NBA 2008-2009 Season Thread

[Kris P Lettus]

Cavs over Nugs in the finals..

Mad dissapointed in the Celts..

[SammyG]

CEEEELLTSS SHOWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!

MAD EXCITED Boston is eliminated. Fucking awesome. Sucks that they didn't have KG but OH WELL we didn't have Bynum last year either.

Also, I love the Magic. Gonna be hard to hate them if they make the finals.

[Kris P Lettus]

LMFAO @ you comparing KG to Bynum

[SammyG]

Playing Denver with only 1 day rest is gonna suck... still should pull it off at home though.

[IC Champion]

I'd rather be the team with one day rest than the team with a week off, throws you off a bit not playing for a week.

[VonErichLives]

Dunno, some teams do well with rest, some don't...

ESPN show'd James at practice... fucking guy hit a shot from the stands, behind the hoop, past 3pt range. Was a sick shot... don't see it being to helpful in a game but was fun to watch.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Pretty glad the Celtics are out...nothing against them personally, I just genuinely dislike repeat titles except for my own team, and moreover I can't stand Marbury.

Should be some good series' coming up.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

Celtics played like shit..

Oh well, that just means Peanuts gonna get a ring..

:love:

[Big Fat Mike]

Wonder who Dwight Howard is going to elbow in the face next.

[Kris P Lettus]

Big Ben Wallace will punch him in his yambag..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

and yeah, Pierce pisses me off more every game... yes, plenty of Celtics didn't show up, but how the fuck the god damn captin can't hit fucking free throws is beyond me... I swear he's such a selfish player it's not funny... and after the speach he gave opening night and the way he's played this season... hope he finishes his career elsewhere.
lol Are you serious? Yeah his game can get annoying when shots aren't falling but when he's on he's on. His game looks mad ugly either way but wishing him to go to another team is borderline retarded, without him the Celtics wouldn't have won shit last year. As far as this series goes I'm more disappointed with Ray Allen considering he couldn't do dick for the majority of the series with J.J. Redick guarding him

The Celtics where 1 game (granted it was a 20pt game) away from the Eastern Conference finals this year, so that's pretty legit seeing how KG was out and Scals was logging major minutes. Scals was a healthy scratch for every playoff game last season (pretty sure he only even suited up for 2 of them when Tony Allen hurt his thumb) so that is pretty ridiculous he was one of the main scoring options off the bench. Only problem is none of the Big 3 are getting any younger so the window of opportunity is getting smaller and smaller for another championship. I wouldn't be surprised to see Davis go to another team, he is going to want to be a starter I bet. I'd like to see Marbury back, Mikki Moore can bounce tho. I'd wish the same on Tony Allen but they just signed him to a deal last summer for some reason.

Random thought but I'd like to see Marcin Gortat from the Magic get more minutes, I know it's hard with Howard but in his limited role he always seems to be doing work. Plus every time Howard missed a game during the season/playoff it seemed like he logged a double/double.

[SammyG]

Gonna say Cleveland in 6
and Lakers in 6

[DaveWadding]

Lakers frontcourt gonna get massacred by Denver's.

[Jeritron]

I can't believe you tried to compare Bynum's absence to losing KG.

Try Leon Powe

[SammyG]

Does Denver really have THAT much of an advantage? Odom Gasol and Bynum gonna get dominated by Nene, K-mart and Birdman? Come on.

Also, who on that team can guard Kobe? Dahntay Jones or whatever? Come on.

[Jeritron]

Paul Pierce can guard Kobe

[SammyG]

too bad paul pierce is out fishing now, huh.

[DaveWadding]

Does Denver really have THAT much of an advantage? Odom Gasol and Bynum gonna get dominated by Nene, K-mart and Birdman? Come on.

Also, who on that team can guard Kobe? Dahntay Jones or whatever? Come on.

Yes, they do, because the Nuggs 3 guys are fierce. The Lakers frontcourt is softer than a pillow.

Doesn't matter who guards Kobe... as long as the Nuggs keep on the other 4 guys, Kobe could average 80 a game and it wouldnt matter.

[IC Champion]

Im sorry but if Kobe even averages 40 a game, Lakers are winning.

[Juan]

I can't believe you tried to compare Bynum's absence to losing KG.

Try Leon Powe

I think it's more of how their absence affected their teams, more than comparing them as players. Not a chance the Lakers would have gotten embarrassed like they did had Bynum been in the line up. Not saying they would have won, because no one knows, but it would have been a better series for the Lakers.

[Juan]

Yes, they do, because the Nuggs 3 guys are fierce. The Lakers frontcourt is softer than a pillow.

Doesn't matter who guards Kobe... as long as the Nuggs keep on the other 4 guys, Kobe could average 80 a game and it wouldnt matter.

Denver wont stop Kobe, and if at least one of our bigs (Bynum, Gasol, Odom) plays well, the Lakers will win. There's no way Denver will stop all three of them.

[VonErichLives]

lol Are you serious? Yeah his game can get annoying when shots aren't falling but when he's on he's on. His game looks mad ugly either way but wishing him to go to another team is borderline retarded, without him the Celtics wouldn't have won shit last year. As far as this series goes I'm more disappointed with Ray Allen considering he couldn't do dick for the majority of the series with J.J. Redick guarding him

The Celtics where 1 game (granted it was a 20pt game) away from the Eastern Conference finals this year, so that's pretty legit seeing how KG was out and Scals was logging major minutes. Scals was a healthy scratch for every playoff game last season (pretty sure he only even suited up for 2 of them when Tony Allen hurt his thumb) so that is pretty ridiculous he was one of the main scoring options off the bench. Only problem is none of the Big 3 are getting any younger so the window of opportunity is getting smaller and smaller for another championship. I wouldn't be surprised to see Davis go to another team, he is going to want to be a starter I bet. I'd like to see Marbury back, Mikki Moore can bounce tho. I'd wish the same on Tony Allen but they just signed him to a deal last summer for some reason.

Random thought but I'd like to see Marcin Gortat from the Magic get more minutes, I know it's hard with Howard but in his limited role he always seems to be doing work. Plus every time Howard missed a game during the season/playoff it seemed like he logged a double/double.

when he's on, he's on... not to be confused with a player when he's on, he's off.... :roll:

He's a selfish player, he gave a speech opening night about he didn't event want to be a Celtics... but "since they made a trade and got KG and Allen"...

Yeah, the team did good considering all, and that's not my issue... just sick of Pierce and his crap and spending 1/2 his press conference talking about "injuries"... he never takes blame himself..

just mad annoying, doesn't mean i'd cut him, or trade him for nothing... but equal value... yeah, I do it..

He's not an MVP, he's not a team leader.

As for Davis... I think a lot of it will have to do with money, and with Ray, Paul and KG not getting any younger I could see him staying here.

I worry though with his age and weight issue, if he gets a big deal, he's not going to keep his weight down.

[Juan]

*sig*

[McLegend]

The Sixers are going to be interviewing Tom Thibodeau.

He should be the new coach.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

when he's on, he's on... not to be confused with a player when he's on, he's off.... :roll:

He's a selfish player, he gave a speech opening night about he didn't event want to be a Celtics... but "since they made a trade and got KG and Allen"...

Yeah, the team did good considering all, and that's not my issue... just sick of Pierce and his crap and spending 1/2 his press conference talking about "injuries"... he never takes blame himself..

just mad annoying, doesn't mean i'd cut him, or trade him for nothing... but equal value... yeah, I do it..

He's not an MVP, he's not a team leader.

As for Davis... I think a lot of it will have to do with money, and with Ray, Paul and KG not getting any younger I could see him staying here.

I worry though with his age and weight issue, if he gets a big deal, he's not going to keep his weight down.I was trying to say that his game looks mad ugly either way, its just that when he has a bad shooting night it looks so terrible because he puts shots that look awful, he isn't a "pretty" shooter like a Ray Allen. People just don't notice seem notice how awful the shots look when he is hitting them, which happens a lot. I haven't heard all of his speech from before the 1st game and I don't really care about it anyway. I did notice people calling into WEEI and bringing it when flicking through the stations so I'm not surprised you brought it up. All I know his with him the Celtics wouldn't won have the NBA Championship and he was the MVP of that series, not to mention he's a consensus All Star. If he brought up injuries a bunch of times I guess I haven't seen it, I only saw one quote where he mentioned how this year was still pretty successful considering all the injuries they had, which I would agree with. I don't really see that as making an excuse but maybe that's just my opinion. As for him being a leader I don't really know, I'm not in the locker room or anything but I would have to think he is after hearing the way guys talk about him in the media.

Just a quick question, do you think it was selfish of him to ask if he could guard Kobe in the NBA Finals last year when he wasn't initially?

And for the Lakers/Nuggets series everyone is asking "Who is gonna guard who?" but each team presenting some really interesting match ups going both ways. I think it will be a good series.

[McLegend]

The Fuckin Clippers get the 1st pick... That's terrible.

Blake Griffin's career is over.

[DaveWadding]

#14...

Earl Clark or Eric Maynor....c'mon.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol Clippers

[IC Champion]

LAKE SHOW!!!

[Juan]

What a hard fought victory. I love it

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Pretty much what I expected, hopefully JR Smith's injury isn't serious. That would suck, even though he didn't play all that well tonight he's an exciting player to watch and huge off the bench for Denver obviously.

[SammyG]

What a fucking game. Almost had a heart attack. We showed heart when it mattered. GOOD JOB LAKE SHOW.

[SammyG]

I underestimated Denver by the way. They showed so much resiliency and heart. They fight for every board. I respect that. Not so much JR Smith and Kenyon and Birdman, but yeah. Big ups to them. Still though, go Lakers, obviously.

[Skippord]

if only the Nuggets could make some fucking free throws

[McLegend]

And not have a 6'2 player trying to inbound over a 6'10 player.

[SammyG]

Excellent read by Ariza.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

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[SammyG]

ROFL @ staples center offering to host Raw

[SammyG]

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[VonErichLives]

I was trying to say that his game looks mad ugly either way, its just that when he has a bad shooting night it looks so terrible because he puts shots that look awful, he isn't a "pretty" shooter like a Ray Allen. People just don't notice seem notice how awful the shots look when he is hitting them, which happens a lot. I haven't heard all of his speech from before the 1st game and I don't really care about it anyway. I did notice people calling into WEEI and bringing it when flicking through the stations so I'm not surprised you brought it up. All I know his with him the Celtics wouldn't won have the NBA Championship and he was the MVP of that series, not to mention he's a consensus All Star. If he brought up injuries a bunch of times I guess I haven't seen it, I only saw one quote where he mentioned how this year was still pretty successful considering all the injuries they had, which I would agree with. I don't really see that as making an excuse but maybe that's just my opinion. As for him being a leader I don't really know, I'm not in the locker room or anything but I would have to think he is after hearing the way guys talk about him in the media.

Just a quick question, do you think it was selfish of him to ask if he could guard Kobe in the NBA Finals last year when he wasn't initially?

And for the Lakers/Nuggets series everyone is asking "Who is gonna guard who?" but each team presenting some really interesting match ups going both ways. I think it will be a good series.

A Captain should ask for that, but they should also understand when they need to pass and make others better.

You're right, he is always an ugly shooter.

Also, the point about they wouldn't win last year without him is moot because they wouldn't have won without Allen and/or KG...

I'm not saying he's a horrible player, I've just been sick of his attitude for a long time... and this year it just seemed to stick out more.

[IC Champion]

I've always had a dislike for Paul Pierce.

[SammyG]

OMG TEH CAVZ IZ TEH BEST AND GONNA BEAT TEH LAKERS IN THE FINAS LEBRAWN IS UNSTOPPABLE

Shut the fuck up now, all Cleveland dick suckers. I knew they were gonna struggle some when they faced some REAL competition.

[IC Champion]

Calm down sammy. It was just a loss, and they lost to a really good team. Should be a good series.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

OMG TEH CAVZ IZ TEH BEST AND GONNA BEAT TEH LAKERS IN THE FINAS LEBRAWN IS UNSTOPPABLE

Shut the fuck up now, all Cleveland dick suckers. I knew they were gonna struggle some when they faced some REAL competition.
lol are you kidding me?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Pretty sure the Lakers lost game one at home to the Rockets, Sammy. Calm down.

[SammyG]

Cleveland in 7.

[Juan]

:(

[FearedSanctity]

Yay

[DaveWadding]

LA LA LA LA

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKEEEEEEEEEE SHOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[SammyG]

lol @ Wadding being so pathetic that he talks shit when his team didn't even make the playoffs.

Oh well, we'll get one in Denver. Horrible officiating tonight though.

[SammyG]

I hate Fisher and Phil btw.

[Loose Cannon]

why?

[IC Champion]

Fisher is old and human pylon now, but Phil Jackson? Are you simple? You wouldn't be where you are without Phil.

[Kris P Lettus]

Sammy G you are being so ridiculous since the playoffs started it's not even funny..

Actually, it kind of is..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I find it hilarious

[Kris P Lettus]

LOL @ Peanut throwing the ball at Dwight after he got slapped in the back of the head..

[SammyG]

Because Phil is the one giving Fish that many minutes, and not playing Farmar/Brown enough, when they do a pretty good job on Billups. Also, not playing Bynum in the 4th AT ALL?! Giving him 18 mins? really? Leaving Ariza outta the 4th for like 6-7 minutes? HORRIBLE coaching. Also WHY THE FUCK play Vujacic at ALL when he is playing insanely selfish?

There are tons of Laker fans out there very pissed with Phil, and a bunch of ESPN writers have also written articles about this. It's very frustrating. The ZenMaster is beggining to lose it unfortnunately. He's becoming senile.

[Kris P Lettus]

OMf'nG

That was awesome...

[Triple Naitch]

I don't wanna sound like Smokey, but LeBron is dat nigga yo.

[Kris P Lettus]

That was sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet pune right there..

I hella marked out..

[RP]

o m g

[RP]

Lebron is stupid good.

[Smokey]

that's my nigga right there yo

Cavs goin to the championship rite now boo

[DaveWadding]

LeBron > Kobe

holy shit.

[SammyG]

lol Bron wow

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Because Phil is the one giving Fish that many minutes, and not playing Farmar/Brown enough, when they do a pretty good job on Billups. Also, not playing Bynum in the 4th AT ALL?! Giving him 18 mins? really? Leaving Ariza outta the 4th for like 6-7 minutes? HORRIBLE coaching. Also WHY THE FUCK play Vujacic at ALL when he is playing insanely selfish?

There are tons of Laker fans out there very pissed with Phil, and a bunch of ESPN writers have also written articles about this. It's very frustrating. The ZenMaster is beggining to lose it unfortnunately. He's becoming senile.They are one basket away from being up 2-0

[SammyG]

...His substitutions were awful in game 1 too.....

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think the problem is the Nuggets are better than people give them credit for so people are just trying to make excuses. No matter what substitutions he makes every game is gonna be close in my opinion, this series could be 2-0 in either direction right now but instead it's 1-1.

[SammyG]

I am sweatin bullets for this game 3, not gonna lie. Pretty scared

[SammyG]

We are beyond lucky to be within 4 at the half. Lakers getting outplayed. The free throw attempts Denver has is ridiculous. That's what happens when you attack though I guess.

[McLegend]

Pretty physical game here.

[McLegend]

And now refs are calling gay fouls.

[McLegend]

I have never seen an NBA team have so much trouble in bounding the ball before.

[McLegend]

Kobe might miss these free throws here with 22.2 left

[McLegend]

So tired

[McLegend]

Wow made them both. Impressive

[McLegend]

Excellent Kobe Bryant performance.

[Juan]

Excellent Kobe Bryant performance.

No doubt

[SammyG]

MAMBA LAKE SHOW

[RP]

It was actually the Luke Walton show tbh. Lakers dont win that game without his defense on Melo and his passing out of the triangle.

[SammyG]

lol his defense on Melo. k.

[Kris P Lettus]

Lakers are still gonna lose..

[SammyG]

Keep on hatin, Krispy. So when it's Magic-Lakers in the finals, are you gonna be all suckin' on Howard's cock? Or Turkoglu's?

[Kris P Lettus]

What are you talking about??

I have my Hornets out of the West, the Celtics out of the East, and the Cavs because A GUY I GREW UP WITH AND THAT I USED TO SMOKE BLUNTS WITH IN HIGHSCHOOL WHO STILL LIVES IN MY HOMETOWN AND I SEE EVERY TIME HE COME BACK plays for them..

The Nugs KO'd my boys hardcore and have been playing excellent team ball with on of my favorite players of all time in Billups.. I was upset the when they made the trade for AI and new Billups would make them a contender.. From the begining of the season I wanted the Celts and the Cavs in the Eastern confrence finals, and the Hornets in the West.. Two of those three teams are out so why wouldn't I pull for a team I have personal ties with, while pulling against a team I hated for the past decade in the West??

Atleast I have some ties to the teams I pull for as in one is from my area and the other has a player that I KNOW PERSONALLY..

You are from Greece and live in Montana and are randomly are a Lakers and Rams fan, who were both dominant in the late 90's-2000's when you prolly first moved here..

As I've said for weeks, you, and people like you, are the reason I pull against the Lakers..

Eat a dick..

[McLegend]

Liking the Celtics is a clear cut violation. You will never be able to defend yourself.

Also in defense of SammyG he is from Montana... Who else is he gonna cheer for besides LA teams?

[Kris P Lettus]

How is liking the Celtics a clear cut violation.. As soon as they got Ray Allen and KG I knew they'd be good, and I've been a Paul Pierce fan for years..

As for who he could pull for, The Super Sonics (I know they aren't there anymore, but they were when he "picked" the Lakers), the Timberwolves, The Trailblazers, The Jazz, Golden State, The Kings, and even the Denver Nuggets are all closer to where he lives than LA..

Look at a map..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

You know a guy on the Cavs? Haven't seen that mentioned before

[Kris P Lettus]

I tend to have to mention it ever time I say something about the Cavs cause SammyG acts like I'm a fairweather fan..

[Kris P Lettus]

The Clippers are closer to him also..

Forgot about them..

[Loose Cannon]

How is liking the Celtics a clear cut violation.. As soon as they got Ray Allen and KG I knew they'd be good, and I've been a Paul Pierce fan for years..

As for who he could pull for, The Super Sonics (I know they aren't there anymore, but they were when he "picked" the Lakers), the Timberwolves, The Trailblazers, The Jazz, Golden State, The Kings, and even the Denver Nuggets are all closer to where he lives than LA..

Look at a map..

sorry bro, not with you on this one. You like the Celtics because you knew they would be good? what is that?

[McLegend]

How is liking the Celtics a clear cut violation.. As soon as they got Ray Allen and KG I knew they'd be good, and I've been a Paul Pierce fan for years..

Exactly you were pulling for them when you knew they would be good. Why didn't you pull for them when they won 17 games the year before?

GOD DAMNIT

You have said before that you were a Pistons fan before. I would accept that, because you did not grow up with an NBA team. Now though if you have flip-flopped on that you are now far worse then SammyG.

He grew up with a team no where near him. He is allowed to pick any team he wants. He has chosen LA teams. That is fine and I will accept that. SAmmyG is only a joke when he defends Kobe Bryant on subject or for saying "Kobe Doin Work" was great or whatever words he used. That was a joke, and clearly being a mark.

I understand it though, because Kobe is great, but it was still hilarious.

[Kris P Lettus]

Exactly you were pulling for them when you knew they would be good. Why didn't you pull for them when they won 17 games the year before?

GOD DAMNIT

You have said before that you were a Pistons fan before. I would accept that, because you did not grow up with an NBA team. Now though if you have flip-flopped on that you are now far worse then SammyG.

He grew up with a team no where near him. He is allowed to pick any team he wants. He has chosen LA teams. That is fine and I will accept that. SAmmyG is only a joke when he defends Kobe Bryant on subject or for saying "Kobe Doin Work" was great or whatever words he used. That was a joke, and clearly being a mark.

I understand it though, because Kobe is great, but it was still hilarious.

I was a Celtics fan before that, but you can't really pull for a team in the playoff, you know, when they don't make it..

Chauncy Billups was a HUGE reason I pulled for the Pistons in the first place.. Funny how he plays for the team that I am now pulling for, against a team that I hate..

[Kris P Lettus]

As a b-ball fan (same with football), once my team is out, I want to best possible matchup, for the entertainment value..

Really not that hard to figure out..

[SammyG]

Uh. I am a Rams, Dodgers, Lakers fans because my dad used to live in Los Angeles, and when we were living in Greece, that's what he raised me on. He taught me to love American sports, and since he used to live in LA, he passed on the love of Los Angeles teams to me. (Obviously, Rams were in Los Angeles back then, before they moved to St.Louis)

I am not some random bandwagon fan. I am an LA fan because that's what my dad raised me on.

[Kris P Lettus]

Just like I am a Cavs fan because they got Mo Williams..

[SammyG]

Whoa I missed a lot in here. So I basically got called a bandwagon fan, then McLegend came in here? what is going on. should read this.

[SammyG]

As a b-ball fan (same with football), once my team is out, I want to best possible matchup, for the entertainment value..

Really not that hard to figure out..
You think Lakers-Cavs is not the best possible matchup?

[Kris P Lettus]

Nope.. I think the Nugs Cavs would be..

Lebron vs Kobe would be sick, but Mello has actually been playing better D than Kobe.. Mello vs Bron would be sick nasty..

[Kris P Lettus]

Whoa I missed a lot in here. So I basically got called a bandwagon fan, then McLegend came in here? what is going on. should read this.

Never said you were a bandwagon fan.. I just said the arguement is there that you are much more of one than me, who has been pulling for the same 4 teams all season..

Hornets
Pistons
Celtics
Cavs

I started to hate the Pistons when they traded Billups, which is one reason I am pulling for the Nugs now.. That and that I hate the Lakers..

[Loose Cannon]

Sammy is not a bandwagon fan or any variation of one if all the teams he like are from LA. He likes the Rams for god sakes.

I, like most here, don't pull for multiple teams from the same league. I can understand pulling for the Cavs once the Hornets got eliminated, but 4 teams all season? That's a lot of teams for me

[Kris P Lettus]

Hornets and Cavs are the only ones I watched every national game for.. It's really not the "same league" cause I'd never pull for another western team except when the Hornets aren't playing anymore..

Kind of like the NFL.. I am a die hard Saints fan, but I also like the Ravens, Jags, and Pitt.. I'd never pull for another NFC team though..

[McLegend]

Cavs have to stop doubling Howard.

[RP]

I'm the biggest Orlando fan there is basically.

It's science.

[SammyG]

This game is really boring and ugly. By the way I don't know if I've ever seen Ilgauskas miss a perimeter jump shot that's not a three.

[McLegend]

The Refs are terrible here.

Good Lord

[McLegend]

There is a whistle every time down the floor.

[Loose Cannon]

Cavs fucked themselves on this one. Nobody could shoot. To me, Orlando has looked better in every game now. Nobody can guard Howard. Every time he got the ball in the paint tonight, he just muscled everyone or he was fouled. Cavs had tons of chances to make a run, but their terrible shooting fucked them

[McLegend]

Their shooting was terrible, but Cavs still had a great shot to win this game. Lebron was getting good looks, and it seemed like he had a lot of balls that went in and out. They shouldn't feel all that bad about their chances here.

I think Cavs in 6, but they have to find an answer for Mickeal Pietrus. Also Mo Williams has make some shots.

[SammyG]

Cavs in 6? No way. If Cleveland is gonna win this, it's gonna be in 7 games. I am really thinking Orlando is going up 3-1...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Somebody else on the Cavs needs to step it up offensively, depend wayyy too much on LeBron to either score or set up someone else to score.

[DaveWadding]

http://i44.tinypic.com/wiaw68.jpg


How was this a foul?

PS: Dwight Howard > you

[Juan]

Yeah that def was not a foul.

[SammyG]

lol 24 free throws for Bron? GTFO

[Ninti the Mad]

LeBron is such a little bitch. He always gets the calls when there is no foul involved.

I hope Orlando destroys them.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He does get fouled a lot. That one obviously wasn't a foul though.

It kinda looked like a foul when it happened live just because of the weird ass angle so I can't fault the ref that much. Also it was a meaningless foul anyway, the game was already decided at that point so who cares?

Howard was up around 20 FTA himself, so many fouls called in this series - gotta be some type of playoff record.

[VonErichLives]

I was a Celtics fan before that, but you can't really pull for a team in the playoff, you know, when they don't make it..

Chauncy Billups was a HUGE reason I pulled for the Pistons in the first place.. Funny how he plays for the team that I am now pulling for, against a team that I hate..

Did you root for the C's when they had Billups?

[Kris P Lettus]

I was a Kings fan back in the day..

[Krimzon7]

What the FUCK! Cavs are making me squirm. What happened to this Defensive team? The answer for Peitrus is Mo Williams hitting his shots.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I was a Kings fan back in the day..
lol

Not that I really care nor do I think it really matters but I find it funny you are calling out SammyG for liking certain teams but you've listed like 18 NBA teams that you like/have liked in this thread.

I think any Finals combo will be a good match-up but I'd rather see the Cavs/Nuggets. I hate the Lakers and I think the Cavs are more exciting to watch than the Magic. I wouldn't mind seeing Howard beast on all the 7 foot softies the Lakers have tho

[Jeritron]

Baseball is the only sport I really like other teams in, and even still I just enjoy them or their players, and don't root for the team.

I'm strictly a fan of the Boston sports teams. I've never understood the pick and choose method other fans around the country use.

I do respect that Krispy is a Celts/Pierce fan though

[SammyG]

So Krispy is/has been a

Hornets
Pistons
Cavs
Nuggets
Kings

fan? Anything I am missing?

[Kris P Lettus]

So Krispy is/has been a

Hornets
Pistons
Cavs
Nuggets
Kings

fan? Anything I am missing?

Before we got the Hornets there was no team near where I live...

I wasn't calling you out on it, just saying that it's ridiculous to call me out on it when I've been pulling for the Cavs since they got Mo Williams..

All I'm saying..

[Kris P Lettus]

Also, just because I am pulling for the Nuggets doesn't mean I am a "fan".. I like Chauncy Billups and I hate the Lakers.. Only reason I'm pulling for them..

[Icess]

Here, I was scared that the Nuggets would show up tonight...

Now I'm wishing the refs didn't.

[Juan]

Good God, there's a whistle blown every 2 mins. This is ridiculous.

[Icess]

And no call after no call. Thank god Carmello is a defensive wiz nowadays. Otherwise every time he guards someone while slapping them, the game might be slowed down.

[Savio]

Melo needs to get his head back in the game next game

[Icess]

He does, but the flu is serious buisness... He shouldn't be completely discounted

[FearedSanctity]

Pretty sure 'Melo had the flu, while not crippling, I'd assume it fucks your game up a bit

[SammyG]

Umm...

1. Dahntay Jones needs to be suspended. Look at that shit, come on.

2. Do we know what a fucking rebound is?

3. Very disappointed in our lack of intensity.

4. Phil is retarded for not playing Ariza in the 4th, and going with a lineup of Brown-Sasha-Odom-Powell-Pau. He hasn't played that lineup ALL YEAR, and he put that lineup in right when we made it a 3 point game. COME ON YOU SENILE OLD FUCK.

5. I thoroughly expect the Lakers to win game 5, lose game 6, and win this in 7.

6. PEACE

[Savio]

Pretty sure 'Melo had the flu, while not crippling, I'd assume it fucks your game up a bitahhh, dunno i was pissed when he fouled Kobe twice back-to-back

[DaveWadding]

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE SHOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[Icess]

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE SHOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Do you pride yourself on being an idiot?

SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN STTTTTTTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!

Oh, wait...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't think Jones will be suspended for tripping Kobe, if an elbow to the chest isn't worth a suspension why should that be? I also don't agree with Van Gundy comparing it to Alston slapping Eddie House in the head, the trip happened in the "heat of action" (much like the elbows to the chest which has happened a few times during the playoffs) while Alston's slap was well after the play.

I still can't believe Birdman has a normal looking haircut when he doesn't spike it up, don't know why but that seems real wild to me.

[SammyG]

lol Icess, just let it go. His teams lose out, but he tries to talk shit to teams that have made it way further than his teams did. Talking shit when the Suns don't make the playoffs, when his Cubs get destroyed by my Dodgers. Sore loser, let it be.

[SammyG]

Dunno Stima, Kobe was gonna blow by him and he straight up kicked his leg. It's just just a trip. Gotta watch that again. That's gotta be assessed a flagrant 2, a suspension, something.

[Icess]

While I don't think that it will warrant a suspension, this is two blatant "flagrant fouls" that were not called on Jones. I don't want a suspension, I do want the NBA to say "while this is playoff basketball, we won't allow the game to get out of hand". The game degraded into a blacktop event in the fourth because the refs were so off their game tonight. It's not an excuse for the Lakers, as the Nuggets simply crashed boards better. A ton of those rebounds could have been "tickey takey" over the back calls that shouldn't be called, but when you add blatant "miss calls" it just seems to take away from win, regardless of the victor. Bryant didn't get many "regular" calls, Bynum got a silly flagrant towards the end that was absolutely the result of the refs prejudging a situation. Had the refs called real fouls towards the beggining of the game, tempers may have not flared on both sides, as it was a situation of "what can we get away with" in the end (mostly by the Nuggets imo)

Credit where it's due, I thought the Nuggets would win, but I wish it was "clean".

I love quotation marks

[Icess]

lol Icess, just let it go. His teams lose out, but he tries to talk shit to teams that have made it way further than his teams did. Talking shit when the Suns don't make the playoffs, when his Cubs get destroyed by my Dodgers. Sore loser, let it be.

Well at least he doesn't root for 27 teams....

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think Bynum's flagrant will get taken away. That foul looked bad live but when they showed the replay he was definitely going for the ball but just accidentally knocked Birdman's headband off on the way.

Everyone seems to be making a huge deal out of the trip so maybe I am wrong but I just don't see it. I think it should be a flagrant foul but I really don't see how its grounds for a suspension. It was definitely an intentional foul to stop Kobe from getting to the bucket but those happen all the time when a defender gets beat. I know its a different sport but offensive players trip blatantly trip defensive players all the time in the NFL even though its against the rules/a personal foul. If people are making a big deal out of it because Jones had a few other incidents then that would make more sense to me, I didn't see any of the 1st half/some of the 2nd.

Not a fan of Phil Jackson, he is such a little bitch in the post game press conferences all the time. I really hope he never wins another title.

[RP]

Dunno Stima, Kobe was gonna blow by him and he straight up kicked his leg. It's just just a trip. Gotta watch that again. That's gotta be assessed a flagrant 2, a suspension, something.

Oh please STFU

Kobe throws vicious elbows every game and he dont get called for shit. I dont see you going " Oh that Kobe elbow to Ron Artest should be a flagrant 2, a suspension, something "

What a load of shit you Lakers fans are.

[McLegend]

The Whistles are gonna start to come. So gayy

[McLegend]

Actually the whistles have not come.

However Rafer Alston cannot be stopped.

[McLegend]

Howard is feelinf the pressure here. Will he miss?

[McLegend]

Goes 1/2 97-95Magic

[McLegend]

Delonte West goes straight at Dwight Howard 97-97

Leborn at the line shooting 2. Miss the first one. Makes the 2nd.

98-97 CAvs

[SammyG]

About to shit myself. COME ON ORLANDO

[SammyG]

HOLY SHIT LEWIS FOR THREE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SammyG]

LOOK I AM LEBRON I AM GONNA FALL DOWN AND DRAW A FOUL.

Nah i do think he just got tripped.

[SammyG]

MISS THEM FAGGOT

[SammyG]

lol oh my fucking god that 2nd free throw....

[McLegend]

OMG... So close to a choke

.05 left in the 4th tied up.

[SammyG]

THATS A FOUL ON VAREJAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR FUCKS SAKE!

[McLegend]

I think the no call was the right call there. I don't know.

OVERTIME

[McLegend]

THATS A FOUL ON VAREJAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR FUCKS SAKE!

Did kinda look like over the back to though.

Again not sure.

[SammyG]

Yeah, prolly a good no call. Howard destroyed Varejao right there with this dunk.

COME ON ORLANDO FUCK PEANUT AND KRISPY

[SammyG]

Wow, feeding Howard like mad here.

[McLegend]

Lebron is choking in this game.

[SammyG]

Come on Dwight. Sink these.

[SammyG]

4 point game... Keep choking Bron

[McLegend]

Smart play by Lebron actually. No call though.

[McLegend]

Good no call

[SammyG]

Is LeBron serious with that three.

[SammyG]

RASHARD DAMNIT

[McLegend]

3-1 is a hard hole to climb out of.

[SammyG]

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGIC SHOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[Juan]

Fuck you Lebron!

[Dragon]

Almost thought that last shot by Lebron was going in.

[Innovator]

There goes Lebron staying in Cleveland

[SammyG]

I am thinking this Cleveland team is good enough to fight outta this hole, but it won't happen, I don't think.

Orlando-Lakers finals.

[SammyG]

My boy Peanut..

Now that Cleveland is gonna get eliminated I am gonna cheer for Orlando..

Me and Rafer Alston used to ball together and smoke blunts, that's why I'm going for Orlando..

Fuck the Lakers..

[Juan]

Lebron is having the same problem Kobe had a few years ago. He's basically playing 5 against 1 out there.

[McLegend]

Now see this is interesting. Every time the Magic have had to eliminate someone They have done it, and showed no mercy while doing it too. Destroyed both the Sixers and the Celtics.

Now though every time they have had pressure on themselves they lose. Now the pressure is fully on them.

Also though Cleveland could easily be swept now or even be up 3-1. I think Cleveland can do it.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Pretty crazy to think that this series could be over with a Magic sweep if LeBron missed that shot in game 2 or the Cavs could be up 3-1 if Mo Williams hit that shot in game 1/LeBron hit that shot tonight. Granted they both would have been ridiculous shots but still.

[SammyG]

lol Mo Williams getting interviewed after guarenteeing a win in game 4. Looks mad embarassed.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I thought he guaranteed making the Finals?

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Very happy with the way this Orlando-Cleveland series is going. I actually picked Orlando in two out of three of my pools (had Boston in the third) so I'm looking to make some money. Plus I'd love to see Skip with a NBA ring.

[Loose Cannon]

yea, he guaranteed a series win.

Lebron kind of showed a lot of his youngness tonight. He missed some clutch free throws, he forced up a lot of awkward shots and he even kicked it out a couple of times when he had good looks.

Williams and West played better tonight, but still, not good enough. Most of the CAVS points were in the paint and that should not be there game. The Magic have some tremendous shooters and good bench presence.

[Loose Cannon]

Very happy with the way this Orlando-Cleveland series is going. I actually picked Orlando in two out of three of my pools (had Boston in the third) so I'm looking to make some money. Plus I'd love to see Skip with a NBA ring.

how much did you bet?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LeBron still looked real confident after the game, Mo Williams on the other hand did not.

[OssMan]

Traveliers :love: :love: :love: :love:

[Krimzon7]

There goes Lebron staying in Cleveland


Bingo.

[The Gold Standard]

I love Dwight Howard

[SammyG]

COME ON D-WIGHT, GET SOME REBOUNDS

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't get why LeBron needs to leave Cleveland for a "big market." He's going to get a max contract no matter where he goes and he is already like the most marketable player in the NBA. With the TV & Internet you don't need to be in a big market to be a "star"

Still though he should come to Boston when Ray Allen is off the books in 2010...................................................

[SammyG]

lol, Bron KG Pierce. Fuck that.

[Testicle]

I doubt he would end up in Boston, more likely in New York for the Nets.

[SammyG]

.... you mean Jersey.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Nets are trying to move to Brooklyn, running into some snags right now but I think it'll happen eventually.

I don't think LeBron will come to Boston, that would be sick though. If I was him I wouldn't go to the Knicks, he would just set himself back with his championship hopes. They would be like a 6th seed. I could see him going to the Bulls to play with Derrick Rose or some other team that already has a young nucleus of good players.

[Testicle]

.... you mean Jersey.

Aren't they moving to New York soon?

lol you beat me too it

[Savio]

If the nuggets win tonight I will be SO HAPPY

[Juan]

If the Cleveland Lebrons come back and win the series, get ready to hear about it 24/7 on ESPN for about 2 weeks.

[SammyG]

Must win tonight for both teams. Winner of this game is winning the series. Let's go LA.

[Savio]

Lets go Nuggets


How many Techs does Kobe have?

[Juan]

5

[SammyG]

FU Savior_Self

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think the Lakers win tonight, Nuggets win game 6. Dunno what happens in game 7

[SammyG]

game 7 goes to LA, if it goes to it, which I think it will....

Road teams just can't win a game 7...

oh wait Orlando won .OH WELL. I don't think Kobe is gonna let LA lose this series.

That being said. I want Pau and Drew to get more touches today.

[Savio]

I think the Lakers win tonight, Nuggets win game 6. Dunno what happens in game 7I'd say who ever wins tonight wins the series

[Savio]

Any one know if Carmelo is still sick?

[The Gold Standard]

Melo is the man. I want to see Dwight v Melo in the finals.

[Savio]

Damn Melo, 1/5 tonight

[RatedGSuperstar]

I don't get why LeBron needs to leave Cleveland for a "big market." He's going to get a max contract no matter where he goes and he is already like the most marketable player in the NBA. With the TV & Internet you don't need to be in a big market to be a "star"

Still though he should come to Boston when Ray Allen is off the books in 2010...................................................

Not to mention the Cavs will still be set up better to win an NBA title than the Knicks or Nets in 2011, unless the Knicks find a way to set up their cap situation in order to land both LeBron and Bosh in the same summer or something.

[SammyG]

So everyone here suckin the Nugget cock. awesome.

Anyway. Thank god for Sasha hitting that three.. gives us SOME momentum

[Savio]

I only like the nuggets cuz Carmelo went to Syracuse.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Watching this game got me thinking. Fuck who your favorite team is, this year's playoffs have been what made me love fucking basketball. My enthusiasm never left, but that fire I had for it as a kid had been gone. This though, this years playoffs have been fucking drama. Tight games, and teams just playing it all out there. Awesome.

[Juan]

Watching this game got me thinking. Fuck who your favorite team is, this year's playoffs have been what made me love fucking basketball. My enthusiasm never left, but that fire I had for it as a kid had been gone. This though, this years playoffs have been fucking drama. Tight games, and teams just playing it all out there. Awesome.

100% agree

[Savio]

ya I never watch BBall regularly but these playoffs got me mad amped up

[Savio]

lakers won

[SammyG]

LAAAAAAKE SHOW.

Good game. LO was huge.

[RatedGSuperstar]

Watching this game got me thinking. Fuck who your favorite team is, this year's playoffs have been what made me love fucking basketball. My enthusiasm never left, but that fire I had for it as a kid had been gone. This though, this years playoffs have been fucking drama. Tight games, and teams just playing it all out there. Awesome.

Same here...the past few years I've been pretty close to abandoning the NBA and haven't had a rooting interest in any team in particular. Larry Harris killed any love I had for the Bucks growing up, and I've taken a passing interest in the Knicks since I go to school on Long Island and they're always on so I try to catch a few games.

This postseason's been great...one of the craziest series I've ever seen in Chicago/Boston, Orlando making the leap from "good by Eastern Conference standards" to legit title contenders, the heavily favored Lakers having to fight through every series they've played in, Carmelo Anthony finally realizing that potential, LeBron's buzzer beater, etc. Best postseason I can remember since like 1998 when the Bulls and Pacers had that crazy seven game series in the East Finals.

I still don't have a real favorite team, but this has been incredible to watch as a fan of the game. First time in years that the NBA playoffs have rivaled the excitement of the NCAA tournament for me.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah the playoffs have been real good, lots of really good games.

Still think the Nuggs are gonna win game 6 then probably lose game 7. I hope not but for whatever reason the Nuggets play totally different home and away.

Kinda hope the Cavs come back and win the series against the Magic but I'd be happy if it still just went to 7 games. I don't want these playoffs to end...

[SammyG]

Shannon Brown's dunk on Birdman was fucking sweet.

[Krimzon7]

So everyone here suckin the Nugget cock. awesome.

Anyway. Thank god for Sasha hitting that three.. gives us SOME momentum


While I can applaud you for being a true fan, I also have to admonish you for being such a drama queen. Good win for the Lake show nonetheless.

[Krimzon7]

Not to mention the Cavs will still be set up better to win an NBA title than the Knicks or Nets in 2011, unless the Knicks find a way to set up their cap situation in order to land both LeBron and Bosh in the same summer or something.


For the last two years, the Knicks have been setting themselves up to get two of the free agents coming. They hired D'Antoni, Got that huge albatross of Marbury's salary off their books, dumped Randolph's contract, and pretty much have their Bench starting for them now. Lebron and Bosh/Stoudemire/Wade/ or whoever else is a free agent in 2011 will be major.

[Loose Cannon]

yea, it's been the story for a while that the Knicks' goal has been to get James in 2010. And that would be amazing.

Last night, the Lakers did exactly what the CAVS can not seem to do. Everyone contributed. I think Kobe had like 15 shots or something. When they double up Kobe, somebody is open, and when those guys can drain thier shots, you can't stop that.

Oh and Kobe did something last night that really impressed me considering he did not take many shots in the game at this point and was wide open. During the end of the game, he was wide open for a 3, but opted to pass to ball inside to a wide open Lamar. To me, the younger Kobe does not do that. great play

[SammyG]

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4311/saiyanlakers.jpg

[SammyG]

Anonymous Nuggets player accuses Lakers of buying a win
May 28, 2009 · Filed Under Denver Nuggets, Los Angeles Lakers, News

The Denver Post (Mark Kiszla) reports after the Lakers beat the Nuggets in Game 5: In an accusation that goes straight to the heart of the sport’s integrity, one member of the Nuggets shook his head in disgust after the game, and could not believe how cheap it was for Los Angeles to buy a 3-2 lead in the Western Conference finals. “The Lakers paid $50,000 to win that game. They got their money’s worth,” said a Denver player, not wanting to be identified for fear of retribution from the league. Was the outcome rigged? I refuse to believe it was. The 16 field-goal attempts the Nuggets missed during the fourth quarter had much more to do with the defeat than any of the 30 personal fouls called against Denver by the referees.



Gotta be Kenyon Martin

[Juan]

Anonymous Nuggets player accuses Lakers of buying a win
May 28, 2009 · Filed Under Denver Nuggets, Los Angeles Lakers, News

The Denver Post (Mark Kiszla) reports after the Lakers beat the Nuggets in Game 5: In an accusation that goes straight to the heart of the sport’s integrity, one member of the Nuggets shook his head in disgust after the game, and could not believe how cheap it was for Los Angeles to buy a 3-2 lead in the Western Conference finals. “The Lakers paid $50,000 to win that game. They got their money’s worth,” said a Denver player, not wanting to be identified for fear of retribution from the league. Was the outcome rigged? I refuse to believe it was. The 16 field-goal attempts the Nuggets missed during the fourth quarter had much more to do with the defeat than any of the 30 personal fouls called against Denver by the referees.

Exactly

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Really don't think a NBA ref would risk their job for 50,000

[Loose Cannon]

I doubt whomever said that meant it seriously. kind of just seems like the reporter spun it in a way to make his report more interesting.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Good grief look what Cleveland is doing to start

[The Gold Standard]

Not to mention the Cavs will still be set up better to win an NBA title than the Knicks or Nets in 2011, unless the Knicks find a way to set up their cap situation in order to land both LeBron and Bosh in the same summer or something.

The Knicks have set their cap up where they can sign 2 guys to max contracts in 2010. Which means they can sign LeBron and another superstar that year.

[The Gold Standard]

Lets go Magic!!

[Juan]

Lets go Magic!!

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Yyyyyyeeeah Orlando with a hell of a comeback to end the first. Make me some money boys!

[Loose Cannon]

Watching this game got me thinking. Fuck who your favorite team is, this year's playoffs have been what made me love fucking basketball. My enthusiasm never left, but that fire I had for it as a kid had been gone. This though, this years playoffs have been fucking drama. Tight games, and teams just playing it all out there. Awesome.

yea, I know. something about these playoffs, even before Chicago/Boston really drew me in. Tell you what, TNT did a fantastic job with thier 40 Nights Marketing commercials. That definately hooked me. but there's been so much drama throughout this whole thing.

[Juan]

Yeah, I think TNT def has the best coverage

[Juan]

I love Doug Collins

[SammyG]

WE WERE ALL WITNESSES ONE LAST TIME.

k, Orlando wins next game. Please.

Honestly, I think LA matches up better with Cleveland. Orlando causes us problems. but if Orlando makes it..... Home court Advantage goes to LA

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Knew the Cavs where gonna blow that end in the 1st quarter. LeBron played out of his mind at the end, great game.

[Loose Cannon]

I wish he would go to the basket a little bit more. He loves to take that step back jumper, which was pretty on late last night. But every time he goes to the basket, he gets a call.

Williams was finally on last night. thank god. yea, I knew that lead would evaoprate by the 2nd half.

I want the Cavs to win. I have to admit, I am a Lebron fan. I really never like star players, unless they are on my teams, but Lebron is awesome.

[SammyG]

I think game 6 is gonna be epic. Double, triple overtime.

The Cavs one.

[Krimzon7]

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4311/saiyanlakers.jpg



Can you photoshop your mouth on their cocks?

[Juan]

At the risk of sounding like a fanboy, I just have to say, this is BEAUTIFUL

[Krimzon7]

Kobe is beating back every fucking Nuggets run. Beautiful. There is nothing more enjoyable as a player than to clinch a road victory by sticking a dagger in every fucking fans' heart....then twisting.

[Juan]

lol Kobe "No mercy!"

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow Lakers smashed them

[SammyG]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! ON TO THE FINALS BABY!

What an excellent team performance. Seriously. Everyone stepped up. Luke fucking Walton had 10 points come on.

[McLegend]

Really hope the Cavs don't get smashed like that.

[SammyG]

I really hope they do. I want homecourt. Still think LA matches up better with Cleveland though.

[SammyG]

24-24 from the free throw line btw.

[SammyG]

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m173/DarthMamba24/smithTard.jpg

[Fignuts]

They are fucking retards. God damn fucking nuggets. I was unable to watch tonight, but they lost this series fr themselves in game 3 and 5, when they started turning the ball over like crazy in the 4th, and blowing leads. Awful. So pissed at them.

[Fignuts]

FUCK

Really wanted to go to an NBA Finals game.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Surprised Phil Jackson wasn't still crying in his post-game press conference tonight even though they won

[SammyG]

YO HOLLA MIGHT BE GOING TO GAME 1

[Krimzon7]

Lebron would score 100 points before he goes out like that. My money is down. Sammy that Retards pic is fucking classic.

[RP]

The best part of the Denver vs LA series was when Smith hit that 3 at the end of the 3rd quarter and punked Sasha out.

[Loose Cannon]

LA matches up a lot better with the CAVS. CAVS have a terrible inside presence (well not terrible, but pretty bad against bigger teams) and the Lakers have a good inside presence.

[Loose Cannon]

I want the CAVS to win, but I don't want to Lakers to win and I don't see the Cavs beaitng LA. Orlando has a better chance imo