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Fignuts
02-27-2009, 10:55 AM
That's why I stick to player matches. Even if I get really good, chances are I won't even break top 4,000, so I don't even bother with ranked.
jcmoorehead
02-27-2009, 11:18 AM
I cannot buy a fucking win I swear to god.
I'm taking this thing back. I want to cry.
You got the PS3 Version? Play me, that'll get you a few dozen or so wins.
Fignuts
02-27-2009, 11:19 AM
Everyone here has the 360 version.
Fryza
02-27-2009, 12:36 PM
Just unlocked Akuma. Won't be able to unlock Gouken, so I'm good there.
Boomer
02-27-2009, 12:54 PM
Hopefully the Championship Mode Expansion Pack will fix at least some issues with PvP matching.
Kalyx triaD
02-27-2009, 04:22 PM
Khuntry's revealed my skills to be lacking. I must train harder. Much harder.
Boomer
02-27-2009, 04:25 PM
I probably won't pop my head out of SF hiding until I get used to my EX2. It's taking a while.
Kalyx triaD
02-27-2009, 04:26 PM
Getting a stick and then needing to get used to it is kinda contradictory, ain't it?
Boomer
02-27-2009, 04:30 PM
No. I'm a fighting game fan and I understand that I will succeed better with a stick than anything else in the long run, but I have never played fighting games more than casually. I have to practice rolls and the like just like plenty of other people.
And also, even if I was skilled with a stick, I probably would want to get warmed up to the feel of a new one.
ClockShot
02-27-2009, 04:30 PM
God, it's probably gonna take me a whole day to unlock Cammy with Crimson Viper. What a pain in the ass to play with.
Kalyx triaD
02-27-2009, 04:32 PM
Boomer: I see. The breaking-in process often takes some time, add to that SF4 unique timing.
Kalyx triaD
02-27-2009, 04:32 PM
God, it's probably gonna take me a whole day to unlock Cammy with Crimson Viper. What a pain in the ass to play with.
She's pretty straightforward. Just put it on easy, anyway.
Blitz
02-27-2009, 06:45 PM
Picked it up today. Dig it so far. I will get thrashed online though.
Khuntry
02-27-2009, 07:15 PM
Khuntry's revealed my skills to be lacking. I must train harder. Much harder.
Your Cammy's pretty solid tho. But i'd love to play against these other guys. Gamertag: KHUNTRY:cool:
Khuntry
02-27-2009, 07:17 PM
Im so in love with Rose, especially in her alternate costume. very Hot
Kalyx triaD
02-27-2009, 07:54 PM
Im so in love with Rose, especially in her alternate costume. very Hot
That Italian whore. I like her, really, but you turned her into some kind of monster. Her alternate is cool, though. Very unexpected.
.44 Magdalene
02-27-2009, 10:18 PM
I know I've said it before, but let me re-emphasize.
I am so fucking god damn tired of the fucking shotospam.
Player picks Ken. Hadokenhadokenhadokenhadokenhadoken. I jump over that shit, drill kick down at him and--Shoryukenshoryukenshoryukendragonkickdragonkickshoryukenhadokenhadokenshoryuken. Because every fucking move Ken has is DURHURSPINTHESTICKSMASHTHEBUTTON. I'll be in the middle of a sweep and get Ultra'd. I'll be in the middle of a grab and get Ultra'd. I'll be in the middle of EX Hooligan Throw and get Ultra'd. The worst part is the fucking Ultra because people will learn to do Ken's Ultra to compensate for sucking at the game. I'll whoop their fucking ass all round long, only for them to get rewarded for their shitty shotospam by I SPUN THE STICK AND PUSHED A BUNCH OF BUTTONS, SUDDENLY I'M WINNING!!!!1111!!!!
And every. God damn player. Is Ken. Or a shitty variant of Ken that they'll try to play like Ken. I got up to 850 BP, only to get knocked down by a procession of Ken-Ken-Gouken-Ken-Ryu-Gouken-Akuma-Ken-Ken-Akuma-Akuma-Ken. Toss in a few E. Hondas to HEADBUTTHEADBUTTHEADBUTT (and then he'll just highkick/sweep spam/panic when I get close), and you have me throwing the controller, punching shit and otherwise frightening my girlfriend.
God fucking dammit. I finally got the hang of countering Zangief's Magical Unstoppable Lariat, but I still get put down by zero BP newbie ass fucking scrub nigger "I CAN SPIIIIN THE STICK AND PUUUUSH THE BUTTONS" Ken players. It's one thing that he's so easy to use, but does the fucking Shoryuken need to have priority over every goddamn move ever, plus be pullable from wakeup, plus interrupt EX moves and Supers 9/10ths of the time? I mean, fucking really? Jesus Goddamn fucking tapdancing nigger fucking Christ.
.44 Magdalene
02-27-2009, 10:20 PM
And the Akuma players will usually set their Ranked matches to one round, so they can go spam crazy and by the time you've gotten their patterns down the entire fucking fight is over. And one round fights are worth as much as two out of three or three out of five, so one silly mistake on my part and HEY HEY HEY IT'S ULTRA TIME! You lose 70 BP, congratulations.
Kalyx triaD
02-27-2009, 11:25 PM
LOL That's the greatest rant I ever read on the game.
You're most likely giving scrubs too much credit in the match. Just relax and observe, you'll find that they are predictable scrubs who set themselves up for a fall more often than not. Keep that anger in check, you read like someone who lets his emotions run his game. Keep your Yomi level as high as 1 or 2 and you'll see how stupid these scrubs really are.
Me and Khuntry's latest session didn't end so one sided this time. My mental training and option-brainstorming helped me out. And my Ken seems more dangerous as a result. Awesome. And Cammy's finally getting at a level I want her to be.
HeartBreakMan2k
02-27-2009, 11:30 PM
My Sagat is still disgustingly beastly. I tend not to use him though if I can help it because beyond my being good with him, I also understand how strong he is in this version. My Gen is becoming VERY acceptable and I fucking love using him because you don't see a lot of him which makes him touch to defend. My Cammy is getting better. I'd like to have a decent Dhalsim but I just don't have the patience. I've also given up on my quest to become a strong Abel player. He plays too defensive/counter attack based for my liking and I get raped when I use him as result.
Also, fuck people who are actaully good with Abel. They make me hate life.
Boomer
02-27-2009, 11:39 PM
Bison is my main (and only really), and for the love of god I forget to keep the charge after using it most of the time. I would probably lose to all of you I imagine...I turtle far too much.
Kalyx triaD
02-27-2009, 11:40 PM
Abel used right is frustrating.
Kalyx triaD
02-27-2009, 11:42 PM
Bison is my main (and only really), and for the love of god I forget to keep the charge after using it most of the time. I would probably lose to all of you I imagine...I turtle far too much.
Your lack of fighting spirit makes me sick. Be gone, weakling. The fight decides the outcome, not you or me! :mad:
Fignuts
02-28-2009, 12:55 AM
Actually, I find Abel plays better on the attack. Marsielles roll should be used more for posistioning than as a defensive move. Abel's only big defensive move is his anti air throw. The Change of Direction move should be the move you use most, as there are lots of ways to link into it, and it's follow up can hit high or low, making it unpredictable.
Fignuts
02-28-2009, 01:05 AM
Also magdalene, Gouken may be a shoto from a story perspective, but he plays nothing like them.
HeartBreakMan2k
02-28-2009, 01:37 AM
I may have to give Abel another shot. I just outright could not do what I wanted with him. His change of direction is great though, I will agree with that.
Blitz
02-28-2009, 02:18 AM
Playing around today, I found myself maybe the most interested in what I could do with Abel. Might put some time into learning him.
Feel like I might be able to try a half decent Fei Long as well.
Blitz
02-28-2009, 02:37 AM
I fucking hate computer controlled Zangief, btw. Fucking grabs you at will.
Funky Fly
02-28-2009, 05:26 PM
I know I've said it before, but let me re-emphasize.
I am so fucking god damn tired of the fucking shotospam.
Player picks Ken. Hadokenhadokenhadokenhadokenhadoken. I jump over that shit, drill kick down at him and--Shoryukenshoryukenshoryukendragonkickdragonkickshoryukenhadokenhadokenshoryuken. Because every fucking move Ken has is DURHURSPINTHESTICKSMASHTHEBUTTON. I'll be in the middle of a sweep and get Ultra'd. I'll be in the middle of a grab and get Ultra'd. I'll be in the middle of EX Hooligan Throw and get Ultra'd. The worst part is the fucking Ultra because people will learn to do Ken's Ultra to compensate for sucking at the game. I'll whoop their fucking ass all round long, only for them to get rewarded for their shitty shotospam by I SPUN THE STICK AND PUSHED A BUNCH OF BUTTONS, SUDDENLY I'M WINNING!!!!1111!!!!
And every. God damn player. Is Ken. Or a shitty variant of Ken that they'll try to play like Ken. I got up to 850 BP, only to get knocked down by a procession of Ken-Ken-Gouken-Ken-Ryu-Gouken-Akuma-Ken-Ken-Akuma-Akuma-Ken. Toss in a few E. Hondas to HEADBUTTHEADBUTTHEADBUTT (and then he'll just highkick/sweep spam/panic when I get close), and you have me throwing the controller, punching shit and otherwise frightening my girlfriend.
God fucking dammit. I finally got the hang of countering Zangief's Magical Unstoppable Lariat, but I still get put down by zero BP newbie ass fucking scrub nigger "I CAN SPIIIIN THE STICK AND PUUUUSH THE BUTTONS" Ken players. It's one thing that he's so easy to use, but does the fucking Shoryuken need to have priority over every goddamn move ever, plus be pullable from wakeup, plus interrupt EX moves and Supers 9/10ths of the time? I mean, fucking really? Jesus Goddamn fucking tapdancing nigger fucking Christ.
god damn, son :eek:
You would hate Ken from Capcom vs SNK 2 so much. He is pariority whore in that gamn AND he has the overhead kick that Sean has in Street Fighter 3.
Kalyx triaD
02-28-2009, 05:30 PM
I loved that overhead wheel kick. I WANT IT BACK. And the knee bashes.
Funky Fly
02-28-2009, 05:39 PM
Yeah, but it kills balance. To date, Ken is the only character to be banned from that game. Shin Akuma and Ultimate Rugal? Completely fine.
Kalyx triaD
02-28-2009, 05:52 PM
I see nothing in SvC2 Ken that makes him ban worthy.
Funky Fly
02-28-2009, 06:03 PM
He does have priority like a motherfucker in that game for some reason. He is nigh untouchable.
Kalyx triaD
02-28-2009, 06:05 PM
Is this a 'gun in a child's hands' thing or a 'nuclear codes in a child's hands' thing.
Funky Fly
02-28-2009, 06:18 PM
Gun in a child's hands. He can be beaten, but I have an easier time fighting someone playing just about anyone else.
Kalyx triaD
02-28-2009, 06:32 PM
I see.
Khuntry
02-28-2009, 10:17 PM
SvC chaos sucks ass
Khuntry
02-28-2009, 10:22 PM
All this talk of strategies and theories boosts my fighting spirit.
Kalyx triaD
02-28-2009, 11:00 PM
All this talk of strategies and theories boosts my fighting spirit.
Easy, Ironhide.
Khuntry
03-01-2009, 12:07 AM
Easy, Ironhide.
LOL "Can i Shoot it with my canon?"
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 12:15 AM
My bro's hoggin the 'Box for some CoD marathon, so I didn't touch SF4 all day.
Drakul, good fights yesterday - though I imagine we both could have put on a better show.
Fignuts
03-01-2009, 03:58 AM
Finally had a day of mostly wins today.
A couple scrubs but most of the matches were against people with skill, although not quite on roxer's level. This one guy gets mad at me for beating him apparently, and goes straight for seth. But, as I said, seth is balanced in human hands, and I proved it by demolishing him the first round with akuma, and getting a perfect in the second. Cocksucker disconected after the final hit tho, so I don't think I got credit for it.
Fignuts
03-01-2009, 04:00 AM
Had an epic Gouken vs sagat match that ended in a double K.O.
Funky Fly
03-01-2009, 04:02 AM
Wanna play this so fucking bad.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-01-2009, 04:53 AM
Yo, just realised that Time Attack stage 11 has just remixed SF2 tunes. Anyway to put these on for playing the main game? :(
Mr. Monday Morning
03-01-2009, 08:26 AM
Haven't played SF since Super II but I'm really really interested in getting this. Would need a proper stick/pad though cause I tried playing II when it came out on Live and it was impossible.
I get the feeling by the time I actually get the thing and practice enough to get to a decent level everyone will have moved on to something else :o
Khuntry
03-01-2009, 11:32 AM
Yo, just realised that Time Attack stage 11 has just remixed SF2 tunes. Anyway to put these on for playing the main game? :(
Unfortunately there's no way:(
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 12:45 PM
I play with HD Remix tunes via Custom Soundtracks.
RoXer
03-01-2009, 01:07 PM
I'm never playing with Khuntry every again.
I'm not one to call "bullshit" too often, but that was a bit much. I don't mind grapplers, I can execute a good stratagy around it but that was redicoulus. You were 500 yards away, executed a grab, and it somehow got me. Every time.
Maybe a little bit of hyperbole there but there was PLENTY of space between you and me and you somehow got the grab 100% of the time.
Or there were times when you would get me on the recovery. I haven't even begun my kip-up motion, you execute a grab, I kip-up into your crossed arms from the missed grab, and next thing I know I'm being shoulder thrown. I think the final sttraw was when you special grabbed as Zangief and I couldn't do anything to prevent it.
You are real good, no doubt. But my tiny, fragile heart cannot handle such bullshit.
RoXer
03-01-2009, 01:09 PM
Now I know how Kalyx feels when he plays me in SC4
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 01:23 PM
I'm never playing with Khuntry every again.
I'm not one to call "bullshit" too often, but that was a bit much. I don't mind grapplers, I can execute a good stratagy around it but that was redicoulus. You were 500 yards away, executed a grab, and it somehow got me. Every time.
Maybe a little bit of hyperbole there but there was PLENTY of space between you and me and you somehow got the grab 100% of the time.
Or there were times when you would get me on the recovery. I haven't even begun my kip-up motion, you execute a grab, I kip-up into your crossed arms from the missed grab, and next thing I know I'm being shoulder thrown. I think the final sttraw was when you special grabbed as Zangief and I couldn't do anything to prevent it.
You are real good, no doubt. But my tiny, fragile heart cannot handle such bullshit.
LOL There's several ways around it, at least to lessen it. Back-dashes and moderation help. And you have no business being up close to 'Gief in the first place. You know he wants to be up close so play his advancement. These aren't perfect strat since I'm still give and take with Khuntri, myself, but I found you issue parallels my first session with him.
Now I know how Kalyx feels when he plays me in SC4
Making shit up now? I'm not so far removed from the SC4 that I won't get back in and terrorize your ass for sport. :mad:
RoXer
03-01-2009, 01:28 PM
Yes I know there are ways around it Thank You Kalyx Triad.
Also my buddy broke SC4 and replaced it with L4D.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-01-2009, 01:30 PM
Akuma players I keep playing online don't teleport. It's like his greatest weapon!
Khuntry
03-01-2009, 01:32 PM
I miss SC4
RoXer
03-01-2009, 01:33 PM
Hasney, what is your gamertag?
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 01:41 PM
Yes I know there are ways around it Thank You Kalyx Triad.
Also my buddy broke SC4 and replaced it with L4D.
No wonder your tongue was so loose. Be gone!
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 01:43 PM
Akuma players I keep playing online don't teleport. It's like his greatest weapon!
That would be his air-fireball.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-01-2009, 02:00 PM
Hasney, what is your gamertag?
Hasney
Oh, and don't get me wrong, air fireballs are the shit, but in Akuma v Akuma matches, I've been teleporting through them to greet them with a roundhouse as they land.
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 02:31 PM
Cammy's Cannon Drill is also a great way to undermine the move, but's still deadly used right.
But 90% of shoto fanboys have little idea how to use them. They'll play Ryu/Ken/Akuma pretty much the same. No use of command attacks or exclusive priorities, it gets annoying.
Fignuts
03-01-2009, 02:34 PM
I love it when someone trys to fireball spam with ken.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-01-2009, 02:34 PM
62 fights 24 wins in ranked mode. Not good, not bad.
And you're right about the shoto people. If I have to school one more jump kick sweep shoto Ill scream
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 02:42 PM
And the people you anti-air four times in a row. What's their master plan after seeing this approach fail consistently? JUMP A FIFTH TIME.
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 02:44 PM
62 fights 24 wins in ranked mode. Not good, not bad.
And you're right about the shoto people. If I have to school one more jump kick sweep shoto Ill scream
I honestly get caught by that a lot. I really don't know why I even crouch-block when someone's jumping anyway. Gotta write that out of my system.
Fignuts
03-01-2009, 02:45 PM
I have hit about 65432345677654345 shoryukens/cannon spikes/sumo butt smashs/vertical rolls etc.. at the very start of the match, because they all jump right in as soon as "FIGHT!" dissapears. Often in subsequent rounds as well, which is proof of stupidity.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-01-2009, 02:46 PM
Yeah, the vegas i've played just use his jump specials which are a joke against so many anti air moves
Fignuts
03-01-2009, 02:49 PM
I use vega's wall jump specials as a fake out more than anything. You can control how much distance vega covers after the jump, so I usually immediately pull back, and they end up striking air, an leaving themselves open.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-01-2009, 02:50 PM
I honestly get caught by that a lot. I really don't know why I even crouch-block when someone's jumping anyway. Gotta write that out of my system.
I have this habit from completing arcade mode so much of trying to hit a hurricane kick on someone just getting up. Threw my pad last time I did it because I can't stop myself!
Fignuts
03-01-2009, 02:54 PM
Better off throwing a Hadukn against human players.
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 02:59 PM
And doing a Shoryuken just because somebody is really close. A scrubby reaction that I still catch my self doing for no reason at all.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-01-2009, 03:05 PM
Fucking hate it when a good cammy player corners you. Can't even teleport in time.
Still finding a good second fighter for ranked mode. Akumas lethal, but his life amount is a joke.
Fignuts
03-01-2009, 03:11 PM
That's the trade off with akuma. Deadly force, and the durability of a little girl. He'd be mad unbalanced otherwise, tho.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-01-2009, 03:18 PM
True, just mad annoying when you've got half your life and they only have a slither left, and manage to pull out their ultra for the win.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-01-2009, 04:55 PM
just destroyed a guy with the highest BP I've seen.. He used blanka and all he did was jump the entire match.
Funky Fly
03-01-2009, 05:05 PM
lol like the computer in SF2. Did nothing but jump around all match and then fly at you randomly.
Fignuts
03-01-2009, 05:43 PM
Street Fighter 4 Costume Packs, DLC Detailed
by Maarten Goldstein Feb 05, 2009 12:22pm CST tags: Street Fighter 4, DLC, Xbox Live Marketplace, PlayStation Store
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+ Library | + Wanted ListCapcom today unveiled its plans for post-release Street Fighter 4 content, as the company will offer a steady stream of costume packs as well as a Championship Mode Expansion Pack.
The Championship Mode expansion will be a free download, but no release date was mentioned. When it arrives, the downloadable content will bring with it:
Replay Mode - Record, upload, and download top matches to share with the Street Fighter IV community. Players can analyze top tiered fighters matches, leave voter feedback for others, and share their own triumphant victories.
New Points System - Two new points systems to measure your skill (Championship and Tournament Points)
Enhanced Tournament Matching System - Skill level matching system offers improved tournament match making for beginners and mid-level players. Competitors earn Grade Points (GP) to earn entry into more advanced tournaments.
Meanwhile, five costume packs containing alternative outfits for five characters will release weekly for 320 MS points on the Xbox Live Marketplace and $3.99 in the PlayStation store. The release schedule follows
2/17 - Brawler Pack DLC Pack will include alternate costumes for: Zangeif, E.Honda, Rufus, El Furete, and Abel.
2/24 - Femme Fatale Pack will include alternate costumes for: Chun-Li, Cammy, Sakura, Rose, and C.Viper.
3/3 - Shoruken Pack will include alternate costumes for: Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Gouken, and Dan.
3/10 - Shadowloo Pack will include alternate costumes for: Seth, M.Bison, Sagat, Balrog, and Vega.
3/17 - Classic Pack will include alternate costumes for: Guile, Dhalsim, Fei-Long, Blanka, and Gen.
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http://content.mahalo.com/images/c/cf/SF4dhalsim_NT_020609.jpg
http://content.mahalo.com/images/9/95/SF4gen_NT_020609.jpg
http://content.mahalo.com/images/e/ee/SF4gouken_NT_020609.jpg
http://content.mahalo.com/images/d/d9/SF4ken_NT_020609.jpg
http://content.mahalo.com/images/8/87/SF4mbison_NT_020609.jpg
http://content.mahalo.com/images/d/df/SF4ryu_NT_020609.jpg
http://content.mahalo.com/images/3/38/SF4seth_NT_020609.jpg
http://content.mahalo.com/images/1/1e/SF4vega_NT_020609.jpg
http://content.mahalo.com/images/7/79/SF4akuma_NT_020609.jpg
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Fignuts
03-01-2009, 05:44 PM
I want to play as Balrog now.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-01-2009, 05:54 PM
LOL, Blanka and Gen.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-01-2009, 05:56 PM
Just noticed, it doesn't mention a better lobby system...
HeartBreakMan2k
03-01-2009, 06:01 PM
I want to see the new Sagat outfit :mad:
Blitz
03-01-2009, 06:52 PM
Just a nice session with Fignuts. Few pretty even matches but he got the best of me overall.
I really need to practice up.
Fignuts
03-01-2009, 08:26 PM
Just a nice session with Fignuts. Few pretty even matches but he got the best of me overall.
I really need to practice up.
Wasn't even playing very well, tbh. But fyi blitz, that jump spamming stuff will get you OWNED against good players. In fact, even I should have been able to counter it better, but I just couldn't put it together today, for some reason.
Fignuts
03-01-2009, 08:28 PM
I want to see the new Sagat outfit :mad:
Didn't bother posting it, as it's only an above the waist shot. And the only thing that's different is there is a headband over his eye instead of an eyepatch.
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 08:29 PM
Replays will be nice, but I'm also peeved at no news for improving the lobby.
Fignuts
03-01-2009, 08:32 PM
I though I read somewhere that Sagat was going to be very slighty nerfed too, as even Capcom has admitted he's too powerful.
Definitely think there should be more of a delay to the tiger shot.
Fignuts
03-01-2009, 08:41 PM
Random thoughts.
Shouln't sakura look a little older given the timeframe?
Also, fuck deejay and T. Hawk. I want Third strike characters, and more alpha characters.
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 08:41 PM
His Tiger Shot seems no worse than it was in HD Remix, which was also a bit obnoxious. Atleast he doesn't juggle off Tiger Knee (good job Sirlin you dick).
Funky Fly
03-01-2009, 08:42 PM
HD Remix style?
Speaking of nerfings Smash Bros Melee > Brawl. Just an aside.
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 08:46 PM
Random thoughts.
Shouln't sakura look a little older given the timeframe?
Also, fuck deejay and T. Hawk. I want Third strike characters, and more alpha characters.
This was also my biggest issue with Sakura's inclusion. On one hand this the definitive version of Sakura. Her animations and mannerisms seem to jump right off her various promo art. I think she's how Capcom always wanted her to be like. In this regard I can see how Capcom may want to keep her in the classic look.
On the other hand, she should be years older - at least older than Cammy, with whom she looks younger. Her alternate attire at least makes her seem 'weathered', that should of been her default.
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 08:49 PM
HD Remix style?
Speaking of nerfings Smash Bros Melee > Brawl. Just an aside.
In HD Remix his Tiger Shot has similar hasty recovery.
Brawl's a fun game, and certainly deep(er than DOA4), but I'm not a high leveled enough competitor to pass judgment on the various changes on gameplay made since the last game.
I hear the Smashboards are pretty rabid about it. I also hear they're pretty whiny.
Blitz
03-01-2009, 09:12 PM
Wasn't even playing very well, tbh. But fyi blitz, that jump spamming stuff will get you OWNED against good players. In fact, even I should have been able to counter it better, but I just couldn't put it together today, for some reason.
I know. It's always been a habit of mine in fighting games that I need to break.
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 09:14 PM
I know. It's always been a habit of mine in fighting games that I need to break.
Play me. I'll show you the error of your ways.
Fignuts
03-01-2009, 09:25 PM
He kind of already admitted the error of his ways.
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 09:31 PM
Are you threatening me?
Blitz
03-01-2009, 09:52 PM
lol first match I had online, I was Fei Long vs. a Ken player. He took the first round, I took the second, and he disconnected before the third could go down. What is with people?
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 10:05 PM
Probably a legit disconnect. It's been happening to me as well. I hate getting disconnected after someone beats me. It looks really bad from his POV, I'm sure.
Random Thought:
So Vega can throw you from his charge-command leap, on the ground or in the air, yet he has no air-throw. Also, the command to throw the mentioned cases are archaic Street Fighter, why not make it a two-button command for consistency?
Funky Fly
03-01-2009, 11:08 PM
In HD Remix his Tiger Shot has similar hasty recovery.
Brawl's a fun game, and certainly deep(er than DOA4), but I'm not a high leveled enough competitor to pass judgment on the various changes on gameplay made since the last game.
I hear the Smashboards are pretty rabid about it. I also hear they're pretty whiny.
I've got HD Remix, I know all about it. It was more like a "WAHT?!? :eek:" sort ot response.
And yeah, For Brawl, all the top tier melee characters were nerfed to shit. For example, Captain Falcon's balance was that yeah, he's retardedly fast (movement-wise) and powerful, but most of his best attacks are pretty slow. Now he's got slightly better than average speed and strength, his range was shortened and his attacks are still slow.
It's like rather than balance everyone properly, they just crapped on the good characters and Sakurai's original characters get way better treatment. Plus tripping every 4 seconds is like punishment for being good at the game. Tourney fags are just that (fags), but they have a point. It's like Nintendo did everything it could to kill competition in the game.
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 11:19 PM
I guess it wasn't their intention to appeal to the core fighting gamer base. I do remember Smash being surprisingly competitive, rather than expected to be taken that way.
Funky Fly
03-01-2009, 11:39 PM
Yeah, Melee was a huge leap forward from the original, but Brawl is like a couple of steps back. It's the little things that once the initial "OMG NEW SMASH BROS" feeling wears off, you notice a whole bunch of minor problems along with all the new improvements. And they still have clone characters, even after promising they wouldn't. :nono:
Anyway, this shit is about Street Fighter.
Kalyx triaD
03-01-2009, 11:45 PM
Street Fighter rules.
Fignuts
03-02-2009, 12:03 AM
I personally don't think Nintendo ever intended smash bros. to be taken as seriously as some people do.
Funky Fly
03-02-2009, 12:15 AM
They shouldn't have made it so good then. Fuck.
Also, anyone ever play the original Street Fighter and get all the way to Sagat? What is with his fucked up knees? They are like almost at his ankles in that game.
The Mask
03-02-2009, 12:25 AM
god i really want to play this. of course i'd have to buy an xbox 360 and an awesome tv but still.
Fignuts
03-02-2009, 12:31 AM
They shouldn't have made it so good then. Fuck.
Also, anyone ever play the original Street Fighter and get all the way to Sagat? What is with his fucked up knees? They are like almost at his ankles in that game.
I fucking hate that game. Capcom are such ubborn fucking retards when it comes to that game, too.
Ok trhere is a ninja in street fighter, with a three pronged claw. And there is a ninja in street fighter II with a three pronged claw. But they are differnt characters.
There is a tall black boxer in street fighter named Mike. There is tall black boxer in street fighter II whose FUCKING NAME IS M. BISON BUT THEY AE DIFFERENT CHARACTERS
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE
Fignuts
03-02-2009, 12:33 AM
god i really want to play this. of course i'd have to buy an xbox 360 and an awesome tv but still.
You can always just beat the shit out of people in real life instead.
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 12:34 AM
I personally don't think Nintendo ever intended smash bros. to be taken as seriously as some people do.
That's almost certain, given their philosophy.
Fignuts
03-02-2009, 12:36 AM
They need to make that ninja outfit an alternate for Vega, somewhere down the line.
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 12:39 AM
They need to make that ninja outfit an alternate for Vega, somewhere down the line.
That would be cool. I firmly believe Mike to be Balrog. Lee is Yun and Yang's uncle and Gen's buddy. Fans want to believe the Ninja is Ibuki's father (which isn't so crazy a though), and perhaps Vega learned some ninja skills from his clan?
Seriously, the characters in Street Fighter probably weren't made with any future plots in mind.
The Mask
03-02-2009, 12:39 AM
You can always just beat the shit out of people in real life instead.
i would have to do it in the uk. at least they can't deport me from there.
Fignuts
03-02-2009, 12:43 AM
That would be cool. I firmly believe Mike to be Balrog. Lee is Yun and Yang's uncle and Gen's buddy. Fans want to believe the Ninja is Ibuki's father (which isn't so crazy a though), and perhaps Vega learned some ninja skills from his clan?
Seriously, the characters in Street Fighter probably weren't made with any future plots in mind.
That's fine, but the fact that they made ridiculously similar characters afterwards, and said "nah, they're different" seems incredibly stupid and lazy. It's like they said "hmmmmm should we make this ninja trhe same one as in street fighter II? Nah then we'd have to say where he's been and why he's back. Let's just say that he's spanish, and it's someone else. Alright, high five!"
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 01:32 AM
A similar creation process went down between Soul Edge and Soul Calibur, although originals came back anyway.
Khuntry
03-02-2009, 02:25 AM
I've got HD Remix, I know all about it. It was more like a "WAHT?!? :eek:" sort ot response.
And yeah, For Brawl, all the top tier melee characters were nerfed to shit. For example, Captain Falcon's balance was that yeah, he's retardedly fast (movement-wise) and powerful, but most of his best attacks are pretty slow. Now he's got slightly better than average speed and strength, his range was shortened and his attacks are still slow.
It's like rather than balance everyone properly, they just crapped on the good characters and Sakurai's original characters get way better treatment. Plus tripping every 4 seconds is like punishment for being good at the game. Tourney fags are just that (fags), but they have a point. It's like Nintendo did everything it could to kill competition in the game.
No wavedashes in Brawl makes me sad:'(
Funky Fly
03-02-2009, 02:29 AM
I never got into wave dashing.
Blitz
03-02-2009, 02:41 AM
good fucking God El Fuerte sucks.
Fignuts
03-02-2009, 02:55 AM
Seriously the most useless sack of shit ever.
Khuntry
03-02-2009, 02:59 AM
No matter how much they try to dumb down Smash Bros. Its STILL immensely deep and competitive. You still gotta remember that in Melee the Wave dash was a mere glitch that in some ways (in my opinion) broke the game. However it only favored a handful of characters Greatly boosting their specific attributes (Fox, Marth, Falco etc.) while the rest of the other characters simply couldn't compare. This turned the game upside down. You would only see people use Fox, Falco, Marth, C.Falcon in tourneys or high level play which led to boring match ups (everyone using the same characters against each other. You Wouldn't dare pick Bowser or anyone else who didn't benefit from this accidental feature because you will not win no matter how skilled you are. It fuckin pisses me how people complain that everything got nerfed in Brawl. Brawl is way more balanced than Melee and every character stands a fighting chance now. That is all
Funky Fly
03-02-2009, 03:09 AM
That's the thing tho. I am not a tourney fag. I basically only play against my brothers and a few friends. And none of us wave dash. Of course we all know about the tiers of characters, and we all have our favourites (some high tier, some not), but we don't make use of glitches. We play on pure skill.
I take issue with Brawl because of stupid shit like tripping all the time and the forced smash ball. I have had matches (most of my matches are triple threats with my brothers) where literally I trip 3 consective times in 5 seconds. Move, trip, get up, move, trip, get up, move trip yet again. How the fuck is that supposed to be fun? All it means s that you can be a button mashing tard and still win because the skilled guy trips at crappy times. It'd be nice if they'd patched in the option to turn off the smash ball and tripping.
Funky Fly
03-02-2009, 03:15 AM
Also, what they did to characters like Bowser was good. Can totally play and win with him now. He was fun before, but now he's good too. What they did to guys like Marth was good too. Changed up a couple of moves to increase his effectiveness while toning down his power. Balanced.
What they did to Falcon was bullshit. He was balanced, albeit in a very fucked up way, but he had weaknesses to go with the retarded power and speed (slow attack speed and crappy low attack, as his downward smash is a sideways attack). The only improvements he got were not Raptor Boosting off cliffs and the turning ability added to the Falcon Punch.
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 03:19 AM
I actually find the tripping mechanic hilarious. Particularly if someone is playing Sonic. I can't hate on it, though - that's like hating on Mario Kart for having obstacles on the track. We've had races where - no bullshit - somebody would go from 1st to 10th place in the blink of an eye (mostly me).
Given the option to eliminate all the wacky stuff and make Mario Kart a 'legit racing game', I wouldn't. I have a lot of other racing game options for that sort of thing. Perhaps the grand mistake was crafting Smash into something it wasn't. Don't get me wrong, no items on Final Destination is still a good workout for me, but we should embrace some wacky stuff every now and then. Smash is still the best brawl game out there, unless Capcom steps up with Power Stone 3.
Fignuts
03-02-2009, 03:20 AM
What is tripping?
Fignuts
03-02-2009, 03:21 AM
Why did I ask that? I don't have a wii anymore.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-02-2009, 03:23 AM
How can you complain about that type of balancing from another game in a street fighter thread? That's all they seem to to in SF now (not a comlaint, I don't mind it)
Khuntry
03-02-2009, 03:23 AM
Funky Fly: The tripping issues can annoying but there are ways around it, such as short hopping and special moves that propel your character forward. You CAN turn off the Smash Ball just go to the item switch menu and switch it off, its that simple.
Funky Fly
03-02-2009, 03:27 AM
I actually find the tripping mechanic hilarious. Particularly if someone is playing Sonic. I can't hate on it, though - that's like hating on Mario Kart for having obstacles on the track. We've had races where - no bullshit - somebody would go from 1st to 10th place in the blink of an eye (mostly me).
Given the option to eliminate all the wacky stuff and make Mario Kart a 'legit racing game', I wouldn't. I have a lot of other racing game options for that sort of thing. Perhaps the grand mistake was crafting Smash into something it wasn't. Don't get me wrong, no items on Final Destination is still a good workout for me, but we should embrace some wacky stuff every now and then. Smash is still the best brawl game out there, unless Capcom steps up with Power Stone 3.
Fair enough. Just give me the option to turn it off. Like items. They're not forced on you, so why this?
What is tripping?
Literally, when you move your guy will trip and fall on his ass at random. Can completely fuck you over too. "Oh hey my guy feel down go boom! OH HAI THERE MR FLASHING BOBOMB, FANCY SEEING U HERE ^ . ^*!!!!!!!!"
Khuntry
03-02-2009, 03:29 AM
Fuck all these Kens online
#BROKEN Hasney
03-02-2009, 03:31 AM
The thing is though, name a Nintendo made game that actually is competitive. Melée was an accident.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-02-2009, 03:34 AM
Fuck all these Kens online
Meh, they break up the good players nicely.
For a laugh, Capcom should give him a stupidly long recovery time from his jump kick and sweep and watch all their stratagies go to shit
Khuntry
03-02-2009, 03:35 AM
The thing is though, name a Nintendo made game that actually is competitive. Melée was an accident.
Pokemon ??
Funky Fly
03-02-2009, 03:45 AM
The thing is though, name a Nintendo made game that actually is competitive. Melée was an accident.
The first one was fairly competitive too.
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 03:47 AM
Fuck all these Kens online
Yep.
Meh, they break up the good players nicely.
For a laugh, Capcom should give him a stupidly long recovery time from his jump kick and sweep and watch all their stratagies go to shit
That Fierce Kick - Sweep isn't a Ken thing, that's for almost everybody. The most annoying thing from Ken users is the all consuming Fierce Shoryuken, but you can see it coming most of the time. I like to think my Ken breaks the trend.
Pokemon ??
Which is funny, because it's so hardcore when two people know what they're doing. It's non-Nintendo.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-02-2009, 06:31 AM
You guys are right, RoXers good.
Dan V Dan fights are immense, however.
Fignuts
03-02-2009, 09:57 AM
I only do player matches, and almost always encounter people who play everyone. Sagat, Ryu, Ken , and Akuma are top tier, so naturallyyou are going to face a lot of them in ranked, from people who don't want to lose their spot at 3562 on the leaderboards.
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 11:34 AM
Tier lists. Bah. I remember Taki being called low tier in SC4.
Your comment about tourny guys being fags is accurate, because tier lists almost always point out characters that have the most exploitable mechanics - and they love that for some 'playing to win' bullshit philosophy. Me and my guys have a closer 'honor play' style of sessions, and we don't care for tiers.
There's people who don't even main a character unless they're known to be top-tier beforehand. I have automatic no-respect for players like that (>>> SRK community).
Khuntry
03-02-2009, 11:42 AM
SRK= Fail. They have threads on how to get through trial mode with certain characters, which is very stupid.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-02-2009, 02:05 PM
I only do player matches, and almost always encounter people who play everyone. Sagat, Ryu, Ken , and Akuma are top tier, so naturallyyou are going to face a lot of them in ranked, from people who don't want to lose their spot at 3562 on the leaderboards.
I think the balance on a lot of people in SF4 is actually right. Take Sagat out of the equation (if they're not going to properly fix him, they need to at least give him an Akuma like power bar.) then I would say Cammy, Balrog, Guile and Gouken could easily compete with any of them.
I need the video function now. I want to up a video of mine and RoXers Dan pose-down. Even wasted a super bar on his super taunt :(
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 02:36 PM
SRK= Fail. They have threads on how to get through trial mode with certain characters, which is very stupid.
Most of those guys are lame sauce. I still catch myself touring the forums looking for a good topic. Even if I find something worth discussing, it won't go a single page before some ignorant elitist jackass comes in talking about stupid shit like tiers and single frame link combos. I'm not saying deep mechanics are off limits, but these things make or break the game for them - and I know it can't be that serious for them in play.
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 02:51 PM
OMFG
I made some guy disconnect for the first time in this game. I had Ken and he had Honda and he bailed at the end of the second round. It was a Player Match for God's sake! He could have learned a thing or two. lol Lame.
Funky Fly
03-02-2009, 03:22 PM
What the shit is SRK?
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 03:37 PM
Shoryuken forums.
Funky Fly
03-02-2009, 03:38 PM
I see.
Fignuts
03-02-2009, 04:52 PM
I think the balance on a lot of people in SF4 is actually right. Take Sagat out of the equation (if they're not going to properly fix him, they need to at least give him an Akuma like power bar.) then I would say Cammy, Balrog, Guile and Gouken could easily compete with any of them.
I need the video function now. I want to up a video of mine and RoXers Dan pose-down. Even wasted a super bar on his super taunt :(
The balance is great. You see, tier lists are based on how the best players in the world playwith each character. Retards online see tier lists and pick the top guys, not realizing that for someone who isn't one of the best players in the world, tier lists are useless.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-02-2009, 05:04 PM
Ah right. In interviews with the guy who balanced SSF2HD, he was talking about toning down top tier players like Dhalsim, so I assumed it was a literal balance thing.
Boomer
03-02-2009, 05:07 PM
I really do think Sagat needs to be tweaked, but that's about the only one I've noticed. Maybe if I played against more of the other characters, I would notice more flaws.
Funky Fly
03-02-2009, 05:23 PM
I heard the balance was hella solid. Also, the dude who did HD Remix basically shit on SF 4 for being too complex to grab casual fighter fans.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-02-2009, 05:26 PM
Nah, he shit on reviews for saying it was accesible to casual fans. He thought it wasn't, but doesn't need to be.
Funky Fly
03-02-2009, 05:30 PM
No doubt.
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 05:42 PM
I heard the balance was hella solid. Also, the dude who did HD Remix basically shit on SF 4 for being too complex to grab casual fighter fans.
Sirlin. He's a brilliant guy, but a pompous ass at times.
Funky Fly
03-02-2009, 05:48 PM
yup
Blitz
03-02-2009, 05:51 PM
Kalyx's fighting spirit is strong. But I feel like he took it easy on me.
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 05:57 PM
Don't beat yourself up. Your Cammy is strong as well.
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 05:57 PM
Your wins in the middle of the session were legit.
Blitz
03-02-2009, 05:59 PM
I think I might try and main her. I wanted Fei, but I dunno, he's just not working for me as much as Cammy.
Also for some reason, I'm much more consistent with Cammy's Hooligan Combo than Fei's forward flip kick, even though they have the same motion. Weird.
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 06:05 PM
You use that one more than I do. The Hooligan slide links to her super on hit.
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 06:10 PM
I don't like what Ranked is turning me into. :(
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 06:19 PM
I love winning with As and Bs in Offense and Tech, but losing to fools who get bad grades.
Boomer
03-02-2009, 08:56 PM
Somebody challenge me when I'm on or something. I've got like maybe two of you on my friends list. My self esteem needs to come down from all this winning against bad shoto players.
XBL:Jtboomer2
Funky Fly
03-02-2009, 09:05 PM
For those who don't have me on Live yet, me = Busted Funk.
Don't expect to see me on yet, as my 360 is in the shop. Still.
RoXer
03-02-2009, 11:28 PM
I love winning with As and Bs in Offense and Tech, but losing to fools who get bad grades.
It doesn't show your opponets grades, those are your own.
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 11:34 PM
It doesn't show your opponets grades, those are your own.
OSDFGJOSDANFS;KJAK;LNFSKJ;DKNVLKM
:eek::eek::(:(:'(:'(:wavesad:
RoXer
03-02-2009, 11:39 PM
Why would you have an A or B grade in offense or denfense if you lost? Think about it.
Funky Fly
03-02-2009, 11:41 PM
http://kotaku.com/5163207/the-king-of-fighters-xii-hits-playstation-3s-this-summer
I think I just came a little.
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 11:42 PM
This is a revelation for me.
Still, I broke the 1000s in BP. My weakness against obvious scrubs continues anyway (recently lost to a piss poor Ken player).
Kalyx triaD
03-02-2009, 11:43 PM
http://kotaku.com/5163207/the-king-of-fighters-xii-hits-playstation-3s-this-summer
I think I just came a little.
Yeah, that looks good.
Boomer
03-03-2009, 12:05 AM
This is a revelation for me.
Still, I broke the 1000s in BP. My weakness against obvious scrubs continues anyway (recently lost to a piss poor Ken player).
Yeah my weakness is the Constant-Lariat Gief.
Kalyx triaD
03-03-2009, 12:32 AM
Gief is a grief.
Fignuts
03-03-2009, 12:42 AM
That KoF looks hottttttt
Khuntry
03-03-2009, 02:40 AM
thats a very nice :D
Bad Company
03-03-2009, 05:01 AM
UNDERWHELMED
Kalyx triaD
03-03-2009, 11:19 AM
UNDERWHELMED
:nono:
.44 Magdalene
03-04-2009, 05:00 AM
I hit 1430 BP before I wore myself out. It's getting harder and harder to get BP--I'm earning like, 20 to 40 BP a match, versus the 90 or so I would drop if I actually lost. I've discovered that Cammy is a fucking scrub killer. Wait for the Shoryu, then airthrow/diag drill them on the way down. Hadospam? EX Hooligan Throw right over that shit, put your vag in their fucking mouth. Dragon Kicks? Gief lariat grief? Shoot that spinning shit across the floor, and watch them go ahead and try it again like it won't just keep running them the fuck over.
Really, I'm glad that I've gotten most of the stupid ass scrub patterns down. It's a goddamn weight off my fucking shoulders. Now I actually breath a sigh of relief when someone picks Ken--I mean, that saves me the trouble of thinking. Just wait for that dumb shit to start doing something retarded, and then SPIRALARROWSPIRALARROWSPIRALARROWCANNONDRILLSPIRALARROW.
.44 Magdalene
03-04-2009, 05:04 AM
Oh, and has anyone else experienced this phenomenon? I call it One Night with Akuma. They'll set a ranked match to one round, so you don't have time to catch onto their stupid ass patterns as they needlessly spam gay shit. It used to always be Akuma--the player would know Akuma's ultra to perfection. Just throw Hados until the time is right, then BAM--toss that shit out there as soon as you can, possibly twice in the same fight if it misses the first time, and then capitalize on your opponent not getting a recovery round.
Now that everybody knows how easy Akuma's ultra is to dodge, though, I keep seeing one round Blanka, Abel, and E. Honda fights. The Blanka fights are the best because these fuckers don't realize I can just low kick them out of the electricity. They'll just go right back to mashing down on the shock button like it was a fluke or something.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-04-2009, 06:48 AM
Akumas Ultra (and super) are perfectly balanced because with the right timing, you can still hit anyone with it. If a flying hard kick comes your way, Akumas weak punch counters it anyways. Hit the rest of the buttons after it and you'll grab them before they land.
Got accused of cheating last night. They thought his teleport was me repeatedly doing his super....
Boomer
03-04-2009, 10:20 AM
My roommate played my account yesterday and knocked me all the way down to 250 BP or so. Oh well.
Drakul
03-04-2009, 10:54 AM
I've unlocked everyone and finished arcade with each of them. Now I'm focusing on the Legendery Champion achievment. I have to finish arcade on hardest (again) and beat Gouken. I did arcade on hardest and never got to face Gouken. I only used one continue (damn El Fuerte!). Do I have to do it without continues?
Seth isn't as bad as everyone seems to make him out to be.
On a Street Fighter related not, I'm heading to a costume party Friday the 13th for a friends birthday. I'm going to be going as Dan Hibiki based on his ingame SF IV look:cool:
My only problem is, I can't turn up bare foot to the pub/club/venue it's being held at so I need footwear that fit's the costume. I'm guessing sandels would work, right?
80-ish people expected to turn up and I bet a bunch will be The Joker. I'm wondering how many times I'll hear "Who are you supposed to be?" in one night. Would answering that question with an autographed picture of Dan be too much? :shifty:
Drakul
03-04-2009, 10:55 AM
My roommate played my account yesterday and knocked me all the way down to 250 BP or so. Oh well.
That's why I gave my Xbox account a passcode. I knew someone would mess about on my account. I remember leaving me SNES or Ps2 or whatever console paused for 5 minutes and coming back and seeing someone had taken over and got me a game over.
Boomer
03-04-2009, 11:03 AM
I mean I let him, and he was way better than he was playing. We played for about an hour in versus, and he wanted to play people online, so I let him. He just couldn't handle everyone being really aggressive online...I tend to play pretty conservatively.
Funky Fly
03-04-2009, 01:11 PM
Yeah, if anyone did that to my account I'd deliver a shinryuken in real life. Fire and everything.
Fignuts
03-04-2009, 01:30 PM
Yeah, if anyone did that to my account I'd deliver a shinryuken in real life. Fire and everything.
Yeah, dropping from 4,643 to 4,602 in the rankings must be really gutting.
Funky Fly
03-04-2009, 02:31 PM
I have a ranking of 0 right now because my Xbox is in Mexico or wherever the fuck they fix this shit. :mad:
Kalyx triaD
03-04-2009, 02:54 PM
One time I lost 100bp to a loss. Fucking absurd. The most I ever gained was 70-something, even with 2 As and a B. I set my Custom Match finder to locate players 'better than me' and that's useless because you don't get any more points for beating a 'better' player. It's good to find out what the latest patterns are.
I pretty much pick Cammy for all my Rank battles now. She is perfect.
I've learned to fight without jumping hardly at all. Just watch Guile/Balrog/'anybody' players utterly freeze when they see you barely ever jump at them.
I currently trying to get a Focus Attack in after Guile's first sweep kick so I can absorb the second. I seen the computer do this.
Drakul
03-04-2009, 03:03 PM
I'm terrible for jumping. I toned it down for a while but the last couple of days I've been hopping around the screen like a frog on a sugar rush.
I started jumping all the time in SFII when I was a kid because it seemed like a faster way across the screen. I've never fully broken the habit.
Fignuts
03-04-2009, 04:59 PM
Can someone fucking explain to me how sweepause I'm pressings work and how to block them? Bec down-back and it is still connecting almost every god damn motherfucking time. Do I have to yank on the mother fucking analog stick as hard as I fucking can until it rips out and I throw the useless piece of shit against the wall?
Cause thats what it seems like.
Kalyx triaD
03-04-2009, 05:03 PM
Care to reword that? Are you talking about getting swept in general or what?
Funky Fly
03-04-2009, 05:04 PM
What the shit are you saying?
Kalyx triaD
03-04-2009, 05:04 PM
What the shit are you saying?
Fignuts
03-04-2009, 05:08 PM
Fucking god damn piec of shit cursor on this computer is fucked up. Randomly jumps back 20 spaces or so, and also doesn't register when I type a letter sometimes. No idea how to fix it.
And yes, talking about blocking sweeps in general.
Funky Fly
03-04-2009, 05:09 PM
Was basically saying the same shit you were, but you posted all of 10 seconds sooner.
Kalyx triaD
03-04-2009, 05:11 PM
Probably your stick.
.44 Magdalene
03-04-2009, 05:54 PM
I made it to around 1480 before a couple of gay ass fights. One of them knocked me down 90 fucking points. I'm only getting like, 30 points for every fight. I was fucking furious.
Fignuts
03-04-2009, 06:00 PM
Probably your stick.
Yeah. Dunno. Just gonna be really happy when I get that arcade stick, as I'm much more comfortable with them.
.44 Magdalene
03-04-2009, 06:11 PM
Have I mentioned how much I hate fucking Ultras? They only hit half the time, but that half of the time there's absolutely nothing I can fucking do about it. I'm in the middle of a sweep OHSHITGIANTHADOKEN. I start to grab someone and OHMYGODGYRODRIVESMASHER. I know it's about making the fights more "dramatic" and shit, but it seems retarded to reward someone for getting the shit beat out of them. Three fourths of these pigshit yokels barely know any moves at all, let alone how to actually play, but they'll memorize the fuck out of their Ultra so they can just juke that shit. I've seen guys trying to mash down on their Ultra before they even have Revenge meter to do it with--all they understand is that "This = Win". I'm just lucky enough to get caught trying to actually fight them when their chubby, Cheeto stained fingers finally fumble over some coherant combination of buttons. It reminds me of shit from like, the Budokai games--you know what I mean? "I HIT WITH THIS PUNCH, AND NOW IT'S TIME FOR A MID-FIGHT CUTSCENE! WATCH YOURSELF GET PWNED."
Yeah, I got beat by another Cammy. Three out of five rounds--I won the first two rounds, and the next three rounds had my opponent going crazy for Supers and Ultras. I blocked their entire fucking Ultra, but the chip damage finished me off anyway. In the third round, we both swept at the same time and Double KO'd--but I had more BP than them at the time, so I lost BP and they gained it. FROM A DOUBLE FUCKING KO. A;JDKF;JAJF;A 88 GODDAMN BP.
.44 Magdalene
03-04-2009, 06:13 PM
Also, how the fuck does anyone do Cammy's Ultra anyway? I can't do two quarter circle motions without it doing that tiny Z formation, so my attempt at an Ultra turns into an EX Cannon Drill.
Kalyx triaD
03-04-2009, 06:26 PM
Have I mentioned how much I hate fucking Ultras? They only hit half the time, but that half of the time there's absolutely nothing I can fucking do about it. I'm in the middle of a sweep OHSHITGIANTHADOKEN. I start to grab someone and OHMYGODGYRODRIVESMASHER. I know it's about making the fights more "dramatic" and shit, but it seems retarded to reward someone for getting the shit beat out of them. Three fourths of these pigshit yokels barely know any moves at all, let alone how to actually play, but they'll memorize the fuck out of their Ultra so they can just juke that shit. I've seen guys trying to mash down on their Ultra before they even have Revenge meter to do it with--all they understand is that "This = Win". I'm just lucky enough to get caught trying to actually fight them when their chubby, Cheeto stained fingers finally fumble over some coherant combination of buttons. It reminds me of shit from like, the Budokai games--you know what I mean? "I HIT WITH THIS PUNCH, AND NOW IT'S TIME FOR A MID-FIGHT CUTSCENE! WATCH YOURSELF GET PWNED."
Yeah, I got beat by another Cammy. Three out of five rounds--I won the first two rounds, and the next three rounds had my opponent going crazy for Supers and Ultras. I blocked their entire fucking Ultra, but the chip damage finished me off anyway. In the third round, we both swept at the same time and Double KO'd--but I had more BP than them at the time, so I lost BP and they gained it. FROM A DOUBLE FUCKING KO. A;JDKF;JAJF;A 88 GODDAMN BP.
I treat Ultras like any other special move. Cammy's Ultra essentially starts as a Cannon Drill, so I jump over it. Savvy players set it up a certain way.
Kalyx triaD
03-04-2009, 06:33 PM
What really gets me is how people come out of hit stun to do a move before you recover from JUST HITTING THEM.
Boomer
03-04-2009, 10:30 PM
Is the best way to block a focus attack in the corner after being knocked down just to try and do an armor break move before it finishes?
Kalyx triaD
03-04-2009, 10:33 PM
Two weak hits should do it, nothing fancy is needed. You can also jump the Hell out of there. If your reflexes are acute enough at the time you can throw them before they release the attack as well.
Boomer
03-04-2009, 10:44 PM
I don't much like being in the corner, and sometimes I just feel plain helpless if they time the attack right.
As for throws, I get so mad when I am so so close and the grab doesn't work. And by the time I would have done another dash in to be close enough, I get a big whiff of Ken Shoryuken.
Kalyx triaD
03-04-2009, 11:27 PM
So dash in and block. Bait 'em.
RoXer
03-05-2009, 12:35 AM
Also, how the fuck does anyone do Cammy's Ultra anyway? I can't do two quarter circle motions without it doing that tiny Z formation, so my attempt at an Ultra turns into an EX Cannon Drill.
Whats your gamertag btw??
Khuntry
03-05-2009, 02:02 AM
Is the best way to block a focus attack in the corner after being knocked down just to try and do an armor break move before it finishes?
Throws beat Focus attacks
Boomer
03-05-2009, 05:50 PM
Had to rage-quit just now. At least I didn't see a Ken the entire time I played. People were all beating me legit at least. Once I start getting frustrated, my skill goes to hell.
Capcom details patch fixes for Street Fighter II HD Remix (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/03/05/capcom-details-patch-fixes-for-ssfiithdr/)
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If your street fights have been plagued by nasty bugs and glitches -- even the occasional low blow -- we've got some good news: Capcom is on the case (http://www.capcom-unity.com/jimmyrey/blog/2009/03/05/sfhd_remix_patch_details). It's working on a patch for SSFIITHDR (http://www.joystiq.com/tag/SSFIITHDR) coming "in the next few weeks" that will deal with a variety of issues.
We're glad to report that details regarding what will be patched are available right now. To keep in line with our New Year's resolution, we're going to keep the front page bullet-point-free and ask you click past the break for the details on what the patch will, uh, patch.
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After a number of games, the HUD will be corrupt. Yellow lifebars will freeze, the round counter flags will all be on, and the names will show more than one name. (PS3 and Xbox 360)
Frequent disconnects during VS transition screen. Often caused by selecting START color of character. (PS3 and Xbox 360)
Title crashes if user has a large friends list and tries to access the friends list (PS3)
Rating being set to "0" and from then on, rating remains at "0". Once that patch goes live, we'll reset all leaderboards/scoreboards. (PS3 and Xbox 360)
Vega sometimes causing desyncing, especially when using the fake wall dive. (PS3 and Xbox 360).
Lobby list containing full rooms instead of only rooms that users can enter. (PS3 and Xbox 360).
Zangief Super Motion not working on both sides and in both directions.
During the start of the match, there is slight slowdown. This has been minimized as much as possible. (PS3).
If connecting to a ranked match through the quick match function, it is best out of 3 rather than best out of 5. (PS3 and Xbox 360)
Sending messages via XMB during a game causes a freeze. (PS3)
Players not added to "Players Met" list. (PS3)
Analog and D-pad can accept input at the same time. (PS3 and Xbox 360)
Player stats not reporting correctly.
YAY for #1.
Boomer
03-06-2009, 12:43 AM
Had a chance to play some good matches with Kal. Pretty happy with how I did, even if I did lose most of 'em. I just want to learn how to play some other characters better so I can switch it up in vs.
Fignuts
03-06-2009, 02:12 AM
Good night for me overall. Ended up winning most of my matches. Last series of matches wee against a jump spammer who I destroyed with rose and abel.
redoneja
03-06-2009, 08:26 PM
How is the HD Remix game? Worth a purchase or no?
Kalyx triaD
03-06-2009, 08:58 PM
Depends.
redoneja
03-06-2009, 09:03 PM
On?
I can give you the code that's coming with my Elite.
Kalyx triaD
03-06-2009, 11:12 PM
On?
Your personal preferences. HD Remix is a great game with throwback (and improved) gameplay with some hot looking sprites. The animation is choppy, though, and it will feel like something out of the early 90's.
Fignuts
03-06-2009, 11:15 PM
Yeah, would be much better off with Guilty Gear.
Your personal preferences. HD Remix is a great game with throwback (and improved) gameplay with some hot looking sprites. The animation is choppy, though, and it will feel like something out of the early 90's.
Considering it IS a game from the early 90's...
Kalyx triaD
03-07-2009, 12:02 AM
Considering it IS a game from the early 90's...
Look at you trying to say something about me.
And I jizzed in my pants.
Kalyx triaD
03-07-2009, 12:37 AM
Did you now?
Kalyx triaD
03-07-2009, 12:50 AM
Well okay then.
Fignuts
03-07-2009, 01:16 AM
Going for ryu's ultra and I jizzed in my pants.
RoXer
03-08-2009, 11:01 AM
I was so fuckin worn out yesterday, I swear. My thumbs and hands just wern't fast enough. Went on a 9 game losing streak against kalyx.
Even lost to Fignuts a few times :o
Kalyx triaD
03-08-2009, 03:26 PM
We have our days. My bro was that Guile, though, and he's in the 2000s.
Boomer
03-09-2009, 03:44 PM
You've got a pretty sick Akuma, RoXer. Though I didn't get to match up Bison with him, I'm sure you would have given me trouble then too.
I <u>really</u> need to learn to play someone besides Bison effectively. It takes a lot of the fun out of everything when I'm the one who keeps picking the same guy.
Funky Fly
03-09-2009, 04:04 PM
BlazBlue (spiritual sequel to Guity Gear seres) is officially coming Stateside with both English and Jap voicework on both 360 and PS3. 30 hour story mode. I just JIZZED... IN MY PANTS.
Kalyx triaD
03-09-2009, 08:12 PM
BlazBlue (spiritual sequel to Guity Gear seres) is officially coming Stateside with both English and Jap voicework on both 360 and PS3. 30 hour story mode. I just JIZZED... IN MY PANTS.
30 hours? 30 hours of what? Damn.
The gameplay looks a tad more open ended than GG. I'm no expert, but Khuntry is a whore for the GG series (and a fierce player). He's jizzing pants as well.
So many fighting games, baby.
Funky Fly
03-09-2009, 09:02 PM
2009, year of the fighter. Fuck a zodiac.
Khuntry
03-10-2009, 01:42 AM
I CAN'T FUCKIN CONTAIN MYSELF!!!
#BROKEN Hasney
03-10-2009, 07:28 AM
30 hours? 30 hours of what? Damn.
The gameplay looks a tad more open ended than GG. I'm no expert, but Khuntry is a whore for the GG series (and a fierce player). He's jizzing pants as well.
So many fighting games, baby.
Cutscenes I bet. I thought battle fantasia was the spiritual sequel to GG anyways
Kalyx triaD
03-10-2009, 10:36 AM
Cutscenes I bet. I thought battle fantasia was the spiritual sequel to GG anyways
Oh no no no no no. BF is a prototype of somthing decent down the line, but a spiritual sequel is wasn't. It does share certain elements that are inherent to the developer's games.
RoXer
03-10-2009, 11:16 AM
Hey let's talk about Street Fighter instead.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-10-2009, 11:26 AM
Street fighter blew
I didn't get into it until 2
http://www.sega-16.com/Features/History%20of/Street%20Fighter/StreetFighter1.gif
Funky Fly
03-10-2009, 04:08 PM
Hey let's talk about Street Fighter instead.
You ever play the Guilty Gear games Roxer? It's the Street Fighter games on drugs, man. And it's a very good trip.
BlazBlue is gonna be sweet.
Kalyx triaD
03-10-2009, 07:20 PM
Guilty Gear can only be described as a high resolution hyper kinetic acid trip featuring characters from a teenage psycho's wildest dreams doing battle to a rock concert playing off screen.
RoXer
03-10-2009, 07:23 PM
I bought Guilty Gear x 2 version reload 2 load version x tenth reload 2.
I was not impressed.
Funky Fly
03-10-2009, 07:28 PM
Guilty Gear can only be described as a high resolution hyper kinetic acid trip featuring characters from a teenage psycho's wildest dreams doing battle to a rock concert playing off screen.
Yeah, that's a better portrayal than what I said. Game is bonkers.
Roxer, what is your opinion on the King of Fighters series?
RoXer
03-10-2009, 07:37 PM
Can't say
Kalyx triaD
03-10-2009, 07:43 PM
KoF11 is good fun. It was unfortunate that I got the two year old game a few weeks before SF4.
Funky Fly
03-10-2009, 08:23 PM
Street Fighter has classic characters, but SNK is really much more of a driving force in terms of innovating gameplay mechanics. So many diverse character types.
My advice? Pick up KoF 02/03, KoF 98, KoF 00/01 and KoFX1 for PS2, as they are all pretty cheap and really fucking awesome. Or if you wanna play it on the PC get Neo Rage (http://www.mininova.org/tor/1736219).
Kalyx triaD
03-10-2009, 08:40 PM
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Funky Fly
03-11-2009, 01:13 AM
Remember that time I JIZZED... IN MY PANTS? It happened again.
Fignuts
03-11-2009, 01:24 AM
Hand drawn fighters are so sexy.
Khuntry
03-11-2009, 03:09 AM
I bought Guilty Gear x 2 version reload 2 load version x tenth reload 2.
I was not impressed.
:nono:
Drakul
03-13-2009, 02:02 AM
I've really improved my Zangief. Finally able to pull off all his moves with ease. Back as a kid, I couldn't do anything with him except the spinning clothesline.
I still can't work Rufus or El Fuerte for the life of me. I can pull of moves with them but, in matches, I'm useless with them.
I have a quick favour to ask you guys. Does anyone know where I can find an image of the symbols on Dans back/chest? Not an image of Dan with the symbols. Just the symbols. My costume is done. I have the suit (dyed and altered), the tshirt, the gloves and some sandles because I need footwear. If I can add the symbols as a finishing touch, it would be great. The party is tonight so if anyone can help me out before it's too late, I'd owe you one. Obviously, I've looked and found nothing. I was going to print them onto transfer paper I have lying around and iron it on the suit.
Kalyx triaD
03-13-2009, 02:36 AM
Can't find a clean version.
Drakul
03-13-2009, 02:49 AM
A clean version of the symbols? It's not a big thing. I have a pink suit, a tshirt and everything else. If people know Dan, they just need a guy with a ponytail in a pink karate gi. If someone doesn't know Dan, symbols wont make a difference. It's just a little detail I wanted to finish with.
Thanks for helping out anyway.
If anyone does find them, though, let me know.
Btw, Kalyx, I think we need to face each other again. I reckon I can do a decent match now and not hop all over the place.
Kalyx triaD
03-13-2009, 02:53 AM
I can hop on tonight maybe. I've been off Street Fighter for a few days, getting in some exhibition only today (and being a tad rusty at that). This wouldn't be a problem if not for the fact that I haven't been working out scenarios in my head the entire time I wasn't playing. So a session with you should whip me back into shape.
Drakul
03-13-2009, 03:02 AM
Well, I have that party tonight so I wont be online so you can always work off any rust you have tonight and I can have a match over the weekend.
Kalyx triaD
03-13-2009, 03:12 AM
Having a Terminator SCC marathon right now. Weekend seems likely.
RoXer
03-15-2009, 05:19 PM
k lets play
redoneja
03-15-2009, 05:57 PM
Just picked this up. I am terrible.
redoneja
03-16-2009, 12:33 PM
Update: I am still terrible. I've unlocked all of the characters except Gouken and Seth so far. I haven't much time to play this due to this being my last full-time semester in college so it'll probably take me awhile to pick some of the finer points up.
I've done the best so far with Sagat, but that's really no accomplishment given his obvious strengths. I think I have great potential with Crimson Viper.
However, I'm absolute ass with an character that has mostly charge based special moves. I can get the moves off but it isn't fluid. And I can never land any of the Super/Ultra moves either.
Funky Fly
03-16-2009, 02:52 PM
Charge characters have better normals than everyone else. Put them to good use.
Fignuts
03-16-2009, 10:29 PM
Charge characters have better normals than everyone else. Put them to good use.
Yeah, when I use Honda, Vega, and Blanka, I mostly use special moves as fake outs, and rely mostly on normals. Works pretty good.
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