WRESTLEMANIA 32 TPWW *OFFICIAL* Thread [Archive] - Page 8

rockman725

04-04-2016, 02:22 AM

I'll have to remember to save & print out this thread & read it while watching this WM over again in the future. The stuff in here is amazing!

:y:

I think one of the problems is that we (IWC) collectively talked ourselves into the idea that "no, Reigns winning as the main event is a bad decision and anything other than that match should close." We hyped ourselves in thinking that something, anything big would happen to prevent the inevitable finish we all saw coming. Then, they turn around and do it anyway and we are now completely let down from our own hype.

Do I think this WM was bad? Yes & No. I entered the night with very little expectations. There were some good matches, but a lot of stupid finishes with wrong winners. Zayn, Sasha, and AJ should have all been winners in their matches. Period. Ambrose IMO should have won against Lesnar, but if he was going to lose, make it a viable loss. That "street fight" was anything but a street fight. Taker winning honestly leaves next to nothing in a storyline that was starting to push forward with interesting alternatives. Everything else on the card seemed bland and too much of a Raw filler.

I still think it wasn't that great as a whole, but it could have been worse. Far from the worst Mania, but no where near the best.

Rammsteinmad

04-04-2016, 02:22 AM

You should watch Takeover as a palate cleanser before your hiatus, Rammy.

Or, at least, Zayn/Nakamura from entrances to pinfall.

I love NXT, but when it all comes down to it, WWE IS pro-wrestling as far as I'm concerned. I need to either shut off wrestling for a while and just see how I feel, or continue watching whilst feeling nothing but disappointment and boredom.

Rammsteinmad

04-04-2016, 02:30 AM

I don't have an issue with the Foley/HBK/Austin bit with LON. Mainly because outside of Barrett (who's apparently leaving soon) Rusev, Alberto and Sheamus all have the combined charisma of wet towels. Sure, they're all solid hands in the ring, but for as long as they've been around, none of them (outside of MAYBE Barret) have even a hint of future main eventer in them.

Nobody said that any of them need to be main eventers, but it's the same reminder every single time, that todays superstars are inferior to those of the past. None of them will ever really achieve anything if they're constantly bitched out to old, out-of-shape fat guys (and HBK).

BigCrippyZ

04-04-2016, 02:30 AM

In the case of Kalisto, and kind of related to your theory of sharing air-time with legends, I think it's more a case of the quality of what we're seeing, rather than the fact we're seeing it.

Kalisto has two wins over Ryback now, clean. Should be a big deal, but nobody really gives a fuck because the matches were pretty boring. I like both guys, but long matches do not favor Ryback, especially when his opponent is a midget who he should be eating for breakfast.

I agree. It's similar to them pushing Reigns and Cena (at least in the past) as underdogs. Cena looks more than capable, especially when he always over comes the odds... and ESPECIALLY Reigns, who looks like pretty much a bad ass, mother fucking, ass kicker, who probably doesn't actually need to talk much to get over, ala Goldberg, Taker, Kane, etc.

when it happens EVERY FUCKING TIME it's basically saying "you'll never be as good as the Attitude Era guys". Just for once, I'd love to see Rock or Austin or someone get in a guy like Bray Wyatt's face, and for Wyatt to just hit the Sister Abigail and walk off, without being made to look like a bitch.

I agree, it's been over done to the point it's become an issue, where it's actively preventing newer talent from getting over or reaching the level of the past stars. Unfortunately, Vince doesn't seem to care enough to realize this and/or do something different.

Fignuts

04-04-2016, 02:35 AM

Enjoyed the show, even if I didn't agree with some of the decisions.

Ladder match was fun, but then they always are. I actually had kind of a gut feeling Ryder might win, as he has been winning more matches lately and delivered a phenomenal promo on wwe.com. Also figured Zayn vs Owen feud could continue without the title by sami taking owens out of the match, which is what ended up happening. Anyway, super happy for Ryder. Guy totally deserves it.

AJ and Jericho had their best match yet, but something still feels a little off. I honestly think it's Jericho being older and slower these days. It looked like they were on two different speeds. And my god will anyone be able to take Styles' springboard reverse DDT without botching it? Still a really good match, and I don't mind Jericho winning. As someone else said earlier, at some point Jericho needs to get a win or else beating him doesn't mean anything.

Divas match stole the show at wrestlemania. Still feels surreal, but those are the facts. Flair's interference in the finish didn't bother me that much as it wasn't direct interference like in previous matches. Charlotte still made becky tap all on her own. I would have preferred a becky or sasha win here, but I'm okay with charlotte retaining. She's earned a long reign.

Ambrose vs Lesnar was fun, but it was really short. And I don't see the point in Lesnar winning at all. Especially since Lesnar was almost completely dominant in the build up. It does literally nothing for lesnar, when a win could have done worlds for dean. I actually think that given Dean used every weapon he could and Lesnar barely used any if at all, and then Dean got dropped by one f-5, he comes out looking weaker than when he went in. Granted, it was an f-5 on chairs but we're talking about a semi-main eventer who's whole tagline going into the event was that he was indestructible, and Lesnar couldn't keep him down no matter what he did.

New Day vs LON was just kinda there for me. Some cool spots. Like everyone else though, I couldn't care less about LON so it kind of hindered my enjoyment. Marked out for the new day entrance though. Legends kicking ass was cool.

HIAC match was a decent spotfest. Obviously, shane diving off was insane. Not much else to say about it.

Corbin winning the battle royale was cool.

HHH match was okay I guess. HHH entrance was great, but steph's monologue reeked of trying desperately to get some last minute heat. Good lord was she looking hot though. Also found it funny that the only time Reigns got a pop was when he speared steph. Guess to get reigns over he's just got to beat on some women.

So yeah, enjoyed it, but I definitely enjoyed Takeover more.

BigCrippyZ

04-04-2016, 02:36 AM

Nobody said that any of them need to be main eventers, but it's the same reminder every single time, that todays superstars are inferior to those of the past. None of them will ever really achieve anything if they're constantly bitched out to old, out-of-shape fat guys (and HBK).

I don't have as much of an issue with the Austin/HBK/Foley bit because I don't think the LON guys are or ever will be on the same level as Austin/HBK/Foley.

To me, Rock (and I'm not sure if it's his decision or Vince's necessarily) never really works long term with young guys to put them over anymore. If Rock or Vince think that just being in a segment with him is enough to get that person over, they're mistaken. If he comes back and does what he did tonight with someone like Bray, and it leads to something more substantial, like Bray going over Rock in a match, that'd be a different story, obviously.

Rammsteinmad

04-04-2016, 02:39 AM

In the case of the legends stuff, even if you take away the context of "putting guys over" etc, it's just boring as hell coz it's the same thing every time. The last two Rock appearances you had the New Day and the Wyatts come out respectively, and both times I'm just rolling my eyes coz I know what's coming and how it'll go down.

My God how much I would freak out with excitement if the Wyatt's didn't take kindly to Rock's words and gave him a beat down. Would it be a great, happy, feel-good Wrestlemania moment? Probably not. But fuck me it would be totally out of the box and would get me interested because it's something unexpected.

Rammsteinmad

04-04-2016, 02:42 AM

I don't have as much of an issue with the Austin/HBK/Foley bit because I don't think the LON guys are or ever will be on the same level as Austin/HBK/Foley.

To me, Rock (and I'm not sure if it's his decision or Vince's necessarily) never really works long term with young guys to put them over anymore. If Rock or Vince think that just being in a segment with him is enough to get that person over, they're mistaken. If he comes back and does what he did tonight with someone like Bray, and it leads to something more substantial, like Bray going over Rock in a match, that'd be a different story, obviously.

Absolutely! Bray wouldn't even need to win the match! The program itself will give him exposure and hopefully elevate him.

BigCrippyZ

04-04-2016, 02:43 AM

If the intent was to get Ambrose over, I don't mind Lesnar winning that match, but it never really feel like Ambrose was a true threat to Lesnar, ala Taker, Reigns, Cena, HHH, etc. I left the match kinda feeling like there was no point to it. The match wasn't good enough to just have it as an entertaining WM one-off, nor was it good enough to really put Ambrose over as a legit bad ass threat.

Fignuts

04-04-2016, 02:48 AM

On the Wyatts and Rock Cena confrontation, I'm kind of with wwf fan on this.

I see where Heyman is coming from, and agree that getting one upped by a major star in a confrontation can actually help a great deal. That said, there is a difference between getting one upped and being made to look like a bunch of harmless buffoons, and that's exactly what happened to the wyatts tonight. They didn't even get a shot in on the rock before cena came down and they cleared house.

Everyone keeps saying "don't worry this will actually help the wyatts in the long run" years now, the defenders of the wyatts booking have been saying thiis. Literally years. My question now is "when?". Every time this happens, the wyatts get less and less intimidating. Now we're at the point where they aren't intimidating at all. They're a punchline. There are wyatt booking flowcharts out there. It's just sad, because there is no reason why Bray Wyatt shouldn't be the strongest heel in the company right now. More so than even Brock Lesnar.

BigCrippyZ

04-04-2016, 02:49 AM

Absolutely! Bray wouldn't even need to win the match! The program itself will give him exposure and hopefully elevate him.

If Bray had come out tonight and beat down Rock during his segment and then that led to a feud/match down the line where Rock went over after a hard fought match, or vice versa, that would be/would've been great.

Judging by the past, I don't think and have never heard or got the impression that The Rock has a problem putting young guys over either. I honestly think it's more Rock doing what Vince/creative wants him to do and as long as it's not something ridiculous and he's getting paid and contributing, he just does his job.

Fignuts

04-04-2016, 02:58 AM

Don't know why everyone is assuming Ryder will lose the title tomorrow.

Guy is a good worker, can talk, and is still pretty damn over with the crowd. See no reason why he can't hold it for at least a couple months.

slik

04-04-2016, 03:06 AM

Finally back @ hotel...

Shuttle service so unorganized, met some other people from my hotel and paid an uber driver under the table 50 bucks to take us back (it would have been twice that otherwise).

Lock Jaw

04-04-2016, 03:29 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When I was a kid I held <a href="https://twitter.com/SCOTTHALLNWO">@SCOTTHALLNWO</a>'s Intercontinental title. Tonight at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WrestleMania?src=hash">#WrestleMania</a>, he held MY IC title! <a href="https://t.co/f0Jjm23CAg">pic.twitter.com/f0Jjm23CAg</a></p>— Zack Daddy (@ZackRyder) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZackRyder/status/716819389119463428">April 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Guy must be "on cloud nine"....

Heisenberg

04-04-2016, 03:50 AM

Holy fuck that was great live, I smell like beer and going to bed. Piss

Heisenberg

04-04-2016, 03:53 AM

We took a picture, I was piss drunk, but a picture was taken

http://i.imgur.com/ZLmUjXG.jpg

slik

04-04-2016, 04:39 AM

u were a good host CHAMPION

RDD will be pleased with this photo #CouldntRuinTheSurpriseRDD

Disturbed316

04-04-2016, 04:42 AM

So far watched up to Ambrose/Lesnar, nothing has wowed me so far other than the awful decision to give the title to Ryder. A jobber for three years and all of a sudden he's won? Fuck off with that.

slik

04-04-2016, 04:42 AM

Greatest entrance ever!!

Best entrance of the night! Blew Taker's away.

04-04-2016, 05:22 AM

We took a picture, I was piss drunk, but a picture was taken

http://i.imgur.com/ZLmUjXG.jpg

Bet Heisenberg lost his shizzle when Tatanka came out for the Battle Royal.

BigCrippyZ

04-04-2016, 05:23 AM

On a completely unrelated note, I would let Stephanie McMahon completely ruin my life if it meant I could fuck her. Like kill my wife, burn down my house, type of shit, whatever she wanted.

Rammsteinmad

04-04-2016, 05:25 AM

So far watched up to Ambrose/Lesnar, nothing has wowed me so far other than the awful decision to give the title to Ryder. A jobber for three years and all of a sudden he's won? Fuck off with that.

I suppose it does reinforce the idea that anything can happen. It's like when the crowd went batshit crazy at the idea that Santino Marella might actually win the Royal Rumble.

What bothers me with Ryder's win is that I have no trust in the WWE that this will actually go anywhere.

BigCrippyZ

04-04-2016, 05:29 AM

What bothers me with Ryder's win is that I have no trust in the WWE that this will actually go anywhere.

Very true. This and the fact that, despite that I haven't watched any Raw/SD/PPVs since after last years Mania @ 31, I still followed the results and, until a few weeks ago hadn't heard of Ryder getting any kind of push at all that would make him "worthy" of the IC title.

BigCrippyZ

04-04-2016, 05:46 AM

:lol: Holy shit, on second viewing, they really cut/lowered the audio (especially the crowd mics but also the commentary mics) during Reign's entrance and even more so immediately after his victory. Such a significant drop I wasn't even really paying attention to it and I thought there was something wrong with my television.

Rammsteinmad

04-04-2016, 05:48 AM

Yep. I can't wait for replays where the crowd are going batshit crazy over Reigns' victory.

Hanso Amore

04-04-2016, 06:19 AM

It's a good thing HBK was randomly in his gear in case anyone threw out a challenge to any three people.

Thank god Cena saved the rock from being stared at. They had him surrounded on all sides except the one he could run away by.

Dark One

04-04-2016, 06:22 AM

This show was indicative of the problems that have been going on for the past year.

Solid if unspectacular ring work marred by batshit crazy booking. No idea what they were thinking in all but like two of the matches. Here's to hoping the real show, the Raw after Mania gives me a reason to care.

Match of the night goes to the crowd chanting for Nakamura during the main event.

Sting Fan

04-04-2016, 06:38 AM

I paid for my first PPV in... well I dont know tbh, over 5 years. I am probably as casual as a casual fan gets now and my thoughts below...

- Loved the Ladder Match and really enjoyed Zach Ryder winning not really a fan of his specifically but it just felt like a good way to kick the show off. For some reason my PPV started here.

- I dont understand why Styles lost. I get that Jericho loses a lot at Mania but it just felt a bit silly for Styles to lose first up at Mania to a part time guy. I hope he goes onto something fast paced in ring wise now, maybe get him into one of the secondary title pictures.

- Ambrose vs. Lesnar was good but I cant help feel a trick was missed there. I was hoping Ambrose would either get the win or push Lesnar even further, beg for more of a beating and maybe end with Lesnar helping him up or something. Imagine Lesnar being so impressed by the crazy bastard he helped him up after all that. It almost feels like Shane O Mac got the story Ambrose should have. It feels like Taker and Shane used the storyline that could have really given Ambrose a longterm rub.

- Womens Championship, Best womens match I have ever seen. I havent watched a WWE womens match in years but if thats the standard now I am very impressed. I dont know why but I wanted Sasha to win, maybe it was the Eddie connection.

- Shane vs. Taker... I was underwhelmed. Maybe I missed something as an ex WCW mark who missed the Shane O Mac days. I was excited for him but the match just didnt do it for me.

- Good to see Cena, Is the Cena Sucks stuff on the level of Angles "You suck" chants now? Because the pop for him says people wanted to see him.

- Main Event... They got Reigns his pop, kudos WWE. I had my doubts in the few Raws I saw leading up and even during his intro, but they got him his win pop. One moan I do have is while HHH is trying to get over as a Heel (is he?) he needs to do away with the over the top entrances. Reigns while having an abundance of pyro felt very plain by comparison.

I enjoyed the show, I will probably buy again next year. Reading peoples take on the event I have to say I just dont agree with many of the complaints while I do have issue with some bits. Maybe its because I dont watch week in week out anymore so im less invested.

Fignuts

04-04-2016, 06:54 AM

Sting Fan

04-04-2016, 06:57 AM

A lot of people have warmed up to Cena due to his excellent in ring work, and occasional spine tingling serious business cena promo.

I'd wager a large portion of the "cena sucks" chanters are only doing it because it's fun. I would, and I'm a big fan.

I'm a fan as well, have been most of the way along. Even got me banned for a while ha ha. The fact that the guy seems to be a genuine class act of a person helps I think.

Volare

04-04-2016, 07:34 AM

#BROKEN Hasney

04-04-2016, 08:01 AM

Ended up watching it at a bar and the last thing I remember was Shanes spot. It was a fun Mania in the moment, but have no idea why they put the best two matches on first.

Jari

04-04-2016, 08:12 AM

I woke up thinking that was bad but Raw could be good.

I think I have Stockholm Syndrome with this company.

#BROKEN Hasney

04-04-2016, 08:45 AM

Oh, Tatanka was really there. I thought I drunkly imagined that.

Shisen Kopf

04-04-2016, 08:52 AM

3.5/7 AT BEST.

James Steele

04-04-2016, 09:34 AM

Watching Triple H's entrance again this morning gave me a massive boner. Hard time getting my pants on.

#BROKEN Hasney

04-04-2016, 09:44 AM

I didn't remember Rock had a flamethrower. He should have come out with Chynas entrance gimmick, that was more awesome.

Hanso Amore

04-04-2016, 10:13 AM

About Cena....I think everyone who "hates" him is just tired of the status quo...but then when he is out and they put out this shit, people realize having Cena around isn't so bad.

Hanso Amore

04-04-2016, 10:14 AM

If tonight's raw is amazing and shakes things up big time, it begs the question, why is raw the defining show of the year and not the granddaddy of them all

Fignuts

04-04-2016, 10:25 AM

Well the way I see it is that while there may be some surprises that start something new at mania, for the most part it's the culmination of all the current angles.

The raw afterwards is about setting tne new status quo with fresh new angles and junk.

Frank Drebin

04-04-2016, 10:29 AM

If tonight's raw is amazing and shakes things up big time, it begs the question, why is raw the defining show of the year and not the granddaddy of them all

Just goes back to the age old question: Have the "good stuff" on the PPV or on the Raws to get people to watch the PPV?

No idea what the current business model is now that the Network has taken over traditional PPV "buys" but the main question still exists and can't be definitively answered.

#BROKEN Hasney

04-04-2016, 10:43 AM

So skipped through extended highlights to refresh my memory. Overall, not a great Mania, but I'd rank it higher than 27-31 for the show as a whole. The main event, bar HHH's entrance, was worse than all of those though. Wow.

Evil Vito

04-04-2016, 10:58 AM

I admittedly didn't watch the whole show but just from what I saw and checking the highlights I'd say this was the worst Mania since 27. Some good matches with really questionable booking and even when I was casually checking in I barely felt interested..

28 had two really good matches in Punk/Jericho and Cena/Rock with logical outcomes based on where the build was going, and Taker/HHH in HIAC made for a nice spectacle.

29 is always going to be tough for me to judge fairly because I was there and that automatically makes the entire show more enjoyable. But Punk/Taker was excellent and Rock/Cena was still a good match.

30 was just a fantastic show all around with a hot opener, one of the best battle royals I can remember, the biggest shock ending ever in Taker/Lesnar, and a hot main event that led to a bona fide Mania fairy tale ending.

31 far exceeded expectations, just about everything was good and Lesnar/Reigns had a far, far better match than I ever thought possible given how terrible the buildup to the event was.

So yeah, worst Mania since 27 sounds about right in my books. This show was still clearly better than that one.

Mercenary

04-04-2016, 11:50 AM

So yeah, worst Mania since 27 sounds about right in my books. This show was still clearly better than that one.

When the main event gets the reaction from the fans that Lawler vs Cole got. that being a dead one. It puts 27 above 32 as far as being better

#BROKEN Hasney

04-04-2016, 11:56 AM

Eh, I still say as a whole show, it was the second best WM since 25 behind 30. Think everything at least lived up to expectations, bat the main event which managed to limbo under that low bar.

Damian Rey 2.0

04-04-2016, 12:01 PM

I don't think the crowd was dead. I think they shut off the mics once Reigns won. The "pop" he got after the 3 count came out of nowhere and after that everything but his music sounded muffled.

I'm convinced they tried to mute\drown out the booing

The CyNick

04-04-2016, 12:11 PM

I admittedly didn't watch the whole show but ... I'd say this was the worst Mania since 27.

Amazing.

road doggy dogg

04-04-2016, 12:14 PM

The more I think about it, the more I really kind of wish Mark Henry won the Andre thing. Would have been good for a guy who has been pretty directionless, at his last Mania, then he could come out tomorrow on Raw and retire if he wanted to or w/e... nice "parting gift" for him, in his home state and all that stuff.

As much as I think it's great that Corbin got the win, I don't trust that they'll actually do anything with him? idk. Is he even being called up full-time to the roster?

Maluco

04-04-2016, 12:17 PM

It was acceptable enough, I don't think it felt special and I think the main events were lacking, but the undercard was a decent mixture of good matches and fun moments.

All in all, an OK Mania, but I was exhausted after watching it. It is way too long nowadays and I think the crowd was tired by the end too.

It is way too early for Reigns to be a multitime world champ main eventing Mania and the crowd let them know it. Just nowhere near ready.

Am in the Austin camp that he needs a heel run to find his personality and grow as a character, and with potential feuds this year with Ambrose, Cena, Lesnar, Orton, Rollins at least, now is as good a time as any to do it.

Sad to see folk in this thread dismiss the guys in LoN. Sheamus and Del Rio are guys you can rotate at the top of the card with no problem and I honestly believe that Rusev can be great. He has personality, charisma, is great in the ring and can be very funny when he wants to be.

LoN is destroying them and is the worst stable since the DOA/Los Bariquas days, and I hope last night was their comeuppance and dismissal. We could use those 3 back as singles guys if Barrett is gone.

Mr. Pierre

04-04-2016, 12:28 PM

Loved the show overall

Watching the main event was like watching a ship sink. Live crowd was just tired, angry, and awaiting the inevitable.

Only other gripe was that Shane was given Dean's story. They toned down the violence and cut time from the Street Fight to treat it as a "pre-show" to HIAC. Understood why it happened, but Lesnar/Ambrose could have stolen the show if WWE allowed it to. The "bring it on" spots and post-match standing ovation belonged to Dean, but it just didn't happen.

Ladder match was sick - Ryder wtf, but unreal spotfest with fresh things

Styles/Jericho were both great - have no problem with Y2J winning - awesome near falls

New Day/LON was fun, good card placement - loved the post-match stuff

Ambrose/Lesnar was about half as good as it could have been - very obvious WWE handcuffed these two - still a fun watch

Women killed it - amazing match and a great showing for everyone

HIAC was unique and fun - this felt like a match you wouldn't see anywhere else except WrestleMania - had a blast enjoying it in the crowd

Andre was very cool with Shaq, and glad Corbin won. Thought Joe would get the call up and victory, but this works as well.

Rock/Cena stuff was very fun

Main event was just wow. Boo

Evil Vito

04-04-2016, 12:37 PM

Amazing.

I watched the first hour and a half, only saw bits of the next few, and was pretty much back within the first few minutes of Shane/Taker. So I still saw most of the show and it barely held my interest. I DO want to go back and watch the whole women's match since the bits I saw of it seemed good but I sincerely doubt that one match is going to change my perception of the entire PPV.

If the biggest show of the year can't hold the interest of someone who's watched wrestling for 15 years, it's a pretty good sign that that viewer (aka me) would find the show to be fucking terrible. I only kept with it until the end out of pure train wreck factor.

Simple Fan

04-04-2016, 01:26 PM

Don't know if it was Joe bleeding on NXT Takeover or what but I really wanted some blood. Either in the Ambrose/Lesnar match or Shane /Taker. Taker even promised blood. Felt that Lesner/Ambrose was way to short and Ambrose didnt really gain anything from that match. Felt he put up a better fight in the build than he did for the match.

The CyNick

04-04-2016, 01:37 PM

I watched the first hour and a half, only saw bits of the next few, and was pretty much back within the first few minutes of Shane/Taker. So I still saw most of the show and it barely held my interest. I DO want to go back and watch the whole women's match since the bits I saw of it seemed good but I sincerely doubt that one match is going to change my perception of the entire PPV.

If the biggest show of the year can't hold the interest of someone who's watched wrestling for 15 years, it's a pretty good sign that that viewer (aka me) would find the show to be fucking terrible. I only kept with it until the end out of pure train wreck factor.
Good for you. We appreciate your business.

Heyman

04-04-2016, 01:48 PM

I'd wager a large portion of the "cena sucks" chanters are only doing it because it's fun. I would, and I'm a big fan.

Agreed.

It's the way things seem to be these days (i.e. fans deliberately trolling whoever they perceive the "machine" to be behind).

Evil Vito

04-04-2016, 01:50 PM

Good for you. We appreciate your business.

How does Vince's jizz taste?

Sepholio

04-04-2016, 01:54 PM

Wyatt/Strowman over Cena/Rock at SummerSlam

Heyman

04-04-2016, 01:58 PM

If the WWE get behind Ryder this year (or if Ryder continues to prove himself behind the scenes, in the ring, whatever), I'm wondering if the WWE can somehow push/position Ryder as the equivalent of "Rudy." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_(film).

Could be a good success story and given what we saw with Daniel Bryan, the WWE fans love an underdog.

jbizness

04-04-2016, 02:00 PM

All I can see here is a bunch of pussies in need of a tampon change. It was WrestleMania, it was great. Get over yourselves.

Evil Vito

04-04-2016, 02:05 PM

http://giant.gfycat.com/CautiousCookedFulmar.gif

Innovator

04-04-2016, 02:06 PM

http://i.imgur.com/6g1pgGk.jpg

Sepholio

04-04-2016, 02:07 PM

Evil Vito

04-04-2016, 02:16 PM

http://i.imgur.com/6g1pgGk.jpg

In true WWE irony, every single word of Steph's promo wound up being true both in and out of the ring.

Evil Vito

04-04-2016, 02:17 PM

Feels like the show was a 7-hour exercise in producing a 2-minute highlight reel of "WrestleMania Moments"

Innovator

04-04-2016, 02:28 PM

They really need to censor themselves. No real reason for a 7 hour show

Fignuts

04-04-2016, 02:58 PM

Agreed.

It's the way things seem to be these days (i.e. fans deliberately trolling whoever they perceive the "machine" to be behind).

I wouldn't put the Cena sucks chants in that camp. They are more like the "you suck" chants angle used to get, in that it's a weird pro wrestling fan appreciation, than the genuine dislike Roman gets. Though I don't doubt there are a lot more cena sucks chanters that actually believe it, than in angle's case.

Swiss Ultimate

04-04-2016, 03:01 PM

I wouldn't put the Cena sucks chants in that camp. They are more like the "you suck" chants angle used to get, in that it's a weird pro wrestling fan appreciation, than the genuine dislike Roman gets. Though I don't doubt there are a lot more cena sucks chanters that actually believe it, than in angle's case.

The only chants that matter are ones with my name in it. You'd know that if you weren't in the tank for Hillary/McMahon. Everybody sees it but you.

Emperor Smeat

04-04-2016, 04:38 PM

Maybe slik, STD, or H'berg can confirm it but supposedly the WWE was putting crowd cues on the Jerrytron to get the crowd to chant stuff during matches. Been reading both the New Day match and Women's title match had ques being shown on the big screen.

Hall of Fame show also supposedly had crowd cues being done although by production crew holding up signs near the crowd.

#BROKEN Hasney

04-04-2016, 05:32 PM

Went back and watched the pre show matches. Kalisto/Ryback was much better than it had any right to be.

Shadrick

04-04-2016, 06:40 PM

About Cena....I think everyone who "hates" him is just tired of the status quo...but then when he is out and they put out this shit, people realize having Cena around isn't so bad.

probably the best post ive seen on here in a while

Shadrick

04-04-2016, 06:40 PM

Amazing.

are you saying that it's "amazing" that he has an opinion on a show he didn't even see all of?

Shadrick

04-04-2016, 06:42 PM

All I can see here is a bunch of pussies in need of a tampon change. It was WrestleMania, it was great. Get over yourselves.

im with you man, fuck is wrong with them voicing their opinions and such

Shadrick

04-04-2016, 06:43 PM

I think Ryder is honestly being rewarded for the fact that he works more matches than anyone else in the company if you include house shows. Maybe they are thinking about how he is always over with the crowd, works an insane schedule, never gets hurt and they realize they kind of NEED him on TV right now.

lets hope.

honestly, i think they may be looking at his likability. its similar to daniel bryan. they didnt do shit with daniel and he was still consistently over with crowds. maybe now they realize they should capitalize.

ClockShot

04-04-2016, 06:53 PM

I've been buzzing through the thread here and reading results. And judging from what I'm reading, I guess it wasn't the best WrestleMania.

Just a few thoughts I got:

Unless it further gets addressed tonight, Shane McMahon's return looks like it was for nothing. Sure he took some bumps and put up a fight. But the match didn't really do anything for either man. Would have thought for sure this was it for the Undertaker and Shane taking over Raw was going to bring us new places and potentially end the Authority storyline. Conflicted when Shane came back, still conflicted about it now.

Would have liked for Ambrose to go over Lesnar. He had it all going for him. Fans love him to death, had the "blessings" of Terry Funk & Mick Foley, great gimmick to boot. Would have done wonders if the "upstart crazy guy" took down The Beast. Could have been an instant threat to Reigns for the Title and make Ambrose be the "Man who took down Brock Lesnar clean" man we've been waiting for.

Styles vs. Jericho. I'm probably in the boat with the majority asking the question as to why Jericho went over here. My script said Styles wins, feud over, both men move on. But I guess Creative is gonna stretch this out for one more PPV and then finally end it.......thankfully. It's getting tiresome.

Divas/Women's title. Charlotte wins. I honestly thought this had Sasha Banks' big moment written all over it. Curious as to what happens tonight on Raw. I honestly think Daddy Ric needs to walk away from this and let her stand on her own.

IC title ladder match. Yeah.......call up the Scooby Gang for this mystery. Zack Ryder winning. Who knew? Seriously, who knew?

Roman Reigns wins, as predicted. There was no 11th hour change. The MITB was already used. There was no other way out. And I guess it wasn't that great of match either. This is what Vince is running with. This is what he wants. Whatever happens, happens.

Black Widow

04-04-2016, 07:05 PM

Sucked!

I liked the ladder match, Triple threat,Lana's outfit.

DAMN iNATOR

04-04-2016, 08:11 PM

road doggy dogg

04-04-2016, 08:15 PM

30 minutes of listening to some nerds talk rasslin........... nope

Ol Dirty Dastard

04-04-2016, 08:16 PM

30 minutes of listening to some nerds talk rasslin........... nope

.... isn't this website us nerds talking rasslin?

The CyNick

04-04-2016, 08:24 PM

1.8 million!

Fignuts

04-04-2016, 08:44 PM

.... isn't this website us nerds talking rasslin?

Remove the chain

Cause you're off it.

Evil Vito

04-04-2016, 08:44 PM

1.8 million!

Answer my question please.

How does Vince's jizz taste?

DAMN iNATOR

04-04-2016, 08:45 PM

30 minutes of listening to some nerds talk rasslin........... nope

That's Brian Zane, a.k.a. "Wrestling With Wregret" on YT. He's actually a quite well-respected guy when it comes to critiquing wrestling events and in his other videos where he talks about whatever's on his mind. I actually sat through it just now and pretty much agree with his "C-" grade. Should really give him a chance.

Loose Cannon

04-04-2016, 08:52 PM

I thought the under card was really good, but I wasn't really invested in the HHH/Reigns storyline to really care about the match. And i love Shane, but I've seen that match about 5 times from him. I get it . This Mania just didn't have that one big match for me.

I've always been a big fan of a storyline build and to me you can have a mediocre match, but if the build is great, that can always carry a match if you're audience is emotionally invested in the characters. I just haven't cared for the Roman Reigns character at all. It's Daniel Bryan's storyline but just a lot more dull.

Some positives were women's wrestling is pretty awesome right now. They pushed Corban. Styles finally got to wrestle on a Mania and the mid card has a lot going for it. They just need to figure out the main event .