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Nicky Fives
01-28-2018, 10:57 PM
Trish looking great in that gear.....

slik
01-28-2018, 10:58 PM
Trish is a great choice for #30

RP
01-28-2018, 10:58 PM
hahaha everyone thought it was Rousey

Gerard
01-28-2018, 10:58 PM
Nia jax has vanished...again. Must have had 2 mins ring time at this point

Evil Vito
01-28-2018, 10:58 PM
TRISH AND MICKIE STAREDOWN

LICK YOUR HAND MICKIE

Nicky Fives
01-28-2018, 10:59 PM
V LICK!

#1-norm-fan
01-28-2018, 10:59 PM
If Asuka doesn't win, let Trish have it. Get the WrestleMania "over part-timer" thing going with the women.

Gerard
01-28-2018, 11:00 PM
Could Nia get any less flattering ring gear?

Ruien
01-28-2018, 11:00 PM
Steph is terrible on commentary.

Ruien
01-28-2018, 11:00 PM
Lol at the needing more twins comment.

Emperor Smeat
01-28-2018, 11:01 PM
:lol: crowd booing that Nia got eliminated

#1-norm-fan
01-28-2018, 11:01 PM
Sasha back outside. lol

Gerard
01-28-2018, 11:01 PM
"Sasha has been in this match 51 minutes"

Yeah, about 45 of them outside the ring sucking wind.

Evil Vito
01-28-2018, 11:01 PM
Asuka feels like the only plausible winner at this point. Then again I thought she was the only plausible winner anyway as long as Ronda or Steph weren't gonna be in.

slik
01-28-2018, 11:01 PM
Final six, let's go Asuka!

Locke
01-28-2018, 11:02 PM
Here we go nicky

owenbrown
01-28-2018, 11:03 PM
Sasha gonna be booed outta the building

Emperor Smeat
01-28-2018, 11:03 PM
:| the Bellas are 50% of the Final 4

owenbrown
01-28-2018, 11:03 PM
Asuka and Sasha gonna eliminate Nikki and Brie?

Locke
01-28-2018, 11:03 PM
FYI, anyone who is a repper in the Casual Royal Rumble game needs to go to that thread and make all their reps

Gerard
01-28-2018, 11:04 PM
:| the Bellas are 50% of the Final 4

That's what happens when you date big match John and marry taker.

slik
01-28-2018, 11:04 PM
I kind of want to see Sasha vs Trish Stratus now at WrestleMania...

rez
01-28-2018, 11:04 PM
yesss bye bye sasha

KIRA
01-28-2018, 11:05 PM
Asukas gonna take this thing

Emperor Smeat
01-28-2018, 11:05 PM
Bellas have been like Cena/Reigns level of terrible for the Women's division.

Evil Vito
01-28-2018, 11:05 PM
It coming down to Asuka vs. the Bellas is just the female equivalent of the male Rumble coming down to Shinsuke vs. Cena and Reigns.

Ruien
01-28-2018, 11:05 PM
I miss looking at Sasha already.

Gerard
01-28-2018, 11:06 PM
I miss looking at Sasha already.

Well, when she was in you didn't see much of her considering she spent most of her time on the floor.

KIRA
01-28-2018, 11:06 PM
NO Alicia.......SON OF A FUCKING BITCH

Gerard
01-28-2018, 11:07 PM
Quality commentating byron, 2 left in the ring and he says "its definitely gonna be nikki or asuka". :wtf:

rez
01-28-2018, 11:08 PM
go after charlotte!

KIRA
01-28-2018, 11:09 PM
i will kill a man if Asuka goes down to the likes of Nikki

#1-norm-fan
01-28-2018, 11:09 PM
They really shouldn't drag out this finish for too long. lol

Emperor Smeat
01-28-2018, 11:09 PM
For someone with bad neck problems, dragging Nikki neck first outside seems like a really bad idea

Also somewhat flat ending to the Women's Rumble

owenbrown
01-28-2018, 11:09 PM
FUCK YES!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

Gerard
01-28-2018, 11:10 PM
Coles tongue couldn't be any further up Stephanie's arse.

slik
01-28-2018, 11:10 PM
The right two people won the Royal Rumble matches tonight

Nicky Fives
01-28-2018, 11:10 PM
Women's Rumble was better than I was expecting, but no way it should have been the main event.

owenbrown
01-28-2018, 11:10 PM
https://i1.wp.com/www.diva-dirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/asuka-battle-royal.gif?resize=620%2C349

KIRA
01-28-2018, 11:10 PM
'Wheres Black Widow so she can be mad that the Rumble's biggiest winners are Japanese

Nicky Fives
01-28-2018, 11:10 PM
Coles tongue couldn't be any further up Stephanie's arse.

I could think of far worse places.....

Evil Vito
01-28-2018, 11:11 PM
lol they totally pulled an AJ Styles with the camera work on Rousey's arrival

KIRA
01-28-2018, 11:11 PM
https://i1.wp.com/www.diva-dirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/asuka-battle-royal.gif?resize=620%2C349

Seconded

Nicky Fives
01-28-2018, 11:11 PM
RONDA!!!

owenbrown
01-28-2018, 11:11 PM
You're a little late there, Ronda :shifty:

slik
01-28-2018, 11:12 PM
At least Ronda wasn't in the match

Gerard
01-28-2018, 11:12 PM
Love how bliss is literally wearing fucking stilts to not look like such a midget.

Emperor Smeat
01-28-2018, 11:12 PM
Umm why are they having Ronda's debut completely upstage the Women's Rumble result.

Also legit hope she doesn't just challenge whoever Asuka didn't pick.

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:12 PM
Way to shit on asukas win and the entire rumble

#1-norm-fan
01-28-2018, 11:13 PM
ROUSEY!

DAMN iNATOR
01-28-2018, 11:13 PM
"Stephanie has no idea..."

Bullshit, Cole.

Evil Vito
01-28-2018, 11:13 PM
Bad Reputation, and the Piper get-up, is great, even if this is kind of pissing on the Royal Rumble concept.

Nicky Fives
01-28-2018, 11:13 PM
Ronda needs a leather jacket that fits.

Ruien
01-28-2018, 11:13 PM
LOL AT COLE.BURYING STEPH FOR NOT KNOWING WHAT IS GOING ON. ����������

KIRA
01-28-2018, 11:14 PM
WWE just might give me a match that will make Brock and Roman the last thing on my mind

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:14 PM
The most offensive thing ive seen since aquette

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:15 PM
Oh and they made it about stephanie too. Shocker

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:15 PM
Infuriating

Sepholio
01-28-2018, 11:16 PM
lolololololololololololol

ok I'm done now.

NOT LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Emperor Smeat
01-28-2018, 11:16 PM
This is really stupid for an ending. Nice that Ronda debuted but the timing is completely off.

Women's Rumble was nice overall as a match but had some questionable pacing and elimination choices.

KIRA
01-28-2018, 11:16 PM
Way to drag yourselves outta the spotlight WWE

oh yea asuka won.....BUT THERE'S RHONDA ROUSEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Evil Vito
01-28-2018, 11:16 PM
Asuka was the only plausible winner if Ronda wasn't gonna actually be in it. Predictable yes, but predictable =/= bad. Asuka was always going to be in one of the title matches at Mania, so her going over was the right call.

RP
01-28-2018, 11:17 PM
ya Steph had no clue. Had no clue that there was a entrance theme and titon tron video made for her either.

OssMan
01-28-2018, 11:17 PM
Roger Goodell should make a video announcing a new wrestling federation focused on providing "what the fans want" and "simpler rules"

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:17 PM
Legit angry

Evil Vito
01-28-2018, 11:17 PM
I did like Asuka slapping away Ronda's hand though. It was like her saying "you're taking away my moment, fuck you"

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:19 PM
Reupped the network for mania season today. May drop it after that.

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:19 PM
GONNA SLEEP ON IT

rockman725
01-28-2018, 11:19 PM
Kinda pointless there. Rumbles should have been reversed. Could have easily had Ronda on tomorrow night if that was all that was gonna happen. !@#$'n politics.

Sepholio
01-28-2018, 11:20 PM
We all know Asuka is challenging Alexa too considering Ronda looked directly at Charlotte and said "See you at WM"

So much for Cole's "What does this mean!?!?!?!" schtick.

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:20 PM
Kinda pointless there. Rumbles should have been reversed. Could have easily had Ronda on tomorrow night if that was all that was gonna happen. !@#$'n politics.

Putting the men on early was the right call. You couldnt ne certain the crowd would recover for a second one. It wasnt a good thing they sent the girls out last.

Evil Vito
01-28-2018, 11:20 PM
Vince backstage when booking this show: "THEY WANT NEW JAPAN, I'LL GIVE THEM A NEWER JAPAN DAMMIT"

Ol Dirty Dastard
01-28-2018, 11:23 PM
the right crowd for Asuka and Shinsuke to win. I didn't think the women's rumble was bad. Was pleasantly surprised.

Thought Rousey stuff was a bit flat though. Crowd liked her well enough but meh

Sepholio
01-28-2018, 11:23 PM
They need to combine the Rumble with War Games next year and have both Rumbles occurring simultaneously! :shifty:

Emperor Smeat
01-28-2018, 11:24 PM
Guess on the bright side, ESPN is reporting Ronda signed a full-time deal with the WWE and likely isn't just showing up for a one-off at Mania like Taker or barely be around like Lesnar.

Still should have just held off till Monday for her debut if she wasn't going to do anything at all at the Rumble.

Theo Dious
01-28-2018, 11:25 PM
Wrestling fans are the worst part of wrestling.

#1-norm-fan
01-28-2018, 11:26 PM
Legit angry

About Asuka getting her moment taken away? Oh. She doesn't matter. ;)

Ol Dirty Dastard
01-28-2018, 11:27 PM
Wrestling fans are the worst part of wrestling.

Yeah, you do make wrestling pretty shitty.

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:27 PM
About Asuka getting her moment taken away? Oh. She doesn't matter. ;)

Youre absolutely right about that, and you cant argue any different.

DAMN iNATOR
01-28-2018, 11:27 PM
Wrestling fans are the worst part of wrestling.

Thanks for your #hottake.

#1-norm-fan
01-28-2018, 11:28 PM
Youre absolutely right, about that, and you cant argue any different.

Cool. So, not mad anymore then? I'm glad I helped.

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:28 PM
Following that logic rousey challenges on raw for the exposure, asuka off to SDL.

Match wise its for the best probably.

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:29 PM
Cool. So, not mad anymore then? I'm glad I helped.

Honestly, yeah.

Evil Vito
01-28-2018, 11:29 PM
Could see Ronda and Asuka both having undefeated streaks going into WM35 where they finally meet up

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:30 PM
Shoulda put rousey in and let her go over. Woulda been more logical. But fan has a good point. Asuka is nothing. Rousey is money.

Ol Dirty Dastard
01-28-2018, 11:31 PM
i thought rousey "wasn't money", destor. you spent a whole thread talking about how she's a lame duck now.

DAMN iNATOR
01-28-2018, 11:31 PM
Putting the men on early was the right call. You couldnt ne certain the crowd would recover for a second one. It wasnt a good thing they sent the girls out last.

Putting the women's rumble in the main event spot was absolutely the right call. You don't send a crowd like that home with a shitty Universal Championship triple threat. That REALLY would've started some riots.

#1-norm-fan
01-28-2018, 11:32 PM
Asuka winning was the right call but if they didn't have Rousey come out to end the show, it would have felt like the middle of a Raw episode ending a major PPV.

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:32 PM
i thought rousey "wasn't money", destor. you spent a whole thread talking about how she's a lame duck now.

No no. I specifically said she would be money for one night

Savio
01-28-2018, 11:33 PM
Too much complaining... it was a fine show.

Triple A
01-28-2018, 11:36 PM
Yeah I liked the show overall and the order was good other than the Raw tag match.

slik
01-28-2018, 11:36 PM
Anyone else watching the special on the Network r/n...trying to figure out if Taker is retired or not

slik
01-28-2018, 11:36 PM
Too much complaining... it was a fine show.

Agreed. The Women exceeded my expectations.

Evil Vito
01-28-2018, 11:37 PM
Definitely think the women's Rumble will be an annual thing........but I will say two full fledged Rumbles makes for a long night.

Next year I'd make the women's Rumble a 20 person match since it's obvious they felt they needed half of the field to spend ages outside the ring.

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:40 PM
Doing a womens match annually is a challenge because there are so few viable participants

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:40 PM
You almost have to reduce the field otherwise you have the same match next year

#1-norm-fan
01-28-2018, 11:43 PM
Not gonna lie, even as I kinda marked out for Rousey, a small part of me was saying "No, outsider. You don't get to point to the WrestleMania sign. That's our thing. Stop that."

Sting Fan
01-28-2018, 11:44 PM
Probably covered earlier in the thread but man that Ziggler return was very flat... Felt like he missed a few spots and no one cared.

Emperor Smeat
01-28-2018, 11:47 PM
You almost have to reduce the field otherwise you have the same match next year

Could always switch things around with relying more on NXT for surprises and less on Legends. This year only had 2 from NXT and the rest being filled by Legends.

Originally it was rumored WWE was looking at just 3-4 for Legends and the rest from NXT for this year but ended up going with almost a third of the Rumble being Legends. I get why they did it because of the historical nature of this Rumble.

Evil Vito
01-28-2018, 11:48 PM
This behind the scenes thing for Mania is absolutely fantastic. Loved seeing how they snuck the Hardys in only an hour before they were going out for their match.

SlickyTrickyDamon
01-28-2018, 11:48 PM
Nobody was ready for Asuka

#1-norm-fan
01-28-2018, 11:51 PM
I am glad they didn't taint Asuka's streak by having Rousey enter and win though.

Just like how they have the ability to make a smark crowd feel like they've "won" by having Nakamura win because they're still gonna do the same matches they planned at the Rumble anyway, having 2 women's titles gives them the same luxury. Rousey winning would have fucked up Asuka's undefeated streak and turned people off while still having the same two women's titles matches the presumably have planned anyway.

Really makes the rumble matches feel pointless but... if you're gonna have a lame 2 title situation, they might as well take advantage of situations like this.

Destor
01-28-2018, 11:53 PM
Would asuak losing a battle royal hurt her streak?

#1-norm-fan
01-28-2018, 11:53 PM
Probably covered earlier in the thread but man that Ziggler return was very flat... Felt like he missed a few spots and no one cared.

Oh yeah. That was fucking silly. Guy drops the title and walks away from the company mysteriously only to return at the rumble for a couple minutes? What was the point of all this?

#1-norm-fan
01-28-2018, 11:55 PM
Would asuak losing a battle royal hurt her streak?

I mean... it would literally taint an "undefeated" streak. We can argue all day about the semantics of whether losing a Royal Rumble would "count" as a defeat or whatever. But why fuck with it at all when you don't have to?

Emperor Smeat
01-28-2018, 11:55 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The jacket Ronda Rousey is wearing at the <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> Royal Rumble was Rowdy Roddy Piper's jacket. His son gave it to her beforehand.</p>&mdash; Ramona Shelburne (@ramonashelburne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/957829079688011776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Frank Drebin
01-29-2018, 12:00 AM
Would asuak losing a battle royal hurt her streak?

Not to me, but some seem dead set that it would. Gonna reach for an analogy....you know those games on the Price is Right where they have a rolling cash prize rather than just a trip/car or whatever? Like, if the top prize is 100k and the contestant walks away with 50k are you supposed to call them a loser?

slik
01-29-2018, 12:04 AM
Taker/Roman up in the WM34 doc now

Frank Drebin
01-29-2018, 12:04 AM
Men's Rumble was great. Womens was...meh. Ronda was...awkward kinda. Rest of the card was too.

I was here for the Rumbles so I'd say solid show. Not that excited for WM season but I'll give it a shot.

Savio
01-29-2018, 12:05 AM
Would rather her first loss be in a 1-on-1 match and not a rumble.

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 12:08 AM
Oh I'm all in on Styles/Nakamura at Mania.

Decent chance that and Asuka's match are the only things I'm gonna pay any real attention to...but sadly enough that's already an improvement on last year's Mania where I went into it caring about one match.

Destor
01-29-2018, 12:09 AM
I enjoyed the womens rumble the most by far. Sascha is a real pro and Trish was aces.

slik
01-29-2018, 12:12 AM
Taker said he's content riding off in the sunset but will see what tomorrow brings on the WM33 doc on the network

Droford
01-29-2018, 12:16 AM
We are getting AJ/Nakamura vs KO/Sami at Fast lane I bet

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 12:18 AM
I could see there being three women's matches at Mania.

Asuka vs. Alexa
Charlotte and Becky vs. Rousey and Baszler
Bayley vs. heel Banks

But we'll see.

Destor
01-29-2018, 12:21 AM
Rousey v bliss -15 second squash via arm bar

Charlotte v asuka - asuka wins

Multi women match. Moolah battle royal. I dunno. Something that gets everyone on the card. Banks wins

#1-norm-fan
01-29-2018, 12:28 AM
Wait. Elimination Chamber is Raw this year?

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 12:32 AM
Wait. Elimination Chamber is Raw this year?


Yeah, the non-big 4 PPVs swapped brands from a year ago, which makes sense.

But for whatever reason they're not doing it this year as HIAC will be a SD show again.

#1-norm-fan
01-29-2018, 12:33 AM
Would rather her first loss be in a 1-on-1 match and not a rumble.

Actually, it's probably gonna happen in that Facebook tag tournament. Which would probably be more anti-climactic.

#1-norm-fan
01-29-2018, 12:36 AM
Yeah, the non-big 4 PPVs swapped brands from a year ago, which makes sense.

But for whatever reason they're not doing it this year as HIAC will be a SD show again.

Oh. Well that's one downside to Reigns not winning the Rumble. Elimination Chamber winner is pretty much a given.

Savio
01-29-2018, 12:43 AM
Wonder if the Chamber will be padded again.

Lock Jaw
01-29-2018, 12:48 AM
Enjoyed both Rumbles.

Only thing I really hated was how the women kept rolling out of the ring and chilling on the outside. I literally kept having to ask and wonder if people were still in the match or not. I don't know why they couldn't just book it like the men and just have them all laying around the mat in the ring. Part of a Rumble's charm is seeing the ring full of people.

Black Widow
01-29-2018, 12:54 AM
I just wanna see Sasha/Trish at WM.

#1-norm-fan
01-29-2018, 12:58 AM
Damn. Saw Black Widow posted and expected a wonderfully racist rant. What a disappointment.

BigCrippyZ
01-29-2018, 01:01 AM
Oh yeah. That was fucking silly. Guy drops the title and walks away from the company mysteriously only to return at the rumble for a couple minutes? What was the point of all this?

Come on now? They don't care, let alone, think that far ahead.

Let's be honest... Chris Kreski has been dead for years and was essentially mocked by Vince and co. Which is a damn shame. The guy was the best writer the WWE ever had.

Phenomenal 1
01-29-2018, 01:08 AM
Anyone able to PM me a link to a replay stream, I don't have the network or a CC that i can preview it with at the moment

Phenomenal 1
01-29-2018, 01:10 AM
Tried google and its just spam links that want your credit card and to sign up for fake services

Nicky Fives
01-29-2018, 01:12 AM
Rumbles were pretty good, Men's was pretty much what I expected, nice surprise with Rey & Hurricane and giving a couple NXT stars a chance to shine. Women's rumble was pretty good too, could have gone without all the stalling and resting at ringside though, it was hard to keep track of who was still around and not eliminated. Also would have had a bit bigger impact if most of the "surprises" had not appeared to Raw the previous Monday.....

Also wasn't a huge fan of women's rumble going on last, I get why they did it, but it seemed like it would have done better if it opened the show and benefited from a super hot crowd, no doubt in my mind the crowd would have been much hotter for the returns and Rousey's appearance afterwards.

Juan
01-29-2018, 01:13 AM
Thought the women’s Rumble was overall better than the men’s Rumble

Vastardikai
01-29-2018, 01:18 AM
The crowd I was with HATED the Men's Rumble. I am glad that Nakamura won, and the Heath Slater bit was awesome. You can tell they are trying to have Sheamus do as little as possible. I don't get the pancakes thing with the New Day.

The Women's Rumble had a lot of rolling out and what not, the Men's Rumble had a lot of guys laying in the ring and doing nothing, which pisses me off even more.

Tom Guycott
01-29-2018, 01:33 AM
bam bam bigelow tights for seth

It was literally the first thing I thought of. Like when you make a CAW and can put any pattern on anyone's gear.

Pretty cool Harlem Heat style gear by Rollins.

"Seth Rollins, we commin' for YOU, nigga!"

I wonder if he licensed the rights to wear the flames from Stevie Ray, or if he is going to face litigation and end up having to use the Leave It To Beaver theme for his entrance like Booker did.

Nicky Fives
01-29-2018, 03:09 AM
Ronda needs a leather jacket that fits.

I take this back, just read on Twitter that the jacket was "Rowdy" Roddy Piper's and was given to her to wear by his son. That's cool.

Fignuts
01-29-2018, 04:23 AM
Love Gertner in this thread acting like the person he loves most pushed him off a cliff and hes just screaming the whole way down, refusing to accept it.

DAMN iNATOR
01-29-2018, 04:24 AM
It was literally the first thing I thought of. Like when you make a CAW and can put any pattern on anyone's gear.



"Seth Rollins, we commin' for YOU, nigga!"

I wonder if he licensed the rights to wear the flames from Stevie Ray, or if he is going to face litigation and end up having to use the Leave It To Beaver theme for his entrance like Booker did.

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Fignuts
01-29-2018, 04:54 AM
I was one of Rey's biggest detractors towards the end of his WWE run. Looked a lot slower than he used to. Generally looked like he didn't care, and was just going through the motions, putting in formulaic matches.

He looked fucking amazing here. I mean, just looking at him, you could tell he was in amazing shape, but his speed was faster than I remember seeing him since early into his original WWE run.

Really hope this isn't a one off and he's back for good, because as great as he looked, there are some amazing dream matches we could get with the current roster.

Sting Fan
01-29-2018, 05:22 AM
I take this back, just read on Twitter that the jacket was "Rowdy" Roddy Piper's and was given to her to wear by his son. That's cool.

Whats the Rousey/Piper connection?

Sting Fan
01-29-2018, 05:30 AM
I also forgot to say earlier in the thread, how impressive is Ember Moon? Based on that little sample of work I am excited to see her on the main roster sometime soon.

Ol Dirty Dastard
01-29-2018, 07:39 AM
Whats the Rousey/Piper connection?

He was a big influence on her. It's why she goes by "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey. It helped her a lot when she broke into MMA as she adopted a heelish, outspoken persona a la Roddy Piper.

Obviously not as nuanced/charismatic as Piper, but in the MMA world if you add some theatrics to arm barring the shit out of people, it tends to draw.

IMO what also helped her draw is she had a distinct "finishing move"--in MMA it's almost impossible to have a lights out move, just by its nature. But her Armbar was the most feared move in the world at one point.

XL
01-29-2018, 07:42 AM
Could Nia get any less flattering ring gear?
Looks like a TellyTubby.
Guess on the bright side, ESPN is reporting Ronda signed a full-time deal with the WWE and likely isn't just showing up for a one-off at Mania like Taker or barely be around like Lesnar.

Still should have just held off till Monday for her debut if she wasn't going to do anything at all at the Rumble.
Nah. Her debut is on the homepage of the BBC website over here 8n the UK. If you want a bump to Raw viewership then they made the right choice.
Too much complaining... it was a fine show.
The Royal Grumble, amirite?
Could always switch things around with relying more on NXT for surprises and less on Legends. This year only had 2 from NXT and the rest being filled by Legends.

Originally it was rumored WWE was looking at just 3-4 for Legends and the rest from NXT for this year but ended up going with almost a third of the Rumble being Legends. I get why they did it because of the historical nature of this Rumble.
I think the Absolution/Riott Squad call up probably hurt them this year as it ransacked the NXT Roster. Next year they’ll have had chance to repopulate NXT and should have more to draw from. That said, surprised by no Iconic Duo.
Anyone able to PM me a link to a replay stream, I don't have the network or a CC that i can preview it with at the moment
Check your rep.
Whats the Rousey/Piper connection?
“Rowdy” Roddy Piper, “Rowdy” Ronda Rousey

erickman
01-29-2018, 08:03 AM
He was a big influence on her. It's why she goes by "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey. It helped her a lot when she broke into MMA as she adopted a heelish, outspoken persona a la Roddy Piper.

Obviously not as nuanced/charismatic as Piper, but in the MMA world if you add some theatrics to arm barring the shit out of people, it tends to draw.

IMO what also helped her draw is she had a distinct "finishing move"--in MMA it's almost impossible to have a lights out move, just by its nature. But her Armbar was the most feared move in the world at one point.

also she has judo june as her trainer he had La wrestling that piper wrestled for. I wonder how the wwe will use her piper thing, if we are stuck with a wrestlemania tag match with ronda steph and trips, I would like randy to tag with ronda. that would be an ode to piper cowboy bob.

Gerard
01-29-2018, 08:04 AM
Maybe next year they can reduce this women's "rumble" match to 20 participants and actually keep them in the fucking ring as opposed to people vanishing for upto 10 minutes only to reappear after they had taken their breather. Constantly wondering if "x" person was eliminated because of that shit was the running theme.

Blue Demon
01-29-2018, 08:07 AM
Won $270 in our Rumble lottery for Nakamura winning. Didn't do one for the Women's Rumble since we weren't sure who all was going to be in it. Maybe next year.

XL
01-29-2018, 08:13 AM
Maybe next year they can reduce this women's "rumble" match to 20 participants and actually keep them in the fucking ring as opposed to people vanishing for upto 10 minutes only to reappear after they had taken their breather. Constantly wondering if "x" person was eliminated because of that shit was the running theme.

Does the number of participants affect this? I figured they weren’t sure the women could work upwards of 30-40 minutes so structured the match as they did.

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 08:23 AM
Enjoyed both Rumbles.

Only thing I really hated was how the women kept rolling out of the ring and chilling on the outside. I literally kept having to ask and wonder if people were still in the match or not. I don't know why they couldn't just book it like the men and just have them all laying around the mat in the ring. Part of a Rumble's charm is seeing the ring full of people.

Agreed with that. I mean everyone takes a breather during the Rumble via chilling in the corner or under the ropes or whatever.....I don't think they needed to make it so obvious by having them all out on the floor.

Gerard
01-29-2018, 08:27 AM
Does the number of participants affect this? I figured they weren’t sure the women could work upwards of 30-40 minutes so structured the match as they did.

Numbers didn't no, but having to bring in a load of people who hadn't done anything in wwe in years to pad out the numbers was a dumb decision. Its ok doing fan service but there was a lot more than expected getting trotted out to this match. A 20 person battle royal would have been a better way to go imo, less part time brigade and more emphasis on the current roster.

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 08:33 AM
Given that they were trying to put over the "HISTORIC" aspect of the women's Rumble, having all of those returnees in there made sense to me, even if it was slightly underwhelming considering how many of them made cameos on Raw 25.

For future years though, it's gonna be tough to fill 30 spots I think.

#BROKEN Hasney
01-29-2018, 08:43 AM
A lot more fun than a lot of recent Rumbles. Not sure why they decided to do the weird awkward silent ending. But hey.

Big Vic
01-29-2018, 08:44 AM
Yeah should be 20 next year imo.

Ol Dirty Dastard
01-29-2018, 08:47 AM
From what I saw, I'd give the show an A. Esp for WWE standards.

In saying that, Steph was horrific on commentary.

#BROKEN Hasney
01-29-2018, 08:47 AM
Lita had the #timesup thing about sexual assault on her gear, then also Moolah's name on her forearm.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-14-2015/zlO5Mf.gif

Lock Jaw
01-29-2018, 08:48 AM
Was honestly expecting more NXT women to pad the numbers instead of old stars.

Was great to see Molly Holly, though. Everyone else's impact was slightly lessened by "oh, I just saw them on RAW"

Jordan
01-29-2018, 08:51 AM
The next three Rumbles will look a lot like this one did I'm sure, for the women.

Really good show from WWE.

I'd say the men's Rumble was MOTN. Really fun match, great final four finish.

Women did a good job, some of them were horrible (Kelly Kelly and Mrs. Taker) and I actually thought they may go with Trish to win it at one point. Auska killed it, shes a star. Really cool to have two Japanese Rumble winners as well.

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 08:52 AM
Were Sheamus, Cesaro, and Rollins the first people to ever be in a Rumble and then wrestle again later in the card? They have to be, right? It's normally always closed and on the rare occasion it hasn't it's been followed by a World Title match or something.

Wasn't a big deal or anything, it was just the weirdest part of the show for me. That tag match was doomed going after the emotional high of that Rumble and the crowd didn't even make a peep for Rollins' entrance since they'd only just seen him.

If I had my druthers I'd have kept them out of the Rumble and put in Cedric Alexander (who got shafted out of a payday thanks to Enzo), Zack Ryder (who would be attacked and replaced by Owens), and Curt Hawkins (to take the Sheamus comedy elimination spot, because of course).

#BROKEN Hasney
01-29-2018, 08:53 AM
I think we need a new gesture, like pelvic thrusting towards a sign, or grabbing a balloon that has Wrestlemania, or pointing to Michael Cole's ass that has WRESTLEMANIA tattooed on it.

Destor
01-29-2018, 09:13 AM
I was one of Rey's biggest detractors towards the end of his WWE run. Looked a lot slower than he used to. Generally looked like he didn't care, and was just going through the motions, putting in formulaic matches.

He looked fucking amazing here. I mean, just looking at him, you could tell he was in amazing shape, but his speed was faster than I remember seeing him since early into his original WWE run.

Really hope this isn't a one off and he's back for good, because as great as he looked, there are some amazing dream matches we could get with the current roster.
The reason he's faster and fitter is because he doesnt work full time. Putting him back on the road would just repeat that process

Fignuts
01-29-2018, 09:13 AM
Was honestly expecting more NXT women to pad the numbers instead of old stars.

Was great to see Molly Holly, though. Everyone else's impact was slightly lessened by "oh, I just saw them on RAW"

Yeah, would have preferred Cross, Peyton and Billie over Kelly, Torrie, and McCool, since the latter represented the piss break era.

Fignuts
01-29-2018, 09:15 AM
The reason he's faster and fitter is because he doesnt work full time. Putting him back on the orad would just repeat that process

Dunno, if he can work out a deal where he gets a lighter schedule, I could see him keeping up. Pays it back by putting over new stars.

#BROKEN Hasney
01-29-2018, 09:19 AM
Just stick him on 205 Live

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 09:25 AM
Yeah, would have preferred Cross, Peyton and Billie over Kelly, Torrie, and McCool, since the latter represented the piss break era.

If they're gung ho on keeping the match at 30, I'm thinking there will be more of an NXT contingent next year rather than just trotting out the same returnees.

That or they'll dip into the Mae Young Classic pool and bring in people like Toni Storm and Piper Niven who even if unsigned will probably get a good pop from the smark-heavy crowd that knows who they are.

Destor
01-29-2018, 09:27 AM
Bringing in unknowns comes with the expectation of following up with that talent...theres a commitment there and the roster space is so damn small...

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 09:28 AM
In the moment I was kinda annoyed at McCool getting to eliminate so many people and chalked it up to her getting to do it because she's Mrs. Taker.

But thinking about it, she's 5'10" which made her one of the tallest women in the match and therefore one of the few people who could get people over the top rope relatively easily.

Lock Jaw
01-29-2018, 09:33 AM
Anyone notice Sasha Banks horrible "kicks"?

She did it once against Lita where she was "kicking" her, but with no force and you could see as plain as day she was just slightly kicking the air several inches in front of her. Sasha did it again later on vs someone else. Dunno who.

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 09:38 AM
Becky's suplexes looked terrible near the end of her run too.

I think conditioning was definitely an issue as even the Sashas and Beckys rarely wrestle more than 10-15 minutes at a clip. It's understandable but I still think they should've stayed in the ring and just sold in the corner like the men do.

Big Vic
01-29-2018, 09:41 AM
In the moment I was kinda annoyed at McCool getting to eliminate so many people and chalked it up to her getting to do it because she's Mrs. Taker.

But thinking about it, she's 5'10" which made her one of the tallest women in the match and therefore one of the few people who could get people over the top rope relatively easily.

At least it wasn't Nikki Bella.

Big Vic
01-29-2018, 09:47 AM
Listening to a podcast. Besides the host almost all the callers are hating on the Royal Rumble.

#BROKEN Hasney
01-29-2018, 09:50 AM
I think everyone always hypes up the Rumble, when usually it's a match with barely anything happening for huge spots and they don't normally book anything in the early sections.

They did better this year than they have in many years, so I'm OK with that.

Big Vic
01-29-2018, 09:51 AM
Yeah, I thought there was no issue with it.

#BROKEN Hasney
01-29-2018, 09:52 AM
My biggest complaint was that not every entrant got to hit Heath Slater. He should have stayed after being eliminated.

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 09:55 AM
Yeah, this Rumble didn't feel like it had that many dead spots. Some of the early intervals were clocking in at < 90 seconds so they sped it along at the spot where it made sense to.

Probably the most I enjoyed a Rumble upon first viewing since 2010. That Rumble felt like the SVR games where you could never have more than 6 people in the ring, but stuff was constantly happening and it didn't ever really feel like a slog.

Big Vic
01-29-2018, 09:56 AM
Caller is mad Reigns didn't win because he wanted to see Philly freak out....

what does the IWC want?

Lock Jaw
01-29-2018, 09:57 AM
Becky's suplexes looked terrible near the end of her run too.

I think conditioning was definitely an issue as even the Sashas and Beckys rarely wrestle more than 10-15 minutes at a clip. It's understandable but I still think they should've stayed in the ring and just sold in the corner like the men do.

Dunno, I didn't notice anything about Becky.

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 10:01 AM
Caller is mad Reigns didn't win because he wanted to see Philly freak out....

what does the IWC want?

The same thing everybody wants

http://www.geocities.ws/prowrestlingpics/WWF/HEADscan002.jpg

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 10:03 AM
Dunno, I didn't notice anything about Becky.

By the end of it seemed like she was basically throwing them around herself, rather than over. Might've been a bit gassed.

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 10:04 AM
I look forward to the addition of the Tag Team Royal Rumble next year.

Deuce 'n Domino are winning this shit

#BROKEN Hasney
01-29-2018, 10:06 AM
Caller is mad Reigns didn't win because he wanted to see Philly freak out....

what does the IWC want?

Sounds like a single person and not a community.

I would have enjoyed the boos too, but what we got was better.

Sepholio
01-29-2018, 10:39 AM
What does the IWC want? Probably Reigns not getting the moon push and main eventing WM. But since we know that is the plan, the IWC would probably have preferred him going over at the Rumble for that huge reaction since we know he's going to win the elimination chamber now and it won't have near the entertaining impact. Just a guess.

Destor
01-29-2018, 10:46 AM
Not sure how they get to mania without doing strowman v lesnar

#BROKEN Hasney
01-29-2018, 10:52 AM
Not sure how they get to mania without doing strowman v lesnar

Lesnar not having enough dates will do it. Guess that'll be a Summerslam match or something.

Since they've allegedly been building to Roman/Brock for a year, you would have though they'd have put some thought into major challengers. Realistically, you've only got Braun, Brock and Miz and one of them he's had a long feud with already so won't want to burn early and one is part-time. Miz probably can get enough juice out of it for a couple of months, but who's the next Raw built up heel?

I'd guess Joe, not sure how long he's out for though.

Sepholio
01-29-2018, 10:57 AM
Not sure how they get to mania without doing strowman v lesnar

It's the WWE, that's how.

I have this sinking feeling they may try to force another triple threat by adding Strowman to Lesnar v Reigns. Unfortunately. I see the WWE logic being along the lines of "Strowman being in this match will make the crowd happier!" Even though Roman winning will crush all of that and probably make it much much worse. And after that stinker of a triple threat last night I am not at all enthused about the prospect of another one.

What would they even do with Lesnar v Strowman at EC? Strowman going over would be the only possible way to make that go over well because Lesnar winning would be yet another blow to their most popular main event act atm and pointless in the grand scheme of things. And do you really put Strowman over Lesnar to then job him to Reigns? That's a short term fix to the larger issue and that isn't going to go over well; that's going to get more boos than Reigns over Lesnar will by a long shot. The only way they could get maximum joy from the fan base is to put Strowman over Lesnar and then over Reigns; and the likelihood of that happening is almost absolute zero. No way the WWE will strike while the iron is hot.

Destor
01-29-2018, 10:57 AM
It feels like theyve dropped that though. The finish last night calls for a singles. So either the fork out some cash for an extra date at fastlane or theyre building to a mania match...


...or they just move on like theres nothing to see here.

Sepholio
01-29-2018, 11:02 AM
And which of those roads does the WWE usually choose to travel?

Did you see Dolph Ziggler in the Rumble last night?

Sepholio
01-29-2018, 11:04 AM
Best case scenario for Mania (for me at this point)is Brock vs Strowman and Reigns vs Miz.

I put the over/under on that actually occurring at not ever gonna happen.

Big Vic
01-29-2018, 11:05 AM
I hope Roman is in the Andre the Giant Memorial battle royal.

#BROKEN Hasney
01-29-2018, 11:05 AM
http://abload.de/img/1517206249568rnsc6.jpg

Lita's still got it.

Destor
01-29-2018, 11:06 AM
asx good as it ever was

#BROKEN Hasney
01-29-2018, 11:07 AM
It feels like theyve dropped that though. The finish last night calls for a singles. So either the fork out some cash for an extra date at fastlane or theyre building to a mania match...


...or they just move on like theres nothing to see here.

If it's #1 contender in the chamber match, they probably won't do it then as I assume Braun will be in that.

But hey, I'd watch if they forked out the money for Brock and just had him and Braun stiff the shit out of each other some more. No interest in watching a PPV headlined by Roman going to Mania via the chamber as has been the rumour for about 6 months now. But that, sure.

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 11:09 AM
Dolph's appearance was absolutely hilarious. Vacates the US title without explanation, randomly shows back up in the Rumble and does nothing.

I wanted him to reprise his gimmick of mimicking other wrestlers' entrances and have him enter to Cult of Personality. Think Philly would've even cheered Reigns or Cena throwing him out at that point.

#BROKEN Hasney
01-29-2018, 11:11 AM
It does lead me to think that he was planned to win it at one point. It all makes sense.

Then someone went "Oh, you meant that guy winning... No"

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 11:20 AM
I honestly think Dolph's entire WWE career is a rib on Dolph at this point.

Even the commentary at that point was just Michael Cole saying, "didn't he retire or something?" Nobody gives a shit.

Dark One
01-29-2018, 12:13 PM
Legitimately expected Dolph Ziggler to come back to answer the US Open Challenge for the title he threw away because WWE.


Oh for fuck's sake, this was actually their original plan.

According to PWinsider, Dolph Ziggler was originally penciled in to face Bobby Roode at last night’s WWE Royal Rumble, but over the course of the weekend, the decision was made to bump him up to the Rumble match. He is scheduled to work tomorrow’s WWE Smackdown tapings.

#BROKEN Hasney
01-29-2018, 12:19 PM
Amazingly, entering the Rumble and doing fuck all is apparently moving up.

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 12:57 PM
Apparently nearly half of the people who have drawn #1 or #2 throughout history have made it past the final entrant throughout Rumble history.

I mean I get it, but it kinda kills the talking point that it's some crazy huge disadvantage to get those spots.

Big Vic
01-29-2018, 12:58 PM
wonder what year was the earliest both were eliminated.

#BROKEN Hasney
01-29-2018, 01:01 PM
There's been a good couple where some big guy has cleaned house early.

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 01:05 PM
wonder what year was the earliest both were eliminated.

2010 comes to mind. Ziggler and Bourne started, Punk cleaned them both out at #3 and then went on to do promos in between throwing geeks out quickly for the first several interviews. That was fun.

Theo Dious
01-29-2018, 01:14 PM
Thanks for your #hottake.

I'M A HELPER.

slik
01-29-2018, 01:21 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I told y’all I was gonna make history tonight... FIRST woman ever eliminated in the very FIRST women’s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RoyalRumble?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RoyalRumble</a> &amp; it was by a legend <a href="https://twitter.com/AmyDumas?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AmyDumas</a> ������ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ImStillTheHottest?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ImStillTheHottest</a> ����█♀️</p>&mdash; Mandy (@WWE_MandyRose) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE_MandyRose/status/957845540859011072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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XL
01-29-2018, 01:40 PM
Might as well make this the Royal Rumble thread and not just for KickOff.

Let’s not let this flagrant disregard for my wishes go unnoticed.

Imagine the outrage if I were non-white, non-male, non-heterosexual.

slik
01-29-2018, 01:55 PM
I would have done it anyways

Destor
01-29-2018, 03:37 PM
https://scontent.flex1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15823546_992604750845153_1789026965703104912_n.jpg?oh=3c436dfdaa4714845510a5ae9bd9968e&oe=5AEA3AB7

#1-norm-fan
01-29-2018, 03:43 PM
I really hope Rousey's not ACTUALLY full-time. Don't make her just another part of the roster. As much as people bitch about part-timers, it's the only way WWE can keep people feeling somewhat special.

Can you imagine if they had Lesnar at their disposal weekly? Just doing the same pointless tag matches every week like everyone else and losing via interference once in a while to the shock of the commentators? Yeah...

Emperor Smeat
01-29-2018, 03:44 PM
Oh for fuck's sake, this was actually their original plan.
Wonder who was the original #30 then.

Whoever it was would have been a way better option than Ziggy.

#1-norm-fan
01-29-2018, 03:46 PM
Wonder who was the original #30 then.

Whoever it was would have been a way better option than Ziggy.

Jason Jordan maybe. Isn't he actually hurt?

Destor
01-29-2018, 03:47 PM
I really hope Rousey's not ACTUALLY full-time. Don't make her just another part of the roster. As much as people bitch about part-timers, it's the only way WWE can keep people feeling somewhat special.

Can you imagine if they had Lesnar at their disposal weekly? Just doing the same pointless tag matches every week like everyone else and losing via interference once in a while to the shock of the commentators? Yeah...the diff of course is lesnar knew how to work thanks to years on the road. With out the expirience in front of crowds there isnt a way to learn.

#1-norm-fan
01-29-2018, 03:48 PM
It's still not like they're low on guys on the roster. I mean... they could have put Mojo in the Rumble. What about that Ziggler appearance made it so necessary?

XL
01-29-2018, 03:50 PM
Put her in the PC for weeks at a time to polish up, she can promo/Backstage segment frequently, then yeah start putting her in rotation. Not like she’s a noob to being in front of a large crowd.

Loose Cannon
01-29-2018, 03:50 PM
I really hope Rousey's not ACTUALLY full-time. Don't make her just another part of the roster. As much as people bitch about part-timers, it's the only way WWE can keep people feeling somewhat special.

Can you imagine if they had Lesnar at their disposal weekly? Just doing the same pointless tag matches every week like everyone else and losing via interference once in a while to the shock of the commentators? Yeah...

I agree.

but it's funny, they have Lesnar part time and they've managed to make his schtick old already. honestly once he started feuding with Somoa Joe and Kane and even Braun, I felt like his value went down. I loved the AJ match though.

Emperor Smeat
01-29-2018, 03:51 PM
Jason Jordan maybe. Isn't he actually hurt?
Back problems.

#1-norm-fan
01-29-2018, 03:55 PM
I agree.

but it's funny, they have Lesnar part time and they've managed to make his schtick old already. honestly once he started feuding with Somoa Joe and Kane and even Braun, I felt like his value went down. I loved the AJ match though.

Yeah, I'm not really feeling Lesnar as much as I used to. Started around the time of the Ambrose feud for me. I think part of it is they just ran out of guys who are over enough to be worthy of facing Lesnar. So in the process of trying to bring young guys up simply by letting them face Lesnar it brought his mystique down.

slik
01-29-2018, 03:58 PM
Michael Cole during Ronda's first match 'Ronda just likes to have fun!'

Loose Cannon
01-29-2018, 04:11 PM
Yeah, I'm not really feeling Lesnar as much as I used to. Started around the time of the Ambrose feud for me. I think part of it is they just ran out of guys who are over enough to be worthy of facing Lesnar. So in the process of trying to bring young guys up simply by letting them face Lesnar it brought his mystique down.

god i forgot about that feud. yep, that's where it all started. it basically made Lesnar come down a level instead of making Ambrose come up.

I guess he's been back almost 6 years now though so it was a matter of time

GD
01-29-2018, 04:22 PM
I had a great time watching the event last evening. Both the Rumbles exceeded my expectations with the Nakamura victory bringing pure joy to my heart. If I were to nitpick, the placement of the RAW Tag Team Championship match did a disservice to someone as prominent as Seth Rollins. The 2 straight falls for the Usos was a bit underwhelming, and Lesnar retaliating with a punch took me out of the match. Mostly because my friend was genuinely scared by the whole ordeal (he's still new to the world of professional wrestling). Ronda's introduction was pretty cool, I had goosebumps. Overall, I don't have much to complain. I had a great time :)

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 04:25 PM
Lesnar's first year back was really terrible come to think......

Loses to Cena in his first match back. Great match but an outcome that made him look like just another schmuck.

Beats Triple H in his second match and it pretty much sucked.

His first Mania back he gives his win right back to Triple H. Another shitty match that looked even worse coming after an amazing Punk/Taker match. I was at this show live and I nearly fell asleep during HHH/Lesnar.

Honestly when he went over Taker a year later all I could think was "really?" because to me, I'd already labeled Brock as just another dude by that point and thought him being the one to end the streak was a wet fart. It wasn't until he murdered Cena at SummerSlam '14 that he started to really feel different.

Ol Dirty Dastard
01-29-2018, 04:27 PM
Cena redeemed himself by doing such a clean job to Brock as SS. But him and HHH are the prime offenders in making guys seem like "just another guy". Cena, at the very least stopped doing that now that he wants to transition out of his in ring career, but HHH STILL DOES THAT at like 80 years old, which blows me away. I blame Stephanie. And KENTA.

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 04:34 PM
Triple H and Bryan tore the house down at WM20. I would've been more than happy having that moment double down as Hunter's retirement.

Instead, I think that match had him convinced he could work a 20 minute "epic" at Mania every year....and we wound up with 3 absolute slogs as a result. I hope the rumors are true of it being him and Steph vs. Rock and Rousey, because I really can't bear the thought of another HHH singles match. Also it'd be nice if Rock's last official WWE match wasn't against Erick cunting Rowan.

GD
01-29-2018, 04:48 PM
Hunter does hold the record for the most loses at Mania. Just saying...:cool:

GD
01-29-2018, 04:52 PM
That being said, I'd love to voice my displeasure for the Hunter-Lesnar trilogy of matches. Their first meeting at SummerSlam should've been good enough but I guess the reaction at the end of the match might've ruined what they were going for. Hunter beating Lesnar at Mania in their No Holds Barred showdown genuinely broke my heart as it was followed with Cena defeating The Rock for the WWE Championship. The rubber "steel cage" match where Lesnar got his win back seemed very inconsequential.

GD
01-29-2018, 04:54 PM
And while folks credit Cena for making Lesnar look like a monster at SummerSlam, Lesnar started acting like a "chicken-shit" heel going into their title rematch at Night of Champions.

Fignuts
01-29-2018, 05:04 PM
I really hope Rousey's not ACTUALLY full-time. Don't make her just another part of the roster. As much as people bitch about part-timers, it's the only way WWE can keep people feeling somewhat special.

Can you imagine if they had Lesnar at their disposal weekly? Just doing the same pointless tag matches every week like everyone else and losing via interference once in a while to the shock of the commentators? Yeah...

Honestly, I rather would see her full time and learn how to really work, and possibly become a great wrestler, rather than see her keep that "special attraction" vibe with matches that are the drizzling shits.

#1-norm-fan
01-29-2018, 05:37 PM
I'd be fine with that if WWE could find a good middleground and not overexpose her just because they have constant access to her. I have no faith they can do that though. I'd prefer they let her work dark matches and house shows while letting her TV matches and appearances be meaningful.

Ol Dirty Dastard
01-29-2018, 05:40 PM
She'll be going 50/50 with Bailey in no time.

I'd treat her like Chyna, but without the run in the men's division. Have her as a dude's muscle, and guys be unsure they can hit her, and she just judo flips them and shit.

Then eventually have it trickle down into a run with the women's title.

#1-norm-fan
01-29-2018, 06:06 PM
Lesnar's first year back was really terrible come to think......

Loses to Cena in his first match back. Great match but an outcome that made him look like just another schmuck.

Beats Triple H in his second match and it pretty much sucked.

His first Mania back he gives his win right back to Triple H. Another shitty match that looked even worse coming after an amazing Punk/Taker match. I was at this show live and I nearly fell asleep during HHH/Lesnar.

Honestly when he went over Taker a year later all I could think was "really?" because to me, I'd already labeled Brock as just another dude by that point and thought him being the one to end the streak was a wet fart. It wasn't until he murdered Cena at SummerSlam '14 that he started to really feel different.

I thought the first match with Cena was perfect. Made Cena look like a badass. The smarky Chicago crowd actually turned pro-Cena by the end of it. It was incredible. Lesnar could have chalked it up as rust and gone on to be a killer anyway. (Let's not even talk about how badly they followed up with Cena...)

After that it got shaky though. Of all people, HIM falling victim to WWE's 50/50 booking was just insane.

owenbrown
01-29-2018, 06:20 PM
Triple H and Bryan tore the house down at WM20. I would've been more than happy having that moment double down as Hunter's retirement.

Instead, I think that match had him convinced he could work a 20 minute "epic" at Mania every year....and we wound up with 3 absolute slogs as a result. I hope the rumors are true of it being him and Steph vs. Rock and Rousey, because I really can't bear the thought of another HHH singles match. Also it'd be nice if Rock's last official WWE match wasn't against Erick cunting Rowan.

WM20? :wtf:

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 06:31 PM
Because it couldn't POSSIBLY be that I typed WM20 instead of WM30

Jordan
01-29-2018, 07:04 PM
Yeah I want this tag match. I want a WM with The Rock.

Cool King
01-29-2018, 08:05 PM
• I found the Men's Royal Rumble Match to be a bit "meh".

It's cool Nakamura won, I guess. I've never really been all that keen on him to be honest. I don't "get him". At times, I find him to be a bit irritating with his mannerisms and all that.

When it was just Nakamura and Reigns, you could tell it was Triple H's guy against Vince's guy, and when it was down to two, I knew Nakamura was going to win and choose to face Styles, because Nakamura/Styles at WrestleMania for the WWE Championship is pretty much every IWC member's wet dream.

The Hurricane was a pleasant surprise as was Mysterio. Both surprises surprised me when it came to their appearance. Hurricane has let himself go a bit and Mysterio looks better than ever.

Even though I'm not really a Nakamura fan, I will say that him winning was the right call and with the last elimination being Reigns, the Raw guy, this just opens up Reigns/Lesnar at WrestleMania. Either Reigns will demand the match claiming that he should face Lesnar because he was the last Raw guy in the Royal Rumble Match and be given it, or Reigns demands the match but so do other people so they all face each other in an Elimination Chamber match next month which Reigns wins.

Also, how bad was Ziggler's return? Nobody seemed to care. It probably would have helped if he didn't have that stupid record scratch noise before his theme, then maybe people would have known who it was and given a better reaction.

When I heard it, I thought "Who the hell is that?" then his theme played and I thought "Oh, it's Ziggler. Cool".

• The Women's Royal Rumble Match surprised me. I actually enjoyed it.

However, I think having 30 entrants for women is a bit too much as a good chunk of entrants were past wrestlers, which was fun for the nostalgia trip but it just showed how little the pool is when it comes to women.

Speaking of nostalgia trips however, the biggest surprise of the entire night for me was Molly Holly. I've always been a big fan of hers. It was also really good to see Beth Phoenix back in the ring too. Still looking as hot as ever. No Kaitlyn though, but there's always next year.

Most of the nostalgia entrants would have gotten a bigger reaction from the crowd and would have been a bigger surprise to me if we hadn't just seen them on Monday.

Torrie Wilson was a good surprise but when McCool came out, I was just waiting for Kelly Kelly, Jacqueline, The Bellas and Trish. I knew Trish would be last as "saving the best 'till last" and all that. Another nice surprise was Vickie Guerrero.

Back to the match itself though and I was actually really wanting Nia to win and I actually thought there was a chance for her but after her elimination, I was pretty sure it was going to be Asuka or Banks and I was praying to the Gods of every religion that it wasn't going to be Banks.

The ending was a bit flat however. The first ever Women's Royal Rumble Match ends with a big kick to the shins and a bad jump.

The end of the PPV itself though was another thing.

We've just had the first ever Women's Royal Rumble Match. Something that's taken thirty years to happen and the winner and the match itself gets overshadowed by Stephanie and her best bud, Ronda Rousey.

That clearly could have waited one more night and taken place on Raw. She also could have sold Ronda's "surprise appearance" a bit better.

Cole: Stephanie! What do you know about this!? :eek:

Stephanie: I'm speechless, Cole. :|

It reminded me of Todd Grisham's reaction to Christian's return in 2009.

"It's, it's Christian. :|"

Anyway, part of me just can't help but think that the Women's Royal Rumble took place and as the main event just so that Stephanie and Ronda could get all the attention. I also do think equality played a part in it too though. I'd say 52% - Stephanie/Ronda and 48% - Equality.

Cool King
01-29-2018, 08:05 PM
I was one of Rey's biggest detractors towards the end of his WWE run. Looked a lot slower than he used to. Generally looked like he didn't care, and was just going through the motions, putting in formulaic matches.

He looked fucking amazing here. I mean, just looking at him, you could tell he was in amazing shape, but his speed was faster than I remember seeing him since early into his original WWE run.

Really hope this isn't a one off and he's back for good, because as great as he looked, there are some amazing dream matches we could get with the current roster.

It could be a one off as he's currently tied up over here, as he's making appearance for 5 Star Wrestling from 1st February to 10th May.

Cool King
01-29-2018, 08:07 PM
Those dates all fall on Thursdays though, so he could get a plane back and forth between the US and UK if he really wanted to.

Evil Vito
01-29-2018, 10:57 PM
Imagine being a lapsed fan and just seeing this BBC headline without knowing that they did two Rumbles.

http://content.invisioncic.com/r229509/monthly_2018_01/asuka.png.0b104493ed7e8bf3285c3bb31a6a54aa.png

Mr. Nerfect
01-30-2018, 02:52 AM
Hunter does hold the record for the most loses at Mania. Just saying...:cool:

And who actually gets over because of it?

GD
01-30-2018, 03:20 AM
Hunter does hold the record for the most loses at Mania. Just saying...:cool:

And who actually gets over because of it?

Dear Noid,

Are you remotely serious?

Best,
GDB

KIRA
01-30-2018, 07:13 AM
Wait a minute Alica Fox broke her ass-bone the day of the Rumble...... :'(:'(:'(:(:(:(

WHY???:rant::mad:

Lock Jaw
01-30-2018, 07:56 AM
Too much spanking

Ol Dirty Dastard
01-30-2018, 07:59 AM
Dear Noid,

Are you remotely serious?

Best,
GDB

The only guy that really got over was Bautista, and only to a certain level.

Big Vic
01-30-2018, 08:02 AM
Her and I were having rough sex, KIRA.

Mr. Nerfect
01-30-2018, 08:50 AM
Dear Noid,

Are you remotely serious?

Best,
GDB

Absolutely 100% serious. As Dale pointed out, the only guy is probably Batista.

Rammsteinmad
01-30-2018, 09:57 AM
• I found the Men's Royal Rumble Match to be a bit "meh".

It's cool Nakamura won, I guess. I've never really been all that keen on him to be honest. I don't "get him". At times, I find him to be a bit irritating with his mannerisms and all that.

When it was just Nakamura and Reigns, you could tell it was Triple H's guy against Vince's guy, and when it was down to two, I knew Nakamura was going to win and choose to face Styles, because Nakamura/Styles at WrestleMania for the WWE Championship is pretty much every IWC member's wet dream.

This.

Can't wait to see Styles and Nakamura in the opening match at Wrestlemania 34. :mad:

Also Ziggler's return might have meant something if he'd been gone for more than three weeks.

Destor
01-30-2018, 10:00 AM
Can't wait to see Styles and Nakamura in the opening match at Wrestlemania 34. :mad:
As long as it gets 25+ who gives a shit

Mr. Nerfect
01-30-2018, 10:13 AM
Styles vs. Nakamura will be hot shit at Mania. People will be buzzing about Nak, and it feels fairly safe that he'll be winning the belt, so good for him.

Mr. Nerfect
01-30-2018, 10:16 AM
Interesting to see what happens with Styles after Mania. He seems like a good tentpole player for SmackDown, but it also feels like he might get "promoted." Reigns vs. Styles coming out of Mania, Styles vs. Brock, Styles vs. Joe and Styles vs. Balor are all pretty exciting match-ups. Moving Styles freshens things with the least moves possible.

#BROKEN Hasney
01-30-2018, 10:20 AM
Hope AJ/Nakamura is the pre-show so I can watch it before bed and also not bnoth signing up for another free network trial.

Destor
01-30-2018, 12:36 PM
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Ol Dirty Dastard
01-30-2018, 12:56 PM
LOLOLOLOLOL

Ol Dirty Dastard
01-30-2018, 12:56 PM
Man. Ronday would be a great fucking heel if she could embrace her inner crybaby about getting knocked out.

Ol Dirty Dastard
01-30-2018, 12:56 PM
But she is too insecure, sadly.

Destor
01-30-2018, 01:07 PM
I mean you cant turn her until youve blown your load on your night one draw. After that she has no value though and turning is probably best because your live crowds are going to shit on her after they see her exposed in a match.

Evil Vito
01-30-2018, 01:12 PM
Asuka tapping out Rousey and Rousey being a total cunt about it would actually interest me a lot.

Mr. Nerfect
01-30-2018, 01:50 PM
Rousey will end up heel.

Rammsteinmad
01-30-2018, 02:10 PM
As long as it gets 25+ who gives a shit

I'm still a firm believer of the tradition that winning the Rumble to "headline Wrestlemania" means being in the final match.

Honestly... AJ Styles vs Shinsuke Nakamura would be so, completely and totally "out there" compared to what we usually get in the main event, that I would fucking LOVE for that to close the show.

And I'm "meh" about Nakamura.

Evil Vito
01-30-2018, 02:12 PM
http://content.invisioncic.com/r229509/monthly_2018_01/whoistheealstar.jpg.008746318326fac757090318d1df9cb2.jpg