02-2022, 11:21 PM
Another great episode of Andor. This story arc has been amazing.
That one dude sure loves his space cereal. I want to see him "get with" ISB braud.... think she would be "hot" letting her hair down and "getting wild" if you know what I mean.
Lock Jaw
11-02-2022, 11:42 PM
Also, friend pointed this out to me last week:
One of the dudes at Cassian's table (Melshi) is in Rogue One and in the battle on Scarif. So we know someone else gets out alive too.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-04-2022, 08:08 AM
I wonder if Andor realizes that his jail-boss is Snoke.
Seanny One Ball
11-04-2022, 02:25 PM
Andor is a weird name give that there’s a place called Endor.
Like if on Earth there was a kid called “Faturn” instead of “Saturn”.
Haha…Faturn…
Lock Jaw
11-04-2022, 02:55 PM
Larry Faturn
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-04-2022, 04:20 PM
Perry Splaturn
ron the dial
11-04-2022, 07:04 PM
Another great episode of Andor. This story arc has been amazing.
That one dude sure loves his space cereal. I want to see him "get with" ISB braud.... think she would be "hot" letting her hair down and "getting wild" if you know what I mean.
i didn't expect a romance angle coming from either of them, but that's certainly where their interaction this week made it seem like they're headed. the actors had a very strange and beautiful chemistry in that scene, and i was into it.
definitely excited to see this meeting between mon mothma and that one mob boss sounding dude. and of course the prison shit is excellent.
also poor fucking bix :( that torture method sounds wild as hell.
ron the dial
11-04-2022, 07:14 PM
Faturn - For Your Morbidly Obese Deceased
Fignuts
11-06-2022, 10:08 AM
You know what I'd really like, is a show that sympathizes with why imperials are so feircely loyal to this blatantly evil organization. Like, it wouldn't sympathize with the empire itself but rather with the history of these people and what traumatic events pushed them to beleive that totaltarian authoritism was the best option. We've never really gotten anything that dives deep into that, probably because in the original trilogy, none of the imperials had any redeeming qualities. But more recent stuff is painting them as more human than cartoon villain, so it would be cool to get a better look at their motivations.
Lock Jaw
11-06-2022, 12:48 PM
And then at the end of the series they get blown up in the Death Star
Lock Jaw
11-06-2022, 01:16 PM
But do it in a way that you don't even know they are on the Death Star until suddenly everything blows up and it just cuts to Han Solo going "Great shot kid! That was one in a million!"
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-06-2022, 08:27 PM
You know what I'd really like, is a show that sympathizes with why imperials are so feircely loyal to this blatantly evil organization. Like, it wouldn't sympathize with the empire itself but rather with the history of these people and what traumatic events pushed them to beleive that totaltarian authoritism was the best option. We've never really gotten anything that dives deep into that, probably because in the original trilogy, none of the imperials had any redeeming qualities. But more recent stuff is painting them as more human than cartoon villain, so it would be cool to get a better look at their motivations.
Arent we sorta getting that with Andor?
Fignuts
11-06-2022, 08:35 PM
Well, we get a much better look into the lives of these imperial officers but not what got them there, or why they support the empire so strongly.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-09-2022, 09:28 AM
Man… Stellan Skaarsgard.
ron the dial
11-10-2022, 01:10 AM
andy serkis too. damn.
Lock Jaw
11-10-2022, 02:09 AM
Fantastic episode. Agree with the above two posts.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-10-2022, 10:02 AM
I’ve said it many times but Star Wars with great dialogue is blowing my mind.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-10-2022, 10:02 AM
Well… and I guess great monologues would be more accurate for this ep
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