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Old 07-09-2015, 02:29 PM   #41
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Same story hurts Luger's chances as well. Remember when Triple H was talking about Chyna probably not going in because kids will Google search her checkered past? I feel like many will be overlooked because of that line of thinking.
But since the scandals involving Luger, has he not worked with WWE as part of the Wellness Policy Team? I'm just wondering if something along those lines would have portrayed him in a positive light. I'd put Luger ahead of Rikishi in the HoF any day regardless of how overrated he might be perceived as.

Elizabeth I'm not sure, had she been inducted with Savage she would have been a side note.


I think Triple H's Chyna comments were a mask. Let's be honest for as long as the McMahon's are involved in the company, the daugther of the Chairman isn't going to want induct her husband's ex-girlfriend/partner especially with all the BS and mud slinging that's gone down since then. The comments alluding to her porn career is to just cover (or add to) the fact that it's just plain awkward no matter how deserving she is.

If we were to do the morality test then a lot of personalities in the WWE HoF have dirt on them whether it be Scott Hall or even Mike Tyson.



On a side note if WWE wanted to induct someone still active/relevant then maybe Floyd Mayweather in the celeb wing? He may well be officially retired come next Spring too.
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:29 PM   #42
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Think I'm sort of a masochist cause I once watched a few minutes of her gang-bang video. It was in the middle of a wrestling ring and the actors were dressed up as famous wrestlers like Hulk Hogan. Scenes not showing Chyna were actually kinda hilarious.
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:30 PM   #43
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What do people think of my suggestions of Muhammad Ali and Liberace in the celeb wing?

Surely those were no brainers given their connection to WM 1?
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:31 PM   #44
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Ali would be depressing to look at and Liberace is dead.
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Muhammad Ali - ok, but Liberace?
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:34 PM   #46
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Think I'm sort of a masochist cause I once watched a few minutes of her gang-bang video. It was in the middle of a wrestling ring and the actors were dressed up as famous wrestlers like Hulk Hogan. Scenes not showing Chyna were actually kinda hilarious.
But just to add to my points, there's no chance (in hell) of Chyna going into the WWE HoF even if say DX were inducted they will avoid having to induct her.

In the grand scheme of things Playboy/porn could have been overlooked but being vocal about the chairman, his daughter and accusing his son-in-law of domestic violence etc.....I can't see them suddenly forgiving and forgetting and welcoming her back into the WWE family with open arms.

You wouldn't invite your ex over to a family dinner particularly if your wife didn't like her, the split was acrimonious and she made (unproven) allegations afterwards. That's pretty much what this situation is.

Credit to Austin for asking the question in line with his no holds barred attitude but I'm sure he knew what the answer was going to be.
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Ali would be depressing to look at and Liberace is dead.
Because they never inducted dead personalities into the WWE HoF?
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...not in the celebrity wing.
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It'd be a downer at the show and all he did was dance at WM1. The celebrity wing is just for PR, and inducting Liberace would generate little PR.
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Muhammad Ali - ok, but Liberace?
My argument against Ali going on besides whether or not he would be able to physically attend, he still does public appearances I think. The issue is that inducting Ali is an "event" in itself and WWE seems to style the HoF each year as revolving around one major inductee followed by the rest e.g. Warrior, or HBK, or Savage or Nash etc. Ali would perhaps remove the spotlight from that.

You'd argue Tyson and Schwarznegger were "big" personalities too who didn't necessarily remove the spotlight from the major inductee but those guys (with the greatest of respect) aren't on the same level as Muhammad Ali. It's like inviting the President or the Queen to a party and not putting them on the top table or making them the chief guest etc. Ali isn't a sideshow.


Liberace- more his involvement with WM 1 and also maybe it would be timely as it would be the first HoF post legalisation of gay marriage and WWE could jump on the bandwagon by portraying themselves as champions of equal rights etc. Indeed, Liberace never got the full credit he deserved as an entertainer (outside of WWE circles) because of his sexuality and times have (hopefully) changed.
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It'd be a downer at the show and all he did was dance at WM1. The celebrity wing is just for PR, and inducting Liberace would generate little PR.
If it was for PR then now is the right time wrt to the SCOTUS ruling etc.

The other opportunity would have been at WM 30 or when the Liberace movie came out i.e. when there was a brief revival in interest in the guy etc.
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My argument against Ali going on besides whether or not he would be able to physically attend, he still does public appearances I think. The issue is that inducting Ali is an "event" in itself and WWE seems to style the HoF each year as revolving around one major inductee followed by the rest e.g. Warrior, or HBK, or Savage or Nash etc. Ali would perhaps remove the spotlight from that.

You'd argue Tyson and Schwarznegger were "big" personalities too who didn't necessarily remove the spotlight from the major inductee but those guys (with the greatest of respect) aren't on the same level as Muhammad Ali. It's like inviting the President or the Queen to a party and not putting them on the top table or making them the chief guest etc. Ali isn't a sideshow.


Liberace- more his involvement with WM 1 and also maybe it would be timely as it would be the first HoF post legalisation of gay marriage and WWE could jump on the bandwagon by portraying themselves as champions of equal rights etc. Indeed, Liberace never got the full credit he deserved as an entertainer (outside of WWE circles) because of his sexuality and times have (hopefully) changed.
You know Liberace never actually came out and always denied being gay? Doesn't sound like an induction that would portray WWE as champions of equal rights.

Also, as someone mentioned already, this would generate very little PR, unlike Ali.
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WWE should induct Elton John. Have him do a song about HBK.
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Inducting a gay person just because of the gay marriage thing is dumb. The SCOTUS ruling won't even be in the news come next April once all the religious assholes find something else to fill their martyr complex.
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Wait, I GOT!!!! WWE should induct Rosie O'Donnell. She was a part of an iconic RAW segment.
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Wait, the Miller Catfight Girls had a match at Mania. Didn't they make out or something?
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So why have they not inducted Ali yet?
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So why have they not inducted Ali yet?
I bet it's because he's straight.

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I can't see Liberace going into the HOF.

although we do have him to thank for this awesome moment of him and The Sheik Ed Farhat
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So why have they not inducted Ali yet?
Probably because he is bigger than wrestling and he'd overshadow the whole ceremony. He's been physically downhill back when they started the HoF in 1993. He'd overshadow the wrestlers at their own ceremony and depress everybody by being a broken down icon. No win situation.
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its just a great photo.
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3 seconds later, Shiek sliced Liberace's dick off with a machete and made it into a taco and fed it to Liberace while drinking peach wine.
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3 seconds later, Shiek sliced Liberace's dick off with a machete and made it into a taco and fed it to Liberace while drinking peach wine.
Why didn't they take photos of that?
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Angry Miz Girl should be in the WWE Hall of Fame right jazzy foot?
Bill Cosby can "induct" her.
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Old 07-09-2015, 04:07 PM   #70
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Why didn't they take photos of that?
He dropped the machete on the cameraman's foot.
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Old 07-09-2015, 04:27 PM   #71
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I always want Owen Hart to go into the Hall of Fame but we all know that will never happen, so along with Owen, every year I want this and it never happens:

HoF 2016: The British Bulldog.
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Old 07-09-2015, 04:34 PM   #72
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Is there any way WWE could induct Owen without his wife's permission? If they inducted him, but didn't put it on DVDs and cut it out of the Network VOD edit, how much could she really sue them for? Is she really going to go on a news show rampage about WWE honoring her husband? Would bringing up all the issues surrounding his death really do much? Can she even do that after her settlement with WWE? She has every right to be eternally angry with WWE, and her hatred of pro wrestling is quite understandable. I just wonder what WWE is really afraid of legally with her on this end. Did she sue them over the Hart Family DVD that featured Owen back when Bret first returned to WWE?
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Old 07-09-2015, 07:31 PM   #73
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Probably because he is bigger than wrestling and he'd overshadow the whole ceremony. He's been physically downhill back when they started the HoF in 1993. He'd overshadow the wrestlers at their own ceremony and depress everybody by being a broken down icon. No win situation.
Kind of what I said before. But that effectively means there would never be a "right opportunity" to induct the man.
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Kind of what I said before. But that effectively means there would never be a "right opportunity" to induct the man.
Which answers your question of why they haven't inducted him and why I think he will never get inducted.
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Old 07-09-2015, 07:43 PM   #75
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:06 PM   #76
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Is there any way WWE could induct Owen without his wife's permission? If they inducted him, but didn't put it on DVDs and cut it out of the Network VOD edit, how much could she really sue them for? Is she really going to go on a news show rampage about WWE honoring her husband? Would bringing up all the issues surrounding his death really do much? Can she even do that after her settlement with WWE? She has every right to be eternally angry with WWE, and her hatred of pro wrestling is quite understandable. I just wonder what WWE is really afraid of legally with her on this end. Did she sue them over the Hart Family DVD that featured Owen back when Bret first returned to WWE?
It's been 16 years. It was a horrible accident exactly one week before my 18th birthday. I really think the two sides need to bury the hatchet and honor Owen's legacy and let him go into the Hall of Fame posthumously. Hell, he almost won the WWF Championship (albeit I believe it was reversed later)
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HoF inductees are often really silly. Fuck's sake they inducted that guy with a bird.
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Hope no young kids google Sable then.
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Hope no young kids google Sable then.
There's a difference between Playboy photoshoots and gangbang porn. Especially that by googling Chyna's porn kids might get the wrong idea of what a vagina looks like.
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There's a difference between Playboy photoshoots and gangbang porn. Especially that by googling Chyna's porn kids might get the wrong idea of what a vagina looks like.

Well as I said before the whole Chyna not going in isn't about the porn etc whatever Triple H says. It won't happen in this lifetime unless the McMahons decide to sell etc. The domestic violence accusation probably extinguished whatever faint hopes there might have been of an induction.

The closest we will get to some kind of Chyna tribute is if she passes away and they post an obituary of her.
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