Dark Side of The Ring Discussion Thread (Warning: Spoilers)

[ron the dial]

dude is asking to be fired, really. even if you're a dipshit with that dipshit opinion, you've got be smarter than saying it on a popular tv show.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It just highlights that dreamer is an idiot

[Jordan]

I wonder if they'll ever do an Ashley Massarro episode. Her affidavit about being drugged so she was paralyzed but conscious while being repeatedly raped/sodomized is pretty disturbing stuff.

Vince then telling her she basically needed to 'stand up for wwe' and not sell that it happened.

Yeah that should be done. Really fucked up.

They didn't mention the Kurt Angle vs Vince wrestling match.

I thought that was this flight as well, confused how that didn't come up.

[fundiddle]

WALTMAN:
"Obviously [WWE management] made a big deal out of it…the f***in’ door – it’s impossible for it to open at that altitude. So it was really stupid. [The flight before] Vince and Kurt Angle had a take-down tournament in the aisle – but as soon as it happened with [Hennig and Lesnar], they made a big deal out of it…"


not sure where it fits within the sequence of events, as angle referred to it as "the charter flight back from england"

[Triple A]

TOMMY DREAMER INDEFINITELY SUSPENDED BY IMPACT WRESTLING

By Mike Johnson on 2021-09-17 14:17:00

Impact Wrestling's Ed Nordholm issued an email to the company's roster and staff today announcing that Tommy Dreamer was suspended indefinitely going forward.

In the email, Nordholm stated that the company was made aware of comments Dreamer made on last night's Dark Side of the Ring and they were "out of line with our core values" as a company. In the episode, Dreamer commented on allegations made about Ric Flair on the infamous "plane ride from hell" twenty years ago.

Nordholm stated Dreamer was "asked to leave effective immediately" from Nashville, TN and was suspended going forward.

Nordholm also asked that if anyone had any concerns of questions, to approach Gail Kim, Scott D'Amore or himself.

PWInsider.com's attempts to reach Dreamer after learning of his suspension were unsuccessful as of this writing.

https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=150866

[Jordan]

Welp that's what he gets for sucking Flair's big dick, funny thing is, Flair probably see's Tommy the same way he see's Foley, a schmuck.

No way Flair gets a deal with AEW now.

[Triple A]

From the Observer:

The reason for the angle on Rampage where Chavo Guerrero was turned on by Andrade and then beaten down by Penta & Fenix which looked like a character blow-off is that Chavo works as the wrestling coordinator for the TV show “Young Rock” and they are filming the second season of the show now. After the filming of season two, Guerrero is expected back to AEW.

[GD]

What an episode. Holy shit!

Genuinely pissed at Dreamer. FFS :nono:

[Stu Hart]

fuck flic rair

[Gerard]

fuck flic rair

Ehhh fuck you old man, i'll stretch your asshole out so wide it'll look like a Hippos mouth when its yawning! :shifty:

[Gerard]

So Michael Hayes slept through it all? Was it not previously mentioned he was so shitfaced he almost pissed on Linda thinking he was in the toilet? Or was that a different flight?

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bam Bam in 1998 talking about Ric Flair. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PlaneRideFromHell?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PlaneRideFromHell</a> <a href="https://t.co/pMuEp3pArP">pic.twitter.com/pMuEp3pArP</a></p>&mdash; sam (@NVRBEENONVOGUE) <a href="https://twitter.com/NVRBEENONVOGUE/status/1438793013959041026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Seanny One Ball]

Watched it just there and that’s one of the truly dark episodes - nothing funny about any of it.
Just like Brody, the events are all individually well known but when you put them together in the timeline it actually looks horrific. Everything that flight attendant said speaks to an un-healed trauma and alongside it you have Jim Ross looking genuinely stunned when they asked him about Flair escaping unpunished. You can see him actually make the decision to be honest right there and then, so Tommy Dreamer looks like a complete scumbag when he gets chopped in saying it’s all nonsense.

The show felt 90 minutes long to me given how heavy it was. I don’t think I’ll ever watch this one again, it has given me too much to think about.

Rob Van Dam came out of it looking pretty decent...if only he had a reason for watching Ric instead of stopping him but I suppose not cheering him on makes him the hero of the tale.

[Gerard]

Dreamer talks about still having his hair at 50, after numerous transplants...that fact slipped his mind.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s a video of Ric Flair flashing flight attendants being portrayed in two separate WWE productions—the &quot;30 For 30” episode they co-produced with ESPN and an episode of Story Time on WWE Network—as a happy fun time worthy of happy fun time cartoon portrayals with jaunty music. <a href="https://t.co/IzTqiUaVHH">pic.twitter.com/IzTqiUaVHH</a></p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1438690453222825986?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The stuff about Ric Flair's infamous antics during the flight isn't that surprising since even both WWE and ESPN mentioned that being a habit of his before in recent shows they've produced but what made Dark Side's episode way more damaging was them managing to actually get the flight attendant who was harassed by him for their show. That turned his antics from being something of an immature gag and chuckle to something way more serious in tone.

Only reason the current heat on Flair isn't even bigger is due to Dreamer taking some of the spotlight away because of his moronic takes over the incident.

[Triple A]

RIC FLAIR CAR SHIELD COMMERCIAL CAMPAIGN PAUSED FOLLOWING 'DARK SIDE OF THE RING' ALLEGATIONS

By Mike Johnson on 2021-09-17 17:23:00

The fallout of last night's Dark Side of the Ring episode on "The Plane Ride from Hell" has continued, PWInsider.com has exclusively confirm.

The Car Shield commercial campaign featuring the WWE Hall of Famer as the star of a number off spots for the brand has been "paused."

A spokesperson for Intermedia, the advertising agency which handles Car Shield's commercials told PWInsider.com:

"We take these matters very seriously. As of right now, we are pausing the campaign and we will do our due diligence."

PWInsider.com is also told there is currently no timetable for the spots to return to the airwaves and that the commercial will soon disappear pending additional investigation and decisions.

In the documentary, a flight attendant on the 2002 WWE "Plane Ride from Hell" from London to the United States stated that Ric Flair, naked with the exception of his robe, cornered her in the galley of the plane, making unwanted advances towards her.

In the past, Flair has denied all allegations and as recently as several days ago, told Renee Young on her podcast, " God, I’ve heard about it too. Just when things are going good for me. Listen, you [Renee Paquette] put me on your podcast after. We’ll see how it plays out, because I was there and I don’t care whose name I gotta drop if the heat falls on me. I know who was where and what and who and what took place. I know the whole story."

https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=150870

[Jordan]

Flair is bringing someone down with him!

[#1-norm-fan]

How is Dreamer getting more shit for defending Flair than Lesnar is for actually pulling a “Flair”? lol

[ron the dial]

cuz terri no sold it

[ron the dial]

???

[#1-norm-fan]

If that makes it alright then that would explain Flair’s interest in AEW. He can show his dick to The Bucks all he wants. They don’t sell shit.

[Seanny One Ball]

How is Dreamer getting more shit for defending Flair than Lesnar is for actually pulling a “Flair”? lol



Man, she fucked New Jack.
Terri is a step above Missy Hyatt and Tammy Sytch in the public eye.

She’d find it hard getting sympathy for anything.

[xrodmuc316]

A day late to watching, but I think I only heard 2 new things.

Hayes punching a sleeping JBL and Dustin spitting his chewing tobacco in the back of the seat, both are quite tame compared to what was already known forever.

I feel like they only included Terri's story of Brock flashing just to set the tone of "wrestlers" do this all the time for the sake of telling the Flair story.

The only real interesting thing from this episode is Dreamer being so defensive of Flair, and Impact's reaction to it.

Id also have to check the timeline since I dont recall, but Jericho as the narrator acting like that is all beneath him when he is one of the all time drunks, I mean come on lol. If he was on that flight he was loaded, guaranteed!

[xrodmuc316]

https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=150870

NOOOO LA Knight needs that spotlight now that Vince is in charge of NXT and had him job twice the first show :(

[xrodmuc316]

If that makes it alright then that would explain Flair’s interest in AEW. He can show his dick to The Bucks all he wants. They don’t sell shit.

This gets all the rep :rofl:

[Evil Vito]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Next week’s episode of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/darksideofthering?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#darksideofthering</a> is on Chris Kanyon and might not paint Ric Flair in the best light either. Clip thread under this post. <a href="https://t.co/uiEN7et5Ly">pic.twitter.com/uiEN7et5Ly</a></p>&mdash; Wrestling News (@WrestlingNewsCo) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingNewsCo/status/1438942399464681492?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[#1-norm-fan]

I remember that interview. Honestly, outside of him kinda off-handedly calling Kanyon’s sexuality a choice, I don’t think Flair came off too bad. Kanyon was adamant that he was let go because he was gay. Flair argued that wasn’t the reason. And I kinda side with Flair. Regardless though, he wasn’t being horribly offensive or anything.

[Triple A]

Same, also have seen that whole video before... feel like that interview was extremely tame compared to the other stuff he's accused of

[erickman]

it may be hard for darkside of the ring to get interviews for next season wrestlers don't want to screw up like dreamer did.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think it’s safe to say that Ric Flair won’t be in AEW any time soon. And Andrade’s career is pretty much dead in the water.

Eh, wrestling has gotten away with so much for so long. None of this is news, but under new light with younger eyes and fresher cultural attitudes, shit is getting called out. Paul Wight might find himself in trouble too, although he could possibly claim to have grown up and changed.

I cannot believe Vince McMahon’s scandals have not been revisited.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Heard that Vince and Taker really take a beating in the Kanyon episode. I don’t know how true or not true Kanyon’s version of events are versus the reality of wrestling, but any fallout from it (if any) is going to be interesting to watch.

[Jordan]

I hope they don't cancel Taker Wine!

[Mr. Nerfect]

It’ll be genuinely interesting to see what, if any, repercussions there are for the attention some of these stories get.

[Triple A]

Paul Wight might find himself in trouble too, although he could possibly claim to have grown up and changed.

What's Paul Wight accused of?

[Mr. Nerfect]

What's Paul Wight accused of?

It was in his WCW days. He approached a woman at a bar or something, asked her “Do you know why they call me The Giant?” and proceeded to take his dick out and put it on her shoulder. The boys covered it up for him.

He was young at the time, and the dude has had a very public life and I can’t remember anything THAT bad ever happening again. But he did have quite a few legal issues in his WCW years.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

How is Dreamer getting more shit for defending Flair than Lesnar is for actually pulling a “Flair”? lol

This is a great point

[Damian Rey 2.0]

it may be hard for darkside of the ring to get interviews for next season wrestlers don't want to screw up like dreamer did.

They pay people to come on and if wrestling has shown me anything, people will do mostly anything to get paid in the rasslin business

[Bad News Gertner]

I don't think they pay people

[Mr. Nerfect]

On Brock Lesnar: The chips will fall where they may. I hate the excuse that the “boys will be boys.” But he was basically an impressionable kid in a ridiculous culture. Not defending what he did. But I see people defending Dustin as someone that has “grown” and cleaned himself up since those incidents. Brock fucking hated wrestling for a reason, and he’s possibly changed too. Still a fucking caricature of a manly man, but I think there is a subconscious reason that men in their 50’s are being called out for being absolute cunts versus a jock in his mid-20’s for doing something horrible in a culturally bankrupt environment.

Not an excuse. I’m just trying to lay out an explanation for why the heat might be going where it’s going. If Brock *defended* it now? Big difference. Dreamer is making that shit seem harmless *now*, instead of just shutting the fuck up and showing remorse.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This sort of nightmare is why the ratings and the demos and all that shit don’t matter like people celebrate them mattering. Wrestling can be a fucking trash fire. Ric Flair was, in all likelihood, about to debut in AEW. He might even already technically be under contract, publicly known or not, and collecting tens of thousands of dollars a week from the Khans. They might distance themselves now, but it could still ring hollow to advertisers, executives, fans and commentators. Could you blame a company for not wanting to prop up wrestling — AEW or WWE — with a platform, or advertisers desperately wanting to avoid being associated with this carny bullshit?

And I’m not about to pretend I’ve been here calling for Ric Flair’s head. This shit makes hypocrites of us all. And it’s just ugly. And it’s why Nike, their problematic shit aside, doesn’t give a fuck about catering to me. Or you. They want us to buy their shit, but they don’t want to see us actually wearing it.

[Seanny One Ball]

I don't think they pay people



Somebody is paying somebody

[Juan]

lol that guy they had play Ric Flair is ridiculous

[Mr. Nerfect]

Just thinking about how surreal it is that as a community, if you can collectively lump people in together that way, we all knew about this but just...ignored it.

[Seanny One Ball]

You can’t blame the audience for off-screen incidents.
I love wrestling but I’m not putting old men on a pedestal when it comes down to this sort of thing.
I fully expect Shawn Michaels to get what’s coming to him soon enough. I mean you can only shave so many heads after date rape before somebody speaks up in front of a camera that films HD.

They’ll find a victim eventually.

[Noid]

On Brock Lesnar: The chips will fall where they may. I hate the excuse that the “boys will be boys.” But he was basically an impressionable kid in a ridiculous culture. Not defending what he did. But I see people defending Dustin as someone that has “grown” and cleaned himself up since those incidents. Brock fucking hated wrestling for a reason, and he’s possibly changed too. Still a fucking caricature of a manly man, but I think there is a subconscious reason that men in their 50’s are being called out for being absolute cunts versus a jock in his mid-20’s for doing something horrible in a culturally bankrupt environment.

Not an excuse. I’m just trying to lay out an explanation for why the heat might be going where it’s going. If Brock *defended* it now? Big difference. Dreamer is making that shit seem harmless *now*, instead of just shutting the fuck up and showing remorse.

I feel similarly about Brock Lesnar. Even though he was young and in a tough spot, it doesn't excuse what he did to Runnels. Besides that, he's had a lot of unsavory things to say about minorities and those who lead alternative lifestyles.

[Noid]

You can’t blame the audience for off-screen incidents.
I love wrestling but I’m not putting old men on a pedestal when it comes down to this sort of thing.
I fully expect Shawn Michaels to get what’s coming to him soon enough. I mean you can only shave so many heads after date rape before somebody speaks up in front of a camera that films HD.

They’ll find a victim eventually.

I wholeheartedly agree with this.

I don't believe I can purchase merchandise in good faith anymore.

[Seanny One Ball]

The real Noid wouldn’t have said that in two lines.

[Bad News Gertner]

There shouldn't be any shortage of guys willing to talk. Jim Ross, Sean Waltman, Justin Credible, Dustin Rhodes have all spoken at length about this. I don't imagine this will be a groundbreaking episode. Kind of a light episode like Brawl 4 All. Kurt Angle would be a very cool get.

Haha well I was wrong there

[Seanny One Ball]

It started off with Bradshaw getting punched so...

[IC Champion]

Imagine surprised to learn Ric Flair is a possible sexual predator.

[Gerard]

I think after this epsiode a lot of "the boys" will be shitting bricks if their past shenanigans get brought up in one of these episodes.

[xrodmuc316]

I don't think they pay people

Tony Khan is, with the 2 conditions that his talent can mention "Dark Side" on his tv show in angles, and that the show just BURIES WWE at every chance.

[Noid]

The real Noid wouldn’t have said that in two lines.

I am very concise.

[Stu Hart]

Brutus Beefcake made a statement in a shoot interview that Shawn and Marty "h=bombed" then raped women in hotels.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More wild stories resurfacing coming out of this week’s <a href="https://twitter.com/DarkSideOfRing?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DarkSideOfRing</a> ! This time about Shawn Michaels &amp; Marty dating raping people and tossing their bodies in the hotel hallways �� <a href="https://t.co/7YoMJOQuwD">pic.twitter.com/7YoMJOQuwD</a></p>&mdash; Ringside News (@ringsidenews_) <a href="https://twitter.com/ringsidenews_/status/1438922873817681920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol oh God, the only Timeline I couldn't finish. Beefcake told so many yarns, but I can definitely believe that one

[Mr. Nerfect]

Imagine surprised to learn Ric Flair is a possible sexual predator.

I don’t think people are surprised about learning that.

[Seanny One Ball]

Shawn Michaels has to be shitting himself.

Sid will be shitting himself for season 4.
That stabbing is an all-time incident.
People will talk...

[Bad News Gertner]

I love that people blame Sid because Arn is a better in ring worker

[Bad News Gertner]

All this stuff is just zapping my enthusiasm for wrestling. Not so much as what they did. More that this is going to be a gigantic topic that's not going away which will and already is turning into a witch hunt

[Sting Fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s a video of Ric Flair flashing flight attendants being portrayed in two separate WWE productions—the &quot;30 For 30” episode they co-produced with ESPN and an episode of Story Time on WWE Network—as a happy fun time worthy of happy fun time cartoon portrayals with jaunty music. <a href="https://t.co/IzTqiUaVHH">pic.twitter.com/IzTqiUaVHH</a></p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1438690453222825986?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The stuff about Ric Flair's infamous antics during the flight isn't that surprising since even both WWE and ESPN mentioned that being a habit of his before in recent shows they've produced but what made Dark Side's episode way more damaging was them managing to actually get the flight attendant who was harassed by him for their show. That turned his antics from being something of an immature gag and chuckle to something way more serious in tone.

Only reason the current heat on Flair isn't even bigger is due to Dreamer taking some of the spotlight away because of his moronic takes over the incident.

You watch that cartoon and its somewhere between a consensual laugh that the flight attendant initiated or at least consented to or an in character boast by Flair. Having not seen the DOSTR episode yet I'm assuming its a shit load darker than that.

[M-A-G]

If this show brings an end to the business because enough people are just disgusted with the stuff like this episode covered, I'm all for it.

[BigCrippyZ]

You can’t blame the audience for off-screen incidents.
I love wrestling but I’m not putting old men on a pedestal when it comes down to this sort of thing.
I fully expect Shawn Michaels to get what’s coming to him soon enough. I mean you can only shave so many heads after date rape before somebody speaks up in front of a camera that films HD.

They’ll find a victim eventually.

Hell, unlike Nerfect here, I'm not putting a young person on a pedestal or giving them an excuse, when it comes to sexual assault, violence, or harassment, no matter when or how long ago it was.

You know... because somehow Lesnar's behavior might somehow have "an explanation for why", even if it's "not an excuse", because he was "he was basically an impressionable kid in a ridiculous culture".

Damn. If only Lesnar had been gifted with both the necessary character AND the ability to actually physically stop the bullshit he was witnessing. Too bad as an actual adult in a difficult situation he only had the physical skills and not the character and balls to do the right thing, never mind not actually allegedly participating in it.

Fuck off with that bullshit, Nerfect, you pathetic, moron, POS, hypocrite.

[Sting Fan]

Just watched... Man... What a watch.

The airhostess was so genuine in her approach, struck me during her Hall section she said she was afraid then backtracked for fear it was too strong of a word. Im 6 Foot tall, 115 KG and if a guy the size of Hall grabbed me on a flight full of his mates and threatened me mid Atlantic I would be shitting myself!

As well as the obvious things said about people RVD saying he saw Flair accosting (for lack of a stronger term?) the Airhostess and doing nothing is extremely disappointing to say the least.

The Airhostesses being present while Flairs carrying on his "act" mid aisle is bad but I can see how you might in that toxic culture let it go but watching him corner her and proposition her naked is well and truly across the line.

Jim Ross seems genuinely upset and remorseful that he was in charge of that culture while also sounding somewhat powerless to fix it. How do you fix a culture like that when the "made guys" get a pass...

[Fignuts]

Dreamer's apology comes off like that of a corporate entity.

[drave]

All this stuff is just zapping my enthusiasm for wrestling. Not so much as what they did. More that this is going to be a gigantic topic that's not going away which will and already is turning into a witch hunt




This is why the show will be dropped / canceled. They will start to run with stories that "get too close" and "fuck you" money will win.

[Bad News Gertner]

Like digging an old clip from a Brutus Beefcake interview lol. Brutus also said in that interview that he was white hot as a heel before the barber gimmick and the barber gimmick ruined him.

[Gerard]

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[Jordan]

It's okay Jericho has FORGIVEN Tommy Dreamer on Instagram!

[Gerard]

It's okay Jericho has FORGIVEN Tommy Dreamer on Instagram!

Is that like the equivilant of saying "nigger" and going to the lord of black people Al Sharpton and asking for forgiveness? :shifty:

[M-A-G]

Chris Jericho is the Emperor of the Back of the Bus.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I love that people blame Sid because Arn is a better in ring worker

This is one of the weirdest things about wrestling fandom. If you’re good in the ring and people like your on-air content, people will make all sorts of weird assumptions about your personality. It happens all the time, and it happens with entire promotions too.

If this show brings an end to the business because enough people are just disgusted with the stuff like this episode covered, I'm all for it.

Agreed. Like the circus, an industry just being too carny to survive is not impossible.

Hell, unlike Nerfect here, I'm not putting a young person on a pedestal or giving them an excuse, when it comes to sexual assault, violence, or harassment, no matter when or how long ago it was.

You know... because somehow Lesnar's behavior might somehow have "an explanation for why", even if it's "not an excuse", because he was "he was basically an impressionable kid in a ridiculous culture".

Damn. If only Lesnar had been gifted with both the necessary character AND the ability to actually physically stop the bullshit he was witnessing. Too bad as an actual adult in a difficult situation he only had the physical skills and not the character and balls to do the right thing, never mind not actually allegedly participating in it.

Fuck off with that bullshit, Nerfect, you pathetic, moron, POS, hypocrite.

Hahaha, there’s no way you’re an actual lawyer.

* You’ve never displayed any actual knowledge that isn’t general knowledge or easily accessible over Google.

* You’re incapable of making a reasonable argument and let your immature and insecure bias overtake every point you ever make.

* You can barely even read or interpret what people have said and why.

I wasn’t defending Brock, you muppet. I was answering #fan’s actual question and explaining why people are more mad at a 50-whatever man talking shit in 2021 than a 24 year old kid in his first month or so in a new job then.

You are a perfect example of what Gertner was talking about re: Arn/Sid. If it were an AEW wrestler who did any of those things, you actually wouldn’t condemn it at all. You hate Vince/WWE so much, because you’re still a mark who falls for the babyface/heel paradigm, you actually latch onto gross shit like this to defend your insecure fandom and target people you want to see fail. Don’t you ever call ANYONE else a hypocrite.

You’re a fake lawyer, a fake person, a bad take and riddled with bad taste. Every time to try and mouth off to me, I absolutely destroy you. Even people in the AEW thread admit you’re an embarrassment to the fandom. Stop trying to hang with the big boys. You are just not fucking smart enough.

This is why the show will be dropped / canceled. They will start to run with stories that "get too close" and "fuck you" money will win.

Nah. They covered Vince McMahon covering up a murder. People seem to be rabid and ready for this sort of thing.

It's okay Jericho has FORGIVEN Tommy Dreamer on Instagram!

Jericho himself is going to end up canceled one day, so he better just keep watching his own shadow, to be honest.

[Seanny One Ball]

I love that people blame Sid because Arn is a better in ring worker


I think people just preferred Arn as a person too.
The version I’ve heard the most is Sid turns up at Arn’s door with a chair arm or leg and when he gets there he throws it away but Arn comes out and stabs him with some scissors.
Sid gets hold of the scissors and just pokes Arn full of holes until he nearly kills him.

[Sepholio]

Interesting that they mentioned that Vince and Linda were on board the plane. Multiple people referenced them being there in the episode if I'm not mistaken. But the reality was they weren't even on that flight. Makes me wonder what else was embellished for the sake of the show tbh.

[Sepholio]

I imagine they were probably merging multiple plane ride stories all into the plane ride from hell. Seems like they are getting things mixed up with the flight that Vince and Kurt Angle were fighting on and when Michael Hayes was so shit faced he tried to pee on Linda or whatever.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Hmm. A famous rich, white dude gets accused of sexual harassment. I wonder if his fans will try to discredit the victim

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh boy…

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

She might’ve done some bad things, therefore Flair waving his dick at her and possibly forcing to touch it while cornering her is ok

[xrodmuc316]

Oh boy…

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Like it or not, but that itself will be enough for some people to assume it was nothing but a cash grab. Its unfortunate but discrediting the accuser is commonplace.

[Bad News Gertner]

Dreamer was right!

#FreeDreamer

[Seanny One Ball]

I bet robbing antique shops consistently leads to irreplaceable damages.

Hang her.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Gotta discredit those victims.

[#1-norm-fan]

Based on this new evidence, Tommy Dreamer’s TPWW Thursday Night Watch-along suspension has been lifted.

[Sepholio]

Tommy Dreamer was an innocent victim of cancel culture and his glory will be restored on TPWW THURSDAY NIGHT MULKEYMANIA!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Can we just cancel Tommy Dreamer anyway?

[Jordan]

So it is true that Ric didn't make her touch his penis and that Scott Hall didn't lick her or grab for her boobs. And it is true that Tommy Dreamer fights for the rights of everyman. This woman is a NEWS REPORTED BURGLAR, she DOES NOT TELL THE TRUTH.

[#1-norm-fan]

She is banned from all future TPWW Thursday Night Watch-alongs.

[Big Vic]

Wait guys this proves that Ric did it

https://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/celebrity/sports/ric-flair-0

[Jordan]

Goddamn now I am torn, did Flair do it because he was accused of assault and damage to a car? Or did the flight attendant LIE because she was accused of BUGLARY, a heinous crime worse than some assaults?

And how does Tommy Dreamer begin to build a life in a post canceled society if indeed Ric Flair did not do it because the flight attendant has a serious criminal history?

Will Dreamer be able to return to his employers or with the IMPACT of his words have left a bruise too deep?

Will Shawn Michaels be remembered as the HEART BREAK RAPIST? Or will the stories amount to nothing because he is a "made man"?

[drave]

TUNE IN NEXT WEEK TO FIND OUT THE ANSWERS TO THESE BURNING QUESTIONS AND MORE!!!1!!one!

[Gerard]

Oh boy…

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Maybe she was in looking for a cock like flairs, antique....:shifty:

[#1-norm-fan]

Goddamn now I am torn, did Flair do it because he was accused of assault and damage to a car? Or did the flight attendant LIE because she was accused of BUGLARY, a heinous crime worse than some assaults?

Ric has proudly assaulted men for decades on television while telling us straight up that he’s the dirtiest player in the game. This only proves he’s a man to be believed!

[GD]

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[Juan]

Flair is in hot water again. This time it has to do with Kanyon

[slik]

Good episode on Kanyon, last 10 minutes pretty emotional stuff

[xrodmuc316]

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Only a wrestling shoot goes from a serious talk about racism to "Hey who all fucked Melina?" :rofl:

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Great episode that brings back a lot of memories with both Mortis, who I thought looked great when I was a kid, and the DDP gimmick he ran hitting Diamond Cutters on randoms throughout the building.

James Mitchell made it tough trying to get through. Especially at the end where they all admit to knowing he was probably going soon. Really sad.

[Jordan]

I feel like James Mitchell was leaving out a likely important element of the story. Drugs. No way those two guys were hanging out in a house for days and days on end and "not sleeping for 3 or 4 nights in a row" without doing meth or something. I think that my favorite part of this one was hearing from Cage and The Bucks but otherwise I didn't enjoy this particular story. Also I feel like they referenced "gay wrestlers" and then showed a bunch of characters that were "gay" but the performers weren't, like Goldust and Adonis. I don't know about Adonis but I assumed he was straight. Anyway, just not a great story to be honest. Felt like with Mitchell controlling the narrative mostly that it comes off like his version of the Kanyon story.

[Bad News Gertner]

Gonna watch this weekend. Does this just turn into a WWE bash fest? Looking at the talking heads on this show, I can see that happening.

[Jordan]

I didn't think that it came off like a WWE bash fest. Really just depicted a very conflicted man with a lot of mental health issues.

[ron the dial]

it really didn't come off as a wwe bash fest at all. they kinda glossed over whatever taker stuff people were thinking was gonna drop.

[#1-norm-fan]

As much as I love a good WWE takedown, I didn’t think there would be much of one here. From Kanyon’s Stern interview, his claim of homophobia leading to his firing seemed based on nothing in particular. If there was some specific bad shit to be told I think he would have been all over it in the interview.

[Evil Vito]

Not related to Dark Side but Kanyon related so I’ll throw it here: I remember during his “Positively Kanyon” run mocking DDP they showed Kanyon doing a book signing and the announcers were baffled at the enormous line to get his autograph. Only for the cameras to pan around and show a sign that the autograph promised a free drink voucher. That was great.

[Stu Hart]

:naughty:https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x84endk

[Sepholio]

....people are trying to cancel Cena for when he said Kanyon wasnt that good at wresting.

[Bad News Gertner]

AEW fans are such tards

[#1-norm-fan]

This is one of those times where I wanna go on Twitter and see people’s logic behind something but I know I’ll just come away annoyed and it won’t be worth it.

[ron the dial]

it's never worth it

[#1-norm-fan]

The temptation though...

[M-A-G]

....people are trying to cancel Cena for when he said Kanyon wasnt that good at wresting.

That'll show him...you know, that guy who said those things a lifetime ago and is already out of wrestling with his millions of dollars and a lucrative movie career ahead of him. Yeah! That'll learn him good to have an opinion on something as vital to the fabric of Americana as scripted entertainment!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

How are the Young Cucks the Trumpian Evangelical Christians trying to say they don't hate homosexuals?

Superkick that shit foh.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

....people are trying to cancel Cena for when he said Kanyon wasnt that good at wresting.

Well he was lying under the directive of Vince or Steph. Kanyon was tremendous.

[ron the dial]

How are the Young Cucks the Trumpian Evangelical Christians trying to say they don't hate homosexuals?

Superkick that shit foh.
you are a fucking idiot.

[Loose Cannon]

I didn't realize Cage or the Bucks were good friends of Kanyon's, so it was interesting to hear their stories. Just like 75% of the guys from his era, Kanyon had those "demons" to fight with. The James Mitchell stories depicted him as a crazed lunatic and like someone already mentioned, I'm sure drugs were a huge part of his mind and mood.

I don't think the WWE buried him because he was gay and I'm sure his downfall in WWE was due to other factors behind the scenes that got a lot of guys released in those days.

Cena and especially Flair (what a tool this guy continues to be on the show lol) were kind of dickheads to him. I kind of get Cena defending his company, but Flair is just an ass kissing dickhead at that point. He probably called in and was told to be harsh because needed the money

[Bad News Gertner]

Kanyon was a big fish in a smaller pond in WCW during the height of his run. They were desperate for anything to work.. There were so many A list too stars during Kanyon's WWE time that he got swallowed up. Plus he like alot of those guys that moved over from WCW had that "WCW stink" to them in WWE's eyes. Look at how they treated all of those guys.

And I LOVED Kanyon going back to his Men at Work team with Mark Starr

[drave]

Who betta than Kanyon?





mortis

[Bad News Gertner]

Did they mentioned Kanyon using the Mortis gimmick at WWE House Shows and it possibly coming back?

[ron the dial]

not that i recall

[Seanny One Ball]

That was a mediocre episode of I’m being honest. The story was pretty well told but they really scraped the barrel for talking heads. The AEW people don’t add anything at all. Sinister Minister provided virtually all of the important information so DDP and Jericho were essentially just there to say “I knew him but I didn’t know much about him.”

I like how Sinister Minister’s whole thing is “Remember in the 90’s when not outing a gay guy meant you had to endure regular punishment throttlings?”
Sinister Minister went up in my estimations though, for pulling a gun on the gay and not saying “Do you feel lucky, punk?!” because I feel that would be a hateful cheap shot well beneath a man of the cloth.

[Fignuts]

Who betta than Kanyon?





mortis

This. Loved the mortis gimmick so much. Probably one of my favorite attires in all of wrestling. It was just bad timing for it to work.

[GD]

As someone who didn't know much about Kanyon, this was a very informative episode.

[Seanny One Ball]

It made me like Kanyon a lot less.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Why

[Seanny One Ball]

He had one of his oldest and best friends in fear for his life just because he knew he was gay.
It’s a shame he felt like being gay was such a terrible sin but let’s be honest, that was his problem. You don’t try and kill your friends.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

That’s not why. He was diagnosed with being bipolar. My dads sister was bipolar. Same issues where she’d randomly snap and go on a tear to the person closest by. She destroyed countless relationships with friends and family before getting diagnosed and treated and by that point it was too late for her.

Maybe you missed that part of the ep but that was his issue.

[Seanny One Ball]

It’s actually all conjecture mate.

I just prefer my conjecture.

[Seanny One Ball]

Plus I’m not giving lunatics a free pass. He was healthy enough mentally to apologise so why not see a doctor ffs.

Idiot.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Because mental health 20-30 years ago wasn’t viewed, understood and accepted the way it is now? My aunt wasn’t diagnosed until a decade ago after she’d destroyed every bridge she ever built. Not to mention the stigma that used to come with mental health for people in Kanyon’s generation.

[Stu Hart]

I can’t be the only one who jerked off furiously during this episode…anyone?

[Seanny One Ball]

Because mental health 20-30 years ago wasn’t viewed, understood and accepted the way it is now? My aunt wasn’t diagnosed until a decade ago after she’d destroyed every bridge she ever built. Not to mention the stigma that used to come with mental health for people in Kanyon’s generation.



Pretty sure depression had a lot of viable treatment options even in the late 90’s.

[Seanny One Ball]

Kudos on pulling out the mad auntie though.

I’d probably just turn my back on a wrong ‘un because it’s easy and appropriate. I wouldn’t turn them into a druggo too.

[XL]

It wasn’t his auntie, he clearly states it was his dad’s sister.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FMW episode consultant <a href="https://twitter.com/BAHUFMW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BAHUFMW</a> curated his Top 5 matches to watch before the FMW episode drops Thurs on <a href="https://twitter.com/VICETV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@vicetv</a>: <a href="https://t.co/CbklEYp1yQ">https://t.co/CbklEYp1yQ</a><br><br>1. Onita vs Terry Funk ‘93<br>2. Exploding Pool Match ‘94<br>3. Onita vs Hayabusa ‘95<br>4. Kudo vs Toyoda ‘96<br>5. Hayabusa/Tanaka vs Funk/Pogo ‘96 <a href="https://t.co/bzfe2k7n7U">pic.twitter.com/bzfe2k7n7U</a></p>&mdash; Dark Side of the Ring (@DarkSideOfRing) <a href="https://twitter.com/DarkSideOfRing/status/1442559499810705415?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

#ClassicWrestling watch along?

[Triple A]

Would love to watch those...

[Bad News Gertner]

I've seen all but #4. They are pretty crazy. I remember ordering FMW and Big Japan comp videos off tape list in the late 90s

[Seanny One Ball]

Hayabusa looked so fucked just before he died...

Honestly the most depressing image search ever.

[drave]

Did Ken beat him?

[erickman]

sabu and mike vs the yakusa, that is a good ep.

[Bad News Gertner]

FMW episode was pretty good. Still haven't seen the Kanyon one.

[Seanny One Ball]

The Kanyon episode won’t blow your mind.

[Seanny One Ball]

FMW episode was a lot better than I thought it would be.
Onita is a cartoonishly nefarious Jap... Terry Funk is just a sweet little old man now... damn

[Seanny One Ball]

Liked the bit where The Sheik nearly died. Very funny stuff.

Idiots the lot of them.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Johnny K-9 episode this week. Had no idea who he was and I just read his Wikipedia entry. Holy shit I am all in on this episode.

[#1-norm-fan]

Apparently he was an insanely nice guy despite... Well, you’ll see.

[Bad News Gertner]

He wrestled in my city quite a bit for Border City Wrestling. I have a couple friends who worked and hung out with him. Everytime I've asked about him their immediate response is "dude, you wouldn't believe it of I told you". I know AL Snow has some stories and I hope he's on.

This episode is going to be incredible.

[Sepholio]

Johnny K-9 episode this week. Had no idea who he was and I just read his Wikipedia entry. Holy shit I am all in on this episode.

Just read the wiki too. Whoa mama. That dude was livin la vida loca.

[Seanny One Ball]

I have been waiting for this since he was profiled in a Crime In Sports podcast long before they decided to profile him on DSOTR. They got two or three hours out of him and it was just wild. This will easily be one of the better episodes if they have lined up any of his old biker gang.

I’m excited for it.

[Juan]

Wild episode. Was not familiar with K9 at all before this.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Me neither. Had no idea who was. What a life. Honest to god shocked to find out he only died recently. Given how the story was going i was surprised he made it to 2000. This was one of the better eps this season.

[erickman]

good thing he did not last at smoky mt wrestling he might have joined the piecemakers

[Seanny One Ball]

That was a fantastic episode.

It had the best manly wife so far, the most reasonable ex cop, some ex biker said “That Hulk Hogan fella” to prove he knew his stuff and Lance Storm fucking cried!
Lots of great re-enactments too.

Truly an episode to savour.

[Seanny One Ball]

Man that was so good...

They really need to do an episode on Chyna at some point. I’m not sure why they haven’t yet. They would easily fill two episodes with that topic.

[James Steele]

Man that was so good...

They really need to do an episode on Chyna at some point. I’m not sure why they haven’t yet. They would easily fill two episodes with that topic.

Vice did do a doc about her last year alive. Pretty fucked.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Oh I didn’t know that. I’ll never to see if that’s on demand thru their app.

[Seanny One Ball]

Thanks for the heads up. I’ll try and find it.

[Bad News Gertner]

Fuck I gotta catch up on these.

[Seanny One Ball]

Chris Jericho might not be cool anymore but damn does he look great for his age

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Found the Chyna doc. It’s from their vice versa series.

[Jordan]

I am just thinking about episodes for further seasons...

Rob Feinstein/Ring of Honor: To Catch a Predator - this is a huge story that seems to have been lost in time, let's dig this dirt up! I'd love to see a good story on the origins of ROH as well.

ECW - Very broad topic that could probably be an entire season let alone a double episode. I'd like to see The Darkside guys spin on ECW.

Zandig - Obviously a niche choice and very unlikely but this guy is fucking interesting. I don't know a lot about him but I do know the story where they tried to interview him for Nick Gage or someone else. Dude is insane and probably has a lot of horror stories.

Hulk Hogan - He's just a giant fraud so a big expose shitting on him would probably be really fun to watch.

CM Punk - Not likely to happen now that he's in AEW but I could see a CM Punk/WWE medical story episode.

[Bad News Gertner]

It's obscure but I'd love them to take a deep dive into the Inoki vs Muhammad Ali match and all the shenanigans.

[Seanny One Ball]

Is it obscure?

I don’t need any more wasted episodes. Let’s get to the meat of it.

Plane crashes are more interesting than plane rides from hell. Ric Flair could win all of his sympathy back in one episode.

[Bad News Gertner]

Not for us, but the average fan has zero idea about that match.

[Seanny One Ball]

I dispute your take!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It’s pretty famous in wrestling circles, but are you going to tell me “World’s Most Famous Athlete Has Career Ruined By Japan’s Most Famous Knee Kicker” isn’t a story? If so, I question your judgment.

[Bad News Gertner]

Chuck Wepner is still alive and he fought Andre that night. Different location. Inoki is still kicking. Stan Hansen is alive and well. Ivan Putski and Kevin Sullivan.There's pieces of the puzzle still remaining

[Bad News Gertner]

It’s pretty famous in wrestling circles, but are you going to tell me “World’s Most Famous Athlete Has Career Ruined By Japan’s Most Famous Knee Kicker” isn’t a story? If so, I question your judgment.

I think people know the match but not all the behind the scenes craziness.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I think there’s a decent argument that Ali is the most famous athlete in the history of the world. You can’t tell his story without talking about how Inoki fucked up his legs

[Bad News Gertner]

100% yes. Maybe Michal Jordan.

[weather vane]

Prob MJ.

[Tom Guycott]

Hulk Hogan - He's just a giant fraud so a big expose shitting on him would probably be really fun to watch.


Pretty sure this won't happen until after Hogan is dead. Then, we're guaranteed to have at least three different docs about how full of shit he was outside of also being a worldwide pop culture phenomenon.

[#1-norm-fan]

Plane crashes are more interesting than plane rides from hell. Ric Flair could win all of his sympathy back in one episode.

He could. Until the episode airs and it’s finally revealed that the plane crashed because Ric was drunkenly waving his dick in the pilot’s face.

[James Steele]

Nobody saw that (meat)swerve coming.

[Seanny One Ball]

He could. Until the episode airs and it’s finally revealed that the plane crashed because Ric was drunkenly waving his dick in the pilot’s face.



The man lost his ability to take back bumps, the people will forgive!

[weather vane]

Love Luna so much. Underrated.

[Bad News Gertner]

Mad Maxine made an appearance I see. She could have been something.

[Bad News Gertner]

Butcher Vachon as well! Man do these guys ever bust their asses getting awesome talking heads

[Juan]

Great episode :y:

[Seanny One Ball]

Butcher Vachon thinks girls with tough guy relatives don’t get abused.

They do, often by their tough guy relatives.

[Juan]

20 minutes into the Vice/Chyna documentary and I’m already tearing up.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I finished it and it was sad as fuck

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It also highlights how full of shit Triple H is about why Chyna wasn’t inducted. Sunny was inducted in 2011. She was doing nudes online at that point. It ain’t hard to Google her and add the word nude at the end and see everything she’s got. The fact they kept out arguably their most transcendent women’s star for porn when is hilarious and I wish somebody would call his dumb ass out on it.

[James Steele]

I imagine the entire shitshow surrounding her drug use and the reality shows didn't help either. Chyna was a far bigger star than Sunny. Nobody outside the wrestling bubble remembers Sunny.

[Seanny One Ball]

The AOL people sure do!

[XL]

And to be fair there’s a world of difference between nudes and full porn. The company sanctioned full nudes for Chyna, that’s not the issue.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Let’s not pretend WWE has a morality clause when it comes to inducting people with sketchy/shady/outright shitty pasts or is above ignoring/sweeping previously heinous acts. There reason Chyna isn’t in the hall is because they don’t/didn’t want her in or want her there.

[weather vane]

Chyna doc is sad. Too bad. She deserves better.

[erickman]

porn wrestling tonight should get a lot of viewers tonight.

[Seanny One Ball]

9wqK_HD0rps

This came up on my YouTube feed and it’s pretty good shit.
Look up Jim Wilson, in retrospect this poor bastard never stood a chance.

I wonder who the gay promoter was...

[Seanny One Ball]

Hahaha Thunderbolt Patterson just showed up to slag off the promoters.
Wasn’t he attempting a lawsuit over discrimination at some point?

Hmmm

[Seanny One Ball]

Dr D looks like a really big Jeff Jarrett in low resolution...

[Bad News Gertner]

9wqK_HD0rps

This came up on my YouTube feed and it’s pretty good shit.
Look up Jim Wilson, in retrospect this poor bastard never stood a chance.

I wonder who the gay promoter was...

Jim Barnett

[Bad News Gertner]

This needs to be shown tonight

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[Seanny One Ball]

Thunderbolt Patterson sort of making the most sense by a long way here...

Everyone else just doing promos and wrestler schtick...

Jim Wilson sitting there thinking “they called me a fag”...

[Seanny One Ball]

Jim Barnett



I was taking the piss, my boy.

[Seanny One Ball]

Lou Albano comes on and says “This guy moaning about black” lol.

He forgot to say “being”.
Now he’s on about Bobo Brazil and denying blades exist.

[Seanny One Ball]

XPW episode is actually great great shit man...so many twists and turns. New info on old shit is always quality.

That’s what this show is all about!

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Great episode. Knew of XPW by name only. Didn’t know they got as “big” as they did or that they were buy a porn guy. Interesting stuff. I hate that the season will eventually end.

[Bad News Gertner]

Starting to catch up. Finished the FMW and the Kanyon episode. My God the part where Cena and Flair call into Stern to tell Kanyon he isn't any good is a tough watch. You can tell it crushed him.

[Bad News Gertner]

Also, James Mitchell not being a manager in a major wrestling promotion saddens me. He's so great.

[Bad News Gertner]

Watching the Luna episode. I remember Kevin Nash saying on a shoot interview that he took one of Luna's pills at a club and was out cold lol.

[erickman]

Also, James Mitchell not being a manager in a major wrestling promotion saddens me. He's so great.

since vince don't like managers that killed him for wwe.

[James Steele]

Managers need to make a comeback. They work wonders for guys especially the meatheads who can't talk that Vince loves. (See Brock/Heyman or Lashley/MVP).

[Bad News Gertner]

Finished the Johnny K-9 episode.

Great episode, really enjoyed it

[xrodmuc316]

SEASON 4 ADAM COLE BAYBAY!!

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[Mr. Nerfect]

There was no rise. It’s just The Fall of All Elite.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Watching the Grizzly Smith episode for the first time. Jesus Christ.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Insane how well adjusted Rockin Robin appears

[Bad News Gertner]

I loved how that episode made Robin out to be this amazing wrestler. She was terrible.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We’re back with these 10 all-new episodes. <br><br>Season 4 premieres May 30, 10P on <a href="https://twitter.com/VICETV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@vicetv</a>. <a href="https://t.co/LCxWBXhTtC">pic.twitter.com/LCxWBXhTtC</a></p>&mdash; Dark Side of the Ring (@DarkSideOfRing) <a href="https://twitter.com/DarkSideOfRing/status/1651225164258893829?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Ready for Jannetty

[Bad News Gertner]

Still no Chris Adams :(

[Bad News Gertner]

Vice Media Group is reportedly filing for bankruptcy if they can't find a buyer

[erickman]

well it starts tonight let's hope vice hangs around a little longer

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Even though I kinda already knew it, it’s really a bummer to hear how much of a piece of shit Paul Heyman was running ECW.

[erickman]

good thing wwe don't let there people on this show or we would see paul on defending the crap he pulled

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Cornette breaking was pretty powerful. The most cynical man in the business crying about someone is saying something.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh shit they got Magnum TA for his own episode next week. Let’s go

[erickman]

that should be good

[Bad News Gertner]

How was the episode. I had baseball tonight and couldn't watch.

[erickman]

How was the episode. I had baseball tonight and couldn't watch.
it was sad all the interviewees cried at the last segment cornett storm and pricherd.

[Bad News Gertner]

Caught the Candido episode. Just fucking sad.

[weather vane]

Didn’t love that episode tbh.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Really looking forward to the Magnum TA episode tonight

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It’s a tragic story, but he’s also still here to talk about it. Let’s go.

[Bad News Gertner]

How was the episode. I work at the office till 830 so I'm always missing them.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It just started. Calm down.

[Bad News Gertner]

Excuses

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The Magnum Story was only frustrating because I would have loved to see where his career went. I'm guessing he wouldn't have saved JCP, but he was just such a fun guy to watch that he'd have done some amazing things. That said, in the end, they definitely made it into a more feel-good story. And you really can't make it anything else because the guy seems so well adjusted (although I'm sure I'll find out he's some asshole)

[Seanny One Ball]

The Magnum TA story had no place in Dark Side Of The Ring, and it appears this season is more about sad stories than dark ones.
I aint seen the third episode yet.

[Fignuts]

Is it bad that during the accident portion, all I could think was "wow, this track goes hard"?

[xrodmuc316]

They should do an episode about Brutus Beefcake,.just because his face exploding is one hell of a story.

[Seanny One Ball]

See that actually would be a great take to tell.
Bruce Pritchard explained it once and it was so graphic that I genuinely felt sick.

The man’s face imploded. He should be dead. They say it was like trying to repair a war victim.

[Seanny One Ball]

I think I linked Frank Drebin to that story once and he also felt sick.

[Bad News Gertner]

Never really "got" Magnum TA. Didn't get the hype.

He would have floundered in the WWF. Definitely a Crockett guy.

Like he would have gotten a Billy Jack Haynes push

[Fignuts]

People saying he would have changed the face of the industry and keep nwa alive, and here's TA saying he was gonna leave before hitting 30 to go drive nascars lol

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

he probably wasn't making that known, in fairness.

[weather vane]

I think Magnum could have done Lex things. The Magnum Migration.

[erickman]

ready for doink the clown tonight

[erickman]

that was a good ep

[weather vane]

Yeah very good.

[Seanny One Ball]

His obese daughter and ever decreasing quality of ex-lover was excellent. The murder conspiracy by the fatty child is just stupid though. Smackheads love smack.

[erickman]

ready for the junk yard dog

[erickman]

the women pay to have sex with him

[erickman]

his song grab them cakes

[Bad News Gertner]

Oh shit I keep forgetting it's on.

[Seanny One Ball]

Pretty lame episode to be honest.

[erickman]

Pretty lame episode to be honest.

yeah this season has hot had a real good ep this season yet. this ep had a few gems the cornett gun story and the hookers paid jyd.

[Bad News Gertner]

New Jack needed to be alive to tell his JYD owing him money for weed and confronting him in ECW

[Seanny One Ball]

…story

[Seanny One Ball]

His finish should have been The Big Bump