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Kalyx triaD

02-21-2010, 09:15 AM

I’ve interviewed Mortal Kombat creator Ed Boon a number of times, and one time he mentioned that he’d like to see a Street Fighter vs. Mortal Kombat title. What do you think about some sort of collaboration like that?

Yoshinori Ono: I think Street Fighter is a different type of game than Mortal Kombat. I think Mortal Kombat vs. Capcom could happen, but Mortal Kombat vs. Street Fighter, um. Question mark.

Keep dreaming, Boon. Get your house in order first before you invite guests.

Kalyx triaD

02-23-2010, 12:59 AM

http://www.capcom.co.jp/blog/sf4/img_upload/0223hyojo.jpghttp://www.capcom.co.jp/blog/sf4/img_upload/0223vsviper.jpg

A dev blog described Ibuki as being similar to C.Viper technically speaking. She has a super-jump, also like Viper. They say she has many combo opportunities (they note young people like target combos), and getting her after image effect was a challenge.

Drakul

02-23-2010, 01:44 AM

I'm utterly useless with C. Viper so I'll probably be no good with Ibuki then. I'll still give her a shot.

I was think about characters I would have liked in SSFIV. I can only think of 4. R. Mika, Sodom and Rolento because they where the ones I used a lot when I played SF Alpha 3 and Q because I never played SF3, I don't think and I've seen his ending, listened to his theme and seen that people think he is in the background of Kens stage in SFII.

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters3/q-screenshot.jpg

I think his story and character sounds like it could be interesting to build on. If he's being hunted by the CIA, that gives him a rival in C. Viper.

Kalyx triaD

02-23-2010, 10:50 AM

No Karin is kinda fail but I forgive them.

Kalyx triaD

02-23-2010, 12:50 PM

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np3/game/super4-63.jpg

Bring it, kunoichi bitch.

Drakul

02-23-2010, 11:59 PM

Did you guys know/care that SFIV is coming to the iPhone?

The roster is made up of 8 characters. Ken, Ryu, Guile, Blanka, Chun-Li, Dhalsim, M. Bison and Abel. It's out in March for $10. No idea on UK pricing/dates.
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_sfphone.jpg

Gameplay:
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I don't have an iPhone but I thought I'd pass the news along incase one of you does. The guys fingers take up a lot of the screen. I don't think it's going to work well enough to play for more than one or two fights. Plus I think he was trying to pause the game and it wouldn't register it. Not registering button presses isn't going to work in something like SF.

Kalyx triaD

02-24-2010, 12:06 AM

Meh. Kinda shit that iPhone gets it and not DSi or PSP.

Khuntry

02-24-2010, 01:00 AM

Man FUCK apple..

Emperor Smeat

02-24-2010, 01:05 AM

I'd blame Capcom more for lying since they said the SF IV engine couldn't be modified for a non-HD console/PC system when they were asked why it wasn't on handhelds or Wii/PS2.

Kalyx triaD

02-24-2010, 01:07 AM

Drakul

02-25-2010, 12:26 AM

Does anyone else think it's a bit strange to leave one character unannounced? Each character trailer reveals 3 people so why have Hakan on his own? Do you think, maybe, there is another character or two besides Hakan we don't know about or maybe some other feature or something worth putting into the next trailer with Hakan?

Probably not but it's a weird way of doing it. Putting 3 characters to a trailer and then a character on his own.

Achievements translated from Japanese:
• Get All Achievements

• Get All Character Colors

• Get All Character Taunts

• Get All Titles

• Get All Icons

• Win 100 Rounds by special move

• Win 100 rounds by EX Special Move

• Win 100 Rounds by Super Combo

• Win 100 Rounds by Ultra Combo

• Hit 100 Focus Attacks

• Win 50 Times by Super Combo

• Win 50 Times by Ultra Combo

• Get 365 Flashy Screen Finishes

• 30 Perfects

• Beat Arcade Mode on a Difficulty Higher Than Medium

• Beat Arcade Mode on a Difficulty Higher Than Medium With All Characters

• Beat Arcade Mode on a Difficulty Higher Than Medium Using No Continues

• Beat Gouken in Arcade Mode on Hardest Difficulty

• Beat All Rivals, Higher Than Medium

• Get 10 Clears on Trial Mode

• Beat All Character Trials For One Character

• Clear All Character Trials For All Characters

• Get 80,000 Points or More on the Car Bonus Stage

• Get 110,000 Points or More on the Barrel Bonus Stage

• Set Your Icon and Title and Fight Over Xbox Live

• Win 1 Ranked Match

• Win 3 Consecutive Ranked Matches

• Win 5 Consecutive Ranked Matches

• Win 10 Consecutive Ranked Matches

• Upgrade Your Class By Ranked Match

• Achieve C Class By Ranked Match

• Achieve C Class For All Characters by Ranked Match

• Get 10 Wins Through Xbox Live Matches

• Get 30 Wins Through Xbox Live Matches

• Get 100 Wins Through Xbox Live Matches

• Fight in 50 Xbox Live Matches

• Fight in 100 Xbox Live Matches

• Fight in 300 Xbox Live Matches

• Participate in Team Battle

• You Win, Your Team Wins in Team Battle (You have to win your match, and your team must also win the battle)

• You Win, Your Team Wins in Team Battle x10

• Participate in Endless Battle

• Get 3 Wins In a Row in Endless Battle

• Get 10 Wins In a Row in Endless Battle

• Watch 30 Replays in the Replay Channel

• Create 30 Endless Battle Lobbies

• Create 30 Team Battle Lobbies

• Fight 30 Battles Through Fight Request

Taft

02-25-2010, 04:00 AM

Ew, the iPhone version looks so clunky I want to throw up.

Kalyx triaD

02-25-2010, 02:38 PM

Here comes a new challenger:

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np3/kofxiii.jpg

Oh please don't skimp on the feature set again.

Fignuts

02-25-2010, 02:39 PM

lol already?

12 must have sucked pretty bad.

Kalyx triaD

02-25-2010, 02:44 PM

It had several issues despite a fairly decent fight engine.

Taft

02-25-2010, 02:45 PM

I thought it was sexy, tbh

Kalyx triaD

02-25-2010, 03:18 PM

Not being able to switch characters from pause menu symbolizes the issues of the game.

Kalyx triaD

02-26-2010, 11:42 AM

http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/S/Super%20Street%20Fighter%20IV/Bulk%20Viewer/PS3%20360/2010-02-24/FLN_001--screenshot.jpghttp://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/S/Super%20Street%20Fighter%20IV/Bulk%20Viewer/PS3%20360/2010-02-24/BLK_001--screenshot.jpghttp://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/S/Super%20Street%20Fighter%20IV/Bulk%20Viewer/PS3%20360/2010-02-24/GEN_001--screenshot.jpghttp://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/S/Super%20Street%20Fighter%20IV/Bulk%20Viewer/PS3%20360/2010-02-24/GUL_001--screenshot.jpghttp://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/S/Super%20Street%20Fighter%20IV/Bulk%20Viewer/PS3%20360/2010-02-24/DSM_001--screenshot.jpg

Drakul

02-26-2010, 12:16 PM

Europe is getting the above costumes free with pre ordering the game. There is talk of throwing in an iPhone cover and a choice of one of four SF T-shirts.

Capcom has gone and released images of their European pre-order incentives for Super Street Fighter IV - a five costume pack for some of the game's most popular fighters.

Our personal favourite has to be Fei Long's bonus costume, which is an obvious homage to Bruce Lee's Kato from The Green Hornet TV series he once starred in.

Blanka meanwhile, gets a pink Dan-style karate robe, while Dhalsim gets a sultan makeover and Guile goes all special forces with a heavy flak jacket.

The fifth and final costume takes Gen out of his dignified kung-fu pyjamas and gives him the 'dirty slave' look instead. That's so in right now, darling.

Head over to the screenshot gallery to take a look at all five costumes.

Exclusive stylised iPhone covers and 1 from a choice of 4 T-shirts are also planned for European pre-orders.

Super Street Fighter IV is slated for release on April 27th in North America and April 30th for the UK and Europe.

Source (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-4478-Super-Street-Fighter-IV-Given-Pre-Order-Costume-Pack.html). Fantastic!

Funky Fly

02-27-2010, 07:24 AM

It had several issues despite a fairly decent fight engine.

My personal beef with it:

- Backgrounds were too flashy. Got really irritating

- Far too few characters, considering the previous iterations

- No story at all (why the fuck is Vice alive again?)

- No bosses, nothing

It was like this should have been DLC. It just feels cheap.

Kalyx triaD

02-27-2010, 03:20 PM

Drakul

03-01-2010, 12:59 AM

Leaked (tiny) image of Hakan:
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2056/hakanz.jpg

Capcoms been trying to cover up this leak so it's likely real. We wont know for sure until his announcent, obviously.

Funky Fly

03-01-2010, 04:24 AM

I didn't think the backgrounds got in the way. They spoke a lot about how they wanted to scale back the characters and make it a dream tournament game again. No bosses is surprising given SNK's infamy with crazy bosses.

Yeah, the game was under funded. I expect KoF13 to right more wrongs than introduce new stuff.
I knew that, but it was SNK, so I was expecting them to be able to deliver, nonetheless. Ah well, gonna bargain bin it eventually, since it's got one of the better iterations of Kensou.
Leaked (tiny) image of Hakan:
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2056/hakanz.jpg

Capcoms been trying to cover up this leak so it's likely real. We wont know for sure until his announcent, obviously.
love how it's such a tiny, ridiculous pic. Not that I doubt you, mate, but I gotta wonder if it's truly legit.

Drakul

03-01-2010, 06:07 AM

love how it's such a tiny, ridiculous pic. Not that I doubt you, mate, but I gotta wonder if it's truly legit.

Well eventhubs has it up. No idea how trust worthy they are. It was on the Shoryuken site but it was taken down and the poster was banned, apparantly. Capcoms making a bit too big a fuss for it to be a fake. The faked dudley and earlier faked scans of Hakan were not removed by Capcom but this latest leak is.

Here is a bigger image. Well, the same image but magnified here (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/feb/28/leaked-photo-hakan-super-street-fighter-4/).

Drakul

03-01-2010, 01:34 PM

Someone on eventhubs claiming to be the guy that leaked the Hakan image has started leaking more information about him. I don't totally believe it but, still, it's interesting to read (to me, anyway).

Hakan has 4 special moves:

- 360 P grapple
- 360 or HCB? K - Grapple ala Alex 3s. The jumping one.
- QCF P. Slide like Ibuki. If hit press P for another Hit
- SRK K for Oiling up.

- About SRK the banning is weird. There was no clause in the terms that i could be banned for leaking info. The Ban is permanent so i wont be making a return on SRK.

- Hakan looks awesome. He resembles Hellboy, Darun. Some of you made the link to Wario :) His build resembles Marduk of Tekken 6. He is big, not as tall as gief tho. There is oil dripping and oozing all over his body. Weird and nice effect.

Gameplaywise: I really cant put him somewhere on the charts. My initial impression of a longtime SF player, is that he will be mid-tier.

His slide is a counter against fireballspammers. He'll have a problem with low Tiger Shots. Slide is unsafe if blocked. Great damage on normals. Not combo heavy.

His U2 is probably his best weapon and best Anti-air move in the game. It shuts down any jumping game.

His U2 if connected and has a female opponent it will look like they are doing a Position 69.

It would be cool if he had some kind of over the top style tombstone piledriver. If this is all true, it looks like I'll have another character in my "main" roster. I favour slow and powerful characters.

Like I said, I don't fully believe it because anyone can claim to have info but I kind of want to believe it.

Kalyx triaD

03-01-2010, 03:36 PM

That seems too technical an analysis to be fake, but people do have that sort of time or their hands.

Kalyx triaD

03-02-2010, 05:08 PM

The entire game has been sped up, making battles faster, more tense affairs. Only regular players will spot things like the quicker focus cancelling and tighter juggling, but they're there and make a difference. There are four welcome new stages as well, all rendered in the gorgeous 3D Street Fighter IV style, and in an old school nod, the Car Wrecking/ Barrel smashing games from Street Fighter II return to arcade mode. Better yet, its online modes will have a proper fighting lobby system with up to eight players able to band together and duke it out arcade style.

Kalyx triaD

03-02-2010, 05:09 PM

Kalyx triaD

03-02-2010, 05:17 PM

FoF 2002 Ultimate Battle is coming to XBLA:

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Like 98 UB, the game is rebalanced and 'Live ready. 98 UB was arguably better than SSF2THDR (but nobody plays online ever). Between this and Neo Geo Battle coming out, it's a wonder how KoF12 turned out so unfinished, SNK clearly has another market in mind.

Kalyx triaD

03-02-2010, 05:33 PM

SSF4 is 40$, confirmed. I'd drop it for 50$ (dare I say 60$) with all the shit added, it's a full fledged sequel, but whatever. If only Capcom had EA's mentality on the matter.

http://www.famitsu.com/image/6898/INZopUu4yio4Nuw5316u5v77W4iHH42H.jpg

Funky Fly

03-02-2010, 08:17 PM

Funky Fly

03-02-2010, 08:20 PM

Oh, and the Akuma one is fucked, but if you click the question mark, it shows all new ultras with his being the 3rd one in. Akuma's is some weaksauce though. Why not use that crazy ass move from SF3?

Kalyx triaD

03-02-2010, 08:42 PM

MOUNTAIN BREAKER

Funky Fly

03-02-2010, 08:43 PM

YES

Funky Fly

03-02-2010, 08:43 PM

WHY ARE WE SHOUTING?

Funky Fly

03-02-2010, 08:45 PM

Yo, I was playing some SF4 yesterday, and I just "clicked" with El Fuerte. Like, I've never been good at all with him, but yesterday I was shutting shit down with him. Might end up adding him to my roster.

Kalyx triaD

03-02-2010, 10:29 PM

Annoying little fence jumper. Fuck fake-ass Rey Mysterio. Fucking loop, man.

Funky Fly

03-04-2010, 07:05 AM

I take it you've been seeing a few of those fucks online too, then. Soooooo annoying how they can spam that up for the entire round.

Kalyx triaD

03-04-2010, 03:35 PM

Yeah, I played those fuckers. They're not especially dominating and you can break the loop (provided you're not raging mad at that point), but it's crazy annoying.

I played my first online opponents in KoF 98 'Live. One guy quit for no reason at all, he just left. And when I tried to rejoin his room he left. Another guy used a God-tier character on his team. I beat his ass with Blue Mary all the way up until I faced his Omega Rugal. He raped my team. Very gay he'd use a special character.

And then the pool cleared up again. I hope more people hop on 2002.

Drakul

03-05-2010, 01:04 AM

I saw this video of Akuma and Goukens Ultras. They've added the sound of children laughing to Akumas Ultras when he gets the KO. Unless someone just added it themeselves, which would be pointless because it's not even a comical laugh. It's easier to hear in the new Ultra.

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Someone said the latest blog hints at Hakan being revealed on the 11th of this month.

Funky Fly

03-05-2010, 08:35 AM

Probably the stage under the highway, because kids play and laugh there.

Drakul

03-05-2010, 10:22 AM

That can't be it because both his Ultras in the video are done on the Training Stage.

Khuntry

03-07-2010, 11:16 AM

Khuntry

03-07-2010, 11:17 AM

Khuntry

03-07-2010, 11:18 AM

Kalyx triaD

03-07-2010, 04:24 PM

Interesting how they kept them as '3rd Strike accurate' as possible, with their old target combos added with the SF4 style combos. Ibuki looks like a character I can add to my stable, but I tend to stray from execution heavy characters. Playing KoF 98 UM got me doing rush downs more often though...

Kalyx triaD

03-07-2010, 05:49 PM

Khuntry

03-07-2010, 11:57 PM

YES!

Drakul

03-09-2010, 10:03 PM

Hakan officially revealed:

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He seems slightly comical but he does look interesting. I'll give him a spin, no doubt. Is it just me or does the singing sound like it's being sung by Yakko from the Animaniacs?

Fignuts

03-09-2010, 10:17 PM

So his fighting style is...being really oily?

Drakul

03-09-2010, 10:25 PM

Yes, aka Turkish Wrestling. I wonder if Yoga Flame will light him up like a Christmas tree, what with the oil and all.

Hakan vs Juri
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Kalyx triaD

03-09-2010, 10:28 PM

Wow.

Blitz

03-09-2010, 10:30 PM

Hakan looks....truly bizarre.

Nice to know someone at Capcom is a big Michael Nakazawa fan though.

Drakul

03-09-2010, 10:52 PM

Hakan seems like Zangief will have a tough time with him. I've read he can't be grabbed when he's slippery and, if you watch the Vs Juri video, his second Ultra is an Anti-Air so, if someone tries to do one of Zangiefs 360 moves and jumps, he can just pull off his Ultra and they'll slip on him and into the Ultra.

RoXer

03-09-2010, 11:12 PM

So does anyone know how all this got leaked so early on?

Kalyx triaD

03-09-2010, 11:15 PM

I don't believe in leaks, it's all neo-promotion.

Khuntry

03-10-2010, 12:10 AM

I LOVE HAKAN!!!

Kalyx triaD

03-10-2010, 12:34 AM

Yeah, I bet.

Khuntry

03-10-2010, 12:36 AM

*sigh* whatever 'triad...

Kalyx triaD

03-10-2010, 12:39 AM

Gonna beat his ass, too.

Drakul

03-10-2010, 12:44 AM

Some more info on those European pre order bonuses.
The iPhone covers, costume pack and the t-shirts will be at different shops so if you want a specific thing you'll need to shop at a specific place but Capcom haven't said who is giving away what yet.

Pic of some of the bonuses:
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/162/ssfiveuropean20preorder.jpg

The iPhone covers and shirts wont be on sale anywhere else. At least, not until people put them up on eBay for a high price. The other 2 shirts haven't been revealed yet but I'm hoping for a Zangief, Ken or Akuma shirt complete with his Kenji on the back.

Source (http://www.capcom-europe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46931).

Khuntry

03-10-2010, 12:50 AM

Gonna beat his ass, too.

Who? cammy? fuck that bitch. Slip n slide

Kalyx triaD

03-10-2010, 12:57 AM

That's General Killer Bee to you.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-10-2010, 03:42 AM

Akuma shirt complete with his Kenji on the back.

Source (http://www.capcom-europe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46931).

A MILLION TIMES THIS

Fignuts

03-10-2010, 04:30 AM

You have to be a member of the forum to view that pic, Hasney.

Drakul

03-10-2010, 04:40 AM

You have to be a member of the forum to view that pic, Hasney.

It's the pic I posted above.

When I mentioned the Zangief/Ken/Akuma shirt, it was just me saying what I hoped the other 2 shirts were.

Fignuts

03-10-2010, 05:26 AM

OH I SEE

Funky Fly

03-10-2010, 06:52 AM

Any word on the North American preoder shit? Also, wtf Hakan?

Drakul

03-10-2010, 12:37 PM

Any word on the North American preoder shit? Also, wtf Hakan?

Little thumb puppets/covers.

In the US, you can receive a timed exclusive download pack from Amazon and Best Buy, which will boast "Super Classic Costumes" for Dhalsim, Fei Long, Blanka, Gen and Guile. If you'd rather pre-order at your local GameStop, you'll get a set of thumb covers...yeah, thumb covers. With Street Fighter characters on them. For thumb wrestling. You can't make that up.

Source (http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/6664.html).

Funky Fly

03-11-2010, 05:15 AM

Little thumb puppets/covers.

Source (http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/6664.html).

What in the gay? Fuck, I should have known better. Last time it was a Ryu headband. :roll:

Any word on a Limited Edition release?

#BROKEN Hasney

03-11-2010, 05:22 AM

What in the gay? Fuck, I should have known better. Last time it was a Ryu headband. :roll:

Any word on a Limited Edition release?

Yes, there will not be one.

Funky Fly

03-11-2010, 05:35 AM

FUCK

Drakul

03-11-2010, 05:57 AM

Japan get an LE with a soundtrack CD & the SSFIV anime DVD.
There isn't enough interest outside of Japan to justify an LE in the US/EU, Capcom Europe said. I doubt it.

Funky Fly

03-11-2010, 08:08 AM

I suppose the soundtrack will end up on shadowhaxor.net and the movie will get subbed. :-\

Drakul

03-11-2010, 10:06 AM

Yeah. I'd wish we got the anime. It looks a lot better than the SFIV one.

Why dub it and use it as a trailer on the UK dashboard/Market place if we're never going to see it? I'm pretty sure you pay voice actors by the line (Lionhead said they do, so I'd assume others do to.) so why waste money dubbing a trailer to a movie we'll never see?

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I know it was posted a few pages back but incase anyone missed it and wanted to see it now that I brought it up.

Fignuts

03-11-2010, 01:31 PM

Gonzo?

No thanks lol

Drakul

03-11-2010, 01:32 PM

I'm no anime buff, is Gonzo bad?

Fignuts

03-11-2010, 02:28 PM

I'm no anime buff either, but everything I've seen with the gonzo label has been awful.

Also, it looks like a Juri anime, more than street fighter.

Kalyx triaD

03-12-2010, 07:42 PM

Juri's just the main villain, like Viper in the last anime. It looks like a SF anime to me, and Gonzo's alright. Great names behind this production.

Khuntry

03-12-2010, 11:23 PM

Gonzo was behind Afro Samurai .... if anyone cares.

Funky Fly

03-13-2010, 07:32 AM

Afro Samurai was pretty good. Might still Czech this out.

Drakul

03-15-2010, 12:02 AM

I've only ever heard Afro Samurai getting praise, so I'd have thought Gonzo would have been really good.

For anyone interested, Hakans moves, techniques etc were demoed at GDC by Seth Killian. Apparantly, Hakan is really similair to Zangief but with a faster speed and more options. Like Zangief, his weakness is projectiles but he can do an EX version of his Oil Up to let a projectile pass through him. Oiling up makes his moves stronger etc so by spamming projectiles and having hakan Oil Up past theme, the opponent just makes Hakan more powerful and dangerous:

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Blitz

03-15-2010, 12:18 AM

Hakan is gonna be a force in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing, I can tell now.

Kalyx triaD

03-15-2010, 08:34 AM

Khuntry will head to the finals of the second TPWW SF4 tourny with his Hakan, this I promise.

Khuntry

03-15-2010, 11:27 AM

I love my daughters they are so pretty!

Drakul

03-15-2010, 03:12 PM

UK Preorder bonuses/which shop gives away what:

Still a few more to be sorted out but the following stores have the following free preorder items

Game - Costume pack
GameStation - Guile T shirt
HMV - Japanese Style Packaging
Play.com - Iphone covers
Shopto.net - Dhalsim T Shirt
ASDA - Ken T Shirt
Hut.net - Blanka T Shirt
Indies & GameStop - Ryu T Shirt

(some items subject to change)

I'll be going for the Ken t-shirt, then. Although it's a little iffy with the "still a few items to sort out". I don't want to jump from shop to shop preordering and canceling everywhere. I know I could just wait until nearer release but I like to get everything done quickly.

Kalyx triaD

03-16-2010, 07:20 AM

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Sakura's rockin. Mecha Bison's okay. Juri looks cool and will most likely join my 'deck'.

Khuntry

03-20-2010, 02:23 AM

Khuntry

03-20-2010, 02:40 AM

Kalyx triaD

03-20-2010, 02:42 AM

I'm decided, Juri's in my deck.

Khuntry

03-20-2010, 02:47 AM

Khuntry

03-20-2010, 02:48 AM

Khuntry

03-20-2010, 02:49 AM

Khuntry

03-20-2010, 02:50 AM

Khuntry

03-20-2010, 02:51 AM

Khuntry

03-20-2010, 02:52 AM

Khuntry

03-20-2010, 02:53 AM

Kalyx triaD

03-20-2010, 02:53 AM

Kalyx triaD

03-20-2010, 02:56 AM

Khuntry

03-20-2010, 03:02 AM

Khuntry

03-20-2010, 03:03 AM

Its decided Hakan's in my deck..

Khuntry

03-20-2010, 03:03 AM

GET FUCKIN HYPE!!!!

Kalyx triaD

03-20-2010, 03:16 AM

Fucking quicker Focus Dashes and Cancels. They are punishing out of Focus Dashes and Cancels! I can already tell you Cammy's gonna be a bigger bitch than before. Sakura will be greatly improved with this as well. And now my Ken has something keep up the pressure game. GURREN SENPU KYAKU!!

Kalyx triaD

03-20-2010, 03:23 AM

Khuntry

03-20-2010, 10:50 AM

He's Legit.

Kalyx triaD

03-21-2010, 12:16 AM

He's as legit as God Rugal on hard difficulty.

Drakul

03-22-2010, 03:01 PM

Any word on a Limited Edition release?

Turns out the US is getting something called the "Dojo Edition". It will contain:

◦Super Street Fighter® IV
◦Super Street Fighter® IV Dojo Edition Gym Bag
◦T-shirt featuring Dudley tossing his rose
◦24 oz aluminum water bottle with carabiner (BPA free) featuring Ibuki
◦Super Street Fighter® IV Dojo Edition head band
◦1 GB USB drive featuring Juri and containing character art, wallpapers, comics and more

http://www.thelostgamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/dojo_360-1.jpg

Source (http://www.thelostgamer.com/2010/03/20/super-street-fighter-iv-dojo-edition-revealed/).

I hope this makes it to Europe. Although, I see no mention of the Anime, unless it's on the 1 gig USB drive.

Khuntry

03-24-2010, 12:24 AM

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Drakul

03-24-2010, 02:03 AM

The intro is up on YouTube but they are all pretty low quality. Really pixelated.

Funky Fly

03-24-2010, 03:34 AM

I'd be fine with just the game, shirt and usb stick. Bet only like 100 come to Canada.

Kalyx triaD

03-24-2010, 11:01 PM

Khuntry

03-25-2010, 02:47 AM

This game is worth more than 40$. Capcom is short-changing themselves.

Tell that to every one who's bitching and moaning about it being a whopping 40 bucks.

Kalyx triaD

03-25-2010, 03:07 AM

New online modes, ten new characters (can count on one hand with fingers cut off the number of fighting game sequels that add ten fucking characters), new challenges, updated balance, getting actors to do new VO for the returns and getting new actors for the new characters, anime and other cross promotions...

I'd demand 60$ for this full sequel.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-25-2010, 04:18 AM

I'd be fine with just the game, shirt and usb stick. Bet only like 100 come to Canada.

It's exclusive to the Capcom store so if they ship to Canada, you'll have to grab it from them.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-25-2010, 04:45 AM

One of Ken's new win quotes is brilliant.

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/168850-24_flowchartken01.jpg

Love the Ken flowchart.

Kalyx triaD

03-25-2010, 05:05 AM

BOOSH

Kalyx triaD

03-25-2010, 06:04 AM

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/03/500x_maikof13.jpg

#BROKEN Hasney

03-25-2010, 07:46 AM

Preview from someone who wasn't that excited for the game:

http://www.destructoid.com/getting-all-oiled-up-for-super-street-fighter-iv-168796.phtml

That replay channel is looking awesome

http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/168796-getting-all-oiled-up-for-super-street-fighter-iv/image007-620x.jpg

Blitz

03-25-2010, 01:23 PM

lol @ flowchart. Have not touched SFIV in several months, need to get back into it.

Kalyx triaD

03-26-2010, 06:17 AM

Replays FTW. Every game ever needs it.

Funky Fly

03-30-2010, 05:08 AM

It's exclusive to the Capcom store so if they ship to Canada, you'll have to grab it from them.

Oh god damnit

Blitz

03-30-2010, 10:10 AM

Zombie Street Fighters. (http://cghub.com/images/view/57405/)

Kalyx triaD

03-30-2010, 10:12 AM

Already saved the pics. Very cool.

Drakul

03-31-2010, 01:19 AM

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3178499

Live stream right now.

Edit: Whoever is playing as player 2 is being Abel in every fight. Wish he'd pick someone else.

Drakul

03-31-2010, 01:39 AM

Gonna try and see if I can embeed the live show right here.

Edit: Well, the live feed is over now but here is a video of it.

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Kalyx triaD

03-31-2010, 03:14 PM

Kalyx triaD

04-02-2010, 08:45 AM

Drakul

04-03-2010, 01:45 AM

Kalyx triaD

04-03-2010, 05:53 AM

omg

Kalyx triaD

04-04-2010, 10:26 AM

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs47/f/2009/214/7/f/Street_Fighter_IV_3B_by_UdonCrew.jpg

Satui no Hadou!!!!!!

Khuntry

04-05-2010, 10:46 AM

eww

Kalyx triaD

04-05-2010, 11:31 AM

So it's dawned on me that the later iterations of the Street Fighter II series was overrated fluff. Super Turbo was fluff. HD Remix is also fluff. The game mechanics were acceptable but the requirements for high level play seemed to favor races to the bottom.

The Alpha and III series were way better (particularly Alpha 2 Gold and 3rd Strike), so it's a wonder why people fap to the II series. I mean, I used to, but my eyes were opened. I'd SNK were doing great things around the time Super Turbo was out, but I was too young to give a shit. And that I know what's been going on historically (with a less narrow view on 2D fighters), I feel the II series lacks compared to today's games. You may say that's an obvious conclusion, with most game series getting better through time, but people still worship Super Turbo and HD Remix.

They are gay I win goodbye.

Kalyx triaD

04-05-2010, 11:35 AM

Also judged Arcana Heart unfairly and will be giving Virtua Fighter 5 another chance. Probably gonna get back into DOA4 (although I enjoyed the series anyway).

RoXer

04-05-2010, 12:08 PM

I still have VF5. Haven't goozex it or traded it in or anything. I only learned the moves for one character though (the monk. Forgot his name)

It's very deep and I think that's what the problem was for me. Too many movelists to memorize, not enough time.

If you wanna hop on, let me know.

Kalyx triaD

04-05-2010, 12:20 PM

I'll try to snatch a used copy and we'll have some matches.

Funky Fly

04-05-2010, 06:41 PM

I have VF 5. Played it once. Still too much like VF 4: very floaty jumps, and some people have ridiculous inputs for moves. The potential for greatness is there, but just not my cup of tea.

Drakul

04-05-2010, 11:57 PM

Khuntry

04-06-2010, 12:08 AM

I've also been meaning to try VF5. Saw for 15 bucks somewhere, cant even remember where.

#BROKEN Hasney

04-07-2010, 07:18 AM

http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/s-kill/92a81e8b0aac955a49b4ce63cd995929.jpg?v=129600
The Super SFIV devs (http://www.capcom.co.jp/blog/sf4/development_blog/2010/04/06_2130.html) have been breaking with tradition a bit lately and dishing some great dirt on the ways your favorite characters have been adjusted in Super SFIV. The good news is that there's, well, good news--for everyone!
You can really see the "balance up" philosophy in action here, with great stuff on how Guile became more "Guile-like," Vega got helpful buffs, Dhalsim does more damage (!), M. Bison's psycho crusher has become a scary move again, and Sagat can still be a beast even without making you feel like you got robbed when he beats you. This game is really shaping up to be amazing, and although the internet has been doing a lot of griping about Guile, we may see the power of Guile in action sooner than you think... Muahaha!
Of course all thanks to SRK's Azrael for the lightning quick translations (http://www.shoryuken.com/content.php?r=543-SSF4-Developer-Blog-Translation-for-04-06-10)!

-- Let's get right into it - please tell us about the adjustments for Guile.

Okada:
Since SFII, Guile has been a character who can't do his special moves instantly, but with plenty of good normal moves. Since we wanted to work on that area in S4, he's the only character in all of the game who we've made adjustments to his charging time, and we've also made some big revisions to his normal moves.

Sano:
We also worked on his offensive priority quite a bit.

Okada:
We've also changed the functionality of the Guile High Kick (DF+RH), which many people didn't quite know how to use. In IV we intended for it to be an anti-air for when Guile doesn't have charge, but in S4 we've added combo functionality to it.

-- Combo functionality...which means we can juggle after it?
http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/s-kill/50f60d871fdce94cb8650b2f894d2dbc.jpg?v=129600 (http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=105713453)

Okada:
Yes. You can juggle after it with EX Flash Kick, etc, and you can use it in combos. We've also adjusted his Spinning Back Knuckle (backfist) so that you can combo it after a Sonic Boom. We've also made it so that his Reverse Spin Kick (Upside-down kick) makes low attacks miss more easily, and tried to make him more like his old self.

Tsukamoto:
We've also made some corrections to his combos.

Okada:
Yes, we have. The Guile players who gave it their all with his combos, they didn't really get enough reward for their efforts. That was the biggest thing about his combos, so in S4 we took that into consideration and we're adjusting the amount of damage his link combos do.

-- What about adjustments to his special moves?

Okada:
Guile is all about the Sonic Boom. But in IV, when getting into a fireball fight he ended up on the losing side. That's not really Guile. Even though SB is a charge move, he's supposed to be the one to win in a fireball fight. So in order to get closer to that idea, we've made some slight adjustments to the charge time for Sonic Boom to make it stronger.

-- What type of move is his new ultra, Sonic Hurricane?

Okada:
As the Sonic Hurricane is a move based on being grounded, you can use it to pressure your opponent, do chip damage, or just keep your opponent in front of you and stop them from moving. We've also made it so that it can be used in combos. So then because of that, it does a little less damage than his Somersault Explosion Ultra I. So if you want to take off big chunks of damage, use Somersault Explosion, but if you want an all-purpose attack plan with lots of variations, then you can use Sonic Hurricane.

-- Sounds like Guile's been buffed up.

Okada:
Yeah, I think he's risen up to the middle class at least. We've also given him a fun new move, so if you can use it when you have a chance I'd be happy about that.

Tsukamoto:
Ah, this was a bit of a secret topic during Hakan's reveal trailer. Guile's sunglasses.
http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/s-kill/43d08feb9ffece1b38246fc9389de803.jpg?v=129600 (http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=105713443)

Sano:
If you enter in the command, Guile puts on the sunglasses. Do it again, and he takes them off. ...And that's really all it does (laughs). We also wanted to make the sunglasses cancellable.

Okada:
Jump RH -> S.FP -> Sunglasses! (laughs) But this would just aggravate the player on the receiving end, so we gave up on it.

-- Next, tell us about Dhalsim's adjustments.

Okada:
The character who won the first national tournament. Dhalsim is a character where the players have found a lot of really interesting ways to use him, which surprised even us. But his overall damage output was kind of low, so the reward for reading your opponent wasn't that great. So if the player wasn't exceptionally skilled, there were many rough spots in using him. Although there was the thought that if we made him stronger in S4, those who were already good with him would just be even better, but as we wanted a wide range of Dhalsim players to be able to enjoy him more, we decided to give him some improvements.

Sano:
Isn't he the only character who hasn't has some kind of numerical reduction?

Okada:
Yeah, I think we talked about this the last time, but in order to increase the number of turns in a fight* we've reduced the damage output in general for all characters - all except for Dhalsim. His damage was low to begin with. Also, we've slightly increased his counter attacks. Since Dhalsim is a character who has difficult normals and trouble with footsies in close, we've improved his throw, and made his Drills better, which many people wanted. So for the Dhalsim players who felt like they lost once their opponent got in close, in S4 I think that will be a better fight for you.
(*Az: In the last blog they mentioned making the game so that if you read your opponent twice, you would probably win - they were adjusting S4 to increase this number, so "turns" probably refers to this.)

-- Many people wanted the his Yoga Fire to be sped up...

Okada:
We haven't changed the speed of Yoga Fire, but EX Yoga Fire now goes full-screen, so you can pressure people from areas you couldn't before now.

-- What type of move is his new ultra, Yoga Shangri-la?

Okada:
Yoga Shangri-la is a move that can be used during Dhalsim's unique jump arc. As its for grounded use, it won't throw an airborne opponent, but its really good when used with his teleport. To put it simply, Yoga Castastrophe is a move for starting an attack string, while Yoga Shangri-la is a move for ending one.

Sano:
The hitbox for Yoga Shangri-la is pretty big, and sort of similar to the headbutt Drill. So its difficult for an opponent to tell in an instant whether Yoga Shangri-la or Headbutt Drill is coming, and that adds some variation to his attack patterns.
http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/s-kill/cbeae34e0a62894360ffbe4d73302868.jpg?v=129600 (http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=105713433)

-- Now then, please tell us about Balrog's adjustments.

Okada:
As Balrog was already a pretty strong character, I think he was pretty high up in the tiers in IV. So we wanted to keep his current playstyle intact, but make his freedom of use a bit better. Probably the biggest adjustment is that we've re-examined his input priority. In IV, his Dash Uppercut and Grand Dash Uppercut sometimes wouldn't come out, or would come out on their own, so we've adjusted this.

-- How about his new ultra, Dirty Bull?

Okada:
Dirty Bull is a throw type move that deals out massive stun. Balrog is a character who can make his opponents clam up and then deal out chip damage, or if he breaks their guard he can deal out big rushing damage. But if he has his opponent guarding, for the most part he can really only do chip damage. So now he has the Dirty Bull, which is another way of breaking his opponent's defenses. As was said before, the move does massive stun - so if you hit it after getting in a good rush attack, there's a high likelihood that your opponent will be stunned. For those looking to dish out big damage, you'll want to stick to Violent Buffalo, but if you want more ways to pressure your opponent, then I think Dirty Bull is a nice choice.
http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/s-kill/1e5e674d4eb8630c546274a276210d19.jpg?v=130080 (http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=105713423)

-- Now please tell us about Vega's adjustments.

Okada:
We've made Vega stronger! Probably the biggest thing is that we've given him more overheads. His Piece of Mercury (DF+MK) was a high attack, but in S4 it now hits overhead. Many people said it was hard to get knockdowns with Vega in IV, but with this attack hitting overhead now this should increase his attacking options. Also, we mentioned this before, but we've made his claw and mask more durable, so they don't come off so easily now. We're also adjusting his vitality even when he has the mask and claw, so I believe players will be able to use a stronger playstyle. We've also increased the invulnerability periods on all his special moves and made them stronger.
http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/s-kill/7e0d4a811764419a4e93e5bcebf73bfe.jpg?v=130080 (http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=105713413)
Sano:
To give some specific details, we've made his Scarlet Terror unthrowable, so it can be better used against Zangief's Screw Pile Driver. Also, his MP Rolling Crystal Flash will cause guard stun until the very end, so he doesn't have to worry about it being interrupted by an attack with invincibility, and can use it safely as a chip-damage move.

-- How about his ultras?

Okada:
First, we've vastly improved his Bloody High Claw. Now it hits on the way up, the same as his EX Flying Barcelona Attack, so there are more situations in which he can land it. Also, Splendid Claw reduces his hitbox and moves along very quickly. Bloody High Claw does good damage and is good for anti-air, while Splendid Claw is for grounded opponents. I think Splendid Claw is easier to use than Bloody High Claw, so that adds to his strength.

-- Many people feel that Vega isn't quite as agile as compared to his SFII version...?

Okada:
Really though, in IV Vega is one of the most agile characters in the game. It's just that he's tall and his legs have a particular movement to them, so if you look at the image it doesn't look like he's moving much at all.

-- There were also a lot of opinions that his claw throw-away move came out too easily.

Sano:
We have taken another look at the inputs for that. Except for those who do a lot of inputs from crouching position, it shouldn't really come out on its own anymore.

#BROKEN Hasney

04-07-2010, 07:19 AM

-- Well then, now tell us about the adjustments to Sagat.

Okada:
Sagat was well known as a strong character, and we on the dev team felt so as well. This time around, we wanted to retain what he could do, so we went with reducing his damage output. Using the moves and combos he often utilized as a reference, we adjusted his attack power, and we also took another look at his jumping strong punch, which people felt was lopsidedly strong. Of course, you have to read your opponents movements in order to be able to hit them, but as his combo window for attacks was on the long side, we adjusted that as well.

Sano:
Basically, the situations where he can just throw something out and it will be okay - those have been reduced.

Okada:
Yes. If you look at him as a whole, the nerfed parts sort of stand out. But we thought that just nerfing him was kind of sad, so we've given him a new move. The "Angry Charge" uses up meter, but affects the functionality of his Tiger Uppercut. If Sagat hits Tiger Uppercut during Angry Charge, it does more damage, and it increases your chances of beating your opponent with an air combo. So this is something you should try to do when you have meter.
http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/s-kill/800883b2eb6c21116f17cd37fdb3df67.jpg?v=145920 (http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=105713403)

-- Sagat was called the strongest in IV - what do you think his position is in S4?

Okada:
Now, I feel like he's either 1st or 2nd. Its not that his position has changed, but our adjustments have allowed for the other characters to close the gap on him. So its not that we've just made him weaker, but we've made the other characters more competitive with him.

Sano:
So for the players who used Sagat before, instead of thinking that they won based on the character's ability, now they can think that Sagat is strong because the player is strong.

-- What type of move is his new ultra, Tiger Cannon?

Okada:
In contrast to Tiger Destruction, which moves him forward, Tiger Cannon is a powered-up version of his Tiger Shot. As Ryu is his rival in the story, we also figured that Tiger Cannon would be a nice accompaniment to Ryu's Metsu Hadouken. It doesn't have the destructive power of Tiger Destruction, but its a projectile move that can be used regardless of where the opponent is on screen, and I think it will be nice for those who want to improve their footsie game.

-- And finally, tell us about the improvements to Bison.

Okada:
I think there are a lot of skilled Bison players in IV, but Bison didn't really have a good go-to move. Bison's signature move is his Psycho Crusher, so for our adjustments we took another look at his usage of it.
http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/s-kill/420409b62e1bdf31b88910411d418089.jpg?v=129600 (http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=105713393)

-- The usage of Psycho Crusher?

Okada:
We've increased the functionality of Psycho Crusher to bring back the "Psycho Tail" image from back in the day. In the past, it would do chip damage even after he passed through the opponent, and trip people up, so we've made adjustments to bring that back. It was often said that the Psycho Crusher was useless in IV, but now you can use it on wakeup to give Bison an advantage.

-- Are there any other areas that have been changed?

Okada:
We've improved the EX Psycho Crusher's ability to negate fireballs. So now he can nullify a fireball and keep on with his attack.

-- What kind of move is his new ultra, Psycho Punisher?

Okada:
His ultra in IV, Nightmare Booster, was mainly meant for in-combos, and has high damage output. So his new ultra, Psycho Punisher, is a move to help Bison against projectile characters. He flies in a parabola, so in those times when projectile characters are zoning him out now he can use this ultra. Also, the biggest feature of Psycho Punisher is that its a command move. So you can use it without having to store a charge.

-- Do you have a message to everyone looking forward to playing the game?

Okada:
Of the characters we talked about this time around, I believe people were the most concerned about Vega and Sagat. We've improved Vega so that he finally feels like one of the strong four bosses (Four Kings ie the WW bosses), so to all the people who have stuck with Vega I really want to say thank you. As for Sagat, as Ryu's rival I don't think his position as changed, but he has a lot more openings than he did in IV. So for people fighting against Sagat, be sure to take advantage of those openings and take the fight to him, and I think it'll be a good match. For Sagat players, you may feel that he's really been nerfed, but he's got a new move, and his position as The King (or, the emperor) hasn't really changed, so please enjoy him in this game as well.
http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/s-kill/92a81e8b0aac955a49b4ce63cd995929.jpg?v=129600 (http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=105713383)

Tsukamoto:
Well everyone, did you enjoy today's entry? Sorry to those whose characters we haven't talked about yet. Please wait just a little while longer! Next time we'll be talking about the adjustments for El Fuerte, C.Viper, Abel, Rufus, Seth, Akuma, and Gouken.

See you next week!

#BROKEN Hasney

04-07-2010, 07:19 AM

Reading all that has got me stupidly hyped now.

Funky Fly

04-08-2010, 06:45 AM

Fuck, I always felt like Vega was ridiculous. One of those guys that just got stronger every iteration. Like Ryu is pretty powerful, but they left out his SF III kick for balance. Vega just kept everything and still has ridiculous range/normals.

Kalyx triaD

04-08-2010, 11:16 AM

tee hee

Funky Fly

04-09-2010, 05:05 AM

Gule becoming more Guile-like is scary too. His normals were perfect for me in SF2, but seemed different somehow in 4. May be great, but may just end up being even more of a pain in the ass. I really hope Feilong;s fling kick thingy goes back to the way it was in super turbo. The SF4 version is not so great. SF4 Feilong in general is not so great. Can't wait for DeeJay

Kalyx triaD

04-09-2010, 09:55 AM

Replays can be shown to a party of up to 8 players. The host can toggle attack and input data as well as skip back and forth between different rounds within a fight or restart the replay completely. Voice chat is enabled throughout. Had a great fight that you want to show your buddies? This is easier than ever.

Like Halo 3's Theater. Awesome. This should be in every multiplayer game.

Drakul

04-20-2010, 01:27 PM

We can create our own private online tournament and save a replay of the entire thing.

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Will this be any use to us with our tournament?

Kalyx triaD

04-20-2010, 01:29 PM

That might just be our tourny!

Kalyx triaD

04-20-2010, 01:30 PM

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/171152-super-street-fighter-iv-360-avatar-items-incoming/screenshot.4-noscale.jpg

LOL at the PG'ing of Juri's top.

Drakul

04-20-2010, 01:35 PM

I'm a little dissapointed there is no Ken or Dan outfit for our Avatar. I can understand why we wont get a Zangief outfit.

Is that a guy wearing Ibuki's outfit behind the Dudley Avatar?

Think we'll get a Hadouken prop?

Kalyx triaD

04-20-2010, 01:39 PM

Pretty sure that's a chick wearing Ibuki's garb.

And correction, the tourny mode in SSF4 is cool but it'll probably still be better to use the structure from last year. But I imagine we'll be using that mode often!

Kalyx triaD

04-20-2010, 01:40 PM

LOVE the promo art filter.

RoXer

04-20-2010, 02:40 PM

That tournament mode is nice.

It will not be a part of our tournament though.

Kalyx triaD

04-20-2010, 02:48 PM

Being that you can invite players to watch a replay with you I am open to 'adopting' a TPdubber who wants some training and pointers to improve their game before the tourny. We can have exclusive sessions and analyze vids and I'll do my best to make you dangerous.

If I can get an afro-headed stoner from being a joke in Soulcalibur 4 to being a legit competitor in a few weeks, I can train anybody.

Khuntry, RoXer, and Funky should adopt a member as well. We can make it a project. Take the bottom tier players and see what we can do with them.

My Nuts

04-20-2010, 03:14 PM

Adopt my nuts in yr. mouth

Kalyx triaD

04-21-2010, 10:51 PM

Well then, first off tell us about the adjustments to Cammy.

Okada:
One of the first adjustments we made was to some of her moves that were just simply strong. Like the Cannon Spike, which had too much offensive power. But we have shortened the start-up for some of her moves that were a bit difficult to use, especially her Spin Knuckle, which should be much easier to use now.

Tamamura:
For her normals, we've given her a bit more priority on her normals. For example, her Far Standing Hard Kick now has anti-air properties, and has a bit more range than in Street Fighter 4, so now its good for controlling space. Also, her Crouching Hard Kick - in IV, sometimes it would look like it should hit but it didn't, so in this game it should be a bit easier to hit now. We've also improved the cross-up properties on her Jumping Light Kick, which should improve her aerial offense.

If we look at the total package, then Cammy has gotten more improvements than nerfs?

Okada:
Yes. While she has gotten a lot of improvements, to balance the game out in general damage on the whole is down, so I don't think players will feel that she is too strong. Now, she can better vary her attacks, so now players can enjoy different playstyles with her.

What type of move is her new ultra, the CQC (Cammy Quick Combination)?

Okada:
Her ultra in Street Fighter 4, the Spiral Drive Smasher was really good for rushing down, and could be used in combos. So we wanted to do something different for her for the new ultra, which is how CQC came about. CQC is a counter ultra, so if you don't successfully read your opponent's movements nothing is going to happen. Compared to the other characters though, it does a lot of damage, so it has great comeback potential. So it'll be difficult to hit, but if you do you get a great reward in damage dealt.

So this is a move that's best suited against attacking characters?

Sano:
If the player is really good at reading their opponent, then CQC can be used against any character. But if you use CQC against a grappler, it might lead to trouble. In an instant you can find yourself eating a Spinning Pile Driver (laughs).

Next, tell us about the adjustments for Fei Long

Okada:
The image of Fei Long is one of a character who bulldozes his way forward, especially using his Rekka Ken's. That much hasn't changed. But we have strengthened his straight-forward moves. For example, we have changed the timing of the attacks for his Standing Hard Kick. In Street Fighter 4, an opponent could do a Focus Attack in between the two hits, but now the two hits are consecutive, so its a move that will beat out the opponent's Focus Attack. You can also use it as just a quick combo. We've also adjusted the inputs for his Flying Kick (Chicken Wing), so now it is easier to pull off.

Tell us about his new ultra, Gekirin Ken.

Okada:
This is also a counter ultra, the same as Cammy's CQC. A counter ultra might be more suited to Fei Long than Cammy - the main force of Fei's offense is his Rekka Ken's, and opponents will usually want to get an attack in to break it up. If Fei players can use the counter ultra well, then this will be a great asset to them.

Well then, tell us about the adjustments for Sakura.

Okada:
In Street Fighter 4, the startup on her Fireball was kind of slow, and what would happen is that opponents could jump in on her easily. So in SSFIV, we've reduced some of the startup to make the move a bit easier to use. We've also improved her cross-up abilities. In the past, Sakura could jump in and then link together moves and this was her primary means of offense. But in IV, Sakura didn't have a lot of cross-up ability, so fighting like this was a bit difficult. So we've changed her Jumping Medium Kick to have a bigger cross-up range, which should allow her to jump in and confuse her opponent's guard better. So she should have an easier time jumping in than in Street Fighter 4.

What type of move is her new ultra, Shinkuu Hadouken?

Okada:
While Haru Ranman was a hit-type ultra that could be used in combos, Shinkuu Hadouken is a projectile type. Shinkuu Hadouken doesn't do as much damage, but I feel that its easier to use, such as in situations of controlling space. Also, depending on the button you use to activate it, it can become the anti-air Shinkuu Tengyo Hadouken, or the ground-based Shinkuu Hadouken.

Sano:
Shinkuu Hadouken is a good move to have when she has her opponent in the corner. If you use the anti-air Tengyo Hadouken, with its upwards angle she can catch people who are trying to jump out. She can also hit people with it who are still on the ground. When she has ultra, and the opponent is closer to the corner, she can use it to scare her opponents out of jumping or using air-based attacks. So this ultra will change the way people fight against Sakura.

Tell us about the adjustments for Dan.

Okada:
Dan is one of our more interesting characters, so we wanted to strengthen him on that basis. We've made him a bit more fun to use, and adjusted some things that didn't work in IV. For example, when doing a chain cancel, his recovery time was kind of strange, so we fixed that to make things easier to link up. Also, we've slightly adjusted the start up frames on his weak Air Dan Kick so that it hits easier. He also gets a bit more priority, which makes his attacks a bit easier to hit now than before.

Tell us about his new ultra, the Haou Gadouken.

Okada:
Haou Gadouken is a projectile move. Although its best range is up close, if it hits the opponent it does nice chip damage, so its a nice move against other projectiles. Also, it has combo potential, and you can hit it off juggles.

With these adjustments, has Dan moved up in the tiers?

Okada:
Within the dev team, we feel that this is the Strongest Dan Ever, but his position won't change from SFIV! (laughs) That position is all his.

RoXer

04-21-2010, 11:01 PM

We've also adjusted the inputs for his Flying Kick (Chicken Wing), so now it is easier to pull oWe've also adjusted the inputs for his Flying Kick (Chicken Wing), so now it is easier to pullWe've also adjusted the inputs for his Flying Kick (Chicken Wing), so now it is easier to pull off offffWe've also adjusted the inputs for his Flying Kick (Chicken Wing), so now it is easier to pull offWe've also adjusted the inputs for his Flying Kick (Chicken Wing), so now it is easier to pull off

Kalyx triaD

04-21-2010, 11:18 PM

So you approve?

Fignuts

04-21-2010, 11:23 PM

I don't. Makes Fei Long more annoying.

Kalyx triaD

04-21-2010, 11:31 PM

Fei really needed the buffs. He was next to useless. Impressive RoXer got the mileage he got.

Blitz

04-21-2010, 11:41 PM

Fei was is not bad to use. I never had too much trouble with the Chicken Wing motion but I'm glad they changed it. And if they've changed that, I hope they changed Cammy's Hooligan Roll motion too.

Cammy's damage reduction displeases me. Guess I'll just have to learn to be trickier with her.

Kalyx triaD

04-22-2010, 12:03 AM

The damage reduction is uniform, across the board. Not just Cammy.

Kalyx triaD

04-22-2010, 12:52 AM

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np5/ssf4-sd.jpg

Somebody, somewhere, is pissing me off right now. Anybody got buds throwing down early?

#BROKEN Hasney

04-22-2010, 01:09 AM

You could download it from last week, I just ran out of discs.

Khuntry

04-22-2010, 01:06 PM

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np5/ssf4-sd.jpg

Somebody, somewhere, is pissing me off right now. Anybody got buds throwing down early?

FUUCK MAN GODDAMMIT!!:mad::mad::'(

Kalyx triaD

04-23-2010, 03:22 AM

DAMN iNATOR

04-23-2010, 03:51 AM

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np5/ssf4-sd.jpg

Somebody, somewhere, is pissing me off right now. Anybody got buds throwing down early?

If you take a close look at the receipt, it was sold at a W*M store in Bardstown, KY.:y:

Not that I approve of anyone, anywhere selling things before they're supposed to be stocked or whatever, but I digress.

Fignuts

04-23-2010, 04:05 AM

I approve of it, when they sell it to me.

Kalyx triaD

04-23-2010, 09:09 AM

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/094/9/2/a_moment_before_the_storm_by_lastscionz.jpg

.44 Magdalene

04-25-2010, 06:03 AM

So yeah, Mecha Zangief.

Drakul

04-25-2010, 08:24 AM

Funky Fly

04-25-2010, 08:45 AM

Khuntry

04-25-2010, 01:07 PM

Khuntry

04-25-2010, 01:08 PM

Khuntry

04-25-2010, 01:08 PM

#BROKEN Hasney

04-25-2010, 01:15 PM

Can't believe I have to wait until Friday.

Cunts.

Fignuts

04-25-2010, 01:57 PM

Was just about to post that daigo vs wong match. Insane.

Fignuts

04-25-2010, 02:00 PM

Also, here is the whole video with daigo and wong having three matches with the new characters as well.

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RoXer

04-25-2010, 02:10 PM

Fignuts

04-25-2010, 02:12 PM

And 9/11 was perpetrated by aliens.

Kalyx triaD

04-25-2010, 02:14 PM

Note: Justin picked his main while Daigo was just entertaining him. If he had his Ryu that match would've been a flush for Daigo.

RoXer

04-25-2010, 02:16 PM

He needs to flash kick more.

Fignuts

04-25-2010, 02:18 PM

If you miss the flash kick tho, you are wide open. Against someone like wong who can hit really punishing combos, it's not something you want to risk too much.

Kalyx triaD

04-25-2010, 02:40 PM

Hence the flash kick FADCs. Overall that was a weaker performance by Daigo than what I've seen before.

Extra Note: All the jackass who claim SF4 is a "scrub game" with "easy mechanics"; I suppose they just pick up the game and destroy all of the advance players of the game, right? Fucking wrong. People who talk shit like that completely avoid high level games from SF4 (and TvC) - not realizing a game being made more assessable has shit to do with the application of skill in the game. They just hate that lesser players have a better chance, which is all sorts of elitist gay stuff.

Fignuts

04-25-2010, 02:45 PM

Are these jackasses GG/BlazeBlue players? Or are they tekken/soul caliber players?

Because if it is the latter, then that is kinda hilarious.

Fignuts

04-25-2010, 02:45 PM

Also, the OST is up at shadowhaxor, if anyone cares.

Kalyx triaD

04-25-2010, 02:58 PM

Are these jackasses GG/BlazeBlue players? Or are they tekken/soul caliber players?

Because if it is the latter, then that is kinda hilarious.

They are like clockwork:

Sequel to game series is announced.
The old game was played for years and certain exploits were discovered after the fact (this is important).
The best players (those who valued the exploits) want the new game to cater to their exploitative 'advanced play'.
Developers did not like exploits from old game, they want their install base to be less polarized.
Developers make known new mechanics to allow more players a fighting chance, character balance, nerfs and buffs.
Elite players get butthurt the dev team responded to their breaking the game. No more cheap raping, lord forbid.
Players who actually care about the franchise and not a single iteration rejoice.
Elite players make war with them, call them "scrubs" and curse the new game.
New game drops. The elite players buy it anyway, end up having a blast. Casual players close the gap in skill. Community is expanded by the 'scrub mechanics'.
Time passes, new exploits are discovered. Cycle continues.

DAMN iNATOR

04-25-2010, 03:37 PM

IGN.COM VIDEO REVIEW
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.44 Magdalene

04-25-2010, 03:40 PM

I just hated how

A.) Slow IV was
B.) They wrecked mah Vegas!!!1111eleven

And while I wasn't originally impressed with Super since, fuck, people are going to be boring Ken or broken Sagat/Zangief regardless of how many far more entertaining characters you add, I've gotta admit that the game does play a wee bit faster. That, and they fixed Vega's Ultra to hit on the way up, making it far less TOTALLY FUCKING WORTHLESS than it was last time.

Though I'm still gonna fucking riot if they don't give me R. Mika. Seriously, guys--MAKOTO? ADON? But no muddafuggen' R. Mika? I'd take her over retarded ass El Fuerte in a heartbeat. Watch, they're gonna add Q or Necron or somebody as DLC just to piss me off.

Kalyx triaD

04-25-2010, 03:48 PM

They added characters in era sets, and Alpha was serviced twice over. Believe me I wanted Karin in there.

RoXer

04-25-2010, 03:50 PM

Hey .44 Magdalene, why haven't you signed up for the tourny?

#BROKEN Hasney

04-25-2010, 03:55 PM

Believe me I wanted Karin in there.

God yes.

.44 Magdalene

04-25-2010, 03:58 PM

Hey .44 Magdalene, why haven't you signed up for the tourny?

While I'm not exactly bad, I'm not nearly as confident in my SFIV powers as I am in say, BlazBlue or TvC. I spent a good majority of the time in first release SFIV discovering that the character I liked (Vega) was pretty much unplayable, then switching to another main--only to find out that they, too, are practically unplayable (Guile). Long story short, I kind of suck compared to... y'know, good players.

And if I had to guess, the tournament's probably for 360 because that's how these things work. D: And I only have a PS3. Unless I'm mistaken.

#BROKEN Hasney

04-25-2010, 04:00 PM

Yeah, I think only you and scared-little-girl Fignuts are getting this on PS3.

RoXer

04-25-2010, 04:00 PM

Yeah, 360 only. But don't worry about skill level, there's like 2 great, 2 good, and the rest aren't that goood.

.44 Magdalene

04-25-2010, 04:03 PM

#BROKEN Hasney

04-25-2010, 04:05 PM

Yeah, if my new 360 doesn't get here by Friday, I may have strangle someone.

I can live without the stick if it gets delayed, I just wanna play some SSF4.

Fignuts

04-25-2010, 04:05 PM

Yeah, I think only you and scared-little-girl Fignuts are getting this on PS3.

Please, I'm even wth funky fly. I would murder you.

RoXer

04-25-2010, 04:06 PM

Its double elimination which makes it a battle for 3rd, 4th, or 5th mostly. Once you get that far than yeah, you'll have to face Kalyx but you should proud of where you ended up nonetheless.

#BROKEN Hasney

04-25-2010, 04:06 PM

Please, I'm even wth funky fly. I would murder you.

I didn't say you were scared of me :shifty:

#BROKEN Hasney

04-25-2010, 04:07 PM

tbf, after putting the game in yesterday, I'm thinking the only person who should be scared of me now is Ant. Hopefully pick my game up again when this hits.

Kalyx triaD

04-25-2010, 04:08 PM

Yeah, but it's all going to be Kalyx jerking off as jobbers are fed into his mouth left and right. I'd rather not have Remember when I beat your Guile hoarded over my head for the rest of my TPWW career.

More importantly, my 360 is floating through limbo somewhere, leaving me inadequately equipped for such a tournament.

We've had our differences in the past but I'd love to know where you're getting this idea of me putting defeats in people's faces. I'm the TPWW SF4 champ, and I dare you to link an instance of me throwing a win in the faces of RoXer, Funky, thecc, etc. In fact it was good spirits all around if you read the thread's match-up responses.

.44 Magdalene

04-25-2010, 04:08 PM

So Bad Company, Super V, .44 Mag's not throwing down in this? I would sincerely like to share the replay of my beating their asses to the masses.

Kalyx triaD

04-25-2010, 04:12 PM

That's hype talk, come the fuck on. Everybody got it but you're scared of me having a win on you? You seemed to have thicker skin than that.

*punches shoulder*

Cowboy the fuck up.

.44 Magdalene

04-25-2010, 04:14 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3527/3205354977_19b088038d_o.gif

.44 Magdalene

04-25-2010, 04:15 PM

But now that I've gotten this pep talk, I have the courage to MANIFEST AN XBOX360 WITH MAH JUJU POWERS~

The "Oh no, my Guile sucks" remark should be taken as the less serious excuse of the two.

#BROKEN Hasney

04-25-2010, 04:15 PM

Cowboy the fuck up.

This isn't Red Dead Redemption :shifty:

.44 Magdalene

04-25-2010, 04:16 PM

I think Ken has a cowboy alternate outfit now.

I think God's been trying to tell me to play Ken

.44 Magdalene

04-25-2010, 04:21 PM

Flowchart Ken

.44 Magdalene

04-25-2010, 04:22 PM

Flowchart Rodeo Ken

Fignuts

04-25-2010, 04:25 PM

Think I'm the only person on tpww who ever uses abel, let alone frequently.

.44 Magdalene

04-25-2010, 04:26 PM

The Optimist does, though he's better with Balrog.

Fignuts

04-25-2010, 04:30 PM

Me and .44 will have our own tournament.

It will be quite short.

.44 Magdalene

04-25-2010, 04:31 PM

We could make it like, quadruple elimination

Kalyx triaD

04-25-2010, 04:33 PM

You're garbage, .44. Fucking FACE ME.

I will terrorize your family.

Kalyx triaD

04-25-2010, 06:06 PM

That's very interesting, but let me ask you this. How come did you not mention that you are from the Smash forums? Did you really think that everyone has already forgotten? You may think that you're an adult and are smarter than everyone here but let me tell you this, you are not as smart as you think you are. Just because most SRK members don't waste their time on reading posts (LOL) doesn't make you smarter than a four year old spitting garbage. You are but a cancer to these forums and Mr Wizard has already told you that he won't allow these forums to become a war zone (no recollection of this event) after all that shit you pulled in the FGD Smash threads (another made up event), go take your grudge against SRK somewhere else. (Okay...)

Some dude going on an absurd rant on me (complete with off-the-wall, baseless accusations) after one too many anti-SRK posts. Wow.

Fignuts

04-25-2010, 08:17 PM

Why the fuck do you post there?

Awful forum.

Kalyx triaD

04-25-2010, 08:28 PM

I... don't know. :(

alvarado52

04-25-2010, 09:16 PM

ive decided to take up a new character. Im not big on projectiles, but like a highly defense character with above average strength...who do you suggest? Besides my mom.

Kalyx triaD

04-25-2010, 09:22 PM

Abel, maybe Hakan, Makoto...

Khuntry

04-26-2010, 12:17 AM

Makoto is the exact opposite of a Defensive character

Fignuts

04-26-2010, 12:37 AM

So is abel, tbh.

alvarado52

04-26-2010, 02:39 AM

see, i used Bison alot because his attacks were mostly charge attacks, so by default i was usually in block mode. I want to stray away from that, but maintain the ability to gain offense from defense, yknow?

Kalyx triaD

04-26-2010, 02:58 AM

Charge characters have high priority normals, so you could take the fight to them and use special moves sparingly. I covered some of this some time ago hold on...

- I know it's a cliche choice but you really should start with Ryu/Ken. They have basic standards and specials that will help you learn the engine of the game before you learn the gimmick of a specific character. Basically you need to learn Street Fighter 4 before you learn Vega or somebody. However, if you like Vega, stick with him and learn his ass. Playing as characters you like is better than choosing by tiers (gay).

- Charge characters are more complicated than motions. But the idea is the charge characters have better standard attacks than motion characters. Do Vega's standing Roundhouse(Fierce Kick) and you'll see it's actually a free anti-air attack. His Fierce Punch also has great range and his backflips (PPP, KKK) dodge everything.

- BUT as far as charge moves go, and even 360 motions, you must learn buffering. Buffering commands is inputing the motion of a command during other actions. You need to charge back or down with Vega, right? I'm betting you catch yourself crouching or walking backward during a fight, limiting your movement while you ready a move. It doesn't have to be like this. When Vega is jumping (forward or backward) or doing an attack, why not hold back or down while it happens? When the attack is over the charge is done and you just hit forward/up+button and it will seen like you didn't have to limit your movement for a charge. When holding down for his leap attacks, notice his Sweep slides, use it to move forward while charging down. OR just arbitrarily press fierce punch a few times to throw off your opponent while you ready a leap attack. The key for charge characters is to stay busy while charging. All this requires you getting used to buffring commands. With 'Gief, you can do a 360 spin while executing certain attacks (namely the glowing hand).

.44 Magdalene

04-26-2010, 04:02 AM

So nobody get too fucking excited, online is the exact same boring piece of shit it was before, just faster. You could add 400 fucking new characters, people would do the same goddamn flowchart bullshit they did before with the same piece of shit characters they did before and it's going to try and match me to people with x8000 times my god damn BP on traditional characters even when it's clear I have zero fucking BP and am using a brand new god damn character. I could custom search but I get kicked out of every fucking match or the host leaves, I could quick search and get Abel players with 40505069696969 motherfucking god damn BP and it's not even a fucking learning experience because what am I supposed to fucking learn from getting perfected? Not to fucking play online? God fucking dammit.

Broke a fucking controller.

.44 Magdalene

04-26-2010, 04:04 AM

Teach me to try using a new fucking character, why god damn don't ya

Kalyx triaD

04-26-2010, 04:13 AM

.44 Magdalene

04-26-2010, 04:19 AM

Except that most of you are on 360 herp derp

.44 Magdalene

04-26-2010, 04:20 AM

#BROKEN Hasney

04-26-2010, 04:21 AM

Online SF4 was fun as hell, wouldn't care if SSF4 was more of the same.

Kalyx triaD

04-26-2010, 04:21 AM

That's what you get for getting a POS3. :roll:

.44 Magdalene

04-26-2010, 04:23 AM

I had a 360 and it red ringed. It got fixed and then lost in the mail and I don't think Microsoft believes us.

The PS3, on the other hand, still plays perfectly fine.

Kalyx triaD

04-26-2010, 04:23 AM

I could have just played fucking Cammy but no, had to god damn try to learn Makoto. "I beat arcade mode with her," I said. "I did most of her trials," I said. "I could play her online I guess, it'll match me with people of roughly my skill." LOL SURE TAUGHT ME A LESSON THERE, STREET FIGHTER

Despite my gaff earlier Makoto is an offensive character. She doesn't seem like your speed by the sound of you. You need a safer dude... like Sagat.

Kalyx triaD

04-26-2010, 04:24 AM

I had a 360 and it red ringed. It got fixed and then lost in the mail and I don't think Microsoft believes us.

The PS3, on the other hand, still plays perfectly fine.

Doesn't matter, I wasn't seriously ripping on PS3. Your purchase is your purchase.

.44 Magdalene

04-26-2010, 04:26 AM

.44 Magdalene

04-26-2010, 04:29 AM

Makoto can't even finish with a Super Combo because her Super's a buff instead of an attack. What in the fuck. There are certain trophies and bonuses and shit that Makoto = Nope, sorry.

At least they fixed Vega's fucking Ultra to be able to actually god damn hit now. Jesus.

Kalyx triaD

04-26-2010, 04:41 AM

Well yeah, she's a rushdown character and I gathered that. When every fucker I fought started spamming projectiles or having their attacks magically eat mine alive, though, I cannot fucking rush down. And if I can't play the character at all without learning every single iota of priority in the entire goddamn game as it relates to Makoto (because seriously, no fucking move I could do would go through on some of these characters--Sakura and Abel both could just plow right over me) I'm going to end up very god damn frustrated, which I did.

Also, they hit Sagat's HP pretty hard with the nerf bat. I could go back to playing fucking Guile I guess since I can actually control that way, I'm just pretty god damn tired of not getting to use the character I want because WHOOPS SORRY VEGA SUCKS. LOOKS LIKE MAKOTO REQUIRES YOU TO FUCKING MASTER PRIORITY AND TIMING TO THE SECOND BEFORE YOU CAN USE HER, SORRY

Makoto's EX flash-punch thing should be able to go through fireballs, right? And then there's jumping over them. Fireball spammers are easy to rape, especially with a mean bitch like Makoto. I think you're problem is with a general thing and not Makoto not working for you. Make avoiding fireballs a meta-game. don't even worry about winning, just find ways around fireballs and build your game from there. You'll be surprised how easily people fold after you shut down there tactics.

Vega is awesome. He's in my stable, though ranked fourth in effectiveness under my Cammy, Sakura, and Ken. But Vega is great, and I love his new Ultra. He does not suck.

Makoto can't even finish with a Super Combo because her Super's a buff instead of an attack. What in the fuck. There are certain trophies and bonuses and shit that Makoto = Nope, sorry.

At least they fixed Vega's fucking Ultra to be able to actually god damn hit now. Jesus.

Makoto's ascension move adds to her rush down, increasing the rape. But I understand if it's not as appealing as an attack.

.44 Magdalene

04-26-2010, 04:57 AM

I can get around the fireballs pretty easily, they're just fucking annoying because everybody starts every god damn fight that way. The magical OMNOMNOM right through every single attack in my repetoire with what looks like pretty basic shit (EX dash punch? MEET MY PERFECTLY NORMAL MEDIUM KICK. Already technically hitting me? TIME FOR GRABS ASSHOLE).

Vega's better but he was pretty shit tier in SFIV, though I'm used to playing Alpha 3 Vega.

Kalyx triaD

04-26-2010, 05:05 AM

What specifically is your biggest issue right now?

RoXer

04-26-2010, 05:19 AM

Being gay

RoXer

04-26-2010, 05:20 AM

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

.44 Magdalene

04-26-2010, 05:22 AM

LOL Roxer's got my number

RoXer

04-26-2010, 05:24 AM

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Khuntry

04-26-2010, 10:38 AM

I'd say makoto is not begginer friendly character. You really need to actually learn her. She was pure rush down in 3rd strike and she still maintains that playstyle in ssf4 (she's not as nasty as she was in 3rd strike.) I dont think her dash punch goes through projectiles prolly on startup but not in her active frames. don know about ex tho.

Khuntry

04-26-2010, 01:54 PM

Blitz

04-27-2010, 12:55 AM

Definitely gonna try and learn Guy, besides the fact that I loved him in Alpha, really liked what Daigo was doing with him in that match a couple pages back. May give Makoto a shot too, but I think she's out of my league.

Been playing a lot of 4 online the last few days trying to shake some rust, and I was reminded how much I detest the people playing player matches with a dialed in character. Why not play ranked with your mastered Rufus, instead of player so you can "lol pwn n00bs!"

Funky Fly

04-27-2010, 01:06 AM

Dunno, been playing this a little bit in the last couple of months and have made some definite improvements and even got better with a few of my non-regulars, but I will definitely need that couple of months of prep time to get back to fighting shape.

.44 Magdalene

04-27-2010, 01:18 AM

Update, having quite a bit more luck with Dudley. Started playing Guile again, but damn it Daigo now everybody's playing Guile online and Guile vs Guile is boring as hell.

Also bought a new controller.

Funky Fly

04-27-2010, 01:33 AM

Fuck. Hope this doesn't get sold out before I'm done work tomorrow.

Blitz

04-27-2010, 01:41 AM

Might need to pick up a new controller as well. Are there any decent third party 360 controls out there? Specifically one with a nice d-pad?

Kalyx triaD

04-27-2010, 02:07 AM

No.