World of Warcraft.

**Nark Order** · 10-04-2011, 07:27 PM

New players wouldn't even obtain a talent tree yet in the span of two hours. And if they did, they would just be starting to understand it. No, WoW isn't an immensely complicated game when it comes to talents/spells, it's very fairly complicated later on (especially in PVP) when you're testing your skill against other players and PVE content. Definitely think you're trying to oversimplify things to prove your point. Also, so far you've really only expressed problems with end game, which is only part of the overall game. The first time I stepped into Stormwind I almost shit my pants. WoW does a great job of creating a meaningful experience for first time players and even repeat players. Everything is done with style and done with intention.

And fine. Eve is probably a good game. That doesn't really mean that WoW is a bad game.

10-04-2011, 07:27 PM	#11
Nark Order Soundly Defeated Wadding Posts: 40,590	New players wouldn't even obtain a talent tree yet in the span of two hours. And if they did, they would just be starting to understand it. No, WoW isn't an immensely complicated game when it comes to talents/spells, it's very fairly complicated later on (especially in PVP) when you're testing your skill against other players and PVE content. Definitely think you're trying to oversimplify things to prove your point. Also, so far you've really only expressed problems with end game, which is only part of the overall game. The first time I stepped into Stormwind I almost shit my pants. WoW does a great job of creating a meaningful experience for first time players and even repeat players. Everything is done with style and done with intention. And fine. Eve is probably a good game. That doesn't really mean that WoW is a bad game.