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Old 12-20-2011, 08:18 AM   #81
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this is to the mark who started this thread, how the hell can you call your self a fan, at first yes show couldnt wrestle, e.b. saw a hugh man to throw at hogan to get buyrates but his dedication to learn the art of the big man is only matches by "in my opinion" Andre, Bam Bam Bigalow, and honestly kevin nash. Mark Henry as well i can say has erned his one title reign in a decade and a half. i think u sir are a high spot monkey that watches sports entertainment instead of pro wrestling.

To answer the MITB ?, it serves as a built in swerve because in most cases u are somewhat suprised at the time they are cashed in. again my opinion.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:20 AM   #82
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this is to the mark who started this thread, how the hell can you call your self a fan, at first yes show couldnt wrestle, e.b. saw a hugh man to throw at hogan to get buyrates but his dedication to learn the art of the big man is only matches by "in my opinion" Andre, Bam Bam Bigalow, and honestly kevin nash. Mark Henry as well i can say has erned his one title reign in a decade and a half. i think u sir are a high spot monkey that watches sports entertainment instead of pro wrestling.

To answer the MITB ?, it serves as a built in swerve because in most cases u are somewhat suprised at the time they are cashed in. again my opinion.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:20 AM   #83
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Yes, Kane I was trying to use logic to explain things. I see where I went wrong now.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:25 AM   #84
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I remember watching Stone Cold fight Vince McMahon when I was young back in 1985.
Yeah, but do you remember the birth of Hulkamania when Hulk Hogan beat The Iron Sheik for the WWF Championship at Madison Square Garden in 1996?
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:26 AM   #85
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:08 AM   #87
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Money in the bank is gay as fuck now. It makes the champ even LESS credible than not winning the title at all
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:08 AM   #88
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It's better to never be WWE or World Champion than to win it with MITB
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:00 AM   #89
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this is to the mark who started this thread, how the hell can you call your self a fan, at first yes show couldnt wrestle, e.b. saw a hugh man to throw at hogan to get buyrates but his dedication to learn the art of the big man is only matches by "in my opinion" Andre, Bam Bam Bigalow, and honestly kevin nash. Mark Henry as well i can say has erned his one title reign in a decade and a half. i think u sir are a high spot monkey that watches sports entertainment instead of pro wrestling.

To answer the MITB ?, it serves as a built in swerve because in most cases u are somewhat suprised at the time they are cashed in. again my opinion.
That's right, show him his post was retarded by making an even more retarded one!

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Yes, Kane I was trying to use logic to explain things. I see where I went wrong now.
Using logic that completely undercuts the whole reason it was up for discussion in the first place, really. Kinda a Pyrrhic victory, really.

You're also using more assumption than actual logic. There's using logic to come to a conclusion, and there's distorting it to justify why it's okay that your husband beats you.

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Yeah, but do you remember the birth of Hulkamania when Hulk Hogan beat The Iron Sheik for the WWF Championship at Madison Square Garden in 1996?
I wasn't born yet.

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u heard me lol
Well, yes. We heard some petulant child screaming at the internet via flailing his hands at the keyboard. Words even came out. Sometimes.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:12 PM   #90
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It's been going downhill since the internet got popular.
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Does that mean a stoner's mentality is now higher than the new generation of posters?
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:22 PM   #93
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Does that mean a stoner's mentality is now higher than the new generation of posters?
By and large, yes. Nothing wrong with that though V.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:58 PM   #94
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I'm not going to lie, I mark out like a bitch when a MITB winner cashes in and wins either of the two World Titles.

Some more than others (Alberto Del Rio, Miz), but still.
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Explain how this is good for wrestling.
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Explain how this is good for wrestling.
Well, a red "x" is NEVER good or wrestling...or anything else.
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Money in the bank is gay as fuck now. It makes the champ even LESS credible than not winning the title at all

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Good grief guys can we actually have a thread that discusses something anymore? I can barely bring myself to post here anymore because every time I read a thread it's filled with moronic, trollish replies. What the heck happened to this place? And another thing, I'm sick to death of the IWC swinging from the indy guys' nutsacks. Here's reality...THEY AREN'T THAT GOOD!!! Both of your current champions in WWE look as though they can be broken in half by a decent size high school football player for gawd sakes.

To answer the OP's question, I don't think it makes a whole lot of sense either except for the fact that the champ just went through a match right then and may not have the strength to defend again. However, there should be a rematch clause absolutely.


I know you TPWW guys have earned your stripes here on the forums; here on the internet.



Steve Viscious has less than 500 posts, how dare that asshole post here at TPWW.




The QUALITY OF POSTING HAS GONE WAY DOWN OVER THE YEARS. JUST LOOK IN THIS THREAD, IF ONLY STEVE COULD POST LIKE THESE OTHER GUYS.




But he's absolutely correct in stating this whole place is full of trolls that can't have an intelligent conversation. Rip me for saying I'm nWo for life, they didn't even have that big of impact on wrestling-- DX..... HHH revolutionized wrestling, not the nWo


but it's all fun! Wrestling is fun. I'm cool with the Christopher Nowinski jokes, too. It's all in good fun, but I'd like to get a few superior responses compared to the worthless trolls, here. I don't know what some of your guy's problem is. I asked a question: explain how money in the bank is good for wrestling? and most of you had some really lame fukking comments such as, "WCW is dead, get over it", "Burn him at the stake', and "Wrestling is serious business". God, you guys are assholes!




My business here was to discuss how PIN THE CHAMPION AFTER the match is good for wrestling.


Thanks for the few quality answers I got from some of you guys
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Can you explain how it's bad for wrestling?
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My business here was to discuss how PIN THE CHAMPION AFTER the match is good for wrestling.
And to let us know that when you're nWo, you're nWo for life, brother.
Now, explain how you doing THIS is good for wrestling.
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:36 PM   #101
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@ anybody thrilla, My first reaction to money in the bank whore shit is it's a bail out for the creative team. We all love a good swerve, but if it takes a wrestler pinning a champion after a ONE FALL match concludes to do so... well, we have got to get a better creative team and a better brand of wrestling. I've been thinking "totally non-stop" on this one...
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Well usually the briefcase is cashed in after the champion has been substantially compromised. You don't ever see the champ win a squash match and then get cashed in on. Regardless, it creates some nice surprise moments, and any time I'm actually surprised by a wrestling show, I think it's a good thing.
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Well, a red "x" is NEVER good or wrestling...or anything else.
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Old 12-21-2011, 05:19 AM   #104
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@ anybody thrilla, My first reaction to money in the bank whore shit is it's a bail out for the creative team. We all love a good swerve, but if it takes a wrestler pinning a champion after a ONE FALL match concludes to do so... well, we have got to get a better creative team and a better brand of wrestling. I've been thinking "totally non-stop" on this one...
Were you a fan of the WWE Hardcore title, 24/7 rule?
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Does that mean a stoner's mentality is now higher than the new generation of posters?
Now? Most new posters have IQs so low you can't test them, you have to dig for them.

You'd have to be smoking the entire crop of the continent to bramage your dain that much.

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Explain how this is good for wrestling.
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:39 AM   #106
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Ass cunt bitchface tl;dr.

Thanks for the few quality answers I got from some of you guys
I hate to say it but Cpt. Fun was right. You're only getting trolled because you're a freakin idiot. Stevevicious hasn't been around that long and probably gets the same reaction. Ice Cream Bar is a moron. To break it down into easy to understand information: You're all viewed as trolls. This is because of the stupid shit you say. When you make a post, or a thread, you get trolled. This is because everyone here knows the thread was made with the intent of trolling. Which is exactly why you are so pissed off you're getting trolled.
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And to let us know that when you're nWo, you're nWo for life, brother.
Now, explain how you doing THIS is good for wrestling.
Peep, you can probably stop segregating yourself from the new posters some time soon. You've been here longer and posted more frequently, yet it seems as though you're still unable to grasp basic social skills.
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@ anybody thrilla, My first reaction to money in the bank whore shit is it's a bail out for the creative team. We all love a good swerve, but if it takes a wrestler pinning a champion after a ONE FALL match concludes to do so... well, we have got to get a better creative team and a better brand of wrestling. I've been thinking "totally non-stop" on this one...

This doesn't make sense. It would if the only time there is ever a swerve in WWE, is when MITB is cashed in, but that's not the case.

You still aren't addressing why it's bad creatively. You just keep repeating that it IS bad.
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Kind of makes a persuasive argument that it is lazy, since creative thought they could do that (and did that) without anything.

Saying it's not lazy because if they do other stuff it can work is kind of ridiculous.
I'm talking about the execution of MITB, not necessarily the concept. To this Harvard fellow's credit, yes, the creative team did get lazy with swagger, and just hand him the belt. But that was an isolated incident, and creative seems to have learned their lesson, as they've built up Bryan a lot better. Maybe not as well as they have previous winners, but we all know that Bryan's early cash in was due to Henry's sudden injury.

He was already feuding with Henry anyway, so while it wasn't perfect, I feel he was built up enough.
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So I suppose you could make the argument that the core concept is lazy, but it's irrelevant really.
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Peep, you can probably stop segregating yourself from the new posters some time soon. You've been here longer and posted more frequently, yet it seems as though you're still unable to grasp basic social skills.
The difference between me and some of the other people here is that I realize I'm socially inept. It isn't by choice, but it is what it is - both here and IRL. Not much I can do about it.
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:51 PM   #112
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Well, a red "x" is NEVER good or wrestling...or anything else.
Get a new computer you faggot I can see the pic fine and its 100% accurate. Keep that gay china man wrestling in the orient or in ROH not the big leagues
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Can you explain how it's bad for wrestling?
I may be exaggerating in saying that it's WORSE to be champion via MITB than to never win at all but it's definitely not a good thing. Winning with the MITB initially was fine because first of all it made sense with Edge's gimmick. He was GOOD but he was also a cheap opportunist cunt that made him even BETTER. And the way Edge did it made the most sense. It seemed smart when he did it. But then RVD actually cashed in for a match and won. This made future winners look like pussy faggots. And now everyone does it. They just wait until a champion is down and then get a cheap victory. This completely makes me feel like MITB winners could not win it on their own. They suck. They are shitty mid carders who win a spot fest match and then cheap ass their way to winning. It hurts their credibility when their title runs suck too.

JOHN CENA WWE TOP STAR also mentioned this in his Del Rio feud. He totally pointed out how MITB is BULLSHIT.

And one last thing:

MITB can still work the way it is used if a heel does it.
dANIEL bRYAN is a babyface who is praised for his wrestling ability and then he goes and cashes in his cheap ass MITB BS on ANOTHER BABYFACE....AFTER HE HIMSELF SAID HE WOULD NOT UNTIL WRESTLEMANIA and wins it?


He has no credibility and he is a perfect represenation of 95% of the stupid IWC that is nothing but dumbass socially awkward faggot white kids in their early 20s in their moms basement who also like star wars and post dumb shit on 4chan
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:40 PM   #115
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[QUOTE=tjmidnight420;3708623 You're only getting trolled because you're a freakin idiot. Stevevicious hasn't been around that long and probably gets the same reaction. Ice Cream Bar is a moron. Which is exactly why you are so pissed off you're getting trolled.[/QUOTE]


Well, that "moron" Ice Cream Bar has contributed something to this thread, unlike the troll that TJ and some of you are. You say I deserve to be "trolled" because I asked a significant question of how money in the bank is good for wrestling.



like I said, hammer me for being nWo for life. The nWo didn't even make that big of contribution in wrestling. (((Not like HHH. you fukkin WWE marks)))
The nWo might as well not exist. You guys are such pretentious prics LoL.





Sorry TJ, but Ice Cream Bar contributed to this topic. If only people were wrestling expert veterans like you! Wow are you sure HE is the "moron"? It seems to me that you've proven to be a clueless internet tough guy




Please quote my post and put "bitch ass cunt" or whatever it is you do, LMAO.



TJ, you are a worthless slob. When you get done explainig to me how money in the bank is good for wrestling, explain how much you want to fukk HHH; you're a joke.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:33 PM   #116
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Yeah Ice Cream man... why are you getting mad on the internet?

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TJ, you are a worthless slob. When you get done explainig to me how money in the bank is good for wrestling, explain how much you want to fukk HHH; you're a joke.
See it's like this boy. Money in the Bank is a tool for creative to change the world title picture as they see fit. Granted, they usually take the easy way out; if you can't see the possibilities for the whole scenario from a booking standpoint I don't have to make you look like a fool because you already do.
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See it's like this boy. Money in the Bank is a tool for creative to change the world title picture as they see fit. Granted, they usually take the easy way out; if you can't see the possibilities for the whole scenario from a booking standpoint I don't have to make you look like a fool because you already do.
but it damages the credibility of the champion these days and it is also damaging the credibility of the world championships by giving every last average joe a title reign
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:22 AM   #119
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Money in the Bank IN NO WAY "damages" the credibility of the Champion.

Short title reigns DO damage the credibility of the Champion.
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but it damages the credibility of the champion these days and it is also damaging the credibility of the world championships by giving every last average joe a title reign
That's all in the way it's booked, not the gimmick itself.
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