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Old 02-26-2009, 09:15 PM   #1
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Goldberg...

Bigger in the media: Absolutely.
Bigger in the business: Absolutely not.

And that's all that matters.
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:19 PM   #2
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Goldberg...

Bigger in the media: Absolutely.
Bigger in the business: Absolutely not.

And that's all that matters.
What do you mean "bigger in the business?"
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:25 PM   #3
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What do you mean "bigger in the business?"
Backstage and with non-fair-weather fans, Michaels wins out. With ease.
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:26 PM   #4
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Backstage and with non-fair-weather fans, Michaels wins out. With ease.
Define ease.
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:28 PM   #5
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Define ease.
12. Shipbuilding. to trim (a timber of a wooden hull) so as to fair its surface into the desired form of the hull.
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:30 PM   #6
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12. Shipbuilding. to trim (a timber of a wooden hull) so as to fair its surface into the desired form of the hull.
So Shawn Michaels is also bigger than Goldberg in seamanship.
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:46 PM   #7
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Backstage and with non-fair-weather fans, Michaels wins out. With ease.
Backstage, definitely. With non-fair-weather fans? I'll give you that, but I think Goldberg not being in the industry right now would have a lot to do with that. When Goldberg was around, he was the guy in WCW. Shawn Michaels has never been the guy in WWE.

I have never tried to make the implication that Goldberg is "better" than Shawn Michaels in any more than one area: appreciation with casual fans and the general population of the world. It's a very shallow victory, as it pertains to a wrestler's relationship with people who have a very passing interest in wrestling.

Discussing this with smarks is a bad idea. We can get very protective, and as we're immersed in the wrestling world, we get quite defensive when someone tries to tell us that "Wrestler We Hold in High Esteem" can't do this or that, and "Wrestler We Know Is Asshole and Had Easy Street" can.

I'm going to try and compare the Shawn Michaels: Greatest Ever(?) debate to something in film, another of my passions. When listing the greatest movie of all-time, there are certain correct answers. Citizen Kane, The Godfather, etc. That doesn't mean that they are your favourite movies. They are just regarded as "the best." I might really like Rear Window, which is an absolute classic, but is just not one of those "correct" answers. It's still a classic, and has influenced so many other great movies.

Rear Window is how I think of Shawn Michaels.
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