WWE RAW Weekly Thread

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kinda want to tell y’all what I just heard for tonight. Raw seems to be getting some much needed roster help. Others would disagree, but I think it’s better off staying a surprise. Stamford would get hot w/ me, for the third time this weekend. So sorry, not leaking it but enjoy.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1417261857975545863?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

"Something is going to happen, but I won't tell you"

Something happens: "see? I told you!"

Something doesn't happen: "they must have changed plans"

[erickman]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kinda want to tell y’all what I just heard for tonight. Raw seems to be getting some much needed roster help. Others would disagree, but I think it’s better off staying a surprise. Stamford would get hot w/ me, for the third time this weekend. So sorry, not leaking it but enjoy.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1417261857975545863?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

maybe they spent some money on brock lesner

[slik]

Dallas crowd is very loud for Cena

[Triple A]

This promo sucks so far...

[erickman]

wish he would have wore the peace maker outfit tonight

[slik]

I think it's a good promo

[slik]

matt riddle is annoying...

[slik]

Cena :y:

Matt Riddle :n:

[Evil Vito]

Fuck Matt Riddle

[Triple A]

The Miz freaking unbearable... about to turn this shit off...

[Evil Vito]

Morrison rules

[slik]

show going downhill already...

[erickman]

The Miz freaking unbearable... about to turn this shit off...

is this the 1st time you saw raw in awhile

[slik]

crowd booing Jackson Ryker

[Evil Vito]

Ryker....

I don’t think I’m gonna make it through this show.

[GD]

Why in the world are they sweetening the audio? This is annoying.

[slik]

Wish Lacey Evans would come out right now and hit a Canadian Destroyer on Ryker...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Who’s this Ryker guy? He’s got a good look other than his bald spot. Seems meh in the promo and in the match

Is he related to Zack Ryder

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This match is the worst thing to out in front of a crowd that hasn’t been to a live event in 16 months and whoever came up with this should be ashamed. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a></p>&mdash; Dr. Jakob (@JakobSays) <a href="https://twitter.com/JakobSays/status/1417284835241046017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Did the ref just pull the guy’s hand onto Elias to pin him

[slik]

Sheamus/Humberto AGAIN

[slik]

Did the ref just pull the guy’s hand onto Elias to pin him

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The ref guiding Ryker to victory with the assist <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> <a href="https://t.co/3lUKuXTu0a">pic.twitter.com/3lUKuXTu0a</a></p>&mdash; Jessi Davin (@jessithebuckeye) <a href="https://twitter.com/jessithebuckeye/status/1417285740770349057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

Are they back to not counting Charlotte's 2 NXT reigns in her total number? Just announced her as 11 time champ.

Anyways, we want Becky already!

[xrodmuc316]

Who’s this Ryker guy? He’s got a good look other than his bald spot. Seems meh in the promo and in the match

Is he related to Zack Ryder

He was Gunner in TNA

[slik]

I like Sheamu's entrance tron

[slik]

So far, outside of Cena the first half of Raw has been the same ol, same ol

yawn

[Noid]

The way Sheamus shows off his championship makes him look like a creepo who flashes people on the street.

[Noid]

matt riddle is annoying...

Riddle is the most entertaining part of Raw. Sure he was unbearable at first but his association with Orton has done wonders for his outdated stoner gimmick.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well, the last half of the show will be more newsworthy at least.</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1417294982608789507?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not Michelle there. Don’t tell me he’s coming �� <a href="https://t.co/BJt7mgYBhh">pic.twitter.com/BJt7mgYBhh</a></p>&mdash; joshua (@danasflxapl) <a href="https://twitter.com/danasflxapl/status/1417292005324083200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Evil Vito]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not Michelle there. Don’t tell me he’s coming �� <a href="https://t.co/BJt7mgYBhh">pic.twitter.com/BJt7mgYBhh</a></p>&mdash; joshua (@danasflxapl) <a href="https://twitter.com/danasflxapl/status/1417292005324083200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Would not at all be shocked if Taker shows up post show since he never got a farewell with fans. And he’ll be HOF bound in the same city next year

[xrodmuc316]

Sheamus is the best brawler

[slik]

Time for Goldberg

[Noid]

Sheamus is the best brawler

Sheamus decimating cruiserweights every week is my guilty pleasure.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mick enjoying RAW like everyone else <a href="https://t.co/VTgO65RhYd">https://t.co/VTgO65RhYd</a></p>&mdash; Sliced Wrestling (@SlicedWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/SlicedWrestling/status/1417299938376044547?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

So happy MVP is getting this 2nd chance

He’s great

[Noid]

Keith Lee!

[slik]

Keith Lee returning is a nice surprise

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ricochet back on Main Event after strong shows on Raw and the PPV last week<a href="https://t.co/B585NXiBas">https://t.co/B585NXiBas</a></p>&mdash; SoDuTw (@SoDuTw) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/1417298048619847686?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

Keith Lee jobbing on his return, grandpaberg gets the big spot

[Evil Vito]

Lol

[Evil Vito]

Goldberg is the first wrestler I ever marked for. He’ll always have a special sentiment to me.

But man I’m so bored of seeing him.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Should’ve had Goldberg get squashed tonight and Keith Lee come out after

Goldberg so boring.

[Evil Vito]

Must be nice for Lashley to know he won’t have to work for more than 5 minutes at Summerslam.

[slik]

Lashley will probably lose to Goldberg bc when Goldberg gets the belt ratings go up

[Evil Vito]

Chairshots absolutely nauseating due to the camera work

Kevin Dunn needs to be hit with a car

[Supreme Olajuwon]

19 chairshots and 127 camera cuts for Drew

Come on

Who is saying they still need to do that

[slik]

God awful amount of camera cuts and zooms

[xrodmuc316]

Kross without Scarlet?? What could Vince possibly not like about a hot blonde on his show lol

Maybe Charlotte had a fit that somebody better looking was gonna show up, that is as plausible as anything!

[Noid]

No more words!

[xrodmuc316]

Oh hell yeah, the theme music he should have had like 3 years ago!

[Evil Vito]

Jeff made good on his promise to bring back No More Words when fans returned, nice.

[Evil Vito]

LMFAO

[xrodmuc316]

Matt Hardy WISHES he was this over!

[slik]

LOL Karrion Kross loses his debut in 3 minutes

[Triple A]

Just put it back on after turning it off when The Miz came out

Karrion Kross out... no Scarlett? Going 2 "bomb" big time without Scarlett... terrible

[Evil Vito]

“Welcome to the big leagues, pal”

[Triple A]

LOL Karrion Kross loses his debut in 3 minutes

Jesus did he really lose...

[xrodmuc316]

I still dont know how all of Bray Wyatt's hard work led to Alexa Bliss getting the rub lol

[Triple A]

And did Keith Lee lose in his return also wtf...

[slik]

And did Keith Lee lose in his return also wtf...

yeah he got pinned clean by Lashley

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why would anyone watch NXT tomorrow now? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a></p>&mdash; Joey G. (@TheLuchaJoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheLuchaJoe/status/1417311065931661313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

LOL that was the best fake fall ever

[xrodmuc316]

Also, failing to get Eva Marie in front of the live crowd has to be the biggest flub of the night!

[Triple A]

holy shit Karrion Kross really lost to Jeff Hardy in like 2 mins... jesus man...

[Triple A]

and they split Scarlett from him... lol... holy shit

[xrodmuc316]

I swear Vince must either hate NXT or he might hate Triple H. There is no other explanation for how badly they have utilized pretty much everybody from that show since 2016.

Edit:At least all the men, they have done alright with some of the females since then.

[Triple A]

I really don't understand

[Evil Vito]

Raiders/Styles and Omos again

Same matches over and over and over again

[Noid]

Wrestling fans have some of the worst memories. Charlotte Flair as the women's champion also lost her debut in record time.

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[slik]

I imagine Becky shows up to end RAW

[xrodmuc316]

Raiders/Styles and Omos again

Same matches over and over and over again

Maybe if they didnt fire half the roster they wouldnt have to run so many rematches.

I mean they still would, but at least they wouldnt HAVE to :rofl:

[Fignuts]

I don't even care that Kross lost because No More Words is back.

[xrodmuc316]

Wrestling fans have some of the worst memories. Charlotte Flair as the women's champion also lost her debut in record time.

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Yeah that was especially weird because Nattie was who Charlotte beat to win the title. If Nattie was so good to beat Charlotte in 2 minutes, why couldnt she beat her when the title was on the line.

At least back then NXT was still pretty underground, but still no logic whatsoever.

Edit:Also, Tyson Kid doing the Nattie's husband gimmick was great

[Evil Vito]

I imagine Becky shows up to end RAW

Yeah, probably. I expect she and Seth will eventually wind up on the same show but I could see them being on separate brands for a couple months until the draft

[xrodmuc316]

I imagine Becky shows up to end RAW

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breastfeeding at home and still the most over woman in the division.</p>&mdash; The Man (@BeckyLynchWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/BeckyLynchWWE/status/1417289658480922625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

She is not wrong

[Evil Vito]

Lol @ doing the entrances, ring introductions, and the fans have to just sit there for another 5 minutes because they won’t start the match during commercial

[Evil Vito]

Remember that mandate a couple years ago that ZERO wrestling could happen on commercial break? So they kept awkwardly booking 2/3 calls matches and kept having matches end in DQ with and instant restart? Vince is a strange man

[Triple A]

still feel "flabbergasted" @ how they seemingly purposefully ruin wrestlers... horrible shit company

[xrodmuc316]

What if the end of the show is Taker showing up and dropping Charlotte with a Tombstone?? :rofl:

[Triple A]

why is this match on again...

[Triple A]

I hate this!!!

[Triple A]

crowd dead / doesn't care obviously since they just watched this match last night

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's been nice having a live crowd back and even nicer to know we haven't lost our knack for killing them dead <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERAW</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/1417315720023744513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

What if the end of the show is Taker showing up and dropping Charlotte with a Tombstone?? :rofl:

I'd mark

[xrodmuc316]

still feel "flabbergasted" @ how they seemingly purposefully ruin wrestlers... horrible shit company

It is befuddling. For someone who loves making as much money as possible, you would think Vince would want Superstars who can draw big money like Austin, Hogan, Cena, and Rock.

Instead he shuts down any character who can even see the cusp of Superstardom on the horizon.

[Noid]

I'm fully behind Nikki A.S.H.

[xrodmuc316]

LOL cash in? Charlotte champ for a day?? She is really entering that Triple H level of padding her title reigns.

[Evil Vito]

LMFAO another stat pad Charlotte reign

[Noid]

Nikki Cross is champion!

[Evil Vito]

The last 4 women’s MITB winners have cashed in within 24 hours

Truly innovative writing

[Evil Vito]

Well, gave Raw a post PPV shot as I often do but that’s all. Won’t be back next week, nothing interests me

First SD back with fans was pretty good so I’ll give that another week

[Noid]

There's no pleasing some of you twerps. No wonder WWE doesn't care for the opinion of fans.

[xrodmuc316]

Well, gave Raw a post PPV shot as I often do but that’s all. Won’t be back next week, nothing interests me

First SD back with fans was pretty good so I’ll give that another week

Smackdown is a FAR superior show. That was a better than normal Raw though.

[Noid]

There's no pleasing some of you twerps. No wonder WWE doesn't care for the opinion of fans.

If this happened on AEW TV, you lot would be standing in line with buckets to get the first drop of Tony Khan's precum. Seriously.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

There's no pleasing some of you twerps. No wonder WWE doesn't care for the opinion of fans.

Yeah pretty dumb to care that you’ve lost nearly 75% of your audience in a decade

[slik]

After Cena leaves, after Rock returns and leaves, WWE doesn't have any more magic rabbits to pull out of their hat. They have to make new stars.

[slik]

Smackdown is a FAR superior show. That was a better than normal Raw though.

From what I've seen SD is a drastically better show than RAW.

SD >>>>>>>>>> Raw

[Noid]

Yeah pretty dumb to care that you’ve lost nearly 75% of your audience in a decade

Don’t get high off your own supply mark. You’re all conditioned to hate WWE by the echo chambers on the internet. Don’t like it? Stop watching.

[slik]

Broke Baron Corbin >>>>> RAW

[Noid]

Broke Baron Corbin >>>>> RAW

Do not abuse your mod powers buster.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Don’t get high off your own supply mark. You’re all conditioned to hate WWE by the echo chambers on the internet. Don’t like it? Stop watching.

Jokes on you, I don’t watch and stopped a long time ago because the product sucks. Losing 3 million viewers in a decade seems to speak to that. So 3 million people are conditioned to hate WWE? Or maybe 3 million people and counting are onto something about the product continuously getting worse.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Broke Baron Corbin >>>>> RAW

Paint drying >>>>> Raw

[Fignuts]

Nah, this was a pretty fun show tonight.

[Noid]

Jokes on you, I don’t watch and stopped a long time ago because the product sucks. Losing 3 million viewers in a decade seems to speak to that. So 3 million people are conditioned to hate WWE? Or maybe 3 million people and counting are onto something about the product continuously getting worse.

Then what are you doing here miserable twat? There's an AEW thread too. Run along now.

[Noid]

Nah, this was a pretty fun show tonight.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. The show had its moments. Fans have become adrenaline junkies with short attention spans. They have no concept of timing because of all the 30 minute flippy shit battles they see on the indies.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Then what are you doing here miserable twat? There's an AEW thread too. Run along now.

I’m allowed to post wherever I want and voice my opinion whenever I want, regardless if you care for what I have to say.

[Noid]

I’m allowed to post wherever I want and voice my opinion whenever I want, regardless if you care for what I have to say.

Okay.

I hope you show the same level of tolerance for some of us when we express our displeasure for AEW's offerings.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

lol idgaf if people don’t like AEW. I like most of what they do but they certainly aren’t perfect and nobody here is staunchly defending everything they do.

[Triple A]

Damien Ray 2.0 owning Noid's ass..

[Noid]

lol idgaf if people don’t like AEW. I like most of what they do but they certainly aren’t perfect and nobody here is staunchly defending everything they do.

Just like every other disenfranchised fan hoping that a multi million dollar company would cater to their pedestrian taste. You lot like to think that you're all so smart but in reality you're all just sheep. No wonder Meltzer makes a living selling snake oil and shaming female competitors.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bobby Lashley has engaged KEVIN DUNN MODE. <a href="https://t.co/kovlj9R4Gk">pic.twitter.com/kovlj9R4Gk</a></p>&mdash; SkullsMedia.com by GIFSkull (@SkullsMedia) <a href="https://twitter.com/SkullsMedia/status/1417307946459959309?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">POOR SHANKY BEING DESTROYED BY DREW <a href="https://t.co/btwkLWneRI">pic.twitter.com/btwkLWneRI</a></p>&mdash; Pulkit // JINDER DAY (@MahaIicia) <a href="https://twitter.com/MahaIicia/status/1417307621946658817?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Noid]

There's so much to enjoy from tonight's episode.

1. Riddle and Cena's interaction was perfect.
2. Viking Raiders and Jaxson Ryker winning their respective matches. WWE giving newer talents a chance?
3. Sheamus dominating cruiserweights. Can't wait for the bully to get his comeuppance.
4. Sheamus AR and entrance package being gorgeous.
5. Mustafa Ali and Mansoor teaming up next week. WWE giving newer talents a chance?
6. Lashley overcoming a fan favorite and cementing his legacy as a credible world champion as he moves forward to defeating Goldberg at summerslam.
7. Mahal's henchman getting destroyed by x number of chair shots.
8. Eva Marie being fantastic in her role.
8. Keeping Rhea Ripley strong as she put on a valiant effort in the title match.
9. Nikki finally becoming champion.
10. Jeff Hardy's amazing theme song.

If you didn't get anything out of the three hours, there's something really wrong with you.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Just like every other disenfranchised fan hoping that a multi million dollar company would cater to their pedestrian taste. You lot like to think that you're all so smart but in reality you're all just sheep. No wonder Meltzer makes a living selling snake oil and shaming female competitors.

I don’t pay a dime for any subscribed wrestling content. I only pay using AEW PPV because it’s worth $25 every few months to watch a show I’m likely to enjoy. If they ever want monthly PPV mode I wouldn’t purchase every show and what I like about the product would prob suffer because monthly PPVs either means rematches or rushing storylines.

In the post MITB Raw in 2011, the show drew nearly 5 million TV viewers. A decade later and Raw is hitting record low numbers and routinely finishing with less than 2 million viewers. Something doesn’t add up there, and it’s not because those missing 3-4 million people have pedestrian taste or are sheep. When tv shows get bad, or stale, or never reward their viewers with satisfying payoffs, people stop watching. WWE isn’t losing nearly three quarters of their audience because Dave Meltzer is selling rumors on the internet. It’s because their product just isn’t any good, their roster stale, and very little if anything they’re producing is entertaining, intriguing, or exciting.

Vince McMahon is insane. It keeps doing the same shit over and over again despite the results being the same; declining ratings, declining interest and apathetic crowds. He’s getting paid a shit ton of money to produce content and that’s great for him. His business acumen is undeniable. But his creativity clearly isn’t speaking to people anymore and the fact that they’re continually losing their audience speaks to that.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Just like every other disenfranchised fan hoping that a multi million dollar company would cater to their pedestrian taste. You lot like to think that you're all so smart but in reality you're all just sheep. No wonder Meltzer makes a living selling snake oil and shaming female competitors.

And I never had hopes they’d appease my tastes. I just hoped they’d produce simple and quality storytelling that they’ve shown they’re capable of, instead of churning out the same old shit week after week. And when they stopped entertaining me, I just turned it off, like 3 million other people, and found something else to watch instead of hoping one day WWE would be good again.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bobby Lashley has engaged KEVIN DUNN MODE. <a href="https://t.co/kovlj9R4Gk">pic.twitter.com/kovlj9R4Gk</a></p>&mdash; SkullsMedia.com by GIFSkull (@SkullsMedia) <a href="https://twitter.com/SkullsMedia/status/1417307946459959309?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">POOR SHANKY BEING DESTROYED BY DREW <a href="https://t.co/btwkLWneRI">pic.twitter.com/btwkLWneRI</a></p>&mdash; Pulkit // JINDER DAY (@MahaIicia) <a href="https://twitter.com/MahaIicia/status/1417307621946658817?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I counted 18 camera cuts in that Lashley video lol

[slik]

There's so much to enjoy from tonight's episode.

1. Riddle and Cena's interaction was perfect.
2. Viking Raiders and Jaxson Ryker winning their respective matches. WWE giving newer talents a chance?
3. Sheamus dominating cruiserweights. Can't wait for the bully to get his comeuppance.
4. Sheamus AR and entrance package being gorgeous.
5. Mustafa Ali and Mansoor teaming up next week. WWE giving newer talents a chance?
6. Lashley overcoming a fan favorite and cementing his legacy as a credible world champion as he moves forward to defeating Goldberg at summerslam.
7. Mahal's henchman getting destroyed by x number of chair shots.
8. Eva Marie being fantastic in her role.
8. Keeping Rhea Ripley strong as she put on a valiant effort in the title match.
9. Nikki finally becoming champion.
10. Jeff Hardy's amazing theme song.

If you didn't get anything out of the three hours, there's something really wrong with you.

1. Riddle is cringeworthy minus Orton
2. Viking Raiders will go back to doing nothing in a few months, as usual, and Ryker is boring AF and a black hole for charisma
3. Sheamus vs Humberto has happened umpteen times
4. He does have a good entrance, I like Lashley's as well
5. See Viking Raiders, really a shame in Mustafa's case too
6. Lashley will likely drop the title to Goldberg to increase RAW ratings IMO
7. Jinder is boring, ditto for hench people
8. Rhea is lame
9. Nikki is lame
10. I'm indifferent to this but many do like it, so I give you that

[Noid]

And I never had hopes they’d appease my tastes. I just hoped they’d produce simple and quality storytelling that they’ve shown they’re capable of, instead of churning out the same old shit week after week. And when they stopped entertaining me, I just turned it off, like 3 million other people, and found something else to watch instead of hoping one day WWE would be good again.

You really feel strongly about this considering that you stopped watching it a long time ago because the product sucked. It's like coming back to a toxic ex because the sex was insane am I right?

Since you're fixated on the declining viewership, let's talk about WWE's record profit numbers and how they've signed huge deals with USA / Peacock, Fox and countless outlets overseas. They're incredibly profitable and doing just fine with or without you. At the end of the day, it's a successful business and have pioneered their industry.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Man if they put the belt back on Goldberg lol. A match against Roman would make way more sense for Goldberg since I don’t remember him getting his match with Roman done because of covid.

The Cena match is a slam dunk angle to go with for summer slam. But after that, I would’ve been good with Goldberg challenging for survivor series, and hopefully the Rock at Mania. Hell, maybe bring in the brinks truck and Lesnar for rumble title shot. Just let Roman spend the next 8 months running thru the stars of the past until you build/find someone worthy of dethroning him.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

You really feel strongly about this considering that you stopped watching it a long time ago because the product sucked. It's like coming back to a toxic ex because the sex was insane am I right?

Since you're fixated on the declining viewership, let's talk about WWE's record profit numbers and how they've signed huge deals with USA / Peacock, Fox and countless outlets overseas. They're incredibly profitable and doing just fine with or without you. At the end of the day, it's a successful business and have pioneered their industry.

I already mentioned and credited Vince for his business acumen and ability to get corporations to pay him lots of money to produce weekly content. There’s no argument there.

That still has nothing to do with declining viewership or your silly claims that it’s the pedestrian tastes of marks and not a crappy product that’s driven away most of their viewership.

And I’ve not come back. The only reason I know what’s going on is because of this board. I skimmed thru all the PPV and skipped Raw completely because after watching a mediocre smackdown I couldn’t find the energy to sit thru a three hour wrestling show for a product that I don’t enjoy anymore.

[Noid]

1. Riddle is cringeworthy minus Orton
2. Viking Raiders will go back to doing nothing in a few months, as usual, and Ryker is boring AF and a black hole for charisma
3. Sheamus vs Humberto has happened umpteen times
4. He does have a good entrance, I like Lashley's as well
5. See Viking Raiders, really a shame in Mustafa's case too
6. Lashley will likely drop the title to Goldberg to increase RAW ratings IMO
7. Jinder is boring, ditto for hench people
8. Rhea is lame
9. Nikki is lame
10. I'm indifferent to this but many do like it, so I give you that

Excuse you sir. Riddle is consistently putting on amazing matches without the need for straps, exploding barb wires or coffin drops. I do think he'd benefit from a focus group though. It's hip and very unoriginal to hate Riddle. He's the highlight of the raw brand.

Creating new stars often means taking chances. Ryker is much better than Dominick Mysterio but unfortunately his political views do not line up with the fans so it's easy to hate him. How dare they even take chances or try? Ripley is floundering but she still has a long way to go. Orton's first reign as champion didn't even last a month. Nikki's far from lame. Her new superhero gimmick has potential but you and twitter have already made up your mind.

Also Mahal is a throwback and far from boring.

[Noid]

I already mentioned and credited Vince for his business acumen and ability to get corporations to pay him lots of money to produce weekly content. There’s no argument there.

That still has nothing to do with declining viewership or your silly claims that it’s the pedestrian tastes of marks and not a crappy product that’s driven away most of their viewership.

And I’ve not come back. The only reason I know what’s going on is because of this board. I skimmed thru all the PPV and skipped Raw completely because after watching a mediocre smackdown I couldn’t find the energy to sit thru a three hour wrestling show for a product that I don’t enjoy anymore.

You're not so bad after all. I too enjoy skimming through content and voicing my opinion because it saves me time and gives me an opportunity to blow off some steam. I'll admit that WWE's current product leaves a lot to be desired but it isn't all bad. Sunday was spectacular and all ppvs showcase amazing in ring competition just like AEW but without the gimmicks for the most part.

[slik]

I liked Riddle's "Fight Pit" match w/ Timothy Thatcher in NXT and I thought that gimmick match had good potential for the main roster (much more so than RAW Underground). I personally find the no shoes thing weird because feet are disgusting but I won't hold that against him as a wrestler.

I think his main roster character has been very dumb and cringey personally (ditto for Nikki) but he could overcome it in time, I'd be fine with being wrong on that.

[Noid]

I liked Riddle's "Fight Pit" match w/ Timothy Thatcher in NXT and I thought that gimmick match had good potential for the main roster (much more so than RAW Underground). I personally find the no shoes thing weird because feet are disgusting but I won't hold that against him as a wrestler.

I think his main roster character has been very dumb and cringey personally (ditto for Nikki) but he could overcome it in time, I'd be fine with being wrong on that.

Riddle is pandering to Vince's sensibilities. He's a smart man and knows what will make him successful. The man is self aware, talented and a prick. He's got it all.

Nikki created the new character and it is as pure as the woman behind it. There's always room for straight babyfaces. It's refreshing to see a non edgy character for a change.

[drave]

America's Moist Wanted






There's a shirt I'd buy.

[drave]

Also...


Karrion Kross barely looked bigger than Hardy last night, lulz. Also, they had him job? wtflol????


So dumb. He was lip syncing Scarlett's part of the song too and now I picture him sounding like The Undertaker from Suburban Commando.


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[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This looks so much better without a camera cut for each chair shot! <a href="https://t.co/tlhElBJX9t">https://t.co/tlhElBJX9t</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Rift of NoDQ.com �� (@aaronrift) <a href="https://twitter.com/aaronrift/status/1417446644891672576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[drave]

His shoulder looked brutal.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In floods of tears at Eva's pratfall here. International television btw. <a href="https://t.co/A7dMuOGpgS">pic.twitter.com/A7dMuOGpgS</a></p>&mdash; Barrylad (@TheBarrylad) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBarrylad/status/1417512272319107076?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

She's so great

[Mr. Nerfect]

Watched Raw highlights. Holy shit, get rid of Kevin Dunn. Not doing my ironic praise of WWE thing, the booking here was actually really clever in certain places. They really managed to make Drew McIntyre look good, and a lot of the things they are holding back on are going to be able to be played out in coming weeks.

The Hardy/Kross stuff works because, let’s face it — Kross is not Goldberg. Nor does he have that potential. Now Kross has an actual program and is forever going to be linked to the guy. They could do a Ladder Match at a PPV over a belt in two years or whatever and it could have a feel to it. Plus, I’m pretty sure they are going to bring in Scarlett to “ramp up” the act and have Kross focused by her.

Plus, it reminds people that the only show AEW can beat is where the rookies play. Their champion just got outfoxed because this isn’t the minor leagues, son. And that could always turn into something down there.

But god damn, those camera cuts. It’s a ridiculous idea and they are insane for thinking that is a good idea and doing it deliberately. Just ending that shit will increase viewers by several hundred thousand right there.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m convinced that the Cena/Riddle stuff and Riddle dropping his first name is because Vince didn’t get Riddle at first, but then felt like he “got him” and his name is Riddle? Ha! Perfect.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Even the Alexa Bliss stuff was toned down from what it could have been. It’s still horrible. Hopefully they leave the magic to AEW. Keep Alexa in that MITB gear though.

[slik]

Still under 2 million even with advertising Cena

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE Raw last night on USA Network was watched by 1,923,000 viewers on average. It was the first Raw at full capacity since March 2020.<br><br>�� Read more: <a href="https://t.co/TjeXdQFzew">https://t.co/TjeXdQFzew</a> <a href="https://t.co/8GzqilEv4D">pic.twitter.com/8GzqilEv4D</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1417584529234087936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

Alexa's new gear is good and I agree they should keep it.

I cannot describe how much I dislike Kevin Dunn's zooms/camera cuts. Even more than the booking it is the primary thing that makes it difficult to watch WWE, in my opinion.

[xrodmuc316]

Still under 2 million even with advertising Cena

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE Raw last night on USA Network was watched by 1,923,000 viewers on average. It was the first Raw at full capacity since March 2020.<br><br>�� Read more: <a href="https://t.co/TjeXdQFzew">https://t.co/TjeXdQFzew</a> <a href="https://t.co/8GzqilEv4D">pic.twitter.com/8GzqilEv4D</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1417584529234087936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Poor Impact, they arent very impactful when it comes to ratings :rofl:

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Still under 2 million even with advertising Cena

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE Raw last night on USA Network was watched by 1,923,000 viewers on average. It was the first Raw at full capacity since March 2020.<br><br>�� Read more: <a href="https://t.co/TjeXdQFzew">https://t.co/TjeXdQFzew</a> <a href="https://t.co/8GzqilEv4D">pic.twitter.com/8GzqilEv4D</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1417584529234087936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Roughly 3 million people lost in the past decade. Ouch.

[Bad News Gertner]

Everyone watches Raw on the Network/streaming devices. They are probably getting like 5-6 millions viewers in reality.

[screech]

Are those streaming numbers factored in/tracked somewhere?

[Mr. Nerfect]

So John Cena brought the average up an extra 330k viewers even though he was advertised at the top of the show? That’s not bad at all.

That’s about 1/3 of AEW’s entire audience right there.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I wonder what it’d look like if you took the peak of Raw’s viewership and compared it to AEW. You know, like how the reverse is done.

[slik]

Are those streaming numbers factored in/tracked somewhere?

Sling/Hulu Live/Youtube TV all are counted in the live viewers

[slik]

I'm sure USA/WWE are fine with this number tbh. Post MITB Raw usually gets a 10% bump and they got a 20% bump.

[Blonde Moment]

There's so much to enjoy from tonight's episode.

1. Riddle and Cena's interaction was perfect.
No arguments here
2. Viking Raiders and Jaxson Ryker winning their respective matches. WWE giving newer talents a chance?
Ryker sucks And the WWe doesnt really have a tag team division
3. Sheamus dominating cruiserweights. Can't wait for the bully to get his comeuppance. Boring
4. Sheamus AR and entrance package being gorgeous.
5. Mustafa Ali and Mansoor teaming up next week. WWE giving newer talents a chance?
Ali is sucking the life out of Mansoor
6. Lashley overcoming a fan favorite and cementing his legacy as a credible world champion as he moves forward to defeating Goldberg at summerslam. No one gives a fuck about Goldberg but old fucks. Lee was wasted here
7. Mahal's henchman getting destroyed by x number of chair shots.\
A dastardly deed wasted on the henchman of heel that couldn't get heat if you lit him on fire
8. Eva Marie being fantastic in her role.
The Wwe has more talented eye candy that Eva..
8. Keeping Rhea Ripley strong as she put on a valiant effort in the title match.\ Thev have made her look like shit since she has won the title and doubt this will change anytime soon.
9. Nikki finally becoming champion.
She the chew toy Rhea and Charlotte will be playing keep away with making her title reign worthless and done by Survivor seers at the latest

10. Jeff Hardy's amazing theme song.
Hardy should be ending his career with his brother in AEW rather than jobbing for nothing in the WWe

If you didn't get anything out of the three hours, there's something really wrong with you.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They’re making piles money to put their TV shows on plus getting more revenue for loaning out the network. They’re not going to care and shouldn’t until the tv deals are up and the money starts talking a hit because of declining viewership.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I don't even care that Kross lost because No More Words is back.

You might say that Kross was

Just a victim of his own conceit
The architect of his own defeat

[Bad News Gertner]

Pretty crazy that Eva Marie helped raise Raw's viewership by 300,000+

[screech]

Watched this yesterday, skipped some stuff. Hadn't seen Eva Marie since her return. This gimmick seems v good for her.

[screech]

I cannot describe how much I dislike Kevin Dunn's zooms/camera cuts. Even more than the booking it is the primary thing that makes it difficult to watch WWE, in my opinion.

It literally makes some segments unwatchable. That drew/jinder chair shot stuff was so bad.

[Jordan]

https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/wwe_16_9_xxl/public/all/2021/07/20210723_Raw_BobbyGoldberg_tonight_FC--8f2c53252d338442094a7097be452d25.jpg

In the wake of Goldberg's emergence last week, WWE Champion Bobby Lashley will respond to the startling return of the WWE Hall of Famer. Plus, AJ Styles & Omos will attempt to defend the Raw Tag Team Titles against The Viking Raiders and Nikki A.S.H. ushers in Raw Women’s Title reign. Don't miss Monday Night Raw, tonight at 8/7 C on USA.

[Noid]

Now that's what a world champion looks like.

[Fignuts]

He would look better with two other black dudes hanging out with him. Too bad they didn't think of that.

[Noid]

He would look better with two other black dudes hanging out with him. Too bad they didn't think of that.

I understand that fans romanticize the Hurt Business although it had a very short lifespan. Irrespective of Benjamin and Alexander, Lashley has excelled as a champion. One of the bright spots of monday night raw.

[Noid]

Benjamin and Alexander were not Orton and Batista or Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase Jr. They were rightfully relegated back to the lower midcard where they belonged in the first place. Shelton Benjamin's entire second run has been underwhelming so he doesn't get any special treatment based on his previous accomplishments.

[slik]

I wonder if Ricochet will be back on RAW post MITB or if he's still relegated to Main Event

[Noid]

Ricochet is a joy to watch in the ring. I hope they pair him up with a credible mouthpiece so that the masses can finally acknowledge him.

[DAMN iNATOR]

It's a shame it's such a zany gimmick, but genuinely feel happy for Nikki. Should've happened like 2-3 years ago, IMO.

[xrodmuc316]

She has been giving the same promo almost word for word since she started wearing that gimmick.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Whatever Charlotte's wearing looks horrendous.

[DAMN iNATOR]

She has been giving the same promo almost word for word since she started wearing that gimmick.

Yeah, it reminds me of Bayley cutting almost the same promo every week as a babyface on the main roster.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Think I spotted Santa Claus in the front row of the crowd.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Funny how Charlotte can talk so much trash about other female superstars despite riding daddy dearest's coattails her whole career while looking exactly fucking like him doing it.

[xrodmuc316]

Yeah, it reminds me of Bayley cutting almost the same promo every week as a babyface on the main roster.

Feels like when Nia was a babyface and talked about bullying and blah blah

[DAMN iNATOR]

Yeah they're definitely giving Charlotte #12 at SummerSlam so she can keep having short-ass title reigns to rush her to 16 or 17 Women's Championships, UGH...

[DAMN iNATOR]

Feels like when Nia was a babyface and talked about bullying and blah blah

That was truly atrocious. Especially from someone related to Rock and who has on numerous occasions almost ended several ladies' careers, and injured quite a few too.

[xrodmuc316]

Charlotte had ALL that plastic surgery that made her look worse, yet she never thought to do anything about her GIGANTIC ears lol

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'm sorry, I can't see Sonya in a full suit and not picture Paula Poundstone.

[Jordan]

I'd pound stone Sonya

[Jordan]

That opening segment was one of the worst I can remember.

[slik]

Wish spark plug bob holly would return and challenge Blaster Lashley

[Jordan]

WWE is in this rut of constant rematches and non-title matches before title matches. So annoying. This tag match is fine but still, we just saw it at the last PPV.

[slik]

really lazy booking

[slik]

chucky should win 24/7 title

[Jordan]

Remember how over War Raiders were in NXT? People just want to chant WAR.

[Jordan]

LMAO the camera cuts on the chairshots.... fucking nauseating

[slik]

Could see this show dropping from the Cena-fronted 1.9 million RAW last week

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Just turned it on and see Drew and unknown Indian fighting. Camera cuts are making me dizzy.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Picturing Kevin Dunn yelling “cut!” repeatedly at the production crew like he’s the Berzerker

https://64.media.tumblr.com/c80b23696bf28da303fa60d7112991fe/tumblr_nasg2228ld1tihmddo1_400.gifv

[Jordan]

Such a stupid DQ. It's not McIyntre's fault that a chair was in the guys hands.

[Jordan]

Would take head and titties bang Dudrop don't judge.

[Jordan]

LOL Jimmy got Natalia and Tamina confused. Stupid idiot.

[slik]

karrion kross vs keith lee SHOULD be a good match

[Mr. Nerfect]

Just cancel wrestling please. Leave the memories alone.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The weird thing is someone actually does have to throw to the different cameras when they cut like that. It’s the most ridiculous thing in the world to imagine. And everybody except for maybe one or two people knows it’s the worst idea in the world.

[slik]

commercial break 60 seconds into the match...sigh

[Fenix122]

Imagine having Keith Lee come back only to have him jobbing

[slik]

Kross with the clean win in 9 minutes

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Mallister Black and Andrade and Miro watching Keith Lee be a jobber and be like yup, see you in 6 months Keith

[Mr. Nerfect]

Keith Lee kinda sucks. Never got it with him. Yeah, he’s fat and can move, but he’s not as good as using it as, say, a Samoa Joe.

[fundiddle]

"i would love to be a fly on the wall in the mind of bobby lashley" has got to be one of the dumbest things i've ever heard on commentary. that was 15 seconds after tuning in

[slik]

"local medical facility"

[Sepholio]

Hope Lashley beats Oldberg with the Jackhammer.

[Sepholio]

Americas moist wanted *groans*

[Sepholio]

Also John Morrison looks like an NPC from Cyberpunk 2077 now

[Sepholio]

lol Riddle acting like a turtle stuck on its back

[slik]

Yep

It's felt like one for a while now tbh

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ya know…..<br><br>There’s been way too many times I’ve felt like I’m watching a kids show tonight. <br><br>Not sure if that’s what they’re going for but that’s how it’s landed with me. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a></p>&mdash; Mikey Hutch ✨�� (@MikeyHutch765) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeyHutch765/status/1419844970949890051?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[fundiddle]

so, like... did an agent tell nikki a.s.h., "hey, now that 'cross' is no longer part of your name, you can do as many cross bodies as you fuckin' want"?

[slik]

lol Charlotte pins Nikki clean

[slik]

What a trainwreck of a show, counter productive as ever

[Sepholio]

and we get a rematch next week too! Can't wait for Nikki A.S.H. (Almost Super Hero) to avenge her loss with a surprise roll up of charlotte when Rhea Ripley distracts Charlotte! I'm A.S.H. rn (Almost Super Hyped)!@!1!@!one1!~`

[weather vane]

Why do you guys watch? Lol.

[slik]

I haven't been a regular RAW viewer lately, returned for MITB and crowds, no point in it honestly.

[Sepholio]

Why do you guys watch? Lol.

Honestly? RAW is background noise for me while I'm on the computer. I only really pay attention any during PPVs.

[weather vane]

But it’s so so so so bad. Put anything else on. Music.

[fundiddle]

i seriously only tuned in tonight! partially! but i have to say, i couldn't really find it in me to pick anything apart over the hurt business angle. lashley looked great, and everyone looked great making sure he did

[Sepholio]

But it’s so so so so bad. Put anything else on. Music.

It's not THAT bad.

But it damn sure ain't good either.

[weather vane]

I don’t watch. I’ll find a clip of big moments or cool matches (Wrestlemania or Rumble mostly, used to be some NXT) a few times a year maybe. I just can’t wrap my head around why people watch it. It’s atrocious.

[fundiddle]

sometimes you just need that not-so-subtle reminder, dawg

[Noid]

I disapprove of the recent contender's format they're abiding by. It's asinine.

[slik]

It's not THAT bad.



Oh yes it is

[slik]

SD has some stuff that is fun/good but RAW is a boring, poorly put together tv program, with childish storylines and promos and despite having talented wrestlers feels lifeless yet overproduced at the same time. It seems like it continues it's streak of being something you don't need to watch either, as it's constant rematches of things that will eventually happen at the PPV a few weeks ahead.

[slik]

Creative didn't have anything for John Cena this week on tv, so instead of appearing he teamed up with Riddle to face T-Bar and Mace in the dark match after RAW

[Mr. Nerfect]

Creative didn't have anything for John Cena this week on tv, so instead of appearing he teamed up with Riddle to face T-Bar and Mace in the dark match after RAW

Good for the live crowd and a great way to use Cena without actually spoiling him on television. Shows they’ve got a lot of stock in Riddle, Mace and T-Bar, which you would think would have resulted in more thought put into the naming process of them.

The show itself sounds absolutely awful. About the only thing that achieved anything would have been the Lashley squash. MAYBE Priest beating Sheamus and Ali/Mansoor winning, but it’s hardly compelling.

[Fignuts]

Bad enough they broke up the Hurt Business, but they also have to rub it in our face with shit like this. Still waiting to know how that split helped anyone at all.

Also it's August and we're still on Charlotte and ripley. What in the actual monkey fuck?

[Mr. Nerfect]

It should be Charlotte/Becky/Rhea at SummerSlam. Fuck Nikki Cross. She’s horrible.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I see the meta as to why they broke up The Hurt Business. I don’t think they had to do it, and I probably would have kept them together, but it’s not the most offensive thing about that show.

[drave]

Americas moist wanted *groans*


it cracks me up. I told my wife last week that there has to be a rib with Miz and Morrison to see who can "jackoff" most on TV. That's 100% what they're doing and its hilarious. Almost wanna get an America's Moist Wanted shirt :rofl:


Also John Morrison looks like an NPC from Cyberpunk 2077 now


He really does though, I cannot unsee this now!



It should be Charlotte/Becky/Rhea at SummerSlam. Fuck Nikki Cross. She’s horrible.


Yes please. Becky's return going to blow the roof off whatever venue they're at for her return

[Evil Vito]

I don’t know if I can get behind the “Raw is a kids show” talk. Kids are pretty easy to please yes, so I can see why wrestling will always have that “magic” to them early on. Inevitably most of them will grow out of it in their teens but you will end up with some lifers.

But a show running 8-11 PM on a week night doesn’t strike me as a show specifically trying to be a kids show.

Sounds more like an excuse being made for a a show that is poorly written, poorly acted, simplistic, and formulaic.

[screech]

Seems like skipping this was a good idea?

[drave]

I mean, South Park is on at 2PM, but it isn't a kids show.




it is quite easy to see that RAW is marketed toward a much younger audience than ever before. Right now, it seems like it is in the phase of cartoons that throws a few low-key adult jokes in there, while largely staying focused on children.


Lashley / MVP was allowed to say shit last week though, naughty naughty!!

[#1-norm-fan]

It just seems like a show written with a child’s mentality regardless of who it’s geared toward.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

So AEW made that CM Punk tease last week totally to try to hijack tonight’s Raw in Chicago right?

[erickman]

hope bliss is not there tonight

[Jordan]

Monday's ain't for rasslin no more.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

MVP such a good manager. Was really the final piece Lashley needed.

[slik]

Megaface Lashley and Goldberg getting booed, Chicago continues it's reign of the best wrestling crowd

[Supreme Olajuwon]

We want Wyatt chants

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Goldberg couldn’t even get a cheap pop shouting out the city

[slik]

CM Punk chants during Drew vs Veer/Shanky

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">His previous son was released due to budget cuts.</p>&mdash; ❤ WFH Forever! ❤ (@JulesyTyme) <a href="https://twitter.com/JulesyTyme/status/1422352298353860615?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Sepholio]

LOL gonna have a sword fight out here.

[erickman]

sword on a pole match next

[Supreme Olajuwon]

So AEW can’t have a pizza cutter but WWE can use a sword? Pretty Extreme tbh

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE clearly accidentally piped in some noise from a Cena or Flair entrance in Drew's. It had Cole saying &quot;16-time champion&quot; even</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1422352866002542605?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Drew McIntyre match had 62 camera cuts before the ref rang the bell for DQ<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a></p>&mdash; MJF's Scarf (@MJFsScarf) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJFsScarf/status/1422352811120074752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[asphyXy]

First time I put Raw on in years solely because I wanted to hear CM Punk chants. Holy shit, this is fucking awful. McIntyre literally did nothing and they ran away scared shitless? Who the fuck is this marketed towards? If your IQ is above 100, it is impossible to enjoy this.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Rhea is only 24? Jesus

[erickman]

nia beast time

[slik]

First time I put Raw on in years solely because I wanted to hear CM Punk chants. Holy shit, this is fucking awful. McIntyre literally did nothing and they ran away scared shitless? Who the fuck is this marketed towards? If your IQ is above 100, it is impossible to enjoy this.

Watch Dynamite on Wednesday nights, much, much better than modern WWE!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Nia busted open hard way

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Wait what

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I cannot believe this is VEER as a baseball player. ������������������ <a href="https://t.co/n0m1K40iJK">pic.twitter.com/n0m1K40iJK</a></p>&mdash; Denise Salcedo (@_denisesalcedo) <a href="https://twitter.com/_denisesalcedo/status/1422353159981211661?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[erickman]

go ahead turn on the nia beast

[slik]

how did nia get busted open

[asphyXy]

Watch Dynamite on Wednesday nights, much, much better than modern WWE!

I have watched every Dynamite since last March. Didn't think I'd ever watch wrestling regularly again, but AEW is good shit.

[erickman]

how did nia get busted open

a botch in every match she is in.

[slik]

In true Vince fashion Ali loses in his hometown, annoying the live crowd

[slik]

I have watched every Dynamite since last March. Didn't think I'd ever watch wrestling regularly again, but AEW is good shit.

We usually have a pretty good Dynamite thread going on each week here at tp dubs, fyi :cool:

[Bad News Gertner]

Eva Marie is the best heel in wrestling.

[slik]

CM Punk chants again