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Old 06-19-2020, 05:45 PM   #121
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Seems for non-wrestlers, some in Impact's management have been accused of being abusers and Justin Roberts being outed for being a creep online.
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Old 06-19-2020, 05:49 PM   #122
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Who in Impact Wrestling?
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Old 06-19-2020, 05:51 PM   #123
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I believe it should be based on workrate.

It's like the whole Arn Anderson v Sid stabbing incident. Let's be honest, people side with Arn because he's a better wrestler, even though both were equally at fault.
I mean there’s more than a few people who give Benoit a pass because of his work rate so really at this point what wouldn’t people excuse
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Old 06-19-2020, 05:53 PM   #124
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Matt Riddle's agent and attorney posted a press release basically denying everything.

However it was also printed on sticky label paper (hey, we've all printed from the wrong tray before), so it's been deleted.
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Old 06-19-2020, 05:53 PM   #125
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Did this lawyer really print an official statement meant to be shared worldwide by a famous celebrity on a sheet of label paper?

Good god man.
lol, reprinted but his printer is still fucked and leaking ink/toner
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Old 06-19-2020, 05:55 PM   #126
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Riddle's Attorney is def Saul Goodman.
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Old 06-19-2020, 05:57 PM   #127
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No one in particular but more of a general condemnation towards Impact for hiding abusers who were in management.
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Old 06-19-2020, 06:01 PM   #128
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lol, reprinted but his printer is still fucked and leaking ink/toner
Jesus Christ has this guy never heard of a PDF. Just type the letter and upload it. You don’t need to print it first. And he didn’t even scan the letter. He clearly took a picture of it.

How much is Riddle paying this guy an hour.
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Old 06-19-2020, 06:14 PM   #129
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No one in particular but more of a general condemnation towards Impact for hiding abusers who were in management.
TNA’s always been a bit of a safe haven for whoever WWE wouldn’t touch for PR reasons. Moose, Bram and Rich Swann come to mind for that.
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Old 06-19-2020, 06:24 PM   #130
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WWE’s legal team got the ExposeWrestling Twitter account pulled down because Vince McMahon is one of the biggest sexual abusers in the business.
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Old 06-19-2020, 06:31 PM   #131
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Old 06-19-2020, 06:49 PM   #132
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First of all, you are a completely worthless cunt. This has already been established.

Second of all, what’s even the point there? What about those posts is even contradictory?

Thirdly, you seem obsessed with me. Don’t make me need a hashtag for you, creep. #TworuDave
Tell Cornette you said that, maybe he will forcelet you fuck his wife.
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Old 06-19-2020, 06:53 PM   #133
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I am guessing that one of the reasons a lot of this is coming out at this moment is a lead in from the recent accusations made against male tattoo artists in the UK, a guy I know had a few accusations against him and has been arrested. This led to further accusations and media interest.
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Old 06-19-2020, 06:55 PM   #134
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WWE’s legal team got the ExposeWrestling Twitter account pulled down because Vince McMahon is one of the biggest sexual abusers in the business.
Apparently it wasn't even actually associated or working with the #SpeakingOut movement based on those who are actually involved with the movement.

Also whoever was running the account suddenly started spreading fake lists around earlier. Either was hacked or done on purpose.
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Old 06-19-2020, 07:30 PM   #135
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I've always been surprised that Vince McMahon has managed to keep his head above water as much as he has.
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Old 06-19-2020, 07:32 PM   #136
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Tell Cornette you said that, maybe he will forcelet you fuck his wife.
Not my thing to have consensual sex with other men's wives. I'd prefer to fuck yours as you cry about it.

God, how many times do I have to take a shit in your open mouth before you stop trying to shame others for their kinks?
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Old 06-19-2020, 07:35 PM   #137
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AEW statement on Jimmy Havoc after an ex gf accused him of verbal and emotional abuse and a fan said that Havoc punched him at a bar
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According to Casey from Squared Circle Sirens, the stuff about Matt Riddle trying to file a restraining order might not be true.



Also another person has come forward alleging that Riddle was also manipulative towards her and cheating with her on the side.
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Not my thing to have consensual sex with other men's wives. I'd prefer to fuck yours as you cry about it.

God, how many times do I have to take a shit in your open mouth before you stop trying to shame others for their kinks?

Noid thinks forcing people in to sex is an acceptable kink? How far are you going to backtrack?
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One thing that will always bother me with the #MeToo stuff is this constant public outing of names by accusers before any charges have been filed.

Go and file charges before you log on to social media and start manipulating the public.

If the police somehow turn you away, fine, tell anyone that will listen.

The real Weinstein "effect" is that legally slander is now totally fine as long as it paints an abuser/victim scenario.
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This day of reckoning has been long overdue.

This is the same business that continued to employ Buck Zumhofe after being released from prison in 1989 for getting caught having sex with a minor in an abandoned barn. And that includes the WWF who he was doing jobs for into the mid 90s.
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Riddle just beat Styles clean on Smackdown.

Can't wait until Styles comes out 2 years later and says he didn't actually agree to that and Riddle made him lose
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According to Casey from Squared Circle Sirens, the stuff about Matt Riddle trying to file a restraining order might not be true.



Also another person has come forward alleging that Riddle was also manipulative towards her and cheating with her on the side.


Also AEW gave Jimmy Havoc indefinite time off from the company. AEW stated it was so he could deal with other issues on the side but also admitted to using the time to make an official decision on his future in the company. Wouldn't be surprised if the same happens to the other three who have been accused so far.
I don’t understand this logic. This guy seems like he’s saying because they were in a relationship that makes it less likely that Riddle would get a restraining order against her. The overwhelming majority of restraining orders are between former romantic partners.

This is the problem with people trying to flesh these accusations out on social media. Nobody knows what they’re talking about but they are always so confident they’re right.
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Noid thinks forcing people in to sex is an acceptable kink? How far are you going to backtrack?
No, you fucking muppet. I know you're deliberately trying to twist positions and exploit people's real misery to make a bigger cunt of yourself than you always make, but could it just be possible that you're just that fucking stupid?

Cornette using his power to force people to have sex = rape.

Cornette and Stacey liking to swing = kink.

You fucking mutant. You're supposed to eat shit, not spray it all over the place. Twat.
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This day of reckoning has been long overdue.

This is the same business that continued to employ Buck Zumhofe after being released from prison in 1989 for getting caught having sex with a minor in an abandoned barn. And that includes the WWF who he was doing jobs for into the mid 90s.


If it's as endemic as we all have heard then surely a better use of time would be for the accusers to make their individual complaints known to the law in a concerted effort to build a sound case.

Just making the accusation public one day is highly dubious, legally questionable and immensely prejudicial. I'd imagine cases can be won and lost on that sort of outburst.
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I don’t understand this logic. This guy seems like he’s saying because they were in a relationship that makes it less likely that Riddle would get a restraining order against her. The overwhelming majority of restraining orders are between former romantic partners.

This is the problem with people trying to flesh these accusations out on social media. Nobody knows what they’re talking about but they are always so confident they’re right.
Yeah, the more I see from people the more I lose faith in the legal system, honestly. It's got to be fucking difficult to find a reasonable jury.
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I don’t understand this logic. This guy seems like he’s saying because they were in a relationship that makes it less likely that Riddle would get a restraining order against her. The overwhelming majority of restraining orders are between former romantic partners.

This is the problem with people trying to flesh these accusations out on social media. Nobody knows what they’re talking about but they are always so confident they’re right.
Mainly all the TROs files through us are ex partners
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It winds me up because half of this shit will be true but people just want to have their moment in the face of all sound advice.
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If it's as endemic as we all have heard then surely a better use of time would be for the accusers to make their individual complaints known to the law in a concerted effort to build a sound case.

Just making the accusation public one day is highly dubious, legally questionable and immensely prejudicial. I'd imagine cases can be won and lost on that sort of outburst.
I'm not too sure how the statute of limitations work in cases like these
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No, you fucking muppet. I know you're deliberately trying to twist positions and exploit people's real misery to make a bigger cunt of yourself than you always make, but could it just be possible that you're just that fucking stupid?

Cornette using his power to force people to have sex = rape.

Cornette and Stacey liking to swing = kink.

You fucking mutant. You're supposed to eat shit, not spray it all over the place. Twat.
Ad hominems aside what you're saying is that we shouldn't #BelieveAllVictims?
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Yeah, the more I see from people the more I lose faith in the legal system, honestly. It's got to be fucking difficult to find a reasonable jury.
Juries are generally ok. They get thoroughly vetted under oath by both sides and the judge before they’re chosen and can be kicked off for almost any reason. Then they get read instructions about how to deliberate that are crafted by the judge and the lawyers for both sides. It’s not a perfect system but it usually works pretty well.

I am much more concerned about bad actors and reactionaries who shape public opinion. Those people are dangerous.
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This day of reckoning has been long overdue.

This is the same business that continued to employ Buck Zumhofe after being released from prison in 1989 for getting caught having sex with a minor in an abandoned barn. And that includes the WWF who he was doing jobs for into the mid 90s.
HHHs first match was against him
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If it's as endemic as we all have heard then surely a better use of time would be for the accusers to make their individual complaints known to the law in a concerted effort to build a sound case.

Just making the accusation public one day is highly dubious, legally questionable and immensely prejudicial. I'd imagine cases can be won and lost on that sort of outburst.
Eh, I get what you're saying, but legal avenues can be difficult. Especially if you're a woman or a minority. White dudes don't like hearing it, because everybody likes to think they're hard done by, but it's the truth.

I agree that when legal options have expired, by all means go public and whatever if you truly believe what happened to and all that, but it's a fucking terrible situation that needs to be rectified over time with precedent, better systems and what have you.

More and more you start seeing "trends" with these sorts of things. Like, uploading the "notes" of your accusations as an aesthetic choice. Even AEW released their official press statement on a note. Wtf? It's like it's a stylised choice when discussing this sort of thing. There are lots of sociological curiosities that surround these issues. Including people who like to stand outside it and act smarmy (like a lot of people on these boards), or people that inherently take victims seriously (which I do). It could be dangerous when it becomes trendy to catalogue perceived sexual improprieties online, and that should be something researched, and it's something that will change over time.
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I don’t understand this logic. This guy seems like he’s saying because they were in a relationship that makes it less likely that Riddle would get a restraining order against her. The overwhelming majority of restraining orders are between former romantic partners.

This is the problem with people trying to flesh these accusations out on social media. Nobody knows what they’re talking about but they are always so confident they’re right.
Seems he's implying their relationship was a lot more cordial on Riddle's side than what Riddle's lawyer is claiming.

Plus he probably would have heard about issues with a restraining order earlier since he's very well connected to the women's indies and NXT scene, so if he feels something is off, it probably is. Also revealed he was in a similar past dating situation as Riddle's accuser claims.
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There’s definitely “murky water” around some of these circumstances, and the “power dynamic” in relationships can lead to some questions being asked, as it is in a lot of these cases. Being in a relationship doesn’t mean you can just do wtf you like, some people end up in violent/abusive relationships for years before they conjure the courage to leave, or kill their partner, or often end up dead themselves before they get there.
100% agree with that. That said, there has to be a point where certain situations can't fit into the automatically guilty assumption.

Riddle can be a total prick, but if they had a relationship where they liked.getting rough with each other, and it only became a problem after the fact, it's just not the same as all the rest of the assaults.

Ending a relationship badly does not change previously consented acts into assaults. Of all the acquisitions, 1 stands out, and it's the only one I don't think is legit.

She said she chose to blow him because she didn't want to have sex. That is not the same as what the other victims had to go through. They were in a relationship both before and after that. I am not condoning what Riddle did, but being a prick, a bad husband, a cheater, and a bad boyfriend, but that doesn't mean it was an assault.
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I'm not too sure how the statute of limitations work in cases like these


That doesn't really matter as long as charges were filed or a complaint was made and recorded at some point.
Going public straight off the bat is the issue here.

You take your chances of you don't make the appropriate choice at the time.
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