NBA 2009-2010 Season Thread

[McLegend]

Also Samuel Dalembert was apparently traded to the Kings for Andres Nocioni and Spencer Hawes.

[Nervous Ferret]

Samuel Dalembert :)

[Juan]

Also Samuel Dalembert was apparently traded to the Kings for Andres Nocioni and Spencer Hawes.

wow

[alvarado52]

Who's the Kings GM? He should be fired.

[VonErichLives]

pretty confident that Celtics can't win this without Perkins. Gasol, Odom and Bynum are going to be able to get inside a lot more and get Kobe more space or vice versa. The bigs are going to win this for the Lakers tonight

Here's the things that the Celtics need to fall in place...

1) Rasheed has the game of his life, he doesn't have to worry about getting 1 tech tonight (him and perk were both at the limit) what will they do? suspend him for game 1 next year?

2) The old Gasol needs to show up, the soft player that doesn't crash the board an takes alligator arm shots... this is not the Gasol that has played most of this year or this playoffs but every so often you see a little bit of him...

3) Kobe needs to take control, let Kobe go off for 60... 2 things happen when that happens, first everyone else backs off and slows down on the Lakers and it becomes a 1 on 5 for Kobe. Second is Artest will try to get in the act and start missing 3's.

an the Celtics win? yes... and I don't just mean that in a "any team could win" situation, I think they have a real shot... but no, I wouldn't bet my money on them...

I think there are plenty of Lakers from 2008 who remember being down 40 points game 6 in Boston...

[IC Champion]

Yeah, and you should remember that was a different Lakers team, without Bynum, against a younger Celtics teams, which Kevin Garnet could still guard his own man.

[VonErichLives]

Yeah, and you should remember that was a different Lakers team, without Bynum, against a younger Celtics teams, which Kevin Garnet could still guard his own man.

Right, my point being I think this Lakers team will be out for blood and run up the score... also keep in mind Phil Jackson HATES the Celtics.

[IC Champion]

Right, my point being I think this Lakers team will be out for blood and run up the score... also keep in mind Phil Jackson HATES the Celtics.

Oh, I thought you meant because it happened 2 years ago, it could happen again.

[Jeritron]

Anything can happen in the NBA!

[alvarado52]

I hate Christina Aguilara. She has to fuckin' try to fancy shit up...sing the song right, i dont give a damn about all the noises you can make to extend the damn notes.

[McLegend]

She looked pretty good tonight though.

[RP]

Kobe was just mugged like 4 times and no foul

[McLegend]

Gasol in some early foul trouble.

[McLegend]

KG in some early foul trouble.

[McLegend]

Lakers looking a little nervous right now.

Fast quarter btw

[alvarado52]

This has to be a record for lowest scoring half/quarter

[RoXer]

Jeff Van Gundy is a perv

[alvarado52]

Jeff Van Roxer

[RoXer]

I know, right?

[McLegend]

lol Brian Scalabrine

[alvarado52]

Kobe's trying to be too much a freakin' hero on every shot.

[IC Champion]

If Kobe wants to get better looks he should try hitting the open man when he is being doubled instead of forcing it. Maybe then they will stay at home instead of double and triple teaming him everytime.

[alvarado52]

well, if the Lakers would hit their free throws, and spread the floor more so we could work in the post without clogging it, we'd probably see a more efficient scoring machine. And a lead.

[Emperor Smeat]

Celtics survived the initial Lakers onslaught in the 2nd Q. 11 straight points in 1st 5 minutes and then locked the defense down again (9 points in 7 mins).

[Juan]

ugly first half

[Emperor Smeat]

Whole hype into this game 7 was all about Kobe and his "moment" so its not that much of a surprise if he's trying to do everything like a Jordan or Magic/Bird did in the past.

[McLegend]

This is like a Pat Riley's Knick's game. Not as hard though.

I like it so far.

[Crimson]

I smell a big Lakers run in the 3rd.

[alvarado52]

I smell a big Lakers run in the 3rd.

they are lucky its this close. Winning the boards is great and all, but the offense has looked god awful.

[MVP]

I like the way things are going for the Celtics right now, but I won't be comfortable until the game is over.

[Crimson]

I smell a big Lakers run in the 3rd.

OR NOT

[McLegend]

It ain't over yet Crimson.

[alvarado52]

i still think Kobe is trying too hard to get his shot. He can open up good shots for others just based off the name on his jersey.

[Jeritron]

Allen's shooting horribly tonight

[alvarado52]

leave your feet to pass the ball. Great decision.

[IC Champion]

Hes done it all night.

[alvarado52]

Honestly though, Kobe is playing stupid tonight.

[McLegend]

ROFL Ron Artest dribbling out of bounds

[Jeritron]

Tremendously frustrating game for both sides. Probably going to be a nailbiter

[McLegend]

Brian Scalabrine

[alvarado52]

lol, thats really the best inbound play we could get huh?

[alvarado52]

so far, this game has been the equivalent of Rashad Evans vs Rampage Jackson.

[Jeritron]

Why does it always have to be so stressful?

[Jeritron]

a bit shit right now

[McLegend]

Everyone is so nervous and tight.

[Splaya]

If the Celtics win this series, Rondo should be the MVP

[alvarado52]

Fucking hell man..if the Lakers would just hit their free throws.

[Nervous Ferret]

So0o0o0o glad to see Kobe struggling. H8 him and his stupid superior basketball skills/work ethic.

[McLegend]

Marcus Jordan's tweet:

NO ONE...And I mean NO ONE should EVER com par kobe Bryant to my dad an say that he is anywhere near close to my dad He's jagging this game

Marcus Jordan laying it down.

[McLegend]

I think Kobe will wake up btw.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Bill Simmons live blog on ESPN for the game


sportsguy33:
Ray pulls a shot out of Derek Fisher's colon. Celts by 3.

[Nervous Ferret]

com par

Also glad that Marcus Jordan probably doesn't pronounce the 'd' in and, so there is no reason for him to include it in his tweet or w/e that was

[Splaya]

Bullshit call on Sheed. Ball Don't Lie Pau

[Splaya]

:lol: Bill Simmons live blog on ESPN for the game


sportsguy33:
Ray pulls a shot out of Derek Fisher's colon. Celts by 3.

I still think he is the funniest sports writer

[McLegend]

There was not a doubt in mind that Derek Fisher was going to hit that 3.

[alvarado52]

omfg...this game. My freakin' heart is pounding.

[Juan]

jesus christ

[alvarado52]

moving screen KG

[McLegend]

Ray Allen is channeling John Starks right now.

[Juan]

fantastic!

[IC Champion]

Is that Kobe Bryant I see?

[IC Champion]

Ray Allen is channeling John Starks right now.

LOL, they mentioned Stark earlier.

[alvarado52]

David Stern is sitting upon his throne of cash laughing from his secret base. Its all going according to plan.

[alvarado52]

hit your fucking free throws Pau

[alvarado52]

thank you

[McLegend]

They need Sheed

[Emperor Smeat]

They need Ray Allen to be shooting better than what he's doing.

[alvarado52]

Lakers will win this if they keep getting the ball in the post and drawing contact

[alvarado52]

YES!

[McLegend]

That was really dumb by Paul Pierce

[Splaya]

I'll tell you what, The Lakers have played great defense in the fourth

[McLegend]

That was a somewhat dumb move by Ron Artest

[alvarado52]

dumb ass shot Odom

[McLegend]

Some Laker fan was just killed

[alvarado52]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IC Champion]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[IC Champion]

Is is seriously a great game, lack of offense and all.

[Juan]

Is is seriously a great game, lack of offense and all.

word

[alvarado52]

YESS!!!!

[Jeritron]

This shit is bonkers

[Droford]

its raining 3's

[IC Champion]

And size kills again.

[alvarado52]

heart attack

[McLegend]

That 3 attempt by Kobe was really stupid.

[IC Champion]

Ron Artest has balls of steal.

[Juan]

i think i've aged 15 years watching this game

[Jeritron]

oh my goodness

[IC Champion]

Just get it in bounds.

[alvarado52]

This will go down as one of the greatest game 7s in NBA history.

[IC Champion]

I couldnt take an OT, seriously.

[Jeritron]

fuckin vujacic

[Juan]

THE MACHINE

[Emperor Smeat]

Would this mean Adam Morrison is going to have 2 rings even though he's done almost nothing the last 2 years ?

[McLegend]

Lol it comes down to Ron Artest hitting a 3 and Sasha hitting Free throws.

[IC Champion]

And I would foul on the in bounds if i were the lakers unless its near the three point line.

[alvarado52]

as a Laker fan, this game is beautiful. Seeing the TEAM do this, not 'Kobe and them other guys' is so awesome.

[IC Champion]

SUCK IT CELTICS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[alvarado52]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IC Champion]

THATS 5 NIGGAS

[Juan]

got goosebumps right now

[MVP]

fml

[McLegend]

No one again ever tell me how clutch Kobe Bryant is.

Good job though Lakers.

[Juan]

wow, pretty emotional right now

gotta go

[IC Champion]

That was one of the greatest games I've seen in any sport.

[IC Champion]

Ron Artest was the best player on the floor for 48 minutes, no doubt.

[Emperor Smeat]

:foc: Kobe. Guarantee it means next year the whole storyline will be "Can Kobe reach 6 rings" like Jordan.

Lakers deserved to win since when it mattered the most they didn't fold/collapse while Celtics did what they've done all season which was blowing leads or forgetting how to shoot.

[alvarado52]

Man. RON!

[IC Champion]

LOL Ron Artest shouted out to his psychiatrist.

[RoXer]

I'd like to thank my phsyciaitrist and I have a new single coming out

[McLegend]

Ron Artest was the best player on the floor for 48 minutes, no doubt.

Pau Gasol might have some doubt.

[therocksays]

fuck la

[IC Champion]

Ron Artest was a beast on d and shut down the other teams best player , and made some big shots that kept them in it and kept them up.

[Jeritron]

At least I'm not from Cleveland

[McLegend]

I'm not one to normally bash Kobe for this, but his daugthers being up on the podium is absurd.

[alvarado52]

I SO wanna see what all the Artest doubters post on facebook tonight, because HE is the one who got it for us on this night.

[McLegend]

I SO wanna see what all the Artest doubters post on facebook tonight, because HE is the one who got it for us on this night.

Trevor Azria could have done it again.

[McLegend]

:lol:

[RoXer]

WHAT THE FUCK IS A CHAMPEEN

[alvarado52]

today is one of the greatest days for me as a Laker fan, this win. To see every player play a part in this W, beautiful...just beautiful.

[Jeritron]

Time to riot in LA

[Jeritron]

Seriously though, congrats to the Lakers fans. Wild and crazy game

[SammyG]

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LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE SHOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[Jeritron]

Nobody had any idea that you'd be back. Shocking

[alvarado52]

SAAAAAYYY QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNSSBRRRIIIDDDGEEE FAGGOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE SHOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

FUCK. YES!

[Joey Slugs]

That was one of the greatest games I've seen in any sport.

I'm sorry - but was that the ONLY game you have ever watched? That was easily one of the worst games I have sat through in a long time. The whole series was absolute shit. I guess both teams were saving some energy for Game 8....

[SammyG]

Ok, I said it was my last post in casual.. I have to break it. I am beyond ecstatic right now. Just had to come back for this. QUEENSBRIDGE

[SammyG]

MAD ugly game to watch

[IC Champion]

SHould they retired Fishers jerseys after winning 5 with LA?

[alvarado52]

It wasnt a fight of perfection v. perfection, but a tooth and nail scrap is as awesome as a precision battle.

[IC Champion]

I'm sorry - but was that the ONLY game you have ever watched? That was easily one of the worst games I have sat through in a long time. The whole series was absolute shit. I guess both teams were saving some energy for Game 8....

That was a great defensive game though. Close most the game, game 7.

[alvarado52]

SHould they retired Fishers jerseys after winning 5 with LA?

No. Im not saying Fisher doesnt deserve it, but the Laker franchise seems to be very selective and strict with retired jerseys.

[IC Champion]

I never said the greatest.

[alvarado52]

ah yes...forgot about the dumb asses in SoCal...this is always the buzzkill after the win.

[RoXer]

ROFL these Adam Morrison higghlights on JKL

[SammyG]

This is so incredible to watch. My god.

[SammyG]

Artest's interview after the game LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[alvarado52]

though i do hope we tip Boston's bus while they are leaving.

[SammyG]

NIGGA I'M ON WHEATIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to go to the club

[OssMan]

i just wanna thank my doctor

and my psychiatrist for helping me relax

i was so relaxed in the 4th quarter

and when i hit that 3 pointer in the 4th quarter i was relaxed

so i wanna thank my psychiatrist for that

and i wrote a song called champion last june

the single is about to come out

[Juan]

I'm sorry - but was that the ONLY game you have ever watched? That was easily one of the worst games I have sat through in a long time. The whole series was absolute shit. I guess both teams were saving some energy for Game 8....

Aside from the ugly game 7 and the blowout in game 6, all these games have been great. Best Finals in a long time imo

[Tyguy]

Losing Perkins was a big blow for the Celtics like I said it would be before the series started. Unfortunately it was due to injury and not suspension from receiving a technical. Even though i'm not a Celtics fan I have always admired Perkins for his toughness and excellent post defense.

[McLegend]

If was I was a reporter at the press conference... I would ask Kobe what does it feel like to be the 2nd best player on 5 championship teams?

[IC Champion]

He was the best player on the last 2 for sure, and probably 3.

[Juan]

I think some people think Finals MVP = Game 7 MVP

[Innovator]

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[alvarado52]

Ew, cmon David, you can do much MUCH MUCH MUCH better than that brown troll

[IC Champion]

He could just jerk himself off with her.

[VonErichLives]

so, in 2008 a lot of lakers fans say they lost because Bynum was injured, so by that logic in 2010 the Celtics lost because Perkins was injured?

lets get both teams 100% healthy and play the rubber match next year.

Sadly, i don't think the C's have another run in them... I also don't know how they start to rebuild...

I don't think Garnett at his age and price has much trade value.

Allen has some.

I say they trade Pierce while they can still get something good for him and/or free u some space to make a run for one of the big free agents...

[alvarado52]

Bynum was STILL injured this year, and its not like Perkins was out the entire series, just a game and a half. Perkins made the inside tougher sure, but Wallace gave the Celts another offensive threat, so you take the good with the bad.

Regardless, there may or may not be another matchup of these teams (i hope there is), but i dont think i'd compare the loss of Andrew Bynum for the entire series of 08 to the loss of Perkins D and gain of Wallace's O for a couple games in 2010.

[Jeritron]

I think what he's saying is that it's lame for either side to try to discredit the other's win, or act as though theirs was any more legitimate

[Crimson]

^^ Agreed. It's not like the Celtics BARELY beat the Lakers in '08. They slapped em around pretty much. Bynum woulda made maybe a little difference, but I doubt he woulda turned the series around.

[McLegend]

I think what he's saying is that it's lame for either side to try to discredit the other's win, or act as though theirs was any more legitimate
This is true

However Kobe's MVP is pretty illegitimate.

[Juan]

This is true

However Kobe's MVP is pretty illegitimate.

He was the best player in the series.

[McLegend]

Pau Gasol was the best player. However Pau Gasol goes the Lakers go.

Gasol>Kobe

[Jeritron]

As a Celtics fan, I would say that Gasol was the MVP. Whether they won or lost depended on his play far more, throughout the entire series.
The Celtics have shown that they can manage Kobe, and even if he goes off they can still win. Gasol was the real problem, and how they managed him determined the outcome of games.
That's why I'd say he was easily the MVP of the Lakers. It's not even a matter of any bias or hate either, because I despise Gasol far more than I hate Kobe.
Kobe just got it because he's Kobe, I think, and the NBA would also like him to move closer to Jordan in MVP awards.

[IC Champion]

Where would the Lakers have been without Kobe's 30 ppg? While the Lakers wouldnt have won without Gasol, Kobe was the driving force behind everything.

[Jeritron]

I think they should take a team for what it is, and award the x-factor though. If what you're saying is the case, the best player on the team should almost always win by default, even if they're managed well by the opposing team or even deliver below expectations.

I get what you're saying, I just feel Gasol would be my choice. I suppose it also can come down to the pointless "define MVP" debate

[Juan]

Pau was consistent and efficient, but even in the losses in this series, it was Kobe that kept the Lakers in those games.

[Tyguy]

Pau was consistent and efficient, but even in the losses in this series, it was Kobe that kept the Lakers in those games.Indeed he is those things, but lets not downplay his contributions to the lakers. Before gasol got to the lakers post shaq the lakers didnt make the playoffs one year, and were bounced in round 1 the very next. Since gasol has become a laker they have made the finals three times in a row, and won 2 championships. I don't think thats a coincidence, and there is a reason teams around the league were screaming when that lopsided trade went through. Hes one of the best big men in the league.

[Juan]

I'm a Lakers fan, I know how important he is to the Lakers. You're preaching to the choir.

[Jeritron]

Well of course he's a better player and more valuable to the Lakers on the whole. I'm just judging it by the series and how important each player was to the overall strategy of the matchup.
You can say that Kobe was more valuable, because of what he always means to that team, but Kobe is and has been the best player on the team so that's inherent. If it's approached that way he's MVP before the series even tips off.

[VonErichLives]

I think what he's saying is that it's lame for either side to try to discredit the other's win, or act as though theirs was any more legitimate

yes that was my point.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Fuck

[Juan]

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/741558/kobe-s-celebration-game-7-o.gif

[RP]

Man, Kobe acts like Michael Jordan every chance he gets. It's embarressing.

[Juan]

i no right

[alvarado52]

seriously, winning championships and MVPs 'n shit

[RP]

Kobe wasnt even the 2nd best player on his team this series

[alvarado52]

neither was Jordan, the real hero was Luc Longley

[Juan]

Kobe wasnt even the 2nd best player on his team this series

lol

[RP]

lol

You really think Kobe was more valuable then Pau Gasol and Ron Artest in the finals? Really? The Lakers barely won and if Gasol and Artest played like shit, they would have lost in 6. Atleast admit this.

[Juan]

but if Artest and Gasol would have showed up for Game 5, Lakers would have won in 6.

[DaveWadding]

I'D LIKE TO THANK MY PSYCHIATRIST FROM QUEENSBRIDGE

[BollywoodSingh]

You really think Kobe was more valuable then Pau Gasol and Ron Artest in the finals? Really? The Lakers barely won and if Gasol and Artest played like shit, they would have lost in 6. Atleast admit this.

Do you think the Lakers would have won without Bryant?

[Juan]

Should we get an off-season thread going?

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site568/2010/0618/20100618_091448_gswlogo_500.jpg

[RoXer]

Why would their secondary logo have an SF?

[RoXer]

I don't know how I feel about that. I understand they want to encompass SF as part of the Bay Area but they play in Oakland. I dunno.

[RoXer]

Oakland Warriors
Oakland/San Francisco Warriors
"Bay Area" Warriors
Golden State Warriors
California Including The Los Angeles Area Warriors
West Side Warriors
American Warriors
North American Warriors
Northern Hemisphere Warriors
Earth Warriors
Milky Way Galaxy Warriors

Where does it end?

[DaveWadding]

San Francisco Warriors of Oakland

[Droford]

Looks like they should be the Golden Gate Warriors

[likemike34]

Should we get an off-season thread going?

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site568/2010/0618/20100618_091448_gswlogo_500.jpg

[Skippord]

would you people stop undermining my off season thread?

[SammyG]

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