Fallout 4

[Heisenberg]

http://i.imgur.com/kACyjRp.jpg






Never been so ready to return to the wasteland, anyone else waiting to unleash a load on this?

Please post any updates on this if someone hasn't done so already.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://fallout.bethsoft.com/

LESS THAN 24 HOURS TO GO FUCKFACES

[road doggy dogg]

asdf

[Heisenberg]

a/s/l

[road doggy dogg]

14/f/FL

u

[Heisenberg]

65/t/CA

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://content.bethsoft.com/bsw_cms_asset/46910_2_0.jpg
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[road doggy dogg]

now all we need is a Half-Life 3 announcement and I might just stop showing up to work for the week

[Heisenberg]

The Steam client would've started running promos on it if so, interrupting your games and showing calculations until the official E3 unveil

[road doggy dogg]

That's true. And I'd be 100p okay with this. No Dota match is more important than Half-Life 3!

[Joe Kerr]

cant wait for the E3 reveal. I'm guessing game won't be out until next fall.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

E3 reveal? 5 MINUTES BRUV

[Heisenberg]

Yeah, I'm good with it whenever it chooses to come. I'm just glad it exists

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Trailer debuting here

http://www.twitch.tv/bethesda

[The Mask]

so wtf is happening with the original site. all @please stand by@ even though the timer has run out

apple keyboard can fuck off with its @ in the wrong place also

[Heisenberg]

Hasney, don't look at the chat box if you're on mobile, I almost went into a seizure just now

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Mr. Mask

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Lnn2rJpjar4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Dunno what happened on the feed.

Holy shit. HOLY SHIT.

If before the explosion is playable as well, then it'll be incredible.

Once I get my hands on Phantom Pain, this will be my most hyped game. Easily.

[The Mask]

cheers darling. looks good, i guess. can't help but feel underwhelmed by graphics these days, always expect more. to say it was the worst game i ever played probably, ryse was also the best looking. this generation of consoles has been pretty shitty for me.

dunno, looks like the same old fallout to me.

[road doggy dogg]

Am I a chump for wanting to pre-order this already?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh totally, diminishing returns are happening and when you get a great looking game, you seem to get a short repetitive game like Ryse or The Order 1886. Shit just costs too much.

If it has to look like that to get a large open world, then I'm happy with the trade off
Am I a chump for wanting to pre-order this already?

I'm not pre-ordering at all. Too many things that were even sure things like ports of Halo and Street Fighter have been bad. I have confidence it'll be great, but I don't know if it'll be great day 1. They quite often make buggy things anyway.

[road doggy dogg]

Yeah true. Plus I'm most likely going to just grab it off Steam anyway, no reason to worry about limited stock etc

[The Rogerer]

The lesson there is that porting is a nightmare, and they underestimate the time and effort it takes.

Bethesda games will always be rough, but with the PS4 having masses of RAM available compared to the PS3, we should see things handle a bit easier, I fucking hope.

[Shadow]

Looks like we're heading for Boston this time around. Man alive I really hope they're gonna do this story New Vegas style and exploration Capital Wasteland style.

[drave]

Greenmangaming.com already offering the game for $46

Save $14 on Fallout 4 (http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/action/fallout-4/) minutes after its announcement (http://kotaku.com/watch-the-fallout-4-trailer-here-1708693039). [Fallout 4 (http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/action/fallout-4/), $46 with code 23PERC-ENTOFF-48HOUR] You must be signed up for GreenMan’s e-mails for this code to work.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Am I a chump for wanting to pre-order this already?

No.

[Heisenberg]

Ron Perlman is going to lend his voice to this one too, sweet

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

There would probably be a riot if he wasn't in it.

[alvarado52]

Now all I need to see at E3 is Mass Effect 4 and I'll be a happy camper.

[Fignuts]

I actually wanted a new elder scrolls game more than new fallout, due to skyrim just being a more interesting enviornment to the wastelands drab grey and browns.

But after that trailer, I'm really hyped. They've managed to add a lot more color and personality to the enviornment this time around.

[The Mask]

I'd prefer a new elder scrolls one also. But it's nice to finically have a game to look forward to regardless.

[Tom Guycott]

Ron Perlman is going to lend his voice to this one too, sweet

There would probably be a riot if he wasn't in it.

He's been narrating since Fallout 1. There'd be more backlash than when Sutherland replace Hayter as "Snake", even though it makes sense to have a different guy voice Big Boss. Hell, all the "siblings" had different voices.

But changing Pearlman for any other reason than his death would just be dumb. Even then, there's enough work he's done to be able to cobble dialogue for a Fallout intro after he's no longer with us.

Love the callback to 1 with the tv pan out and the song starting off similar to "Maybe". That was enough to wet my panties.

[Fignuts]

The whole commotion over Big Boss makes no sense to me in the first place. He was voiced by a different guy at the end of MGS4, why wouldn't he be in MGS5 since he's older in this one? If anything people should be upset that he isn't voiced by Richard Doyle.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Ron Perlman is going to lend his voice to this one too, sweet

Any news if Erik Dellums will reprise his role as Three Dog? One of the best parts of Fsllout 3 was listening to him on the radio out in the D.C Wasteland.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He tweeted something months ago that said he was. Nothing official yet though. Hopefully he'll keep us updated bow wow wow.

[DAMN iNATOR]

He tweeted something months ago that said he was. Nothing official yet though. Hopefully he'll keep us updated bow wow wow.

"...and remember, don't feed the Yao Guai!"

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Only time I feed them is when I don't run away from them fast enough hoping I saved.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

So the Bethesda store, Green Man Gaming, Amazon and Game-Stop are all listing this for 2015. That would be incredible.

[drave]

Hopefully it will be incredible......

If 2014 is telling of fucked up game releases, I will wait and see. Pretty stoked though, love post-apocalyptic settings.

[road doggy dogg]

The whole "dystopian future" angle has been done to death lately (especially in movies) but the Fallout series has always done it best imo so it will be grand.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Yeah, shame I won't be able to afford a PS4 anytime soon...this is exactly the kind of thing that would be an instant system seller as far as I'm concerned.

[Emperor Smeat]

A few rumors about the game were debunked recently by Kotaku. The biggest being the rumor related to the character creator being restricted to just male character options.

Also debunked the source by stating most of the correct "leaked" info originated with them and the person herself never working at Bethesda. The source had claimed she got fired by the company after accidentally leaking some stuff that Kotaku got a hold off but Kotaku said she was never the source for their leaks.

http://kotaku.com/latest-popular-fallout-4-rumor-sure-seems-like-bs-1709009561
http://www.destructoid.com/is-this-old-fallout-4-leak-true-no-gender-options--293262.phtml

[Kris P Lettus]

omg omg omg omg omg omg omg

[dronepool]

Fuck yes.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://i.imgur.com/z2racND.jpg

#HappeningIn2015

[road doggy dogg]

love it

[Shadow]

YES!

[Wishbone]

Apparently rumors are floating around that we might see it on October 23 2015. October 23 is a big date in Fallout lore since it's apparently the date the bombs dropped. Seen it mentioned multiple places so it's a possibility. Take it with a grain of salt though.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Announcing October 23rd would be BOMBS DROPPED.

Seriously, if I'm playing this after doing most of what I want to do on The Phantom Pain, it's gonna be one helluva year.

[The Destroyer]

I hate when stuff launches in late October, since I'm inevitably away on holiday so miss out. :(

[DAMN iNATOR]

Praying there will still be last-gen version. I don't care if I have to wait beyond whenever the PS4/XB1 launch is, I just need to be playing this ASAP.

I honestly think Bethesda would be well-served to do so, unless they hate money all of a sudden,

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Probably not. They struggled with PS3/360 last time out as it was and the improvements to the engine with Skyrim made it even harder.

Outside of COD and sports games, last gen versions of anything in 2015 have sold like shit. Unless they can hire a cheap team to do a quick and easy port, it's actually losing money to make a last gen version right now.

[drave]

Praying there will still be last-gen version. I don't care if I have to wait beyond whenever the PS4/XB1 launch is, I just need to be playing this ASAP.

I honestly think Bethesda would be well-served to do so, unless they hate money all of a sudden,

Or unless the specs of old hardware hinders the game experience they have in mind.

[The Rogerer]

Praying there will still be last-gen version. I don't care if I have to wait beyond whenever the PS4/XB1 launch is, I just need to be playing this ASAP.

I honestly think Bethesda would be well-served to do so, unless they hate money all of a sudden,No chance.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Praying there will still be last-gen version. I don't care if I have to wait beyond whenever the PS4/XB1 launch is, I just need to be playing this ASAP.

I honestly think Bethesda would be well-served to do so, unless they hate money all of a sudden,

Is Elder Scrolls Online going to be on 360 or Ps3? Sorry about your damn luck.

[Heisenberg]

It's being billed as the next evolution in open world exploration so nah

[The Rogerer]

The PS3 had a split pool of RAM so I think they only had 256MB to work with for the previous games, then another 256mb for vram. Compared to 5gb workable on ps4. So that's between 10 or 20 times more to work with on the new systems. Fallout is exactly the game that's going to use as much as it can.

It would be easier to make for phones.

[road doggy dogg]

Or just play it on PC like a champion

[The Rogerer]

Nope

[drave]

Confirmed NO LAST GEN release:


Here’s some good news for anyone concerned that last generation’s consoles are holding back today’s game developers: Fallout 4 is current-gen-only, Bethesda says. No quiet last-gen releases coming down the road.

Some might have assumed as much when the publisher announced Fallout 4 last week for PC, PS4, and Xbox One, but there were certainly gamers—myself included—worried they had a quiet last-gen port in the works to maximize sales. Fortunately, that’s not happening, according to Bethesda global community lead Matt Grandstaff, who says the next Fallout ain’t coming to 360 or PS3.

This current-gen exclusivity is important for two reasons:

1) It means Todd Howard and his team at Bethesda Game Studios will be able to take advantage of the expanded memory limits on today’s hardware, which is especially important for an open-world game like Fallout, where everything—from interactive objects to building interiors—takes up a ton of memory.

2) It totally debunks that dumb Reddit rumor, just in case our debunker wasn’t enough for ya.

[Heisenberg]

Enjoyed a few hours of Fallout 3 this weekend. Turned evil after starting the Paradise Falls slave collar mission. For example, I went to Tenpenny Tower to collar someone and it ended up pissing the whole hotel off, but I couldn't turn back and they were all uppity anyways. Saved this one captive from a Super Mutant, turned him around and V.A.T.'ed him up, sent him to hell.

[drave]

Sounds like a quality Fallout session, honestly.

Can't wait for 4. I was going to cut down on game spending, but there are quite a few titles I want to pick up this year :(

[Heisenberg]

In Oasis(up north with the tree people) I'm going to find a way to keep the tree alive or make him suffer. I always did the right thing, but I want to make this run count and do things I haven't done in the game. Then I'm going to do a full run through Vegas

[drave]

Sold both my copies off 2 years ago. I hadn't done everything, but grew tired after multiple playthroughs.


Oh hey, both Metro titles have "free" demos that showcase at least 1/3 of the full game. Worth checking out if you want to shoot the shit out of shit with piss.

[Heisenberg]

Is it a sandbox game or straight FPS rail?

[drave]

FPS rail more or less, but it mixes in survival horror elements very well (limited ammo, resources, etc.).

Only played it for about 20 minutes before I got the Witcher itch again. I will revisit it though, I enjoyed what I did play.

[The Rogerer]

If PC gaming is so amazing and futuristic and consoles are holding everything back, then why is it so hard to get a cheap graphics card?

I remember buying a Geforce GT430 for about £40 new in 2011. 4 years later they all seem to be the same price. For some reason they made ten billion 210s and 610s.

WHAT'S THE DEAL

DOES ANYONE WANT TO SEND ME AN OLD GEFORCE

[drave]

I have an ATI Radeon 2600 XT with dual DVI output right now. You want it?

I don't.

[The Rogerer]

I don't actually want anything. I've never been able to make sense of ATI numbers either.

[drave]

Me either. I just google the model number and view the specs.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I always find this handy when looking for a new graphics card

http://gpuboss.com/compare-gpus

[#BROKEN Hasney]

So far we've got:


Voiced playable characters
Create a man and woman
Those creations make a baby
Start before the bomb
Run to the vault, then you come out 200 years later
Can give the dog commands
VATS looks the same as always
Can even play old arcade games on the pip boy
COLLECTORS EDITION HAS A PIPBOY THAT HOLDS A PHONE
Can be used with a phone app and that becomes your actual pipboy. HOLY SHIT.
A vault mobile game where you play the sims in a vault it seems. Then send them out into the wilderness when you have gear
The game has no timers even though it's F2P
Mobile game out TONIGHT for Apple devices
Can build houses in Fallout 4
Settlements you build need to be defended
Hundreds of mods for weapons and armour

[Dark One]

Seeing people bitch about the animations in the gameplay demo.

It's a fucking early demo.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Seeing people bitch about the animations in the gameplay demo.

It's a fucking early demo.

If the rumours are true, this isn't early. This is coming October.

And I couldn't give 2 shits about the animation with what they've shown.

[Heisenberg]

Those fuckin Deathclaws can frig off, hate those ammo wasting bastards

[#BROKEN Hasney]

NOVEMBER 10th 2015!!!!!

[Heisenberg]

going to go play Fallout Shelter now

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Sounded like the launch tonight was Apple only, so going to have to wait for Android I think.

[Dark One]

If the rumours are true, this isn't early. This is coming October.

And I couldn't give 2 shits about the animation with what they've shown.

Fair enough, but I feel like any demo they're putting up on stage at E3 has to be months old. I can't imagine a company's going to put a relatively untested section/demo up on stage.

[Heisenberg]

Sounded like the launch tonight was Apple only, so going to have to wait for Android I think.

my iPad 2 will be resurrected for this game

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Fair enough, but I feel like any demo they're putting up on stage at E3 has to be months old. I can't imagine a company's going to put a relatively untested section/demo up on stage.

Honestly, the animation won't change. Animation has never been great in their games, but it's offset by everything else.

[Dark One]

True enough. I mean, shit, most of the time--if anything--they'll show a SUPER-ULTRA-TURBO graphics version of a demo, so at least this one is honest.

Lots of people bitching about the Bethesda thing. People griping about Doom all over the place too.

WTF do people want?

[dronepool]

I pre ordered the Pip Boy Edition from Amazon.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Can't find the CE in the UK yet. I better not miss out.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

One of the devs tweeted about the vault app. Says it's not an Apple timed exclusive, it's just not out for Android yet.

[Heisenberg]

True enough. I mean, shit, most of the time--if anything--they'll show a SUPER-ULTRA-TURBO graphics version of a demo, so at least this one is honest.

Lots of people bitching about the Bethesda thing. People griping about Doom all over the place too.

WTF do people want?



DOOM looked awesome, screw those people

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Doom looked good, but I find that repetitive these days. I'll grab it in a sale as that editor is far too awesome looking.

[road doggy dogg]

True enough. I mean, shit, most of the time--if anything--they'll show a SUPER-ULTRA-TURBO graphics version of a demo, so at least this one is honest.

Lots of people bitching about the Bethesda thing. People griping about Doom all over the place too.

WTF do people want?

RIP in peace Killzone

[Heisenberg]

Dishonored 2 looks nice as well, the presenters were awkward and welcoming at the same time

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Need to replay Dishonored. The art style really bugs me.

[road doggy dogg]

Can't pre-order the Pip Boy thing on Amazon right now. any chance more will be available?

[Heisenberg]

V.A.T.S. shades are not on there either, dammit

[road doggy dogg]

Best Buy's website has it, wonder if I can just call my local store and order it there

[Heisenberg]

119.99 for the Pip-Boy Edition

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Fallout 3 comes with the XB1 version AND mods are on the XB1 version. Every mod on the PC version can be transferred.

[drave]

Wait.... what? FO3?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Wait.... what? FO3?

Yup! Assuming it's a download of the 360 version now it has backwards comparability rather than them remaking it.

[Heisenberg]

My Xbox One looks good with these announcement

[#BROKEN Hasney]

My Xbox One looks good with these announcement

There's a lot of mods that increase the needed spec of the game on PC though, so it's still the way to go. Not all mods will be compatible.

Even getting some is huge though.

[Heisenberg]

This*

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I hate special editions think they are a waste. I would rather have the money to buy almost two games for the price of the edition. That being said... yeah I want that Pip Boy.

[road doggy dogg]

so just... don't but the special editions? they only contain superfluous material

[drave]

I hate special editions think they are a waste. I would rather have the money to buy almost two games for the price of the edition. That being said... yeah I want that Pip Boy.

You want THAT pip boy or A pip boy?

Unless the one being released with 4 directly interacts with the game itself, you can buy a pip boy now that interacts with the game menus, as this one has been described.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

You want THAT pip boy or A pip boy?

Unless the one being released with 4 directly interacts with the game itself, you can buy a pip boy now that interacts with the game menus, as this one has been described.

Well to be fair, you could probably buy a knock off. The app is free for phones regardless, you just need to get your phone on your wrist.

[drave]

Right, but if it only goes through the game menus, there are pip boys that do that NOW without an app.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Right, but if it only goes through the game menus, there are pip boys that do that NOW without an app.

Nah, what I mean is the phone app can be used to take the place of the in-game menus, like equipping things. The Pipboy is just a piece of plastic.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Mods confirmed for PS4 as well. Order will be that person makes it for PC, then if compatible with XB1, will be exclusive for a bit then on PS4.

[Fignuts]

So far the biggest news in my opinion is Fallout 4 PC mods being downloadable to the Xbox One version. That is fucking huge. That has been, for decades now, the biggest advantage PC gamers have had over the consoles. Mountains of new content, completely free of charge. Obviously there is a lot of it that is shit, but anyone who has dabbled in mods for popular games like Skyrim will tell you that there is an insane amount of genuinely great content as well. Far more then you will ever get as DLC.

[drave]

Yea, fucking IMMENSE for sure.

Really hoping this sets a "standard" and can start happening with more titles.

[road doggy dogg]

nice

[road doggy dogg]

Anyone playing Fallout Shelter btw?

It's pretty fun but I find it annoying/difficult to do some of the touchscreen stuff (I'm on an iPhone 5). The notifications whenever YOUR RESOURCES ARE READY are annoying though, may need to turn them off.

Had to lol pretty hard when at one point my vault of ~18 people consisted of 6 pregnant chicks working the diner and the MEN working the power/water and exploring

[road doggy dogg]

ENTER VAULT 316

pretty hot

first go I just used my local area code but I fucked up my layout so started fresh with 316

Wonder if Bethesda has stats on how many people used 420 as their vault number

[Heisenberg]

Vault 736 here

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Bethesda, the PS4 and Xbox One versions of the game will have its graphics "dialed back a bit" compared to the PC version in order for it to have the same content and gameplay options be possible.

Console versions will be locked in at 1080p and 30fps while the PC won't have any restrictions.

http://www.destructoid.com/fallout-4-dialing-back-graphics-runs-at-1080p-30fps-294558.phtml

[Fignuts]

Fine with that. Bethesda have never had the most mind blowing graphics. Thats not what it's about.

[drave]

INDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!

[Tom Guycott]

Fuck yeah! Thanks to a friend of mine, I was able to get the Pip Boy version reserved today!

[road doggy dogg]

\_0__/

[Heisenberg]

http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/68e56971-aa8b-4c2b-8f97-f7060066926c/4a9e705b-8cba-41fe-a47f-af53ad4dba7e.gif

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I've got the pip boy from Amazon France reserved. Just worried it'll be tainted by the goddamn French.

[drave]

They are just going to drop it over and over :D

[road doggy dogg]

I keep getting super excited for FO4 and want to do a playthrough of 3 to scratch the itch, but at the same time I don't wanna burn myself out on the gameplay right before 4 comes out too. LIFE SO HARD

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Play 1 or 2. Enjoy the universe and not the gameplay.

[Fignuts]

I'm doing a playthrough of 3 after I'm done with the Batman games. Figure by the time I finish there will still be a good month or two before 4 hits to give myself a break.

[Fignuts]

Bethesda honored the 2,200 bottlecaps someone sent them and have reserved a copy of the game for them.

That's cool.

That combined with the lead designer's e3 presentation, where he was just kinda wingin' it and shooting the shit, as opposed to all the slimy comrporate execs coming out with cliched fake "we at horseshit productions are dedicated to bringing you blah blah blah" makes me really like Bethesda.

Seems like one of the last big companies that actually give a shit about the people buying their games.

[Tom Guycott]

Play 1 or 2. Enjoy the universe and not the gameplay.

Just make sure you use the last "official" fan patch from No Mutants Allowed.

[Emperor Smeat]

Anyone who was interested in the Pip Boy collector's edition but didn't pre-order yet very likely won't have a chance at grabbing one now baring paying scalpers at eBay and other places.

Bethesda announced they are no longer making any more Pip Boys with the final stock already done.

http://www.destructoid.com/bethesda-s-not-making-any-more-fallout-4-pip-boys-294885.phtml

[Heisenberg]

I plan on getting mine through a drunken Vaulter who wears their PipBoy to the bar

[road doggy dogg]

glad I got my pre-order through

[Emperor Smeat]

Bethesda holding a special deal for pre-ordering the game on the official Xbox website with Fallout 3 being given away as a free gift. The only catch is Bethesda isn't sure when it will actually be playable on the Xbox One.

esterday, Fallout 4 went up for pre-order on Xbox.com. Generally, this just means people can plop down money for a game that will release later. But, this circumstance is somewhat unique because Bethesda's offering a digital copy of Fallout 3 with Fallout 4 pre-orders.

According to Xbox, a code for Fallout 3 will be delivered seven to ten days after the pre-order is made. For now, Fallout 3 can only be played on Xbox 360, but "[it] will be included in backwards compatibility access when made available."

It's definitely planned, but no one's quite sure when it's happening. Even Bethesda doesn't know. When asked for a window that we could expect, a Bethesda representative told us "In terms of timing, we don't know what the time frame is as to when backwards compatibility will happen." They went on to suggest that maybe Microsoft could elaborate when Fallout 3 would be included in the program.

The Bethesda rep did clear up one tidbit about the pre-order bonus, though. The version people will get is the base game, not the Game of the Year edition. They commented "It is the intention that the DLC will also be made backwards compatible, but it is not part of the pre-order program."
http://www.destructoid.com/bethesda-doesn-t-know-when-xbox-will-make-fallout-3-backwards-compatible-295197.phtml

[Emperor Smeat]

VATS system getting overhauled for Fallout 4.

Fallout 4 will feature an overhauled V.A.T.S. system in an effort to make the feature more exciting for players, director Todd Howard has revealed.

Introduced in Fallout 3 as a compromise between the series turn-based roots and real-time reinvention, V.A.T.S. allowed players to freeze time and target enemies’ individual body parts by spending Action Points, or AP, from a limited pool. The system enabled a bit of old-school tactical thinking from players, allowing them to pause the action, weigh their percentage chances of success, and focus on weak points or limbs to do extra damage or cripple enemies for an extra advantage.

Many of those basics will remain intact for Fallout 4, but with a few crucial changes.“We found some ways to make it a bit, not a ton, but a bit more dynamic,” Howard told The Telegraph in a recent interview.

For starters, time will no longer freeze completely. Instead, Howard explained, it’ll continue to progress in slow motion, putting a ticking clock on your decisions. “It’s very, very slow and you’ll see the percentages change because the person is moving behind or coming out of a wall. So queuing up the shot at the right time matters.”

Also of note: Howard said critical hits will no longer be randomized, though details on that are a bit fuzzy. “You assign which shot is the critical one and you load up that bar. So it’s a little bit more under your control, not a lot, but just enough to make it feel better,” he said.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/fallout-4s-v-a-t-s-doesnt-work-the-way-you-might-expect/

[Shadow]

I, for one, welcome the VATS change.

[road doggy dogg]

tbh I very rarely used VATS in FO3/NV. Obviously 1 and 2 were different. Feels like the type of thing much more suited to a turn-based game than real-time but w/e

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Use it all the time. Probably too much. Need to slow the game down sometimes.

[Emperor Smeat]

New gameplay footage currently planned to be shown off during QuakeCon 2015 later this month according to Bethesda.

Won't be a public showing though.

During the popular Dallas convention, Besthesda will show off live gameplay footage for fans behind closed doors. Sadly, it won't be shown to the public and will only be seen by QuakeCon attendees. Also, just like previous special showings at the convention, recording and photography of the live demo will be prohibited, as the developers hate seeing bootleg footage of their games online.

Also more about the new Doom game will be shown off as well.
http://www.destructoid.com/bethesda-will-show-off-new-fallout-4-gameplay-to-quakecon-2015-attendees-295681.phtml

[DAMN iNATOR]

Use it all the time. Probably too much. Need to slow the game down sometimes.

V.A.T.S. proved to be most crucial to me when I'd need to take down one of the 5 Super Mutant Behemoths needed to be killed for the "The Bigger They Are..." achievement in Fallout 3.

In New Vegas it was most crucial when I decided to try to take down that massive family of Deathclaws living at the quarry.

[Tom Guycott]

V.A.T.S proved useful to me as one of those who had played 1 and 2 and was used to turn based action and not FPS. I also had not gotten in on any Elder Scrolls action at that time, so the engine was all new to me.

Unrelated: with all the callbacks, I wish they'd find a way to possibly introduce an Avellone. Hell, if Harold found his way east, Chris could have too. Or raised a family of ethical mercenaries who all went to different parts of the country to hunt down those with super low karma (or specifically anyone branded "child killers", but since that's a no-no/not even possible in the modern games, maybe they could change the parameters to child slavers?)

[Fignuts]

With the game taking place in the home of the commonwealth, I'm hoping you can become a blade runner and hunt down androids.

[DAMN iNATOR]

With the game taking place in the home of the commonwealth, I'm hoping you can become a blade runner and hunt down androids.

Always thought one of the best side-quests in FO3 was The Replicated Man (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/The_Replicated_Man).

[Tom Guycott]

With the game taking place in the home of the commonwealth, I'm hoping you can become a blade runner and hunt down androids.

Always thought one of the best side-quests in FO3 was The Replicated Man (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/The_Replicated_Man).

Makes sense, especially since a recurring weapon is That Gun (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/That_Gun).

[DAMN iNATOR]

LOL, if anybody here hasn't seen the FO3 "ad" and you get really bored and need to kill 30-45 seconds, there is an actual toll-free # with a hilarious recording. I don't want to SPAM<SUP>TM</SUP> up the thread, so I will place it in a spoiler tag. Don't want anyone blaming me for getting caught doing it at work or something.

It's 1-888-4VAULT TEC (1-888-482-8588).

[drave]

Rang to an appliance store.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Fuck. I'm sorry, man. I fucked up. Hope some person didn't wonder why some random guy was calling... *GULP* :$

I fixed it in the original post though.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Transcript of the recording you get:

Thank-You for calling Vault-Tec, your first choice in post-nuclear survival! We're sorry, but due to unexpectedly high call volume, all representatives are currently busy. Please, stay on the line and someone will be with you. There are currently... (*Robo-Brain style voice*) one-hundred and one...million (*normal voice*) ...callers in front of you. Estimated wait time... (*Robo-Brain*) seventy-eight thousand...six hundred and forty-three hours. (*normal voice*) Thank-You for calling Vault-Tec! Have a wonderful day!

[Emperor Smeat]

Bethesda recently revealed some details on how the perks system will work.
Perhaps most crucially, the developer confirmed that you’ll earn a perk every time you level up. That’s the approach Fallout 3 took, but it’s far from standard. The first two Fallout games only granted you a perk once every three levels, while 2010′s New Vegas, the most recent release, offered one for every two.

In another big change, each perk you unlock will now be tied to and organized under one of the seven S.P.E.C.I.A.L. attributes that define your character’s aptitude in various areas of gameplay. It’s currently not entirely clear whether that means players with a high stat in one attribute will be able to get a bigger benefit from a perk that’s tied to it. That would certainly be an interesting change from how the series has handled things in the past.

Only one perk was confirmed to return, Bloody Mess, which turns your kills into more of a gory bloodbath. No doubt plenty of other old favorites will be back, too.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/how-perks-will-be-changing-in-fallout-4/


EGMNow had a write up of all the stuff shown during the exclusive Quakecon demo shown recently at the event. Besides the perks system, the companion system was shown off and the new scavenging ability the dog has for the game.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/fallout-4-quakecon-demo-reveals-new-companions-returning-weapons-and-perks/

[DAMN iNATOR]

Probably won't have the opportunity to play it anytime soon unfortunately, but I'd love to see, amongst other perks, Here and Now (advances you 1 full level immediately upon taking) & Grim Reaper's Sprint (reveals all major map locations), return.

[Tom Guycott]

Don't you mean "Explorer"? Grim Reaper's is AP refresh on a kill. And Here and Now is a waste, unless they chose this game to make leveling insanely hard to do.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Yeah. Shows how long it's been since I've played FO3, LOL.

But yeah, I'll stand by my statement. Here and Now, Grim Reaper's Sprint, and Explorer should all definitely make returns.

If I ever do get a decent deal on a PS4/XB1 and finally get to experience it I hope they won't be messing with my fav. skills...I needs me my Speech, Sneak, Science and Lockpicking skills.

[Tom Guycott]

An unsung perk from New Vegas I wouldn't mind returning is "Four Eyes"... provided they didn't change how glasses aren't altered by most hats or helmets. They were a lot more scarce than in FO3, but since you can pilfer some from the good doctor (which doesn't count as stealing), that should hold you until finding some to repair them with and you negate the penalty for not wearing them before you even leave the house. That's a Perception point I can drop elsewhere on the initial SPECIAL allocation.

Also, while Bloody Mess is fun, not to mention a staple since the beginning (not to mention how to get the "most satisfying" ending from the first game), the newer games sometimes make it hard to scavenge from a thin red paste and gibs than a full- or only missing one limb, tops- corpse. Nice to know it's there, but unless it alters some point in the game in a major, perk specific way (like Wild Wasteland does), it'll never see use from me.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I invested a lot of my initial S.P.E.C.I.A.L. points in Luck. Actually really enjoyed all the casinos on the New Vegas Strip and the one in the town where to leave you had to either prove you had enough credits to enter New Vegas' Strip, or if you had high enough Science you could hack the Protectron and program it to let you through.

Always enjoyed making tons of $ on the slots before being kicked out and also playing Caravan, particularly with Novac resident No-Bark Noonan. Lot of those credits got spent at the Gun Runners and the New Vegas Free Clinic. :)

[VSG]

Quakecon demo was really nice, it managed to convince me to get the game and the PC anthology as well.

[Tom Guycott]

I invested a lot of my initial S.P.E.C.I.A.L. points in Luck. Actually really enjoyed all the casinos on the New Vegas Strip and the one in the town where to leave you had to either prove you had enough credits to enter New Vegas' Strip, or if you had high enough Science you could hack the Protectron and program it to let you through.

Always enjoyed making tons of $ on the slots before being kicked out and also playing Caravan, particularly with Novac resident No-Bark Noonan. Lot of those credits got spent at the Gun Runners and the New Vegas Free Clinic. :)

Before the initial big post-launch patch that fixed some major bugs, balancing issues, and the fact that you had to drop playing cards and pick them up again to add them to your deck, Caravan was one the biggest player favored scams in the game.

When the game dropped, the money pool against the NPC vendors were combined, and the number of times you could play each potential sucker was unlimited. This meant that you could clean them out by playing a few hands, buy all their shit, then win that money back after. By the time you hit Primm, The Outpost, and Novac up for all their goods and caps/dollars/denarii all from fast travel, it would be about enough days time elapsed for the vendor refresh to kick in, and the first player you hustled would have new items and more money. You'd be rich before you even got CLOSE to Vegas (unless you know how to sneak past the deathclaws to take the shortest way... which has also been sort of patched, as they added more deathclaws, nearly assuring you'll be detected. Nearly. ^_-)

Alas, that's all gone. Have to break the economy in different ways. There's still the 100% gold trick from the Sierra Madre, but that's tedious and non-renewable.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Wow. I knew they'd patched the fuck out of some shit with the "Fallout: New Vegas Complete Edition", but holy fuck, what you just described is insane.


I remember installing all the DLC from the Complete Edition DLC disc and rushing to get all my pre-gaming for my trip to Helios One out of the way, and then tackling the "That Lucky Old Sun" quest given by a guy called Fantastic, I think. You could overload a terminal and go back to Ignacio Rivas and tell him you'd done so as a special dialog option and receive a small amount of stimpaks and doctor's bags, and it could be repeated ad infinitum until you had as many of each as you wanted, as well as you would get like +350XP for each time you did so and could easily max your level early on.

Well, as it turned out, the DLC installation caused that to be patched, and I was pissed until I remembered to uninstall the DLC and proceed with the quest and reinstall the DLC.

Not gonna lie, I exploited the shit out of that bug/glitch and took as much as I could carry, LOL. Good times.

[Tom Guycott]

Oddly enough, I have no problem exploiting money holes, but experience loops kind of take the fun out of things for me. And as far as the DLC, it seems to be separate recognition for the GOTY and standard download versions. I have some duplicates of quest rewards because I installed GOTY on my slim 360 when I upgraded. So, I ended up with two sets of Burning Man armor, all the GRA and pre-order stuff when it ticked off I had all of it installed twice.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I think that may be part of the reason why they're introducing different "zones" that you'll basically have to stay within at first in order to avoid being badly outleveled and inferiorly equipped (I.e., a lv. 2 VH vs. a lv. 25 super mutant wouldn't end well for the player...).

Some people might complain about not being able to freely roam the entire map from the start, but I actually think it will be a welcome change.

[drave]

No.

"On paper" it sounds dumb, especially comparing to past FO experiences. I will reserve judgment for now, as I will with the "dramatic changes" to FF VII.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the lead producer, it can take up to 400 hours to find and do everything in the game because of how it is in terms of scope.

“I’ve played the game for probably 400 hours, and I’m still finding stuff I haven’t seen,” Bethesda’s lead producer, Jeff Gardiner, said in the latest issue of OXM, as spotted by Gamespresso.

Fallout 4’s new crafting system contributes a lot of that new content, Gardiner says. In a first for the series, players will be able to fully customize weapons and body armor, as well as specific sections of the Wasteland through custom-built settlements that can even support electronics and automated computer systems, provided you’ve got a generator.

To keep the crafting from becoming too overwhelming, the game apparently includes special features to help players organize their scavenging efforts. “You can actually flag stuff to say ‘I’m looking for this stuff because I want to make this,’ which means that when you’re scavenging anything that fulfills the requirement gets flagged in the world,” Gardiner explains.
http://www.egmnow.com/platforms/seeing-everything-in-fallout-4-could-take-more-than-400-hours/

[Fignuts]

Oh that's nice. Was actually thinking I'd have to keep a notebook handy to keep track of all the ingredients for all the stuff I wanted to craft.

Fallout Myst

[Shadow]

Wouldn't it be kinda cool if the system they're talking about actually is tied to your Pip Boy app?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Confirmed that there will be no hard end to the story AND no level cap.

[drave]

*Insert obligatory hard end pun here*

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'm sure this news is just the tip

[drave]

THERE IT IS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!


Hasney of Hollywood everyone!!!!!

Come back for the 11 o' clock show - it's complete different from the 8 o' clock show!


Hey, is "o' clock" an Irish thing?

[road doggy dogg]

hasney of the clock

[Heisenberg]

There's footage of me performing Fuck the Police with my brother who is Military Police, totally forgot about that

[drave]

That footage needs to be consumed by TEH HEISENVERSE!

[drave]

Don't hurt em though.

Please Heisenberg, don't hurt 'em. MC Hammer didn't and I know you can aspire to his level of greatness with your rap video.


Keep it 100 - always.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

There's footage of me performing Fuck the Police with my brother who is Military Police, totally forgot about that

What level was yr charisma?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

[Speech, 83%] FUCK DA POLICE

[road doggy dogg]

Guys this is coming out in like 3 months

so excite

[Shadow]

Man that's gonna expand the community build thing indefinitely.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Guys this is coming out in like 3 months

so excite

Fuck I know. Might not have it on release date as it's being shipped from fucking France, but I had to buy that pip boy edition.

Might get it on PC too anyway then will have it on launch day and then just have the pip boy later.

[road doggy dogg]

Yeah same, I missed out on the Canadian sites for CE so I ordered it off Best Buy in the US and am having it shipped to my uncle's. Might have to make a trip down there that day to pick it up

[Heisenberg]

no level cap is the most coolest thing to come out and was way better than anything Gamescom had to offer

[road doggy dogg]

Will monsters still scale with your level?

[Fignuts]

Will probably take a long weekend off from work for this.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Will monsters still scale with your level?

Nah, they're going to have some stupid-ass BS where various zones of the map will have levels higher than you are. I highly suspect they want people to play the main story in a linear way so you can't just rush from Main mission 1 - Final main mission in record time or some dumb crap.

[Shadow]

I'm not exactly unhappy with that. I loved how in New Vegas you had a definite path to take and couldn't just rush from point to point. Felt like I was on a journey with definite landmarks. Whereas in 3, you could just go from 101 over to Vault 112 and skip half the game's content. Here, I'm actually happy about this.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Hey, noy for nothin', that 100G Hardcore achievement in FO:NV was my last and I exploited the hell out of tge the Stimpacj/Dr, Bags/XP bug I described from the "That Lucky Old Sun", and any spots where I COULD speedrun, even just a little., I did...I tgink I may have taken the Wild Card main quest branch most.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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Shitty offscreen vid.

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently the closed off demo videos of Fallout 4 shown during Gamescom are currently available to view online but with a twist ... the video links are hosted on a porn website for some unknown reason.

Fallout 4 was at gamescom 2015 in the form of a closed off theatre demo you could wait in a real long line for. But why wait in a line when you can just watch "Hidden Camera Shows Audience Teased by Big Butt Man in Tights Live" on line. Hah.

It's actually not about butts at all, but a sneaky recording of Fallout 4.

You can watch it here, but obvious NSFW warning, as it leaks to a porn site with videos like, "Babe Red-head lesbian," "Wake me for Sex," and "Titfuck until completion."

http://www.destructoid.com/fallout-4-gameplay-leaks-via-porn-site-304281.phtml

[#BROKEN Hasney]

That'd be great if I stumbled across it. Dick out, ready to cum over some vid... "WATI, is that Fallout 4?" then I would take in the half hour before resuming the porn hunt.

[Shadow]

Fallout Shelter dropped for Android.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Bethseda, the game's crafting feature is completely optional to use for those that don't care about the feature or at least during the first time playing the game.

It’s a completely optional, freeform thing that you can do, if that’s what you want to do. If you don’t care about that and you just want to play quests and play side quests, and finish the main quest and that sort of thing then you can just ignore all of this [crafting]. Or do as much or as little as you want.

http://www.destructoid.com/you-can-complete-fallout-4-without-doing-any-crafting-304813.phtml

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Fallout Shelter dropped for Android.

Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

[Shadow]

According to Bethseda, the game's crafting feature is completely optional to use for those that don't care about the feature or at least during the first time playing the game.



http://www.destructoid.com/you-can-complete-fallout-4-without-doing-any-crafting-304813.phtml

Its ok Bethesda. You've got my money. You don't need to keep selling me on this game.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Fallout Shelter dropped for Android.

And it's a real piece of shit, too. All you do is herd people into your vault, assign them to power/water/food management, try to gey them to reproduce every once in a while and build more and more crap. You can send people out into the wastes to kill shit and scavenge resources, but that's really all it's about...figuring out who to put where and when and clicking the power/food/water icons when it's time to.

1/10, IMO.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I should point out I was very much excited to play the app, too, and obviously was sorely disappointed in it...went from playing it to uninstalled in a couple of hours or so.

[drave]

You could have figured out everything you bitched about months ago if you read about it.

:|

[DAMN iNATOR]

TBF, I actually did read about it before trying it, just wanted to see if there was any truth to the "review"...naturally, I was skeptical at first, but the more I kept playing, the more I realized the person who's review I had read wasn't just talking out of their ass.

[Heisenberg]

umm, it's not only resources and shit, you can just make them fuck the whole time and have little vault dwellers running around into RUSH areas and watch them flee from that shit too

[DAMN iNATOR]

I know...there's minor shit like that and giving them outfits and weapons and building more and more rooms...but for me, it just didn't add to the rather shallow core game enough for me to justify keeping it

Hate to say it, but it seems to me like a "freemium" game with its monetization of buying lunchboxes and Mr. Handys buried in the "Pip-Boy Menu".

[Heisenberg]

They don't commit to one person, it's a fuck free for all in there

[Shadow]

Handy's are .99. They're literally easy mode for the game so you don't have to watch it all the time. For fuck's sake.

[Tom Guycott]

Just gonna pull this outta context...

Handy's are .99.


And I'm also going to try to counterbalance Damn's negativity by stating that I like the game, not just as a Fallout fanboy, either. Its a great diversion for what it is. Except for deathclaws. Fuck those.

Glad they didn't make the "bullshit currency" useless and made lunchboxes accessible by other means than just spending actual money. And as such, if you spend actual money, the only guarantee you have of anything is the separate purchase of Mr. Handy. Lunchboxes purchased are just as random as lunchboxes gained from completing tasks.

But I spent actual money on Mr. Handy. Not bad. You can't heal him, but you can resurrect him like any other dead dweller (though it is fixed at 2000 caps).

Just as long as this stays out of the actual retail game and stays its own thing, its fine.

[Heisenberg]

Fallout Shelter made me crack down and start over like 6 times. Trying to have a reasonable shelter that can do without me sleeping and working.

[road doggy dogg]

I know...there's minor shit like that and giving them outfits and weapons and building more and more rooms...but for me, it just didn't add to the rather shallow core game enough for me to justify keeping it

Hate to say it, but it seems to me like a "freemium" game with its monetization of buying lunchboxes and Mr. Handys buried in the "Pip-Boy Menu".

ummm this is the exact definition of a freemium game

they haven't exactly hidden that fact

[road doggy dogg]

anyway, I haven't played in a while but it got a solid 3-4 weeks of entertainment out of me, not bad for a free phone game

[Heisenberg]

I renamed my whole vault of 20 ppl. Very classy names if you know what I mean

[road doggy dogg]

I didn't bother with renames, but I defs am rocking Vault 316

[Shadow]

Fallout Shelter made me crack down and start over like 6 times. Trying to have a reasonable shelter that can do without me sleeping and working.

Mr. Handy helps with that. And at .99, he's a steal.

[The Destroyer]

Yeah but each one is only good for one level. Hence the option to buy 5 at once, I guess.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Bethesda, specs and more details regarding the PC version likely won't be announced till around October the latest.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/louis_meadows">@louis_meadows</a> we usually announce system specs a month or less before a game's launch</p>&mdash; Pete Hines (@DCDeacon) <a href="https://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/634283728773226496">August 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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http://www.egmnow.com/platforms/bethesda-keeps-mum-on-fallout-4s-pc-specs-shares-when-well-learn-more/

[Emperor Smeat]

Season Pass costing $30 was announced by Bethesda.

It'll cost $30, and will allow users to earn all initial DLC in one go (Bethesda notes it will be "all Fallout DLC ever" but passes have promised that before), with the first drop scheduled for early 2016. The company is also guaranteeing free updates and tweaks for its games, as it has in the past, like Skyrim's Kinect patch.
http://www.destructoid.com/fallout-4-is-getting-a-season-pass-because-it-is-a-video-game-in-2015-309991.phtml

[road doggy dogg]

eff season passes...

[Shadow]

Yeah gotta say I don't like the season pass business model. Just seems like a waste of money to me.

[Tom Guycott]

That shit should be included with CE. If you're a big enough fan to want a Pip Boy, you should be rewarded.




Shelter has turned me into a monster on par with Vault-Tec's experiments.

I started well. Suffered through deathclaw maulings, a lot of freakin' molerat infestations (and subsequent electricity shortages because of the little bastards eating through my ample surplus), intentional fires from failed rushes for caps, and through it all, I've achieved a happy vault full of fairly skilled and semi-heavily armed inhabitants.

But the damned lunchboxes taunt me.

And between the baby factory prompting, the "happy accidents" from trying to get dwellers to dance, then not being able to stop them because an incident springs up and they end up screwing when the focus shifts to the other end of the vault, and the radio room, I am now full to capacity. And there are so many of the "special" dwellers I have yet to collect from lunchboxes.

So, I've been sending dwellers off to die in the wilderness... alone, unarmed, unequipped... so that I can remove them from the population so it can drop below the cap and possibly get better dwellers from lunchboxes. If I send off 3 more, I might get someone from this lunchbox... oh, sweet! It's Bittercup! Worth it!

I'm a horrible overseer. And it's thanks to the lunchboxes.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I kind of like that season passes exist these days. Not that I would ever buy them before all the DLC is out, but what tends to happen is that they'll be reduced in a sale and are already cheaper than buying all the DLC separately, so if the content is good, it's good to get at a decent price.

[Tom Guycott]

The problem with the Season Pass notion, though, is that it it is usually never "hey, you people like this game? Well, shit, we can make more content for it then, how about that?" and is instead shit they already worked on and just plain left it out to sell separately. Prime example is in New Vegas, Ulysses was supposed to be a follower similar to Boone, except with Legion ties instead of NCR. But they played the "space constraints" card and just tossed him into some DLC. Now, Bethesda has been doing *good* DLC, and usually not blatant cash grabs (except the whole "second ending" for Fallout 3 thing).

Yes, they have a higher percentage of "good" DLC to shit ones than your average game, but you're still being asked to essentially pay $90 for the "entire" game... when the "entire" game eventually reveals itself. and that's pre collectors edition or any other bells and whistles. Or wait about a year and buy the eventual GotY edition you know is coming for the same price the vanilla launched at.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Most people wait for the the Game of the Year for FallOut DLC anyways right? There will be plenty of shit to do before going for it.

[Tom Guycott]

Okay, so what you're saying is, you'll buy the game at launch, play it for a year, then buy it again at full retail just because it included DLC? That's dumber, and more expensive, than buying each bit separately. And you end up with the same game twice.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It's usually 20 bucks by the time I pick it up. Wait til the Game of the Year becomes a Xbox hit.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Death claws just took out like 35 percent of my 90 team crew.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Not sure if I want to leave them to revive or just write them off.

[Tom Guycott]

Death claws just took out like 35 percent of my 90 team crew.

Setting up a string of single rooms as a trap on the first floor (used to be first two floors with a weaker crew) solved that problem for me. I only have a single elevator shaft, and deathclaws/raiders clear the floor before going down a level.

They only hit the entrance and the rooms on the end once, and every other room twice. Best scavenged guns are equipped on the top of the vault, and with 2 dwellers in SINGLE SQUARE rooms , it makes it easier to stimpak them without 2 or 3 standing on top of eachother, and the menaces hit each room, so more smaller rooms mean more stops. Raiders never make it past the second room. Deathclaws are pretty much contained to the first floor, and wiped out before they make it back to the elevator shaft.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Heard it happens when you open your door when you have a radio station.

[Tom Guycott]

Those greatly increase the chances, but they still can happen at random in the way random in-vault incidents happen even without a rush fail.

[Heisenberg]

Expectation: Hoping they don't job the Brotherhood of Steel out like they did in Vegas. Hopefully they roam above ground and not in a bunker with crappy fence defense

[Tom Guycott]

Brotherhood generally keeps to bunkers, though. They're more or less isolationists. Not as secluded as they were in the first game, but they keep to themselves. Having too many roaming the wastes is like having a roaming herd of hermits... which would stop making them hermits and turn them into hobos. I didn't too much like how they had patrols all over the place in 3. They find prewar tech and hide it away from the world and kinda don't give a shit about the world. Vegas was more accurate.

[Shadow]

That's on the West Coast though. East Coast, both Brotherhood and Outcasts roamed the wastes looking for tech. The Outcasts kept to the Brotherhood code of hoarding while the other Brotherhood of Steel decided to become a power in the Capital Wasteland. No word on if we'll see that faction but I kinda want them to have migrated their values and ideals up to the Commonwealth cause I like that version of the Brotherhood.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Expectation: Hoping they don't job the Brotherhood of Steel out like they did in Vegas. Hopefully they roam above ground and not in a bunker with crappy fence defense

Sort of makes sense. They have bases of power in DC and are a fringe spot in Las Vegas. Killing them all was the hardest part of the game every play though.

[Tom Guycott]

That's on the West Coast though. East Coast, both Brotherhood and Outcasts roamed the wastes looking for tech. The Outcasts kept to the Brotherhood code of hoarding while the other Brotherhood of Steel decided to become a power in the Capital Wasteland. No word on if we'll see that faction but I kinda want them to have migrated their values and ideals up to the Commonwealth cause I like that version of the Brotherhood.

I had a line in my original post about how that faction split business was more to explain how they are so prevalent on the east coast to keep their lore, and more importantly, their iconic armor in the game, but I somehow didn't post that. I actually mind it a lot less than "the fate of Harold" (I know they weren't sure how well received 3 would be, but they should have saved him for Vegas). Still, I don't like BoS being so visible, but that's on me.

[Tom Guycott]

With that said, it *is* nice that they are trying to establish their own canon in the northeast. Vegas was a nice bookend for 1 and 2, and didn't quite venture into Wasteland canon territory of Arizona/Texas.

[Emperor Smeat]

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Fallout 4 uses the long-standing SPECIAL system in a very different way to previous games. Before, it was like the attribute system in Dungeon & Dragons, where you could use it to specialise your character in a way slightly more permanent than the skills system. For example, if you wanted to play as a brutish brawler in Fallout 3, you would choose at the start of the game to have high strength and endurance.

In Fallout 4, all of your SPECIAL stats will start at one, and each time you level up you will be given a point to spend on a new stat. Raising one of your SPECIAL stats up enough will then unlock a new perk related to it.
http://www.destructoid.com/todd-howard-explains-the-new-perks-system-in-this-fallout-4-trailer-312428.phtml

[Emperor Smeat]

For those interested in the digital version, need at least 28 GB of free space based on a recent leak by the Xbox Marketplace.

http://i.imgur.com/14ojLBL.jpg
http://www.icxm.net/x/fallout-4-28-gb-xbox.html

[Emperor Smeat]

For those that usual dislike console (and retailer) exclusive DLC, Bethesda stated this game won't have any of it.

Bethesda has confirmed that Fallout 4 will not have time-exclusive DLC on any platform.

Responding to a query on Twitter, VP of marketing Pete Hines stated that there were no plans to have an exclusivity deal with "anyone."

http://www.destructoid.com/fallout-4-we-aren-t-doing-a-dlc-exclusive-with-anyone--312803.phtml

[Emperor Smeat]

Special Xbox One Fallout 4 bundle was announced to arrive the same day as the game itself.

The Fallout 4 bundle comes with an Xbox One console with a 1TB hard drive, Fallout 4, and Fallout 3 (which will be backward compatible and able to be played on Xbox One sometime in the future). The price is set at a respectable $399 -- that's usually how much the system with an upgraded hard drive would cost.

All of this becomes available on November 10 when Fallout 4 releases. It seems as if most retailers should have it. Amazon already has pre-orders up. Others are likely to follow.
http://www.destructoid.com/microsoft-ends-its-week-o-xbox-one-holiday-bundles-with-a-bombshell-313536.phtml

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

When are the PC specs coming out for this motherlover?

[Emperor Smeat]

Specs for the PC version:

Here's what you'll need for the best experience with Fallout 4:
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Processor: Intel Core i7 4790 3.6 GHz/AMD FX-9590 4.7 GHz or equivalent
Memory:8 GB RAM
Hard Drive: 30 GB free HDD space
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GTX 780 3GB/AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB or equivalent

If you can't meet that threshold, the minimum requirements are a bit more forgiving.
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Processor: Intel Core i5-2300 2.8 GHz/AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Hard Drive: 30 GB free HDD space
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti 2GB/AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB or equivalent



In terms of harddrive space needed for the console versions:
Anyone playing on consoles won't need to worry about all of that. Just load up the game and it'll work. Magic. But, Bethesda says to set aside 28-35GB of hard drive space depending on territory and language support.

http://www.destructoid.com/fallout-4-s-pc-specs-aren-t-dropping-any-bombshells-314574.phtml

[road doggy dogg]

Should be fine on my PC. Might need to slap some more RAM in there... I have 16 GB (4x4GB) available but whenever I put in more than two sticks it constantly crashes. Not sure if bad RAM or bad mobo :fu:

[Tom Guycott]

Holy fuck, so Wasteland 2 is getting a xbone port... between that and Fallout 4, I'm going to be in post-nuclear apocalypses all winter long!

[drave]

Should be fine on my PC. Might need to slap some more RAM in there... I have 16 GB (4x4GB) available but whenever I put in more than two sticks it constantly crashes. Not sure if bad RAM or bad mobo :fu:

Which version of Windows are you running? Hopefully 64 bit. Quite certain 32bit cannot utilize anything > 8GB.

Swap out all the pieces of RAM and power the machine on to see if the RAM is bad. If you hook 2 pieces at a time in the same two slots and it works, swap with the other two slots and see if you have trouble.

If you don't have any issues on the first two slots, but you do on the 2nd two, it is most likely your moBo.

Pancreas and shaz bagl too.

[road doggy dogg]

yeah I got 64-bit

I'll dick around with it this weekend

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I got this
http://i.imgur.com/yAToDcp.jpg

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

That's pretty mean to sell that before Fallout 4. Now it's incomplete instantly.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

That's pretty mean to sell that before Fallout 4. Now it's incomplete instantly.

It actually has a case ready for Fallout 4, which is pretty sweet.

[DAMN iNATOR]

It actually has a case ready for Fallout 4, which is pretty sweet.

And best of all, with that bundle you don't get stuck with the flaming pile of shit that was Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel...DOUBLE WIN!

[Tom Guycott]

I got this
http://i.imgur.com/yAToDcp.jpg

1) hopefully, 1 and 2 includes the unofficial performance mods like the Interplay collection did. Didn't have the final versions, but it was a nice gesture to add the fan patches on disc in addition to the vanilla games.

2) is that A-Ha's "Take On Me" in the background?

[Wishbone]

Really debating whether or not I should pre-order this... I mean on the one hand I know I'm gonna buy it, but on the other hand I'm a little iffy on buying it only to have all the bugs Bethesda games usually have at launch make me shelf it until the fan patches start rolling out. :-/

[#BROKEN Hasney]

1) hopefully, 1 and 2 includes the unofficial performance mods like the Interplay collection did. Didn't have the final versions, but it was a nice gesture to add the fan patches on disc in addition to the vanilla games.

2) is that A-Ha's "Take On Me" in the background?

It's basically the GOG versions of 1 and 2 and I can't remember what they have in them.

Nah, was watching Archer at the time.

[Heisenberg]

Really debating whether or not I should pre-order this... I mean on the one hand I know I'm gonna buy it, but on the other hand I'm a little iffy on buying it only to have all the bugs Bethesda games usually have at launch make me shelf it until the fan patches start rolling out. :-/



ride the lightning with us

[Shadow]

But the bugs are half the fun of a Bethesda game.

[Tom Guycott]

Damn. Looks like they stealth updated Shelter. Only can send 10 dwellers out to the wasteland at a time, when I previously had a rotation of about 20 including the ones I send off to their demise to stay under the 200 cap.

[Heisenberg]

couldn't enjoy any downtime with the added run-ins of Deathclaws so I saved myself the time and uninstalled. Trashing my Nuka-Cola reactors every minute was not cool when all I wanted to do was oversee how many babies Poopfromweiner dude was making

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I created AJ Lee and CM Punk and their baby was named Vincent. Is this an Easter Egg or just random happenstance?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I have heavy weapons dudes (Rocket Launchers) in the first room, so most intruders are dead before they can even get into the main Vault. Keeping the elevators in a straight line was good advice for DeathClaws. They run predictable patterns.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

So does anybody know when pre-orderers are expected to get Fallout3 code?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

So does anybody know when pre-orderers are expected to get Fallout3 code?

When it's ready. Backwards compatibility isn't coming out of preview until November, so probably not until then. It might even come after Fallout 4.

[Emperor Smeat]

Newest trailer released for the game:
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Bethesda revealed they hired the guy responsible for Destiny's Vita control scheme to work on Remote Play for the PS4 version.
This afternoon, Bethesda tweeted a picture of Fallout 4 being played on Vita. Accompanying the image is the text "Great controls thanks to control-freak [Josh Hamrick], who helped create Destiny's [Vita controls]." Bungie had a simplified and optimized control scheme created specifically for Destiny on Remote Play.
http://www.destructoid.com/fallout-4-on-vita-via-remote-play-has-been-specially-tailored-315469.phtml

[DAMN iNATOR]

Didn't play that vid, but man, I really miss the font they used to usr for the numbers on the back of the Vault suits in FO3 & FO:NV. :(

[Tom Guycott]

couldn't enjoy any downtime with the added run-ins of Deathclaws so I saved myself the time and uninstalled. Trashing my Nuka-Cola reactors every minute was not cool when all I wanted to do was oversee how many babies Poopfromweiner dude was making

I have heavy weapons dudes (Rocket Launchers) in the first room, so most intruders are dead before they can even get into the main Vault. Keeping the elevators in a straight line was good advice for DeathClaws. They run predictable patterns.

My whole first floor is a trap. Everyone there is level 50, full SPECIAL, has heavy weapons, and they're all double occupancy single rooms. Pretty much all storerooms at this point. No immediate function to fuck up from deathclaws.... who now only make it through the top once, and don't have the chance to backtrack towards the elevator. Raiders never make it out the vault entrance.

Speaking of raiders, they apparently can be looted now; as their corpses linger for about a minute. Seems like what you get is random, but still worth knowing.