Dark Side of The Ring Discussion Thread (Warning: Spoilers)

[Fignuts]

wtf Koko doesn't look older than 30

[Seanny One Ball]

He looked a lot older than thirty when I watched it.

[xrodmuc316]

New Jack needed to be alive to tell his JYD owing him money for weed and confronting him in ECW

LOL yep it was $300. New Jack was ready to fight a legend over $300! :rofl:

[Seanny One Ball]

How much do you think they were getting paid exactly?

Of course he wanted to kick his head in.

[erickman]

looks like no new one tonight bunch of reruns till 9 then they are playing some old movie

[Bad News Gertner]

Watched the Matt Borne and JYD episodes. Both were good. There just isn't enough meat on the bone though.

Should have done a Chris Adams episode!

[Bad News Gertner]

Koko sounds and reminds me of Gary Coleman

[erickman]

tonight is bret hart heavy.

[Bad News Gertner]

Was the Adonis one tonight?

[erickman]

Was the Adonis one tonight?

yep an it was not that good

[Bad News Gertner]

Blah. That sucks. I love Adrian Adonis.

[erickman]

bret made it about bret

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

bret made it about bret

sounds like an amazing ep to me.

[Sepholio]

bret made it about bret

How many times did he complain about Goldberg?

[drave]

And Vince?

[drave]

I dunno why, but I had this thing in my head where I hear Bret call Goldberg "William" all pissed off like.


"Thing were good until WILL-YUM decided to boot me in the head eh"

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Frankly, if Bret didn't shoehorn in a spiteful Goldberg anecdote, was he really even officially in the episode?

[drave]

He should just be an honorary Hart family member at this stage, really.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Nah. Bret's the man. Only dumb Americans (and Gertner, who's from Windsor, which means you're really from nowhere) don't get him. Oh, and if you're Canadian (or from another country like the UK) and don't get Bret, you're also dumb.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

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[Sepholio]

Shane McMahon throws better punches than that.

[Bad News Gertner]

His punch kind of look like girls punches. Very limp wristed downward motion.

Shawn Michaels has way better punches

[Sepholio]

Exactly. Those are the same punches that every white girl fighting in a worldstar video uses.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

If you ask Vince I bet he’d say Bret throws a pretty good punch.

[Bad News Gertner]

Bret connected though. Terrible working punch there.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Best punches in the business.

[Seanny One Ball]

bret made it about bret




That is the exact opposite of what happened.
Bret Hart did better than 90% of the sources they use on DSOTR specifically because he talked entirely about the subject at hand and didn’t pull any of that weird “I knew something strange was a-brewin” that everyone else does.

Even Adonis’ wife was trying to be more interesting and mysterious with her claims about Adonis doing things he never did right before he died. I bet he did them all of the time and she’s just a boring bitch who took thirty five years to find a way to make the man’s death about her.

It was a better episode actually, still not very dark or in-line with the previous seasons but more interesting than JYD and Matt Borne.

[Seanny One Ball]

Who’s fat daughter was it that made crazy claims about a girlfriend od’ing her dad… was that Doink?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

My favourite ep so far (out of all the seasons) was Johnny K9/Bruiser Bedlam. My parents live in Hamilton. so there was that extra bit of investment. Plus, there was something very "dramaturgic" about that guy.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Who’s fat daughter was it that made crazy claims about a girlfriend od’ing her dad… was that Doink?

It was, and she was.

[Seanny One Ball]

There are a lot of fruity family members in the show, but the conspiracy theories are secondary to body shape for me. The ex wives are almost always hags by now, especially Pillman’s. Most of them hooked up with a pill-man at some point anyway.

I remember Warrior’s ex wife being pretty hot for an old broad with fake tits but I’m a deeply damaged man.

[Bad News Gertner]

Watching the Adonis Dark Side. Holy shit, Danny Spivey! Awesome episode

[Seanny One Ball]

Yeah that Spivey story was great, never heard that one before.

[Bad News Gertner]

I've heard the Spivey story before from George Steele. He said that Adonis's head swelled up the size of a balloon after the fight

[erickman]

ready for the butcher

[erickman]

grew up like junkyard having to piss in a can

[erickman]

that was a good one

[drave]

Watching the Adonis Dark Side. Holy shit, Danny Spivey! Awesome episode




I just caught this one last night. One thing that kept sticking out to me was how much Spivey and Steve Austin looked alike with the blond hair.


Holy fucking SHIT at that uppercut though. Fucked up that man's life.

[Bad News Gertner]

Spivey used to be a collector for the mob. He's not one to fuck with.

[erickman]

cornett talks about the abdul the butcher ep it is funny as hell

[Seanny One Ball]

I’m guessing he sides with the elderly virus spreader and condemns Hannibal in a way that makes you wonder if Corny is one of those AIDS kink people. Admittedly Hannibal does suck just as much ass as Abdullah but in a different way.

It was a pretty lame episode, just lots of talking about a guy who had gross tits and no athletic ability. This season has been very poor in comparison to the others.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

There's only SO much you can talk about he Darkside of Wrestling (and anything, really) before the wrong eyebrows are raised, and suddenly it's hard to talk about anything of substance.

The Adonis episode was pretty interesting. Erickman's summation that Bret made it about himself was fucking ridiculous. Dude must really hate Bret.

[Seanny One Ball]

That would be fair enough if this show didn’t make its reputation by shining light on the boldest of accusations every season until now. I mean Abdullah says “I don’t want to talk about it” and there goes any and all discussion about the man spreading a blood disease in the most negligent way possible.

They’ve openly trashed so many careers by now that to pull the reins before they trampled Abdullah was pretty shocking. Why do an Abdullah episode at all if they aren’t even going to talk to him about it?

Terrible episode, terrible season.

[weather vane]

Hannibal so funny. What a human. Freak. Partied with him and Honky Tonk Man til 6am in their hotel room. After he beat up some kid at the bar before and chased down my buddies car like the terminator when they took his cheese. Long story. T1000.

[erickman]

i hope bam bams ep will be good, 2 thirds of the triad has been on darkside of the ring

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I'm gonna watch the Bam Bam one more as a career retrospective/bio than as a Darkside Of The Ring. Will probably be more enjoyable that way.

[erickman]

taz and ddp is doing a good job on this one

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

That was an interesting ep. Like usual, I feel like they glossed over a fuckload, but the old footage was great.

[erickman]

bash at the beach should be good hard to gloss over. we will get easy e vs russo

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

And it will suck because of those two relentless blowhards.

[Bad News Gertner]

I heard the Bam Bam episode was really good

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I heard the Bam Bam episode was really good

It was nice because the people being interviewed weren't a bunch of morons.

[weather vane]

Hannibal so funny. What a human. Freak. Partied with him and Honky Tonk Man til 6am in their hotel room. After he beat up some kid at the bar before and chased down my buddies car like the terminator when they took his cheese. Long story. T1000.

Annnnnnnnnnd he tried to kill himself. Got out of ICU awhile ago. Yikes.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

TBH Spilly, there is nothing appealing about Hannibal. He comes across as an enormous piece of shit.

It is kind of funny that you partied with that psychopath Honky Tonk Man. That's something that I think we'd all want to do.

[weather vane]

Brought him to my buddies house to grab booze late night. So funny when he walked out to Honky Tonk Man on his front lawn at 2am.

[Bad News Gertner]

Abby episode was pretty bad. Should have done Chris Adams instead

[erickman]

get the f%%k you russo chants ready for tonight

[erickman]

lance storm is the star of tonight's ep

[Bad News Gertner]

BATB episode was awesome lol

[M-A-G]

Why was Bash at the Beach even a topic for this show? What exactly was "dark" about it? Did we really need to shine a spotlight on three of the biggest piles of fuck in the business, all of whom have a tenuous relationship with reality as it is?

[Seanny One Ball]

I like how you say that about far and away the best episode of this series.
I enjoyed that so much more than every bio they have done this time around, at least this was a legitimate “what the fuck just happened” moment in wrestling history. Eric Bischoff was at his malevolent best, somehow managing to look down his nose at everybody despite that nose being crammed up Hulk’s ass. Glorious.

I’m really starting to worry that Vince Russo may be a bit of a fall guy here, he seems to be so annoying that everybody immediately accepts him as the source of any fault but all fingers pointed towards Hogan and The Bisch screwing this particular pooch.

I love grown men bitching like women, but I really really love old men going on diatribes that their memories cannot even be trusted to correctly remember.

That’s what rasslin’ is all about now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Why was Bash at the Beach even a topic for this show? What exactly was "dark" about it? Did we really need to shine a spotlight on three of the biggest piles of fuck in the business, all of whom have a tenuous relationship with reality as it is?

You answered your own question there.

I only have a cursory knowledge of Chris Adams, but after getting a bit more into the history of World Class thanks to the Lapsed Fan’s journey on it, I have to agree with Gertner that Adams is a no-brainer.

Like, at least 3 of the women he shacked up with are dead. And he turned himself in for manslaughter at some point. And how it all ends and who ends up pulling the trigger.

[Bad News Gertner]

You answered your own question there.

I only have a cursory knowledge of Chris Adams, but after getting a bit more into the history of World Class thanks to the Lapsed Fan’s journey on it, I have to agree with Gertner that Adams is a no-brainer.

Like, at least 3 of the women he shacked up with are dead. And he turned himself in for manslaughter at some point. And how it all ends and who ends up pulling the trigger.

Adams super kicked a bartender in Isreal and they had to smuggle him out of the country

He also headbutted the co-pilot of an airplane he was on.

And then there's the way he died.

HOW DO THEY FUCKING GRAHAMS OR ABBY GET AN EPISODE AND NOT ADAMS!!!! GAH!

[erickman]

Adams super kicked a bartender in Isreal and they had to smuggle him out of the country

He also headbutted the co-pilot of an airplane he was on.

And then there's the way he died.

HOW DO THEY FUCKING GRAHAMS OR ABBY GET AN EPISODE AND NOT ADAMS!!!! GAH!

dutch and cornett pushed for the grahams one.tomorows one should be the best one this season

[Seanny One Ball]

They probably can’t do Chris Adams because Stone Cold will sue them the moment his ex wife says they both hit her

[Seanny One Ball]

Jannetty was a bleak episode…

That guy has not got long left to live.

[Bad News Gertner]

I've thought the same about Jake Roberts and Ric Flair. Lol Jannetty will probably end up outliving HBK

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I thought the Marty episode was sort of eh. I didn't gain any meaningful insight into him. He's an interesting guy and a total fkn weirdo. but beyond that it was kind of boring.

[M-A-G]

It would've been something if they had managed to actually get Shawn Michaels as a talking head for the episode.

[Seanny One Ball]

The man has open wounds that look like foot vaginas

[Bad News Gertner]

The John Tenta one was good, although it seemed like they were just going out of their way to make the WWE the villain

[Seanny One Ball]

Tenta’s wife is a fucking nutter. Random singing, reading out things that are clearly not written in love notes… weird broad.

Nothing dark about Tenta.

[Seanny One Ball]

Earl “My twin brother just died but I miss John Tenta more” Hebner

[Seanny One Ball]

The best part was seeing Haku piss himself laughing at The Shockmaster

[Bad News Gertner]

That was hysterical.

"Buff and the Bagwell's" episode this week.

[Bad News Gertner]

Was not expecting the Bagwell episode to be good, but man was it good. Lots of stuff I had totally forgotten about.

Terry Gordy next week

[Big Vic]

I have to catch this, Wrestling docs are the only form of wrestling me and the Mrs's get into.

Didn't know a thing about the Von Erichs until Iron Claw.

(Yes I know that's not a doc)

[Bad News Gertner]

I've still gotta check that out.

[Seanny One Ball]

The Buff Bagwell episode was one of the best that they have done for ages. No wonder he grew up to be such a spastic, his weirdo hillbilly millionaire folks gave him no chance at all.

The Terry Gordy episode was a good mixture of past glory followed by tragedy. I had never seen any clips of that shoot interview post OD but damn, he was just like the smack heads I used to deal with in the mall. There’s only so much humanity and personality left after repeated OD’s and prolonged heavy drug use. Even once they sober up and clean up they are shells of their former selves and frankly society doesn’t want or need them.

I think Gordy probably did himself in on purpose, he’d have known he wasn’t getting back to normal.

[Bad News Gertner]

I didn't realize Gordy died in 2001. I thought it was mid 90s. Like right after his ECW run.

Decent episode


Brutus Beefcake is right under Vince Russo on my list of "voices that immediately make my angry"

I find Beefcake so obnoxious. Amazing episode though. His wife is something else. I always thought the falling out between Hogan and Beefcake was that Beefcake stole a bunch of jewelry from Hogan.

[Seanny One Ball]

Beefcake episode was top notch and it made me like his attitude. I’ve heard all about the face collapse before and it nearly made me throw up so seeing the x-ray was great.

I looked up his wife immediately afterwards and found a clip of Greg Valentine calling her a cunt and laughing. Greg Valentine may look an old woman I know called Marion but he is a great interview.

[Savio]

Fuck gotta watch this tonight.

[Big Vic]

Super hilarious episode (Bagwell).

[Bad News Gertner]

Harley Race this week

[Seanny One Ball]

Harley was ok, Chris Colt was good, Chris Adams was excellent.

Good season so far.

[weather vane]

Chris Adams was awesome.

[Bad News Gertner]

The Chris Adams episode was everything I had hoped for.

Been wanting this episode since it started

Chris Colt episode was awesome

Harley Race episode was eh.

[EIWF]

I need to catch up on the episodes but there not easily available in the UK, last series I was relying on finding them uploaded onto youtube to watch.

[Seanny One Ball]

F2movies.to

You’re welcome

[weather vane]

Liked Sherri’s.

[Seanny One Ball]

What the fuck is up with Sherri’s boy?

The pictures do not match the reality. You can’t do an episode like that and include the exsanguinated son without explanation.

[Bad News Gertner]

Halfway through the Sandman and I have Black Saturday left.

The second half of the season is the best run of shows they've done.

[Seanny One Ball]

Sandman was pretty standard and Black Saturday was sorely missing a bunch of angry old men.

Good season, just not very dark really.

[erickman]

loved the end of black saturday vince busted an forced out of wwe. now dark side is working with wwe they can do vince stories

[Seanny One Ball]

Show me the smoking gun

[Bad News Gertner]

The Sandman episode was alright.

I have Black Saturday left

[Bad News Gertner]

Black Saturday was alright. Nothing that I haven't heard before.

Lots of "Vince killed the Territories" nonsense.

[Seanny One Ball]

Chris Adams and Chris Colt were both good episodes.
The most shocking thing in the whole season was the state that Sherri’s son has gotten himself into since her death.