TPWW Forums  

Go Back   TPWW Forums > w r e s t l i n g > wrestling forum
Reload this Page Wrestlers accused of sexual assault
Register Members List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-19-2020, 09:10 PM   #1
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,518
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio View Post
Ad hominems aside what you saying is that we shouldn't #BelieveAllVictims?
I'll use whatever ad hominem I want, you piece of shit. Stop being such a baby, you spiritless cunt.

Did I ever say "#BelieveAllVictims," or is that just how you represent me because it's easier to be a cunt? Do I need to do a throat clearing of "straw-men aside?" I don't think I ever attributed the quote "You know, she's probably lying" to anyone in that conversation, so how about you back off with misrepresenting me, just because it's all your dumb ass has?

What I've said, and completely stand by, is that victims should be taken seriously. And I've never said that any of these accusations should not be. All of them should be investigated for validity. And it's true that false allegations are statistically very rare. What is your fucking problem with that?

In the Enzo case it was a woman. Is that your issue? Or is it with me? Or do you honestly equate people pointing out that something like 90% of allegations had something to them with that being 100%? Are you sexist, obsessed with me or just fucking stupid? Either way you're trash.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon View Post
Juries are generally ok. They get thoroughly vetted under oath by both sides and the judge before they’re chosen and can be kicked off for almost any reason. Then they get read instructions about how to deliberate that are crafted by the judge and the lawyers for both sides. It’s not a perfect system but it usually works pretty well.

I am much more concerned about bad actors and reactionaries who shape public opinion. Those people are dangerous.
Yeah, you're probably right there. I've let a few bad (and probably anomalous) stories sour me. And looking at fans like that one you pointed out is making me seriously question whether or not the public is something I'm a fan of. It makes it hard to put good faith in people.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2020, 09:29 PM   #2
Savio
Spammy Certified
 
Savio's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,111
Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect View Post
Is that your issue? Or is it with me?
I just find the contrast between your posts in the Enzo thread and this one. 4 people come out against Cornette but sure lets attack Braddock's credibility since he's angry about Cornette trashing legless wrestlers.



Noid, when recruiting someone for a job normal people don't put sex on the table.
Savio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2020, 09:46 PM   #3
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,518
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio View Post
I just find the contrast between your posts in the Enzo thread and this one. 4 people come out against Cornette but sure lets attack Braddock's credibility since he's angry about Cornette trashing legless wrestlers.



Noid, when recruiting someone for a job normal people don't put sex on the table.
Sure, what contrasts do you think there are? I mean, if you make up I said #BelieveAllVictims then, sure, but I didn't say that. People are idiosyncratic by nature, by the way. Get fucking used to inconsistencies in human behaviour, and you're a dolt if you think otherwise, but I'd love to hear what you think is contrasting, because you're pretty fucking stupid and it's probably really easy to shoot down.

Yeah, recruiting people and forcing them to have sex with you is horrible. Not being the one to recruit them, not having sex with them and them still getting a big push in the company you partly own? Not as indicting. I mean, that's not spin, that's what he actually said.

As I said, it'll be awful but just if more OVW stories come out that corroborate these allegations. You'd think it'd be bound to happen now that the floodgates have opened.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2020, 10:07 PM   #4
Savio
Spammy Certified
 
Savio's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,111
Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect View Post
Sure, what contrasts do you think there are? I mean, if you make up I said #BelieveAllVictims then, sure, but I didn't say that. People are idiosyncratic by nature, by the way. Get fucking used to inconsistencies in human behaviour, and you're a dolt if you think otherwise, but I'd love to hear what you think is contrasting, because you're pretty fucking stupid and it's probably really easy to shoot down.

Yeah, recruiting people and forcing them to have sex with you is horrible. Not being the one to recruit them, not having sex with them and them still getting a big push in the company you partly own? Not as indicting. I mean, that's not spin, that's what he actually said.

As I said, it'll be awful but just if more OVW stories come out that corroborate these allegations. You'd think it'd be bound to happen now that the floodgates have opened.
1 person came out against Enzo and you were happy to jump on him. 4 people came out against Corny and even though "Statistically false claims are rare", lets wait until we get more corroborators.

Don't be shocked when people find your inconsistencies funny.
Savio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2020, 10:21 PM   #5
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,518
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio View Post
1 person came out against Enzo and you were happy to jump on him. 4 people came out against Corny and even though "Statistically false claims are rare", lets wait until we get more corroborators.



Don't be shocked when people find your inconsistencies funny.
Statistically false claims are rare. I'm not reversing my stance on that at all. Is there new evidence to the contrary? And as I said, it would be heartbreaking to me if these turned out to be true, like most allegations do. That doesn't mean I want them to be.

Which 4 people? Are you talking about the allusions by Janela and Marella? Because neither accused him themselves.

And what did I say about Braddock's tweet that wasn't anything he didn't say? He didn't accuse Cornette of making him have sex with his wife or anything. Really, this Phil Earley guy didn't even do that. It's like the OVW rumors have gotten swirled up with what these people apparently trying to take him down are actually saying.

That's why I'm saying I'm dreading any future stories -- because they might actually be like "Cornette made me have sex with Synn for a job." Which would be fucking awful. But none of these dudes is either saying that or was really ever in the position for that to be a realistic scenario.

I'm more upset because of the smoke to the potential fire right now. I'm not undermining anyone's credibility and haven't even once alluded that Braddock's story isn't true, outside the point about Cornette trashing him as a professional because I heard what Cornette said about him. Not that I'm not starting to doubt that wrestling fans and wrestlers can be completely fucked, and if they can do these things in many circumstances, they can probably lie about them too. The whole thing has me honestly really bummed out.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2020, 10:41 PM   #6
Savio
Spammy Certified
 
Savio's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,111
Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Savio makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect View Post
Statistically false claims are rare. I'm not reversing my stance on that at all. Is there new evidence to the contrary? And as I said, it would be heartbreaking to me if these turned out to be true, like most allegations do. That doesn't mean I want them to be.

Which 4 people? Are you talking about the allusions by Janela and Marella? Because neither accused him themselves.

And what did I say about Braddock's tweet that wasn't anything he didn't say? He didn't accuse Cornette of making him have sex with his wife or anything. Really, this Phil Earley guy didn't even do that. It's like the OVW rumors have gotten swirled up with what these people apparently trying to take him down are actually saying.

That's why I'm saying I'm dreading any future stories -- because they might actually be like "Cornette made me have sex with Synn for a job." Which would be fucking awful. But none of these dudes is either saying that or was really ever in the position for that to be a realistic scenario.

I'm more upset because of the smoke to the potential fire right now. I'm not undermining anyone's credibility and haven't even once alluded that Braddock's story isn't true, outside the point about Cornette trashing him as a professional because I heard what Cornette said about him. Not that I'm not starting to doubt that wrestling fans and wrestlers can be completely fucked, and if they can do these things in many circumstances, they can probably lie about them too. The whole thing has me honestly really bummed out.
Chris Bolin and Iain M.K.W. Moore

Phil did say that, in tweet 7 and Braddock said it was mentioned when they were recruiting them
Savio is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:40 PM.

Forums Home - TPWW - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin®