Street Ultra Fighter IV Announced - Super Aggrivated Emo

[Kalyx triaD]

Do your best, I believe in you.

[Fignuts]

Madcatz is having a buy one get one free sale on TE sticks. Think I'm finally gonna spring for it.

[Fignuts]

Hope supplies last til the 13th, cause I won't be able to afford it til then.

[Boomer]

I probably would have gotten it if I hadn't gotten a Madcatz SE online at Walmart for 15 bucks. Once Lizardlick gets some good stock back in, I'm gonna make a nice Blinky Bear stick for myself.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

If the new XB achievement icons are anything to go by...

Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma will be in the game, presumably as new boss characters.

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2010/11/27_ssf4ach01.jpg

[Drakul]

Oh, good. I was worried we'd get interesting characters there for a minute.
No Rolento, Elena or R.Mika but another Ryu and a 2nd Akuma, who is pretty much Ryu with a teleport. Guessing we'll be getting Charlie as well.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yessssss, Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma. Actually interested in this now :heart:

[Kalyx triaD]

This doesn't rule out other characters, I would expect.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

If they don't balance them, hope they're still usable offline and not on.

[Fignuts]

Hope they add an actual story this time.

[Fignuts]

When is this Arcade Edition supposed to hit live anyway?

[Drakul]

They're adding new characters, stages and tweaking moves. I'm thinking it could be a new disc and we might see it around April. That's when the last two have been released.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

If it's a disc, they can fuck off unless it's a tenner. They promised Super was the last SF4 disc.

In fact, the DLC can fuck off if it's not a tenner.

[Fignuts]

I'd buy it at 15-20 as long as there's enough new content.

But yeah, if it's another 40 dollar disc, I don't know if I would buy it.

[Funky Fly]

You'd waffle, but you know we all would. :'(

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Maybe the DLC, but hate being lied to by companies, so if it's on a disc, I'll be very cautious about buying from Capcom again.

[Fignuts]

Hot damn, my Makoto is actually starting to get kind of formidable.

yuhs

[Funky Fly]

God damnit can't tell what's crapping out my network so hard.

[Funky Fly]

Khuntry is a rapey rapist who rapes people. :'(

[Fignuts]

Seriously.

Although I did go 3-1 against him with Chun-li. And that Dudley fight would have gone to a final round, had I not botched the end of the 4th round like that.

So that's something, I suppose.

[Fignuts]

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[Kalyx triaD]

Sorry for my no show, Fullmetal Alchemist marathon. Will join in future EBs.

[Funky Fly]

I tell you there is nothing more hilarious than Makoto's ultra I breaking a move's armour properties. The dick punch has a glass shattering sound to go with it. Priceless.

[Fignuts]

It's especially great when Balrog runs full speed right into it.

"My fight money!" is right. It's all going toward medical bills for getting his testicles out of his stomach.

[Funky Fly]

Gay video for you.

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[Fignuts]

Don't see it. You kalyxed it.

[Funky Fly]

No I didn't. It's youtube, so I assume it's busted on your end.

[Drakul]

I found these photos showing Yang and Yun in SSF4's achievements.

Ono: Yipe! What the hell was that? ;O

Please say those images are fake...

Ono: Is it almost completed for 360 ?! I'll check it to R&D room.

Does this mean Yun and Yang will be on Xbox 360?

Ono: We aim to please. ;D

[Editor's note: This last Tweet was made before the achievement photos were posted.]

[Fignuts]

Some AWESOME matches tonight, gentlemen. Funky, you should of stuck around. The Juri vs Sakura rematch was pretty epic.

Think that actually puts it at 2-2, for that match. Shoulda stayed for a rubber match. Next time.

Abel has definitely suffered, due to all the time spent on juri and makoto. Forgot how to play him from a strategy standpoint.

And no wins from Makoto today. That made me sad.

At least Juri has become pretty beastly. Might actually start playing ranked matches with her.

[Funky Fly]

I duno. Until I get my lag issues sorted, I may not be in the EBs too much. It's weird because my pc has no problems on the internet.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I duno. Until I get my lag issues sorted, I may not be in the EBs too much. It's weird because my pc has no problems on the internet.

Have you done an XBox network test? You may have a strict NAT.

[Kalyx triaD]

Sakura and Juri got something of a rivalry going. While working off the rust, I snuck in some new stuff for Sakura. My Chun fell a few pegs, but Ken got sharp.

Hilarious lag. Made going for quarter circles a chore. One time I imputed an EX senpuu and Sak just stood there to get kicked in the face by Bison. After a while I stopped getting mad.

[Funky Fly]

Have you done an XBox network test? You may have a strict NAT.
Up until like 2 days ago, I was golden. I'll try it out tho.
Sakura and Juri got something of a rivalry going. While working off the rust, I snuck in some new stuff for Sakura. My Chun fell a few pegs, but Ken got sharp.

Hilarious lag. Made going for quarter circles a chore. One time I imputed an EX senpuu and Sak just stood there to get kicked in the face by Bison. After a while I stopped getting mad.

Sorry, man. Things were going great till the ridiculous lag hit.

[Fignuts]

It wasn't as ridiculous as the other night, with your brother. Could literally put the controller down, grab a nacho, and take a sip of beer, inbetween hits.

[Kalyx triaD]

Huh? Khuntry's not my bro, not by blood anyway. There's a whole lot of mutual understandings.

Unless you actually played my bro, who's infuriatingly adapt at this game.

[Fignuts]

Was talking to Funky. We played his brother.

[Kalyx triaD]

Oh.

Brotherly combat is highly competitive. Some of that old sibling rivalry effect never goes away. In the end, we just wanna impress our parents, even if they have no interest in Street Fighter.

...Sorry for going meta on ya.

[Funky Fly]

It wasn't as ridiculous as the other night, with your brother. Could literally put the controller down, grab a nacho, and take a sip of beer, inbetween hits.

That was def on him. Our parents are too cheap to spring for half decent internet.

[Boomer]

Just ordered my arcade stick parts. Excited to finally get a top-quality stick to play with.

[Blitz]

I've got a top quality stick for you to play with

[Drakul]

AE changes to...

Zangief:

Normal Moves

• We increased his range on Far Standing Hard Punch.

Special Moves

• We buffed his damage on Light Punch and Hard Punch Spinning Piledrivers, and increased range on Light Punch Spinning Piledriver.

• EX Banishing Flat, when it hits a grounded opponent, will no longer knock down.

• As a result, it is impossible to go onto wake-up offense after EX banishing flat, but it's within Light Punch Spinning Piledriver's range so please utilize it wisely.

• There are no changes to either Lariat.

Ultra 2
It is possible to alter Siberian Blizzard's traveling distance by putting in a forward/backward input between Ultra freeze and start-up.

For forward direction, it can travel much further than before, so it's easier to grab backdashing opponents.

While the ground recovery on whiff has increased, we see it as a buff considering its possibility on controlling the distance.

Overall
The major changes are the EX Banishing Flat (Green Glove) and Light Punch Spinning Piledriver range. It became necessary, not just for Zangief players, but for the opponents as well to alter their spacing, so please research thoroughly in SSF4 Arcade Edition.

Everyone online is screwed. You've seen what I can do with the SB when I'm focused (20 win streak, pulling it off from a lying position, catching anything from a back dash to a Scissors Kick.) but now they're going to make it even better. I don't mind no knock down from EX Banishing Fist given everything else they've done instead. I was a little worried they'd destroy Zangief but they seem to have done the opposite.

Sagat:

Normal Moves[/U][/B]

• The total damage is increased on Standing Light Kick when both hits get connected.

• As before, only 1st hit is Special Cancelable.

Special Moves

• Tiger Uppercut's damage is increased when connected at the 1st or 2nd active frames.

• There has been many complaints about Angry Scar that it comes out when unintended, so we changed its command to Kick buttons instead.

Overall

As there were huge changes in transition from vanilla Street Fighter 4 to SSF4, there are no changes in Arcade Edition to anything besides damage and command adjustments.

Being appropriate for his name as the King, he retains the potential to be a top class in SSF4 Arcade Edition.

Dan:

Normal Moves[/U][/B]

• Close Standing Light Punch's startup is changed to 3 frames. This was 4 frames in SSFIV.

• Crouching Medium Punch's startup was changed to 5 frames, was 7 frames in SSFIV.

• Close Standing Light Kick, Close Standing Medium Punch, Close Standing Hard Kick, Far Standing Light Punch, Crouching Light Punch, and Crouching Medium Kick's recovery time was reduced, so there are new combos available.

• For example, Far Standing Light Punch into Crouching Medium Kick will combo along with Crouching Medium Punch 2x.

• Neutral Jumping Hard Punch has pursuit property, and will slam opponents down to the ground when hit.

Special Moves

• Medium and Hard Dan Kicks damage distribution got adjusted.

• Hard Dan Kick's total damage was decreased.

• Koryuken (Dragon Punch) will give air reset on trade, this is likely on Dan, not the opponent.

Ultra 2

• Haoh Gadoken's invincibility was decreased to 8 frames after Ultra freeze. As a result, if it can be stuffed, and projectile will not come out when that happens.

Overall

Normals are enormously buffed, so it became interesting in a close range brawl. This character is for pros, but this could be the one step forward for Saikyo!

Dudley:

Normal Moves

• Crouching Medium Kick's active frame window was increased to 5 frames, was 3 frames in SSFIV.

• Standing Hard Kick's recovery time was reduced. While it hasn't changed on hit, the frame advantage is 0 on block, so the risk is reduced and therefore it's easier to utilize. Previously, this was -3 on block.

• Jumping Hard Kick will slam down opponents to the ground if they're hit in airborne state, so it's better as an anti air option.

Unique Attacks

• We changed Toward + Medium Punch's startup to 7 frames, and increased hitbox as well, so it is possible to hit some characters out of their low attacks. The startup on this was 9 frames in SSFIV.

• Toward + Hard Kick's hitbox was buffed, so it is possible to connect from further away than now.

Special Moves

• A new special, EX Duck, is added in, it's different from regular versions. EX Duck has upper body invincibility during movement, and canceling into follow-ups is possible from the 3rd frame.

• Light Punch or Light Kick into EX Duck into Ducking Straight/Upper is possible now.

Others

• Jet Upper Focus Attack Dash Cancel on block has frame advantage of -2.

• Also, we fixed cases where a throw wouldn't connect on some dizzied opponents.

Overall

We made situations on where he had difficulty to be less severe, and made the changes for Dudley to have more variety of chances.

We think the brand new EX Duck will become an important tool with new combo possibilities, so you can look forward to him.

[RoXer]

Can we have a simple fireball input for Fei Long's fucking kicks already?

[Fignuts]

Ugh.

LAG

[Fignuts]

Kind of anticipating, and dreading getting my stick at the same time. I know I won't blow as many inputs as I do now, but I'm going to have to relearn everything, due to the different button layout. Probably won't play online again til I get used to it.

[Funky Fly]

Can we have a simple fireball input for Fei Long's fucking kicks already?
This and Cammy's shit need fixing.
Ugh.

LAG
NOT MY FAULT

[Fignuts]

Nah, was definitely on Khuntry's end. No problems at all, when I fought you and roxer.

Khuntry is hard enough to fight as it is, but with lag on top of that? No thank you. Not fun at all. Too bad because he is like the perfect person to fight, to get better. Very tough to beat, but not impossible.

[Khuntry]

Real sorry 'bout my bootleg connection guys. Its my shitty router.

[Khuntry]

Ran into Inthul. and got my as handed to me. couldn't get a single win not even one round.
I got mollywhopped.

[Funky Fly]

Who is Inthul?

[Khuntry]

A very very good fei long player.

[Funky Fly]

Looked it up. Deadly.

[Fignuts]

He has a reputation for being one of the best fei long users. Also, for being kittens and rainbows nice.

[Khuntry]

yeah, strange combination

[Kalyx triaD]

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Yeah this'll work. Just aped SRK's icons and saved them to my Photobucket album. You're welcome to the link (http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h230/Kalyx_triaD/FG%20Icons/), though I don't think you guys will put much use to this. In truth I had other reasons for gathering those icons.

While I'm at it, here's some FG lingo for those curious about how I write certain terms.

AA = Anti-Air: Both used to describe a moves directional attack and an on-hit status. If Figgy catches me with Ryu's LP Shoryu on AA, for instance, he can follow up with Ryu's EX Hadou, or Shinku, or Ultra Hadou. You may have seen me follow Ken's HP Shoryu on AA with FP Shoryu. Other characters have such juggle opportunities when they connect on AA.

j. = Jump (Not necessary to say direction usually)
cr. = Crouch
xx = Cancel: An interim character between moves when one is canceled to another. For instance you guys certainly know my Sak's:

cr.HP xx EX Senpuu, Upper Shinku Ultra

The Senpuu juggle doesn't link to anything, so notice the use of a comma between moves there.

Links: Links are not cancels, and you can follow up an attack within an incredibly gay timing window. They do lead to some flashy and strong combos, but it's my least favorite mechanic of the game.

Target Combos: What 3D fighters would call preset combos, these are strings of hits that were built to be 'dialed in'. Much more forgiving and fun than links, more rewarding than cancels. The 3rd Strike characters have a lot of these.

[Khuntry]

Can't Link? Then Plink...

[Khuntry]

...ugh

[Boomer]

Kind of anticipating, and dreading getting my stick at the same time. I know I won't blow as many inputs as I do now, but I'm going to have to relearn everything, due to the different button layout. Probably won't play online again til I get used to it.

I think you'll pick it up pretty easily. It didn't take me long. I'm definitely still weak with my inputs to the right on the stick, but I'm getting better overall. Way better than using a controller or even the SFIV Fight Pad, I think. I'm really curious how these Sanwa parts will feel as opposed to whatever I've been using. I'm guessing a lot of my issues are still straight timing, which would be my problem and not the stick. We will see.

Also decided to stick with a square gate on the joystick for the time being. Since I've been using one for over a year, and I prefer charge characters anyway, I'll probably be ok. It's all in preference anyway.

[Fignuts]

I thought the sticks came with Sanwa parts?

Or did you not get a TE?

[Boomer]

Nah I got an SE for 15 bucks from Walmart. I've been using a Hori EX2, which has better parts than the shitty stuff the SE came with, but still isn't great. The upgrades cost about 50, so 65 bucks for the stuff in the TE isn't bad at all.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Love my Tekken 5 stick. Not incredibly anal about the parts so this works for my skill level.

Can't imagine using a hexagonal-gate though. Think the arcades here were square-gate too.

[Boomer]

My MAME pre-made stick has Happ parts and an octo-gate, and I don't much like it for when I play SSF2T. Have a hard time feeling the edges of the gate.

[Drakul]

According to the Paul Gale Network, Capcom considered releasing another version of Street Fighter 3 series after Third Strike before they ended up pushing through with Street Fighter 4.

Capcom's Taki Enomoto mentioned a few of the finer notes the team was going over before they ended up deciding on a direction.

Before Capcom 100% committed themselves to doing Street Fighter 4, they were actually toying around with the idea of making a fourth title in the Street Fighter 3 series and it would have come out in February, 2009 (instead of SF4). The reason being that Capcom already had an overall story to work with, a balance of characters, and gameplay respected by the hardcore fans.

The decision was leaning towards going with 3D graphics from the start, but there was talk of it sticking to 2D drawn artwork like past titles in the series, but also the possibility of going complete 3D… movement and all. Capcom ultimately decided to relaunch and just give the fans what they really wanted: Street Fighter 4 and go with 3D visuals to attract today’s modern gamer, but maintain that classic gameplay from the SF2 series, which was loads more popular amongst the mainstream crowd than SF3.

Wonder how that would have turned out and how things would be different. Would we still have gotten Hakan, Juri, Abel, Seth etc?

[Kalyx triaD]

Hell no. And people would have bitched way more over something that was not 3rd Strike. I completely understand why Capcom moved on.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://nerfnow.com/comic/image/424

[Khuntry]

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[Drakul]

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I'm hoping they are only Arcade mode bosses and not actually playable characters. I really, really don't think we need any more characters of this style/type and I'm not just saying that because I favour guys like Zangief and Hakan.

We need more variety but I can't see us getting any more characters added to the AE if it's going to be a DLC. I hope we do, though, to compensate for two more Ryu characters and they better not add Charlie.

[Funky Fly]

Be nice if I could read Japanese. Gay that Shin Akuma and Evil Ryu are in. Yay, more shotos online.

[Kalyx triaD]

The arcade scene in so alive over there.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Honestly, Evil Ryu and Oni Akuma make me dance with happiness that they're in, just from a storyline point of view.

Charlie would also be "fucking sick".

[Kalyx triaD]

Karin, oh god please Karin...

[Kalyx triaD]

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2010/12/02_evilchars.jpg

[Funky Fly]

:'(

[Funky Fly]

It's doubtless they will be playable. Can only hope for a Sethesque nerfing.

[Kalyx triaD]

From a story POV I wanna see where this goes, they certainly teased this in some manner in SF4. Dark Ryu and Shin/Oni Akuma are stables of the Satsui no Hadou plot. Probably means we'll get Charlie after all.

KARIN KARIN

[Kalyx triaD]

It's doubtless they will be playable. Can only hope for a Sethesque nerfing.

They'll be playable. They'll either be nerfed to hell or let alone if they have significantly different movelists (like how Gouken and Sakura are shotos per se but play very different).

[Funky Fly]

Pretty much.

[Boomer]

It's done.

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[RoXer]

Hop on tonight. Let's test it out

[Boomer]

I have to go to a Christmas party in a few hours (girl I like is going), but maybe when I get back. Don't know when that will be though.

[RoXer]

Make sure your awsesome custom joystick is your first icebreaker

[Boomer]

She could mess with my custom joystick all she wanted.

[Drakul]

Ok, technical question here.

I've just discovered I can pull off a specific and unlikely move in a specific situation. I went out on a limb and randomly tried it during Arcade mode and that's when I found it worked.
I then went into training mode to see if I could pull it off again but I couldn't. I used the same characters in training that I was using in Arcade mode but I don't seem to be able to do it at all.

Is this something to do with frames or something more "advanced" that I don't understand?
If it's frames, any idea how I can learn exactly when to do it?

[Boomer]

I could play tonight, if anyone wants to. I'm fucking tired, but I'm just watching football all day tomorrow.

[RoXer]

I might in like an hour

[Kalyx triaD]

Ok, technical question here.

I've just discovered I can pull off a specific and unlikely move in a specific situation. I went out on a limb and randomly tried it during Arcade mode and that's when I found it worked.
I then went into training mode to see if I could pull it off again but I couldn't. I used the same characters in training that I was using in Arcade mode but I don't seem to be able to do it at all.

Is this something to do with frames or something more "advanced" that I don't understand?
If it's frames, any idea how I can learn exactly when to do it?

I'll need to know what happened. What did you do, and for what result?

[Drakul]

I did a fully charged focus attack on a grounded opponent, did the cancel thing as soon as it hit and pulled off an anti air move on them as they fell to their knees, which connected in Arcade mode.

I've been trying it over and over again in training and I can't reacreate it.

[Kalyx triaD]

I assume you did Hakan's Ultra where people fall on his belly? Yeah it connects. try it without the cancel up close, but I never did it myself. Got punished with it quite a few times.

[Drakul]

No, it wasn't Hakans Ultra 2, I could do that long ago.

If you want to know, It was the Siberian Blizzard. I could pull it off from almost any situation. In the air, as I got up etc. I just couldn't do it after a focus attack. I had tried in the past but assumed it just wasn't possible. Now I discover it is and I want to perfect it so I'll be able to pull it out online whenever I like.

[Kalyx triaD]

There's been cases where air grabs after FAs connected for certain characters. The size of the crumbling opponent may also effect the outcome.

Yeah, good luck with that!

[Drakul]

I thought the size of the character would be a factor, that's why I tried it on Rufus. I remember I grabbed Funky's T.Hawk with it when he was just standing there. Guess they were both just bugs.

I saw videos of a Mokoto bug that causes her to suddenly appear on the other side of her opponent.

I'm probably the only one that does this but I like finding new ways and situations to use a characters Ultras. Some are cool but not very effective like Seths Ex Multiple Shoryuken into his U2 and others are very helpful like Hakans FA into his U2. I just like trying out new situations.

[Drakul]

With the recent trailer of Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition that shows off more Yun and Yang gameplay, there’s a little spot at the end that teases us with Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma. A lot of us were wondering if these additions to the arcade version would see a console release via DLC and just like how Yoshinori Ono in this story made it his mission to try and get Yun and Yang into the HD console versions, it looks like the same attempt is going into brining over Shin Akuma and Evil Ryu.

According to one of my friends within Capcom, it’s the 3DS version of Super Street Fighter IV that will definitely have all characters in it, since that game is still in development. My source also revealed to me that Capcom may even include one new character in SSF4:3DE. Lips are tight in regards to whether the new character (if included) will be from an existing Street Fighter game or new altogether for the series. For now, here’s to seeing some Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma in action.

Source (http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2010/12/03/shin-akuma-and-evil-ryu-proposed-for-hd-dlc-will-be-in-3ds-version/).

[Drakul]

A 2 year old playing HD Remix as Zangief. I thought he was facing the AI but he's apparantly playing online. (Just got a case of Deja Vu typing this btw.)

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[Kalyx triaD]

He seems to be fighting another 2yo.

My 2yo nephew likes to press FP while walking forward, and he seems to have a crush on Makoto.

[Fignuts]

So wait, are yun and yang the only new playable characters we are getting?

[RoXer]

BEING ZANGIEF

[Kalyx triaD]

So wait, are yun and yang the only new playable characters we are getting?

Yun
Yang
Dark Ryu
Shin/Oni Akuma

...Gonna assume two more on the way. I hope.

[Drakul]

Yun
Yang
Dark Ryu
Shin/Oni Akuma

...Gonna assume two more on the way. I hope.

They would need two to even out the character select screen. They have Yun at one side and Yang at the other and I'm assuming they'll do the same with Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma but that would leave space for two more people.

I'm hoping it's interesting characters. Alex, Hugo, Poison, Birdie, Eagle, Ono's mum just anyone that's interesting and different. I'm not even caring who it is anymore because my picks of Mika, Rolento, Q & Sodom are not going to be in so I just want someone interesting and no Charlie or any other clones like Violent Ken or Bulimic Rufus or whatever.

[Kalyx triaD]

They could troll us and drop Juni and Juli.

[Fignuts]

So were Rolento, R. Mika and Sodom all confirmed as not in?

[Drakul]

So were Rolento, R. Mika and Sodom all confirmed as not in?

Rolento and Mika were deconfirmed but Sodom hasn't been but he's so unlikely anyway.

[Kalyx triaD]

Ah I see.

[Drakul]

There were Twitters and stuff from Ono saying the "Battle Director" didn't like Mika so she wouldn't be in.

Not sure where I read the Rolento thing but I know I read it about the same time as the Mika deconfirmation..

[Fignuts]

Are there any alpha characters left besides sodom? Dunno if I could see all the characters being from third strike.

[Drakul]

Birdie, Charlie, Karin, Sodom, Mika and Rolento I think are all that's left from Alpha.

[Fignuts]

Forgot about Birdie and Karin.

God I hope Birdie isn't one of them. Is Karin a sakura clone or what? How does she play?

[Drakul]

I don't know how she plays, that's probably something Kalyx could answer but I know she's not a Sakura clone. Birdie wouldn't be so bad, would he?

[Kalyx triaD]

Karin isn't a Sakura clone, she's not a shoto of any sort. She uses counters and physical strikes as specials, no chi attacks. I loved her.

[Fignuts]

They could throw us a curveball and give us a couple rival schools characters.

[Fignuts]

I'm just hoping for Alex, tbh.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/karin-btlr1.gif

[Fignuts]

I have Alpha 2 on PSN. Is she in that?

[Kalyx triaD]

Alpha 3.

[Drakul]

I wonder what a Create-A-Fighter would be like in SSFIV. Soul Calibur and Mortal Kombat have done it, why hasn't Street Fighter? If anyone could pull it off right, it's Capcom.

The closest they came was the spirte colour editor in CvS2 which I never really used.

It could be pretty simple yet indepth as well. We select a body type, alter it slightly and apply hair, clothing, tattoos, scars or whatever else.

Then assign moves and inputs from a selection. Maybe allowing slight modifications such as changing the angle of a hadouken so it gentley curves upwards or making a Spiral Arrow that went totally vertical.

Utras would be cool to mix and match, creating whole new ones. For example, starting with Abels U1 which ends not with the throw but with the last kick from Guiles U1 that sends you into the air, finishing up with the electricution from Vipers U2. If they went "all out" they could have some original pieces for us to use.

Then we just select what grunts/screams best suits the character (no actual speech) and, if we wish, type up a victory quote for each opponent for wins in Arcade mode/Versus.

It'll never happen but I would have really liked to have seen it and I'd have gotten alot of use out of it.

Just a random little idea of mine.

[Kalyx triaD]

I have an idea of how create-a-fighter could work in a 2D engine, but I rather not share that [here]. You're on the money, but my concept factors in priorities move that cross-matches with a ratio system that would take HP into consideration.

This sort of thing would need to be done in a whole new fighter, though. SSF4 is much too restrictive.

[Emperor Smeat]

There was a game called Fighter Maker on the PS2 that allowed someone to create their own fighting game with programmable moves but it was in 3D and not 2D style and perspective.

Same company also ended up creating RPG Maker but neither game was that great to begin with.

[Kalyx triaD]

I spent 24hrs in RPG Maker 2 making 15mins of gameplay.

Epic, detailed gameplay.

Never messed with Fighter Maker for a long enough time, but the options were weak from what I explored. The concept was too much for the console. They should have tried again.

[Drakul]

I had the first RPG maker for the PS1 imported. I enjoyed it but never actually made any complete games. I did try to make my own primitive Pacman game using the tools.

I heard of Fighter Maker and always wanted to try it but never got it.

Whatever happened to these creative games? I loved them. Music 2000, RPG maker, Fighter Maker etc.

It's all Space Marines and WW2 these days.

[Funky Fly]

Or space marines in WW2 if you're playing Darkest of Days.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, wish those games would come back around. Just think of them being combined with the current 'create-share-play' trend.

[Fignuts]

I am thinking of getting blazblue, along with my sticks. Anyone here still play that?

[Kalyx triaD]

Khuntry maybe. Never got a chance to scoop it up. Continuum Shift is great, though.

[Funky Fly]

Still need to get CS. Fucking missing out here.

[Fignuts]

Khuntry would annihilate me tho. That's not fun.

Funky, I demand you buy CS, because that's what I am getting.

[Kalyx triaD]

He annihilates me, but that's how I'm able to annihilate others.

Blazblue is his shit.

[Funky Fly]

God damn...

[Kalyx triaD]

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6636/2132434697view.jpg

Juri wants you to buy the new costume pack today.

[Kalyx triaD]

Alpha 3 Action:

Watch how the Ken player adapts to Guy's agility.

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[Kalyx triaD]

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[Funky Fly]

My god that Juni player...

Totally psyched out that Ryu at the end.

[Fignuts]

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6636/2132434697view.jpg

Juri wants you to buy the new costume pack today.

Oh hell yes. I've actually been using Adon and Ibuki a little more often, and I want to start learning Cody, so this is a great pack for me.

[Fignuts]

Anyone up for playing 2niiiiiiiite

[RoXer]

Probly like 2 hours

[Funky Fly]

meeeeeeeeeee

[Fignuts]

Alvarado, why the fuck did you leave so quick.

[Funky Fly]

Yeah, you were doing pretty good.

[Fignuts]

Ugh. Wanted revenge for that Ryu vs Chun li match. Totally choked there.

NOT MY BEST WORK, LADS

At least Juri was beasting it.

[Kalyx triaD]

The SF2 series is easily my least favorite SF series. Can't stand people saying "This is true SF" and shit like that. Ugh.

[Boomer]

Mad I didn't see this last night. Still haven't played online with the new stick. Haven't had much time to play with it at all, really.

[alvarado52]

Alvarado, why the fuck did you leave so quick.

Was tired, just wanted to get a couple games in. don't worry, I have no doubts you can whoop my ass in that game nine out of ten times.

[alvarado52]

I've been watching some old saved fights today...me and funky have had some epic battles in the past. Our Abel vs Abel mirror match was crazy intense.

[Boomer]

It's on right now, everybody.

[RoXer]

Be there in a bit

[Boomer]

Why can I not see the new DLC costumes in game? I can see all the other ones without owning them.

[Fignuts]

There is a new catalog to download. First one was only for the first three packs. It's free.

[Boomer]

K I'm DLing it, then I'll be back in.

[Boomer]

Basically useless if I'm not Bison still. Maybe Guile. Maybe.

[Boomer]

Certainly still getting used to the new stick. Having trouble with charge motions about 25% of the time. Definitely haven't gotten the feel of it just yet.

[Fignuts]

Oh shit sorry, didn't see that message. Will still throw down some more if you want.

[Fignuts]

Fucking botched juri's ex air kick > Ultra combo like 4 times.

A day ago, I could hit that shit in my sleep. Dunno what happened.

Also, not to trash talk or anything, but throwing roxer 3 times in a row was the most blissful experience I've had since buying this game. Ah, sweet vengeance.

[Blitz]

I should not be able to not touch this game for a solid month and a half and then come back and beat Khuntry, even if it was just once. <3 Guy.

[Fignuts]

Blitz, get back online and fight, damn you. Didn't even get to play against you.

[Blitz]

At my girlfriend's. No Xbox.

[Fignuts]

criminey

[Fignuts]

Playing funky's brother if anyone wants in

[Funky Fly]

I'll try and join you, if it doesn't lag out too bad.

[Khuntry]

I should not be able to not touch this game for a solid month and a half and then come back and beat Khuntry, even if it was just once. <3 Guy.

Your Guy caught me by suprise.

[Fignuts]

Some are terrible, some are brilliant.

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[RoXer]

Nice. Anyone wanna play tonight?

[Blitz]

Eggman Rufus, amazing.

Ninja Vega also looked hot :'(

[Drakul]

Lol, I hope this was intentionally bad.

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[Kalyx triaD]

My god...

[Khuntry]

Yeah... because street fighter is all about the fucking cutscenes...

[#BROKEN Hasney]

He has a point, I think SF4 was so much better realising that Gouken was sleeping on a rock for fucking years in full-screen HD.

[Kalyx triaD]

Seriously though SFA2 was fucking hot.

[Blitz]

I don't know what to say to that video.

[Funky Fly]

lol all game guides were like that, black in the day. If you didn't know, you just made shit up.

[Blitz]

Anyone down tonight?

[RoXer]

Yeah bump

[Funky Fly]

Might be on later. Phone keeps blowing up every 5 min today, but if I am on, my brother probably will too.

[Drakul]

Not really SF related but sort of SF related. I don't want to put it in the 100,000 replies thread.

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It's funny cos it's true.

[Kalyx triaD]

That Juri anime is not coming to the US. Apparently there was no demand. Strange, being that they dubbed the trailer and localization would have been nice for the fans.

[Drakul]

That's not the story I heard.
They (Capcom Europe) said before SSFIV even released that the anime wouldn't make it outside of Japan because the LE of the regular SFIV didn't sell well (even though every shop and site I visted was constantly sold out. I had pre ordered, luckily).

When people found this out, everyone kept asking over and over again for the anime to be released outside Japan. Capcom then said it wasn't being released because of "legal" issues.

[Kalyx triaD]

I got this information from Ono himself, perhaps they're all part of the whole story. In any case it wasn't worth it to Capcom. Shame.

[Drakul]

Looks like I can stop waiting and just watch a subbed version on YouTube later.

[Fignuts]

AE is out.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah seen some vids of gameplay. Yun looks pretty versatile and Yang is okay. No sign of Dark Ryu and Shin Akuma, and there's rumors of other time released characters in the game.

[Drakul]

I read somewhere, this morning, that Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma are just bosses and not playable. I can't remember where. Maybe Eventhubs.

[Kalyx triaD]

That's understandable, if they're still balancing them for home release. Hopefully we get other characters.

[Kalyx triaD]

On now. I'm being experimental tonight. Using the SF4 fight pad now.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I read somewhere, this morning, that Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma are just bosses and not playable. I can't remember where. Maybe Eventhubs.

While I can understand that for online, I'm not buying if I can't play as them at all.

[Drakul]

I'll annouce about Nintendo 3DS, SSFIV DLC new future, and SF x TK in 2011!! Could be wait it's news for the near future. ;D

Source (http://twitter.com/Yoshi_OnoChin/status/22509582404296704#).

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm pretty surprised myself that I'm saying this, but Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition was one of the best examples of 3D I saw at Nintendo World. The game uses 3D in three ways, and they all work brilliantly.

Most superficially, there's the added depth the 3D effect provides for non-gameplay screens. The character select screen, for example, looks like it's layered, with your character artwork on one layer, the character selection icons on another layer, the text on another layer, the world map on the far back layer, and so-forth. It's a cool effect that has to be seen. The game uses similar layering effects for all the splash screens.

3D is also put to excellent use during combat, even when viewing the action from the traditional side view perspective. The stages I played had a tremendous feeling of depth. As with the layering effects, this is all just for show, but it looks utterly cool.

Finally, and this was most surprising for me, the game's new over-the-shoulder view, referred to officially as "Dynamic View," is actually playable thanks to the use of 3D. To play this mode, you have to separate your senses from the fact that the action is tilted into the screen and play just like you would when playing in 2D. This proves to not be difficult, as the gameplay is still strictly 2D.

With 3D turned on, this viewpoint works, although I'm not sure if I'd necessarily want to play the game in this fashion all the time. I tried the mode with the 3D turned off, though, and found it to be totally unplayable, presumably because of difficulties judging depth. It looks like Dynamic View really depends on the 3D effect, making it unique amongst most of the 3DS games at Nintendo World.

The Nintendo World demo had you select between the Dynamic View mode and the Normal View mode at the demo's start, before going through character select. It's unclear if Capcom will let you more easily toggle between the two views -- perhaps by going into the pause menu. The two views do appear to be interchangeable. During internet play, one player can use the traditional view while the other uses the Dynamic View.

Outside of the viewpoint options and the general coolness resulting from the 3D, Super SFIV 3D Edition looks and plays just like its counterparts on other systems. Of course, the 3DS's control layout may cause concern for some. I didn't have any trouble, but I'm admittedly not a hardcore fighting game player.

During the fight, the bottom screen shows panels with pre-assigned moves and special moves. You can tap these panels to get difficult moves out easily. Of course, this is strictly optional. Based off the trailer Capcom showed at the event, the panel system appears to be in place to allow for beginner players to more easily challenge advanced players.

The Nintendo World build had arcade and story modes available for play. Story mode shows fully voiced animation on the top screen prior to fights.

The event trailer made mention of additional features like the "Channel Live" live viewing mode and download play. Download play sounds particularly generous, as people who've downloaded the game can share it with others as well.

I'm not sure if it's an MT Framework thing, but Resident Evil Revelations and Super Street Fighter IV (both MT Framework titles) had the smoothest 3D visuals amongst the Nintendo World games that I played (and I played most of the big ones). This is impressive for Super SFIV in particular, as its gameplay is strictly 2D, even in the Dynamic View mode where 3D view support is essential.

Super SFIV has been out on consoles for some time now and is now out in arcades as well. But fighting fans will still want to give the new 3D edition a look when it launches with the 3DS next month.

[Fignuts]

No desire to buy a game I already own in 3d.

[Kalyx triaD]

Gonna buy the hell out of this.

[Funky Fly]

Not really big on fighters on Handheld systems. Just doesn't work for me.

[Fignuts]

Will you beable to play GBA games on the 3DS?

[Funky Fly]

No. DS, DSiWare, Virtual Console and 3DS only.

[Fignuts]

hmmmmm suppose there is a chance GBA games could come to VC.

[Funky Fly]

Or you could hang on to your GBA/DS/DS Lite.

Or you could get an emulator.

[Drakul]

hmmmmm suppose there is a chance GBA games could come to VC.

They confirmed that they would be doing that for the 3DS VC. Didn't they?

I'm buying SSFIV3D for sure, when I pick up the 3DS.

[Drakul]

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

They confirmed that they would be doing that for the 3DS VC. Didn't they?

Still only rumored.

I reckon if it's coming, they'll announce it with the dates and price on Jan 15th.

[Drakul]

3DS gameplay from four angles.

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They seem to have added extra visual effects to Ryus Ultra.

[Drakul]

Well, I'll start getting ready about annouce of SSFIVAE's something&SFxTK !!It's timing after release of SSFIV3DE. http://p.twipple.jp/4C4nt
about 1 hour ago via ついっぷる/twipple

Source (http://twitter.com/Yoshi_OnoChin/status/24675645883678721).

Guessing he'll be announcing it's DLC and giving us a release date? I don't know what the SF x T thing will be, though. A new trailer, maybe?

[Fignuts]

Still hoping for a few more characters besides Yun and Yang.

[Drakul]

Still hoping for a few more characters besides Yun and Yang.

Well, Ono tweeted this a while ago:

I want bring back one or two of these.... ;P RT @Humpski:We miss seeing Karin, Elena, Hugo, Alex and Poison in Capcom games... :(
about 2 hours ago via ついっぷる/twipple

Source (http://twitter.com/Yoshi_OnoChin/status/25027356309590017#).

So we might get someone else. You never know.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Drakul]

Looks good for a handheld game. Would look much better on the actual 3DS, I'd imagine. I've preordered this along with the 3DS. I want OoT but there's no sign of it on the GAME website and I don't think I could afford both at once along with a 3DS.

I'm really hoping I get some use out of SSFIV3DE's other features like the trophy battle etc. I can't see it, myself.

[Kalyx triaD]

Street Fighter on the go is reason enough, I guess. Bear in mind Arcade Edition DLC will be looming by the time this drops so practical training applications will be kinda moot, but it still looks good fun.

[Drakul]

AE DLC is still a while away. Ono isn't announcing the DLC until after SSFIV3D goes on sale, so I'd think it would come out around early June.
Maybe the 3DS will get DLC as well?

[Kalyx triaD]

That's an interesting prospect.

[Drakul]

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[Drakul]

Here's that trailer from before but in English. Some small things I didn't know about without the English subtitles.
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Am I understanding this right, at 1:38, the boy sends his friend the game signal to play the game with just one card. Presumabley the boy sending the signal is the one with the card. Then the 3rd friend comes over and the boy sends the signal to her and then leaves the two friends playing without either of them having the card, right?

Just so I know, who is planning to get this for the 3DS. I want to know if I'll be going aginst random people or you guys.

[Kalyx triaD]

Me! Me!

[Drakul]

Is that "Me! Me!" a sign of excitement or is it sarcasm as in "Yeah, because I want to buy the same game for a third time"? I can't tell sometimes.

Also, I recently discovered a secret pocket in my coat after having it for just over 2 years. I can fit my old original DS in the pocket easily. It has a zip and is in a position that no one can reach without me noticing.
Looks like I can use the Street Pass functions of SSFIV3D and my 3DS in general without fear of it being stolen after all.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Depends if there's any 3DS's left in April and what the bundles are like. Probably 3rd priority behind Pilotwings and PES.

[Kalyx triaD]

You think I wouldn't buy SSF4 for 3DS?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Depends if you're going to buy an actual 3DS

[Kalyx triaD]

It's queued up.

[Drakul]

Depends if there's any 3DS's left in April and what the bundles are like. Probably 3rd priority behind Pilotwings and PES.

I can see there being another "shortage" like they had with the Wii. The DS sold really well so, once they start promoting the 3DS and point out how it's a DS but better and in 3D, I can see everyone wanting one.
It would have made a lot more sense to launch it at Christmas, from a money making point of view, IMO.

You think I wouldn't buy SSF4 for 3DS?

I wasn't sure if you would be getting a 3DS anytime soon.

I've had a thought. Do you think we could use the 3DS mics to talk during play or while we're spectating?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I can see there being another "shortage" like they had with the Wii. The DS sold really well so, once they start promoting the 3DS and point out how it's a DS but better and in 3D, I can see everyone wanting one.
It would have made a lot more sense to launch it at Christmas, from a money making point of view, IMO.

There's only 4 million worldwide for launch...



I wasn't sure if you would be getting a 3DS anytime soon.

I've had a thought. Do you think we could use the 3DS mics to talk during play or while we're spectating?


Some DS games had voice chat so I can't see why not. Might be friends only, but I have no problem with that.

[Funky Fly]

I will wait. Can go a year without.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Although you can assign things to the touch screen like one touch Ultras and the like, you can go into "Pro Mode" online which will not map Specials/Supers/Ultras to the screen. Good compromise.

[Drakul]

Looks like a new DLC character could have maybe possibly been leaked...maybe.

At 1:50 in this video you see an icon with a picture of Hugo right above M. Bison, by the players name:
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Or you could look at this screenshot:
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/01/21_hugoicon.jpg

Some think it's confirmation that Hugo is another DLC character for the AE DLC while others think it's just there because he's in the background of the Metro City stage. I think the DLC option seems more likely. A new grappler for me!

I wonder if they'll have another new character somewhere. We got Yun and Yang and then we got Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma so, following that pattern, we would eventually get an official reveal of Hugo and someone else, wouldn't we?

Another pattern is that the two characters are connected in game. Yun and Yang are a team, Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma are obviously involved storywise (right?) so it would probably be someone relating to Hugo. Either Poison or Alex, then, I'd say.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm thinking Karin, a lot of 3rd Strike reps as it is. I'm biased.

[Drakul]

Q would be nice even though I'm sure he was confirmed as not being in.
Of all the 3rd strike characters, he's the one I'm interested in the most. As I've said a few dozen times, I've never played 3rd Strike so I'm just going by videos.

[Fignuts]

Really want Alex in.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Sean dammit.

[Khuntry]

Yes Alex...

[Drakul]

Evil Ryu and Oni Akuma have finally appeared in AE. Here's the first grainy footage of them:
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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Fuck... Yes...

Even mr. Blurrycam can't douse my boner upon seeing that.

[Drakul]

I'm curious why Akuma is standing/walking like Gouken, though.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Gouken is so massive because he is ONI, he's just been able to control it. Alums just wants to use it's full potential no matter how unstable and Ryu is technically just on the level of Akuma, although seeing parts of that video may mean he's at least Shin now.

[Drakul]

Some more videos and screens:

Screens:
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/01/22_oniakeryu01.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/01/22_oniakeryu02.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/01/22_oniakeryu03.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/01/22_oniakeryu04.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/01/22_oniakeryu05.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/01/22_oniakeryu06.jpg

Video (7 in total):
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[Kalyx triaD]

Oh fuck...

[Kalyx triaD]

Oni Akuma

• People are comparing Oni more to Gouken than to Akuma. He looks slower and his sweep is different from Akuma's. Regular fireballs don't travel full screen (don't know the strength of the punch button, though, but Red Fireball like ones do travel full screen). His air dash seem to have some recovery, too.

• Has a new teleport/air dash move by doing quarter-circle back + 3x Punches.

• Very low health, some people are speculating the same as Akuma, 850.

• His 'Gouken Palm' special crosses up and it might be fireball invincible.

• Ultra 2 is Akuma's Ground Pound Super Art (Kongou Kokuretsu Zan) from Third Strike. Looks to have the same command, too. Down, Down + 3x Punch.

Evil Ryu

• Evil Ryu's most closely resembles Akuma in Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition. Many of their moves are very similar. A few examples: Far Standing Hard Punch is the same, Crouching Hard Kick (sweep) is slightly slower, Hurricane Kick can juggle into a Shoryuken and it doesn't break armor.

• Akuma's Fireball, Red Fireball, Shoryuken, Hurricane Kick, Demon Flip and Teleport all look to be pretty close to what Evil Ryu can do. It looks like the major tricks Akuma can perform, like cross up Hurricane Kicks and Demon Flip traps, so can Evil Ryu.

• Has a new special move, appears to be quarter-circle forward + Hard Kick. This performs an Axe Kick with an exaggerated animation.

• He definitely has low health (stamina), probably some where around Akuma's, I'd guess 850.

• Evil Ryu's Crouching Medium Kick is like the one in Third Strike.

• His Super is a Raging Demon.

• Ultra 1 is a souped up Fireball. This mostly closely resembles normal Gouken's Ultra 2, as it appears that you can charge it up and then release it.

• Toward + Medium Kick does a lunging Hop Kick, but it doesn't hit overhead.

[Kalyx triaD]

Watching the stream and I'm gonna make a call;

Oni Akuma is the most powerful character in SF canon. Stronger than Oro (using both arms), stronger than Gill, stronger than Shin Bison, stronger than Akuma's own Shin form. His animations are terrifying. His fight intro shows him breaking off his signature beads and the beads orbit him a bit. Crazy. You must see his new Mountain Breaker. He should have been put in MvC3 as a cross-promotion thing.

Ryu has this hole in his chest so people are assuming Akuma did something to make Ryu go crazy. His animations look more like SNK's Riot of the Blood than Dark Hadou. He has Denjin Hadoken (same as Gouken) and a suped up Shoryu-Reppa as Ultras.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'M GIDDY

[Kalyx triaD]

I want to know what RoXer (Akuma) and Khuntry (Ryu, Gouken) thinks about these characters, and if they're thinking about switching up.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Well I use Akuma a lot (or did before Ibuki) and the style is looking so different that it's a brand new character more than anything. Sooooo glad the ground pound is back though.

Evil Ryu is essentially Akuma with some tweaks, so it'd be more likely I'd go that way.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Fuck, I just seen that ultra. The style of him flying up after him looking like that is incredible.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'd hazard a guess Evil Ryu is better than Akuma. That axe kick/stomp thing looks as useful as Makoto's chop (especially EX version).

Find it interesting Japan is calling Ryu 'Evil' instead of 'Dark' or 'Killing Intent'. Guess it lessens confusion. I could be reading it wrong, though.

[RoXer]

Trying not to view too many videos. I want to be surprised when I play it

[#BROKEN Hasney]

There's a thought that ONI is actually Akuma and Gouken merged, or with Akuma stealing Goukens essence...

[Kalyx triaD]

That or he embraced the Power of Nothingness that Gouken uses. It certainly looks different from Dark Hadou.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

Oni/E.Ryu Animated Endings:

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-Nice callback to Akuma's mountain breaker ending from way back. And Evil Ryu is suffering the Dark Hadou like SNK's Riot of the Blood.-

A lot of people are hating on the idea of two more shotos, even though one if barely a shoto per se and E.Ryu seems like a fine addition according to players. Not to mention they've got more coverage in 24hrs than Yun/Yang did when AE came out.

The character select screen seems to show an obvious two slots left, and I would take a look at that tweet from Ono hinting at two from a set of fighters could be in. One may very well be Hugo. So if there's a 'theme' with the characters added; Yun and Yang are twins, Oni and E.Ryu from the Dark Hadou plot, then Hugo could be joined by his 3s rival Alex. Or be joined by another Third Striker in general (Elena). Or the pair will be split between 3s and Alpha reps (Rolento or Karin).

There is no reason to believe Poison would be added. I don't really know why people believe that so badly.

These are my guess.

[Drakul]

As I said before, there clearly is a theme to the characters. They come in two and are linked somehow.

Hugo is cleary one of the last two so it's likely that Alex will be the other one. I'd personally like Rolento, R.Mika, Sodom, Birdie (you'll be noticing a pattern here), Q or Poison as a "new character".

People think Poison could be added because she had a moveset and eveything thought up for some fighting game that was cancelled so it's just a case of transfering them to SSFIV plus she's linked to Hugo so it would fit with the theme. The DLC lacks anything resembling a female so Poison would even that out a bit.

Poison is unlikely though because Ono said ages ago that due to the "confusion" over her gender it would be too difficult to put her into a SF game. Retcon her back to a female, like she was always supposed to be and everything is fine. No confusion. The only reason there was the confusion was because everyone was uptight about hitting women in games. It's fine now, so you can retcon that or whatever.

Elena, R.Mika and Rolento have all be said by Ono not to be in for varying reasons. So it's probably going to be Alex.

[Drakul]

All Evil Ryu and Oni Akuma videos are being deleted, some accounts are being suspended for them aswell.

Apparantly they were not supposed to be revealed yet and it's likely they were unlocked by a password or something. Ono spoke about them on his Twitter and got in trouble for doing so. Or so says Eventhubs.

I don't see what the big deal is. They revealed them already, it's not like two completely secret characters were leaked.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well if you consider they just appeared with no official character trailers and out of schedule then I can understand why that would bother Capcom. Don't see why Ono would get chewed out, not like he gave the arcade code away. Whoever did probably spilled the XBLive achievements for them as well.

They should jump on damage control and get those trailers out, but most likely they'll ask arcade operators to reset there units and lock them again. It's a lot of free buzz and people were very excited for them.

[Kalyx triaD]

Just had a quick session with my bro and I hate that I play way better offline than online. Not talking about lag or anything, I just think different and make stupid moves that I wouldn't do otherwise. Ugh.

[Drakul]

Nonshaking, nongrainy gameplay:

Can't embed it (http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/evil-ryu-vs-oni-akuma-ssf4-ae/354569?playlist=featured).

[Drakul]

European Boxart:
http://img.game.co.uk/ml/3/5/3/5/353543ps_500h.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Surprised it's not showing some cheesy shot of Ryu punching out of the screen or something like that.

Would have been cool if they added an exclusive character like KARIN or somebody as added incentive. Though I would have went with Juni/Juli or Sean with most of their assets already in their (Juni/Juli can have Cammy's body and Sean can use a modified shoto body). Then it's just new animations, voice work, music, and a wee bit more. game's stacked as it is, just thinking up added stuff.

[Drakul]

The US boxart could still have that cheesy shot. You never know.
I'm surprised it's Bison at the top of the box. I'd have thought it would have been Seth and/or Juri.

Any character they added as incentive would have had to have been added to the console versions or people would complain, missing the whole point of an incentive.
They could have an incentive in the form of giving the 3DS version the AE DLC before the consoles get it, if 3DS gets DLC. Thats my suggestion for an incentive, no proof or anything suggesting they'd do that.

[Kalyx triaD]

They should jump on damage control and get those trailers out, but most likely they'll ask arcade operators to reset there units and lock them again.

Aaaaaaand that's exactly what went down today. Capcom has 'asked' arcade owners to re-lock Oni and E.Ryu. Guess we'll have to wait for official reveals in the future.

Pretty sure Capcom won't be locking characters in arcades in the future, they'll go and embrace the arcade DLC network that SNK and others took to.

[Kalyx triaD]

I hate the shoulder 'triggers' on the PS3 controller. Everything else is great, but jumping with a random HP or HK pisses me off.

Anyway, anybody with a PS3 who wants to fight TPWW champ are out of excuses for two whole days before I lose access to all things online gaming.

I'm throwing out random punches and kicks in the air, I'm totally free have the time.

Kalyx = Undefeated on PSN (Sakura)