Street Ultra Fighter IV Announced - Super Aggrivated Emo

[Fignuts]

Unfortunate that I don't have my ps3 copy here. That sakura record would be toast.

Very good matches with kalyx this evening. Some really close matches.

[Kalyx triaD]

Today, I invented the term "SakuRape", and administered it to a friend of Fignuts. In other news, me and Fignuts evened out our Sak vs Juri, with me finally answering defeats from weeks ago. Pretty sure the tally's in my court now.

EX Senpuu for the win.

Fignuts plays with Gouken now. Should have pulled out my experimental Makoto. She's in the oven.

[Kalyx triaD]

Gonna see if I can get my bud to record the best match and put it on JewTube.

[Fignuts]

The score is tied between sak and juri. A win for both of us tonight.

But considering I went 2-1 against sakura overall, I wouldn't be talking about "sakuraping" me. Buddy.

[Fignuts]

Gonna see if I can get my bud to record the best match and put it on JewTube.

The first Juri vs Sakura match, and the Cammy vs Chun-li match were easily the best matches. Try and get those two up.

[Kalyx triaD]

Didn't say I SakuRaped you but that's comin.

I don't know if he'll upload two matches but I'll ask.

[Fignuts]

Why is is so hard to upload two?

[Kalyx triaD]

I just didn't wanna 'over step my boundaries'. He's the one who records, edits, uploads, and all that. BUT I'LL ASK

[Kalyx triaD]

Huge fighting game release this week but that SSF4 still has some upcoming content in the future. Somebody did some tutorial vids on the the brothers:

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[Drakul]

According to Kotaku, Ono has said AE will never go to consoles.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

According to Kotaku, Ono has said AE will never go to consoles.

Sure.

Just like movies are "Only in theaters"

[Kalyx triaD]

Pfft.

I mean seriously we seen the achievement icons half a year ago.

[Funky Fly]

Yup

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-7645-No-Super-Street-Fighter-IV-Arcade-Edition-Planned-for-Consoles.html

[D Mac]

Gonna give this game another chance. On PS3.

[Kalyx triaD]

Why'd you stop the first time?

[Funky Fly]

Couldn't beat Seth on very easy iirc. What I've noticed is that a lot of people who I play with irl and are run of the mill can't beat the computer for shit. However, they can hold their own against real people.

[Fignuts]

hmmm I would consider myself run of the mill, but I can beat seth on very hard.

[Funky Fly]

hmmm I would consider myself run of the mill, but I can beat seth on very hard.

irl run of the mill, not online run of the mill. I mean people who know all of the moves and have a basic understanding of the gameplay, but not really up on all the advanced stuff.

[Blitz]

I forsee a broken PS3 controller in Diesel Mac's future if he goes online.

[Kalyx triaD]

Solid Makoto, Ibuki, and Yun play at a recent Japanese tourny final (SSF4 AE):

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Look upon Yun's EX dash punch into Ultra with despair. It's pretty much free.

[Fignuts]

Gotsta learn some of those makoto combos.

[Kalyx triaD]

They would only work in AE. She got a big boost for AE and people lover her now.

[D Mac]

Got this in the mail, popped it in, chose Ken on easy, kicked ass until Rufis. Lost like 6 in a row, almost threw controller again, calmed down, stopped using only the heavy punch and heavy kick buttons, mixed it up a little, finally beat Rufis, then beat Seth the very first time. Much better.

[Fignuts]

Go to trial mode first and learn some combos, ffs.

[Kalyx triaD]

Street Fighter II launched 20 years ago this month.

[Funky Fly]

Got this in the mail, popped it in, chose Ken on easy, kicked ass until Rufis. Lost like 6 in a row, almost threw controller again, calmed down, stopped using only the heavy punch and heavy kick buttons, mixed it up a little, finally beat Rufis, then beat Seth the very first time. Much better.

Go to trial mode first and learn some combos, ffs.

No doubt. And now we can't even show him stuff to help him get better because he's got it for PS3.

[D Mac]

I know plenty of combos! Mash button AAAAAAAAAAAAAA. :shifty:

[Funky Fly]

Seriously, I spent 1 month training a friend of mine from scrub to talented scrub. He's still scrubtacular as far as learning and getting around patterns, but holy shit his pokes are incredible sometimes.

[Kalyx triaD]

"talented scrub"

That's a new one. Is that like upper casual?

[Funky Fly]

lol dunno how else to put it. He's incredible at poking you at the weirdest times, but for most of a match I can literally tell him what I'm going to do before I connect with it and win. He's better than me at mvc3. He's also generally a spastic when it comes to videogames that aren't FPS tho.

[D Mac]

Beat Seth the first time with Ryu on Medium! Awesome fight. It was down to the last round, both of us were almost dead. I avoided his Ultra Combo and finished him with a Shoyuken.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Fignuts]

Who the fuck is hoimei?

[Kalyx triaD]

She's been around since 3s actually. Bossy bitch.

[Boomer]

Watching the Spooky stream, just watched some 13 year old absolutely destroy as Fei. Team was down 2-0, ended up beating the rest of the team himself. His timing was flawless; wish I had a video to show.

[Kalyx triaD]

Evil Ryu Re-Introduce:

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/03/24_eryu07.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/03/24_eryu01.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/03/24_eryu04.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/03/24_eryu06.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/04/06_evilryuraging.jpg

[Drakul]

Evil Ryu has an alternate costume:
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/03/25_ryualt.jpg

[alvarado52]

i wonder if Evil Ryu's jaw hurts from holding that look on his mouth

[Kalyx triaD]

Won't be his jaw hurting after the fact.

Tempted to make him my new shoto, replacing Ken.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

21 straight online wins and counting (3DS) :cool:

[Drakul]

...And Arcade Edition is a disc. The BBFC confirmed it (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/ClassifiedWorks/F4058F2F4C95E47C80257861003B89B8).

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Fuck Capcom.

Seriously, I wouldn't care if it was on a disc and on disc for £10, but it won't be, and the low SSF4 price won't cut it here.

Wish I hadn't have gotten the handheld one now, unless that has an update since it was so fucking recent.

[Drakul]

Fuck Capcom.

Seriously, I wouldn't care if it was on a disc and on disc for £10, but it won't be, and the low SSF4 price won't cut it here.

Wish I hadn't have gotten the handheld one now, unless that has an update since it was so fucking recent.

Ono had said we'd find out about AE after SSFIV3D went on sale. This'll be why.

4 characters and new cutscenes hardly seem worth a whole new disc. Unless they add more characters, stages and modes, they'll have a hard time justifying it.

[Kalyx triaD]

More likely we're getting six characters (new models, VO, music, endings), a rebalanced system, and who knows what else. I had a nagging thought that this would be the case since I had trouble excepting Capcom actually stuffing all of that as DLC. I'm fine with this; once upon a time I purchased three versions of SF2 full priced. It's almost refreshing to see Capcom kick it oldschool in this manner. It won't be full priced if SSF4 is any indication.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

If they weren't lying shits about Super being the last version on disc, I'd be fine.

Lying bastards.

[Kalyx triaD]

Meh.

[Funky Fly]

They'll have to do better than 4 characters (2 of which are unbalanced shotos) and balance tweaks. Not impressed rn.

[Kalyx triaD]

From what I seen E.Ryu and Oni Akuma are fairly balanced (well E.Ryu, anyway).

I would really like to see if Karin made the cut. Yun and Yang don't do it for me, E.Ryu interests me some, but Oni Akuma seems strange. There's a lot of talk of Hugo making the cut. My only hope is Karin as far as new characters go.

Gonna assume they will add a search feature to replay, and bring back a proper gallery mode. Lobbies, Team Lobbies, Tournament (possibly tweaked to HDR version) will likely return. SSF4 has a very good online suite that shouldn't be messed with too much outside of tweaks to existing features.

[Drakul]

Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6306214.html) say the game will be release 24th of June.

[The Mask]

just bought this (super). suck balls at it, so bad.

[Kalyx triaD]

Keep practicing.

[Super V]

Well looks like those dlc promises were just to guarantee strong sales and one up blazblue (who delivered on their [albeit pricey] dlc)

[Kalyx triaD]

They never promised AE DLC. Super 4 sold on the strength of it being a great game.

[Khuntry]

A really good interview with Ono (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/296698/interviews/street-fighter-iv-3ds-no-one-has-taken-the-genre-to-where-i-want/).

[Kalyx triaD]

Ono can be a troll but he's a good guy with good ideas toward game design.

[Kalyx triaD]

o snip

[Kalyx triaD]

Video pulled. Notes:

- Will be DLC.
- Reiterates Yun, Yang, E.Ryu, and Oni as new characters.
- Players who do not purchase AE can still play against those who do. This means the balance update may be free but characters and replay enhancements will not.
- Either way expect a major mandatory download.
- Can "choose" which version (SSF4 or AE) to play - so there may be an option to downgrade from main menu.
- Replay options pretty much address everything.
- - Search function.
- - Follow function, like a video twitter you automatically download a player's newest replay.
- - File sharing, send replays to friends.
- - Elite Channel, view replays of anyone above 3000pp.

Not dated, but I'm thinking mid-Summer.

[Drakul]

It looks more and more likely those 4 are the only new characters. Wish there was at least one character to suit my tastes.
I like the sound of enhancements to the replay channel.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Funky Fly]

Video pulled. Notes:

- Will be DLC.
- Reiterates Yun, Yang, E.Ryu, and Oni as new characters.
- Players who do not purchase AE can still play against those who do. This means the balance update may be free but characters and replay enhancements will not.
- Either way expect a major mandatory download.
- Can "choose" which version (SSF4 or AE) to play - so there may be an option to downgrade from main menu.
- Replay options pretty much address everything.
- - Search function.
- - Follow function, like a video twitter you automatically download a player's newest replay.
- - File sharing, send replays to friends.
- - Elite Channel, view replays of anyone above 3000pp.

Not dated, but I'm thinking mid-Summer.

DLC is good. Fuck a new disc.

[Blitz]

I'd buy a new disc if they added a few more characters.

GOnna be so many Yuns online when this is out. I'm going for Yang.

[Kalyx triaD]

I foresee Yun getting nerfed when this goes global. No way they're letting him slide.

[Kalyx triaD]

Oni Akuma Re-Introduce:

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/04/07_oniartwork.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/04/07_oni09.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/04/07_oni11.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/04/07_oni13.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/04/07_oni08.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Funky Fly]

damn

[Kalyx triaD]

They're pretty crazy. Khuntry's totally winning TPWW SF Tourny 3.

[Drakul]

Anyone that wants to see the trailer again:
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[Funky Fly]

Nice of consoletech.net to put their logo over top of the text explaining all the features.

[Kalyx triaD]

Same vid, no water marks. And some gameplay (presumably console):

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15$ DLC and a disc release. This is the final iteration of Street Fighter 4 before Capcom moves on. Thanks, Capcom!

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/04/12_ssf4ae01.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

3DS will get AE eventually.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Unlike the original Super, it's coming to PC. Probably grab that version on Steam.

Makes sense, since the arcade just runs Windows.

[Drakul]

Now, will this be like GTA DLC and the DLC disc where you can only play online with people that have the same format as you or will a AE disc player be able to play with an AE DLC user?

[Kalyx triaD]

Everybody will be able to play together - the AE rebalance is free. What the buyers get are new replay features and the four new characters. Whether you have DLC or disc you can play against people with the update.

[Fignuts]

Fucking fuck, I was really hoping for a few new characters. Variations on ryu and akuma, and yun and yang (who are pretty similar themselves) Does not make me all that excited.

I'm actually anticipating the improvements to Makoto, more than the new characters. And I doubt that they are hiding any characters, because if there were any more characters, they would advertise them, not keep it a secret.

[Fignuts]

God damn it, I want Alex and Karin.

[Kalyx triaD]

No, just Karin.

[Fignuts]

Shut up, Alex is the man you wanker.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm sorry.

[Fignuts]

Been watching videos of Makoto and she's fucking brutal. Her lifebar is also up to 1000 now, so it's in line with the average character, and her output has been beefed up too. I've been able to get wins here and there, the way she is now. Got a feeling Funky and his bro are going to hate me using her come AE's release.

Yun and Yang look like they take a lot of damage, and don't have very high damage output at the same time. Outside of chun-li, I don't really use a lot of characters like that, so I dunno if they'll join any of my regulars.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yun is for cowards.

[Fignuts]

Never liked either of them. Sounds like abel is getting nerfed pretty hard. His second ultra in particular is taking some hits, which in all honesty, is fair, because that was the cheapest ultra in the whole game. Might go back to using his first, as it is fairly easy to combo into.

[Kalyx triaD]

Gonna use E.Ryu because I need a new shoto.

[Fignuts]

E.Ryu just seems like ryu with akuma's teleport. Oni Akuma definitely feels more like a new character, though he does share similarities with Gouken.

[Kalyx triaD]

E.Ryu is a shoto, all shotos are Ryu with a few different moves and properties. I've played Ken for ages, back when he really was a Ryu clone with a head sprite swap. The similarities don't begin to bother me. In fact I'm perfectly okay with SF4's shoto friendly roster. They all play differently enough to allow tactics to form. And E.Ryu has enough differences for me to pick him without thinking, "Oh well I should have been playing Ryu all along."

And thematically speaking, I dig the power trip. Classic Ryu is gay.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, wasn't saying you should pick regular ryu. Just commenting on their similarities. I'll probably use him instead of ryu as well for the same "power trip" reasons. Guy just looks badass.

Are they going to be properly balanced for online play? I remember no one picking Sagat or Seth during Vanilla, cause it was considered a dick move. Hope it is not the same for these guys.

[Fignuts]

Honestly I am happy that AE is the last of the updates for SF 4. This means ideas for SF 5 are probably going to start getting thrown around soon. I expect we won't hear anything til after SFxT's release, but you know it is coming. No way do they not follow up on the success of all this.

[Kalyx triaD]

Actually Yun and Fei are the strongest by most accounts. E.Ryu and Oni haven't been out long enough for a final verdict. Other than that the game is still massively balanced. So I guess Yun and Fei are the new 'dick move' choices.

You can bet SF5 is coming sooner than 8/9 years, but it's behind a long assembly line.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Needs Sean dammit.

I'd actually get over my hate of generic Tekken characters if he was in SFxT.

[Kalyx triaD]

How would Sean do that?

[RoXer]

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Everybody will be able to play together - the AE rebalance is free. What the buyers get are new replay features and the four new characters. Whether you have DLC or disc you can play against people with the update.

It looks like this isn't happening. SSF4 players can play against SSF4:AE purchasers, but only if their lobby is set to Super mode and not AE mode.

http://i.imgur.com/036yh.jpg

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Just read now that the balance changes are free.

I'm confused, just have to wait I guess.

[D Mac]

Mortal Kombat just ripped this shits head off.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Now you're just embarrassing yourself

[D Mac]

Violence and gore rules. :p

[Kalyx triaD]

The rebalance is free so you can choose to boot up AE even if you just have S4, but without the 4 characters. This is how everybody can play together.

The option to downgrade is to appease bitches who didn't expect their favorite character being nerfed (Guile players I can sympathize with... a little).

Since this is the end song of SF4 Capcom can care less, though AE will probably be the tourny standard as penultimate versions of fighting games tend to be. So be a good warrior and go with AE, kids! Jean Kalyx will!

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm glad you found a fighting game you enjoy, D Mac, but you may not find it easy getting us to understand placing MK above any of our favorite fighters.

[Funky Fly]

Mortal Kombat just ripped this shits head off.

Nigga, are you 12?

Anyway, I'm not shitting on Mortal Kombat. The series has a goodish (some parts are fucking stupid) story which is surprisingly well developed for a fighter and has been reasonably fun since it hit the PS2. The problem is that multiplayer is ass because the games are not balanced. Some characters have a beastly set of moves and others are just kinda target practice dummies. I just would like them to focus more on gameplay (like they did this iteration) and less on "look at how much blood shoots out of his nose lol". Potential's always been there, but it's taken too long for the series to come this far.

[Kalyx triaD]

High-level Yang at a recent tourny! Evil Ryu action!

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Definition of a salty player at 9:19 lol

[Fignuts]

Nigga, are you 12?

Anyway, I'm not shitting on Mortal Kombat. The series has a goodish (some parts are fucking stupid) story which is surprisingly well developed for a fighter and has been reasonably fun since it hit the PS2. The problem is that multiplayer is ass because the games are not balanced. Some characters have a beastly set of moves and others are just kinda target practice dummies. I just would like them to focus more on gameplay (like they did this iteration) and less on "look at how much blood shoots out of his nose lol". Potential's always been there, but it's taken too long for the series to come this far.

In all honesty, the new MK comes fairly close. Not close enough where SF isn't still blatantly superior to anyone but someone who sucks terribly at SF, though .

[RoXer]

http://i.imgur.com/QxtFN.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Alpha 2 was awesome.

[Drakul]

AE Japanese boxart:

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/05/13_ae21.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

How many of you are getting a hard copy versus DLC?

[Kalyx triaD]

Hmm... The way players of different versions (Super/AE) are connected is very gracious. There's no reason people can't play together so long as one of them has Super. I assume most will have AE anyway but it's a nice touch.

• There are no balance adjustments over the arcade version — it's just a port of that version.

• Arrange costumes are not included with the game. This is true of both the download and disc versions.

• The costumes that you purchased for the original version of Super Street Fighter IV can be used in Arcade Edition.

• SSF4 and SSF4 Arcade Edition players can play against one-another. However, the gameplay falls back to Super spec in terms of characters, rules and balance [If an AE player plays a Super player].

• For matching, both PS3 and Xbox 360 players will need to download a free Super SFIV Update Kit, which is due for June 7, 2011.

• Rankings will be split into Original and Arcade Edition. Your BP and PP will start off at zero in Arcade Edition.

• Trophies/achievements will carry over from SSF4 into Arcade Edition.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://i51.tinypic.com/2yn125f.jpg

[Fignuts]

Need to get my xbox fixed so I can demolish funky and his bro with Makoto.

Sucks that those 4 are the only new characters. Absolutely no interest in yun, yang, and ryu, and only mild interest in oni. What a letdown.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, hoping for two more.

[Drakul]

I can't see it happening, though.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Pre-ordered on Steam today.

[Emperor Smeat]

For those who wanted the Arcade Edition, some bad news concerning the DRM and trying to play the game when in an offline mode.

The DRM will restrict the amount of stuff in the game by over 50% and can even revert the game into a demo-like mode if you lag/disconnect from the servers and don't reconnect in time.

That means those who live in regions that aren't supported by Games For Windows Live face a "buyer-beware situation," Svensson writes. That's because the limited offline functionality restricts players to 15 of the game's 39 characters, cuts off access to any DLC you've purchased, and forbids saving any progress in challenges or settings in addition to, of course, not allowing online play or access to replay channels.

Capcom's reasoning for the decision is due to hackers messing up the leaderboards from Super Street Fighter IV but the DRM doesn't actually do anything to solve this situation.

Its actually an improvement from their PSN and XBLA DRM that doesn't allow access to any downloadable titles if the network or the console itself is in offline mode (ex. Final Fight Double Impact).

http://kotaku.com/5806134/drm-means-super-street-fighter-iv-arcade-edition-will-have-limited-offline-functionality

[Kalyx triaD]

PC gamers have it rough.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeah, been trying to cancel my pre-order since I read about this yesterday.

Will probably be the last Capcom game I ever buy.

[Kalyx triaD]

You're affected? Where are you from?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It's my flats ISP, it stays connected to XBox/GFWL for a maximum of 3 minutes before disconnecting.

I had a separate line for my 360, but it has my 360's MAC address so only that can use it.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'll tell you all about the game. :(

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I might get around it by signing up for a VPN. Might end up ruining people with lag though.

[Kalyx triaD]

I understand there's some very strong opinions here and around the net.

Let me ask a few questions of the users here and perhaps we can come to a better solution for all folks involved. What I'm proposing is a constructive dialog and I'll take this feedback back to the team.

But first some ground rules for this discussion to be constructive:

Any posts dealing with complaints about GFWL will be summarily ignored and/or deleted depending upon the language used. That is a non-negotiable point at this point in development and it's not constructive to make that an issue. We have used GFWL with no problems on several releases and it works great on SSFIV:AE.

Any posts outright dismissing the need for DRM of some form are also not feasible, especially given the history with SFIV. Sorry, but that's another reality in which we live. Blizzard and Valve both use DRM in their games... and when they do have offline forms, they have reduced functionality/features. This is not new or exclusive in any way to Capcom.

Now, that said, it is in no way our intention to punish legitimate users. That's definitely not the purpose here. It is to attempt to ensure that our content is only enjoyed fully by legitimate users.

Question 1: Without using a secure network authentication mechanism of some kind (SSA, Steam CEG, Impulse GOO, SecuROAM, etc.) how can we validate that a copy is legitimate versus pirated?

Question 2: If it isn't what we've proposed, what form of limitations would be acceptable in the event that there in a "non trusted" mode, assuming that it can be secured?

Question 3: If there were a network validated install and we put in an offline mode that would allow you to have funtionality for some period of time, but require revalidation on a frequent interval, would that be acceptable?

Question 4: There seems to be a lot of supposition that the pirates will instantly crack whatever protections we put in place. One never knows, that could well be true. Personally, I'm not quite as defeatist. One at least has to try. Now, if we promised to "sunset" those protections in the event of a crack being created so that legitimate users don't have a substandard experience to pirates, is that an acceptable solution?

Happy to hear any other proposed solutions that could work and I'll see what we can do with the team.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Where's that posted? I'd love to respond.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/thread/view/7371/27677673/SSF4:AE_PC_ONLINE_QUESTION?pg=11

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Just posted this. Really hope it happens because Steam are being cocks about not cancelling the order.

First off, thanks for listening Sven. It is refreshing to see after the Ubisoft debacle. As for the questions:

1) Secure network authentication I can deal with, just not always-on. I can go play Portal 2 offline with no drawbacks right now for up to 3 months if I chose to do so. This, while still slightly restrictive, is a fair trade-off to me. I can't comment on Blizzard as I'm not a fan of RTS so haven't played a newer game.

2) For me personally, take anything away apart from the full character selection for offline Vs. That part is the dealbreaker

3) My grievances come fromthe fact my ISP doesn't work with GFWL/XBox Live for more than 3 minutes due to traffic shaping. If I could briefly sign in and play with full functionality for a couple of weeks, that would be fine with me

4) That would also be a good form of goodwill to your fans. I admire your optimism, but can you point to a game that hasn't been cracked, even with the always-online DRM? Still, once cracked, the cats out of the bag anyway, so removing the DRM would be great.

[RoXer]

http://i.imgur.com/Y3eQH.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Um...

[G]

that shit's custom son. overnighted from japan

[Kalyx triaD]

For SoulCalibur and SNK fighters?

[Fignuts]

Is that tupperware?

[RoXer]

yes

[Emperor Smeat]

Capcom listened to complaints and fixed their DRM for the PC version of Super Street Fighter IV (with Arcade Edition included).

Before the game would lock out saving and multiplayer modes while restricting the roster to just 50% when played offline. Now Capcom only restricted the saving ability while leaving everything else untouched for offline play.

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/capcom-drm-shacklesthen-promptly-unshackles-super-street-fighter-ivs-pc-release/3298/

[Drakul]

AE is up for download right now at 1200MSP.

[Kalyx triaD]

I have a busted SSF4 disc around here. I'm gonna doctor it and see what I can do.

[Drakul]

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[Drakul]

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[Funky Fly]

Sweet. I'ma go get it now then.

[Kalyx triaD]

Messed with the game. I'm feeling E.Ryu and Yang. Yun can go fuck himself.

[Blitz]

Working with Yang. I like. Oni is going to be a complete bastard in the hands of good players.

[Fignuts]

Damn, won't be able to get this for a while.

[Drakul]

I don't feel a need to get it. Yun, Yang, Evil Ryu and Oni don't really excite me and I know online will consist purely of Oni and Evil Ryu.

I'm not paying £15 for that.

[Fignuts]

There are a lot of changes to the other characters too. Makoto is almost brand new, thank christ.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Just waiting on the PC version to come out :(

[Funky Fly]

Got it last night. Had a fight online against a Yand player while completely trashed. Destryoyed him with T. Hawk then fucked around in practice with Yun. Might definitely pick him up. Gonna fuck around with The other three before my boys get here.

[Blitz]

Spent some serious time with Yang tonight. Palm stuffs a ton and has a far larger hitbox then you'd think, and Tenshin Senkyutai is a godly super. Fantastic for anti air, and even better against fireball spam. Do not try spamming from across the screen with a Ultra gauge'd Yang. You won't like the results.

The bad, he's got piddly damage and seemingly worse defense. I need to work with Seiei Enbu more. But there's definite potential.

[RoXer]

Wasn't going to get this but just picked up 4000 Microsoft points for $35 so I guess I'm getting it now.

[RoXer]

and if you want the site let me know, but there probably won't be any in stock by the time you read this

[Boomer]

Probably going to pick it up, but I want to make hella sure I want to spend fifteen bucks on this shit. Gonna watch a shitload of Peaceful Jay and Spooky streams to prove its worth.

[RoXer]

Its not

I shouldn't have bought it

[Blitz]

The fuck is everyone. I'm back into this.

[Funky Fly]

My life is a great big jumble rn, but when I'm online I'm either playing this or Oblivion.

Weird, was beasting with Yun when I tried him out. Can't do shit now.

[Drakul]

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[Kalyx triaD]

lol

[Drakul]

I want to hear the reaction of someone losing a close ranked match because of that glitch. See how much they "rage" about it.

[Kalyx triaD]

Probably isn't too common. I wouldn't even be mad.

[Drakul]

You know someone would, though.

[Kalyx triaD]

Pfft, people bitch over legit losses. Nothing surprises me.

[Kalyx triaD]

So the developer's stance against balance means all future tournaments are The Adventures of Yun. I wouldn't mind if this came out of nowhere (like Wolverine in MvC3), but they manufactured this. NCR 9 has been blah so far.

[Fignuts]

Will have AE for PS3 come friday, if anyone wants to play.

Had to make a choice between fixing my xbox, and saving money for a roadtrip to martha's vineyard. Road Trip won by a landslide, so I probably won't be on live til september at the earliest.

[Funky Fly]

So the developer's stance against balance means all future tournaments are The Adventures of Yun. I wouldn't mind if this came out of nowhere (like Wolverine in MvC3), but they manufactured this. NCR 9 has been blah so far.
I kinda feel you. Not used to him at all, but I can already feel the beastly potential. I'd kinda enjoy these games a little more if non-SF3 guys had a few target combos of their own.
Will have AE for PS3 come friday, if anyone wants to play.

Had to make a choice between fixing my xbox, and saving money for a roadtrip to martha's vineyard. Road Trip won by a landslide, so I probably won't be on live til september at the earliest.

Go on that road trip def. We can wait till you're back. :wave:

Besides, it give me a chance to shake the rust off before Jeanpunchfest '12 kicks off.

[Blitz]

Yang>Yun.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Managed to finally cancel my Steam pre-order and got the full PC version for only £2 more than the 360 DLC from Amazon.

The games not out for 2 weeks on Steam, but allegedly out Friday on disc.

[Boomer]

If I can get a good deal on MS points I might purchase soon enough, but I still haven't made up my mind. I know I'm buying Trenched this week though.

[Blitz]

Roxer is rusty.

[RoXer]

If I can get a good deal on MS points I might purchase soon enough, but I still haven't made up my mind. I know I'm buying Trenched this week though.

dont get it

[Blitz]

dont get it
What's with your aversion?

[RoXer]

It costs too much, there only 4 characters, 2 of them worth a damn and he hardly plays it anyway

[Boomer]

Seeing Yun and Yang constantly at the tournament level has been a bit discouraging. However, there's a part of me that still wants to be able to play all the new guys. I don't like feeling like my Super copy isn't worth a damn anymore, since anyone who goes over to AE probably isn't going to feel like switching between the two.

[Fignuts]

I just want a good Makoto.

[Funky Fly]

Seeing Yun and Yang constantly at the tournament level has been a bit discouraging. However, there's a part of me that still wants to be able to play all the new guys. I don't like feeling like my Super copy isn't worth a damn anymore, since anyone who goes over to AE probably isn't going to feel like switching between the two.
Yeah, def trying to get used to these new fucks. I've seen the potential from all the new guys except Yang, whom I've yet to put in more than 30 seconds playing with. Gonna get raped if I don't get my game up to snuff just yet.
I just want a good Makoto.

Thought they sped her up and made her more lethal in a few ways, not that you weren't doing that on your own.

[Blitz]

Yeah, def trying to get used to these new fucks. I've seen the potential from all the new guys except Yang, whom I've yet to put in more than 30 seconds playing with.
Insane. He's the best.

[Fignuts]

Thought they sped her up and made her more lethal in a few ways, not that you weren't doing that on your own.

Yeah, I know. That's why I want it.

[Kalyx triaD]

Can you say, "new duds"?:

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/06/23_alt11.jpg

[Fignuts]

Tracksuit Yang is pretty hot. The rest are pretty meh.

[Fignuts]

So are there any guides online to the new characters, and new possibilities with the old ones?

[Kalyx triaD]

Eventhubs.com

[RoXer]

I'll always read it as Even Thumbs

[Kalyx triaD]

Cool.

[Fignuts]

They only cover the new characters really. They don't address any of the new possibilities with the old characters. I did find a couple hot combos with makoto, but they are FADC and the timing is pretty strict. Can't really rely on them atm.

I am getting pretty good at FADCing into Ryu's ultra.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHmcezWS9do&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

[Fignuts]

Nice

[Blitz]

Yang is working pretty damn well for me. Had a few excellent matches today, including one where I just beat the living hell out of a high 300 ranked Sakura.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Amazon got the release date wrong, looks like I'll be waiting another couple of weeks.

[Fignuts]

Honestly, I agree with Roxer that this is mad overpriced. The updates to the existing roster should have been a free patch.

2 new shotos and 2 other characters who have similar styles, plus some new replay options that I couldn't give a fuck about should not equal 15 bucks.

I play this more than any other game, so of course I got it anyway. (I bought it for both ps3 and 360 ffs)

But it would have been nice if they included a couple more characters, or at least some costumes and new stages.

Since this is the last major update we're going to have to wait for street fighter 5 for some new blood. I don't count sf X tekken, since that is going to play quite a bit differently.

[Kalyx triaD]

I think the update and replay enhancements are free. Only the characters were premium. This was reported quite a few times in this thread.

[Fignuts]

That is irrelevant. It's still overpriced.

Alex and Karin should have been in this. Even if they were in the place of the 2 shotos I think the price would have been more reasonable, since they would have brought completely new gameplay.

Oni is different, but he is not Gouken or Sakura different. Still mad shoto.

[Kalyx triaD]

I think it's fair enough. Could have used two more characters, though.

I need E.Ryu, though.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The balance updates were only in the DLC anyway, you can't pick AE balance without buying AE.

[Fignuts]

E. Ryu has a couple cool things going on.

Think he may take more damage than akuma tho. And the teleport sucks.

I think Oni is the more interesting one. So many different ways to hit his fireball ultra too.

[Kalyx triaD]

Should have had Evil Sakura.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Evil Dan. Just snaps and becomes the worst balanced character ever and can destroy everyone. Fuck balance and canon.

[Fignuts]

...

[Kalyx triaD]

Super Saikyo Dan:

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/216/9/3/Supa_Saikyo_by_lastscionz.jpg
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/059/f/9/f923539c0b0d90c7bf10bc4621dbaa8e-d3amcm4.jpg

Concept by lastscionz. This gets enough buzz they may give him the Gouken treatment.

[Fignuts]

They should make a game that is just shotos. That would be great.

[Funky Fly]

Pretty sure that's Alpha 3.

[Fignuts]

Funky, I demand you buy this for ps3. The jeanpuching must continue.

[Fignuts]

So I know that with Evil Ryu you can Shoryu > FADC > Ultra 1.

But can you do jumping m. kick > crouching l. kick > l. tetsu > H. Shoryu > FADC > Ultra 1 ?

I know you can throw in a Shoryu at the end, but is the ultra even possible? Been trying unsuccessfully to land it.

Desperately need a stick, now that I'm getting into FADC more.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah that should work.

[Drakul]

If they ever did Super Saikyo Dan, surely the joke would be that he gets even worse, right?

[Kalyx triaD]

On one hand that could work, as a subversion of the 'ascended form' archetype seen in fighting games and anime. On the other hand he could hilariously over powered, which could also be a parody of sorts.

[Kalyx triaD]

We will be try re-tune like a AE 2K12 ver. I under negotiation with Capcom VIPs now.

And there ya go.

[Super V]

And they're really serious this time, that will be the last update for SF4.

[Kalyx triaD]

This will probably the last 'title' but there be updates surely.

[Fignuts]

Oh ffs, It's Street Fighter II all over again.

[Fignuts]

Was thinking though, everyone including myself is clamoring for more characters like Alex and R. Mika, but I also think it would be cool to see a Darkstalker as a guest character.

[Blitz]

Dunno why everyone gets out of sorts about updates. As long as there's new content, who gives a fuck.

[Fignuts]

Well it's time that could be spent on an actual sequel.

That said, it doesn't bother me that much, as something is better than nothing. It's just comical how it is paralleling SF2 already.

[Kalyx triaD]

Seems like the natural order of things. I wouldn't wanna see SF5 so soon anyway.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Fignuts]

Just placed my order for a TE stick.

wooooooooooooooooooooooo

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Sweet, SF:AE is in the top 20 Steam sellers even with the sale on right now.

[Kalyx triaD]

First battle damage in a SF game:

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/07/05_onicostume.jpg

Anybody notice this?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/hollywoodh/AE-1.png

[Kalyx triaD]

Good for you.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'm just glad I have the game at all. Been over a year since I've played the non-3DS version online :'(

[Funky Fly]

With you being indefinitely out of the 360 game, I fear we will never have our rematch. :'(

[Kalyx triaD]

He's dodging you.

[Funky Fly]

It was quite the thrashing I gave him, let me tell you.

[Blitz]

With you being indefinitely out of the 360 game, I fear we will never have our rematch. :'(
We need to have a rematch, fucker.

[Funky Fly]

You'd stomp me now. I've not been playing due to a crippling Oblivion addiction coupled with a debilitating partying addiction.

[Blitz]

I seem to recall I stomped you before :rant: BURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[#BROKEN Hasney]

With you being indefinitely out of the 360 game, I fear we will never have our rematch. :'(

It fucking sucks, there should be no excuse considering it uses Live on the PC as well.

Ah well, there seems to be no average players on the PC. They either completely suck and are probably using keyboards or they're the best players I've ever played against compared to the 360 version who may have waited to get the best version of the game. There just seems to be no inbetween.

[Funky Fly]

I seem to recall I stomped you before :rant: BURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Last time we played I think it was you, me, Khuntry, Manny and for a little while Kalyx. That was like in winter or something. Also yeah, recall you going on a tear for a bit till Khuntry pulled out some crazy shit.
It fucking sucks, there should be no excuse considering it uses Live on the PC as well.

Ah well, there seems to be no average players on the PC. They either completely suck and are probably using keyboards or they're the best players I've ever played against compared to the 360 version who may have waited to get the best version of the game. There just seems to be no inbetween.

Your online record might blow, but you should get better playing all those skilled players at the very least. Def need to get on some cross platform online though for 360 and PC users. We're basically using specialized PCs to do all this.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Your online record might blow, but you should get better playing all those skilled players at the very least. Def need to get on some cross platform online though for 360 and PC users. We're basically using specialized PCs to do all this.

It's running at about 64%, mainly because Europe got the game officially today and now it feels more like jumping online on 360 with a middle ground of players on top of the low and high guys.

Figured out why there was such a split for me though, it matches people based on your PC performance so I was getting all these A ranked specs, people who have poured some cash into a decent PC so either people who have PC as the primary gaming machine and haven't touched SF4 since vanilla (if at all) and then these guys who clearly have consoles too and have just been waiting for this version.

[Fignuts]

My fightstick arrived, and I'm starting to get used to it. Already pulling off Ryu's Shoryuken>FADC>Ultra1 with greater ease.

And holy shit does a stick ever make grapplers easier to use. DEFINITELY adding zangief to my rotation.

[Drakul]

Does it really make grapplers easier to use? I might have to look into that.

I already got into the top 30 Zangiefs and managed to get a 20+ win streak online against you guys. I wonder if a stick would improve me. I've not played SSFIV since MvC3 came out, though.

Sticks look really awkward for fighting games to me and I've not used one since I was in an arcade when I was about 10, playing Sunset Riders.

[Fignuts]

They definitely feel awkward at first, as you have to relearn muscle memory, but they are worth it in the long run. Especially for a serious player.

I've been playing around with it for a couple days now, and I'm starting to get the hang of it. Been pulling off stuff with ease that I had lots of trouble with on the controller. Fuck's sake, I went from not even being able to use zangief at all, to being able to hit his ultra on block in a fucking day.

In my opinion, a stick is a must for any serious grappler user.

[Kalyx triaD]

At a EVO 2011 panel, Capcom's Yoshinori Ono announced that they've begun working on balance changes for Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition.

Capcom USA signed off on the patch and they will be testing balance changes it select locations in arcades in the future.

This will not cost any money, it'll be a free download, when it's released on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Ono wants to take his time balancing this, and according to Seth Killian it will be available in the fall or winter time.

'2k12 Update' will be free, perhaps as an apology. And there ya go.

[Drakul]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Arcade Edition might be arriving on the 3DS as well although although Capcom is currently unsure which fighting game they should bring next to the 3DS.

At the company, we're debating should we go for an AE port on 3DS? Should we skip that and go straight to Street Fighter x Tekken? There are a lot of things up in the air, so I can't say for sure what our next 3DS project will be."

Ono said regardless of the decision, they still have more content planned for SSFIV 3D and wants to listen to requests from the fans on what they should bring next in terms of potential DLC.

I'd assume this means if Arcade Edition doesn't arrive, then the DLC could be those extra characters and a balance patch.

http://screwattack.com/blogs/ScrewAttack-News/More-Street-Fighter-Coming-to-the-3DS

[Kane Knight]

'2k12 Update' will be free, perhaps as an apology. And there ya go.

A few days ago, when this was rumoured to be an expansion, there was much RAAAAAEG in the online community. Glad that's sorted.

Also, good on Capcom for fixing shit.

...Actually, it's kind of sad that we've gone from "we'll patch it after release" to "good to them for fixing the shit they should have caught in QC," but still...

[RoXer]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Quick interview from part of a larger interview at EVO with Ono from Capcom with the main stuff being the future of the series is going to be a yearly thing and potential spin-offs or games made for specific audiences are being considered (ex. game for casual fighters, game for tournament people, etc).

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[Funky Fly]

Oh crap. Street Fighter: Modern Warfare 5. :'(

[Blitz]

My Guy has become a fine instrument of war.

[Funky Fly]

Unlocked that Ninja Pro perk early, eh?

[Kalyx triaD]

2012 update drops Dec. 13th. They released the complete changelog but loooooong story short the games sounds better balanced.

[Captain of Fun]

• EX Dive Kick (EX Shikusen) - Enabled change of trajectory with special kick button combinations (light + medium, medium + hard, or light + hard), but only during a Feng Shui Engine.

Got really excited before I read the last bit.

[Captain of Fun]

Makoto

• Health reduced from 1000 to 950


what the fucking fuck

[Kalyx triaD]

Makoto's a fucking tank. She deserved that.

[Captain of Fun]

No she didn't, 1,000 is the average health level, same as Ryu, and she's much more difficult to use.

[Kalyx triaD]

I still don't know how to handle a good Makoto. Or Abel.

[Funky Fly]

Good lord, Cap, remember that one Makoto that randomly joined our endless battle and proceeded to wreck our shit over and over?

[Blitz]

It's good Vegas and Blankas for me. Any charge characters really, but those ones the most. Give me the shivers.

[Boomer]

I'm really hoping for a small price drop at some point for me to jump on. I really don't need to be spending a ton of money right now, and I'm definitely getting NFL Blitz, so I'm torn, because the update sounds worthwhile.

[Kalyx triaD]

I got SSFAE for 20$.

[Boomer]

I want to buy the add-on for 10. SSFIV will suffice for me otherwise. Being unemployed for 6 months isn't helping right now.

[Drakul]

Alpha testing version of SFIV.

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/12/1_alpha01.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/12/1_alpha02.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/12/1_alpha06.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/12/1_alpha09.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/12/1_alpha16.jpg

I like the health bars in the second and last screenshots. Pity they never included that army base level in the final game.

More here (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/dec/01/alpha-version-screen-shots-street-fighter-iv/).

[Kalyx triaD]

And they all look better than SFEX.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Blitz]

Full list of changes for the 2012 patch. (http://static.capcom.com/streetfighter/downloads/SSFIV%20Arcade%20Edition%202012%20Final%20Change%20List%20-%20US.pdf)

Guy sounds more beastly. People need to pick this back up.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I want to at some point, but I've got Arkham City, Skyrim, Saints Row 3, WWE 12 and when it finally downloads on Steam, MW3 and Brink to play. It has been a fucking insane end of year.

[Kalyx triaD]

v2012 is out. Mostly buffs for all the characters, and some nerfs where warranted. Theoretically should be returned Super SSF4's balance before the AE garbage. Should have us some lobbies.

[Drakul]

Ranked is pretty much deserted for SSFIV. Guessing I need AE to get more than 3 different people. Not that I'll get it any time soon.