Official GTA: San Andreas Thread

[DS]

Well since G has decided to not come here and make this, he told me to. They put up the first screenshots today.

http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/ss/screen01.jpg
http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/ss/screen02.jpg
http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/ss/screen03.jpg

[DS]

Looks to be set in present day rather then in the 1970s like speculations said. I hope bikes are able to be riden in this one. Looks brilliant.

[Tony Montana]

Looks pretty cool but Im not sure whether those are real or fake, any confirmation ?

[Lara Emily]

Looks pretty cool but Im not sure whether those are real or fake, any confirmation ?
Look at the image link they're from http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/ so yeah I'd say they are real.

[Hired Hitman]

http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/ss/screen02.jpg

Oh my god, it's David Blaine :eek:

:shifty: The game looks good.

[Tony Montana]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/05/11/gta/gtasa_screen004.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/05/11/gta/gtasa_screen005.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/05/11/gta/gtasa_screen006.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/05/11/gta/gtasa_screen007.jpg

[el fregadero]

Those look pretty good.

[Hired Hitman]

Very modern = ratings.

[Ninti the Mad]

I guess.

I like the whole Mafia schtick than gangbangers.

[Disturbed316]

Looks good

[Oxstar]

I cant wait! i love the GTA series

[mitch_h]

I guess.

I like the whole Mafia schtick than gangbangers.

:y:

[el fregadero]

I guess.

I like the whole Mafia schtick than gangbangers.
They all looked like they were from the same gang, so there are probably other gangs/mobs in the game.

There better be, anyway.

[Scarface]

Looks good. Wonder what features will be incorporated.

[DS]

Early this morning, Rockstar released the first plot summary of GTA: SA, which confirmed its early 1990s millieu. Here it is verbatim:

"Five years ago Carl Johnson escaped from the pressures of life in Los Santos, San Andreas...a city tearing itself apart with gang trouble, drugs and corruption. Where filmstars and millionaires do their best to avoid the dealers and gangbangers.

Now, it's the early 90s. Carl's got to go home. His mother has been murdered, his family has fallen apart and his childhood friends are all heading towards disaster.

On his return to the neighborhood, a couple of corrupt cops frame him for homicide. CJ is forced on a journey that takes him across the entire state of San Andreas, to save his family and to take control of the streets."

All the information released by Rockstar indicates that the controversial Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas has not lost the rough-and-ready nature of its predecessors.

Credit goes to Gamespot

[Tony Montana]

I can't wait to play it.

[KleptoKlown]

hmm, thought rockstars exclusive with ps or whatever had expired, yet they're still releasing it on ps2 first before pc or xbox...

[Tony Montana]

Nah it is exclusive to PS2.

The only thing I am worried about is it will be getting too similar to The Getaway with all the different raced gangs etc which I didn't really enjoy seeing 100's of jamaicans running after me with machine guns so I doubt I am gonna feel any different doing it on GTA.

Another thing was the family mentioned. That is a new elemant to any GTA game which I am not sure it will make the game better or worse, have to wait till it comes out.

[Poet]

I want Yakuza back :(

[Jason Cage]

I sure as **** hope they won't put any 50 cent shit in there. Seeing as how it's based on the early 90's.

[Tony Montana]

Maybe some Eazy-E

[Hired Hitman]

Hey Jason Cage, you could always change the station when his song plays, i'll be kinda real for you ;)

[Sephiroth]

OMG, i want to play it right now :love:

[G]

Nice. :y:

[Y2Ant]

Early 90's, should have some hot music :heart:

[Hired Hitman]

yeah, music was good in the 90's.

[Ferocious]

yeah, music was good in the 90's.
Weren't 2Unlimited around in the early ninties??:shifty:

Yeah game look s great when it comes out it is undoubtedtly own the ps2 game charts like forever

[el fregadero]

Early 90's, should have some hot music :heart:
I'm expecting some Public Enemy.

[JJ Moore]

looks very.... i dunno. I was hoping for more of a jump in graphics, gameplay=fine, i was hoping for a better engine.

OK but am liking hopefully being able to ride bikes.

aswell as you should be able to swim.

[JJ Moore]

ooo music.... alice in chains, soundgarden and nirvana on the rock station. Aswell as GnR and AJFA tallica.

[Tony Montana]

Yeah if only you could swim on the older GTA games, I would have been invincible.

[el fregadero]

That's the point.

[Hired Hitman]

I think they should make you able to swim.. I mean, say the police are on you, you dive in the river, they sends boats towards you.. you'd get wasted by machine gun fire before you reach land :D, and when the cops aren't after you.. you have no reason to die in the river.. who can't swim :| have like shakrs or something that can get you, or if you hit it with enough force you die but if you just walk into or something you can swim.. I always thought it'll rule to drive a car into a river and bail out as it's over the water (H)

[Jason Cage]

Hey Jason Cage, you could always change the station when his song plays, i'll be kinda real for you ;)

yeah, i just thought they would mostly have like rap songs. Seeing as how it's about black people and stuff :shifty:

[el fregadero]

Living Colour was early 90's. :shifty:

[Nevermind]

You can swim in the upcoming GTA...

[DS]

You can swim in the upcoming GTA...
Don't spread rumors. There is nothing comfirmed about swimming.

If you're going to let swimming in, just make it so you're able to do it for like 10 seconds. So in case you fall in you can swim out.

[DS]

Ok update on features. The second picture is "suppose" to be the main character.

Also, GameInformer posted a 10 page preview with new screens. (They've told everyone to take them offline so I haven't seen the shots but when I find them...) Here's a summary on them.

Screenshots
- One pic shows the inside of a house, with rendered interior environments. There is furniture inside the house.
- One shows a helicopter with its searchlights on a runaway criminal.
- The others show how the main character can get fat, its a pic of him (fat) crossing the street with a donut shop in the background.
- One shows two other characters that are apart of the main character's crew.
- One shows a gang carjacking. Three guys with doo rag masks are carjacking other guys.
- One shows a four person drive-by.
- Another one shows a california type pimped out car.
- The last one shows the background of LA with a smog sky.

General
- The game is more serious than the others, but the elements of comedy are still there.
- A full staff of reasearch personnel at Rockstar have been studying Las Vegas, San Diego, and Los Angeles for months to ensure that they truly capture the feelings of these cities.

Location
- The game will not take place in Los Angeles, San Francisco, or Las Vegas. It will take place IN ALL THREE as well as the countryside in between.
- Los Angeles will be called Los Santos, San Francisco will be called San Fieero, and Las Vegas will be called Las Venturra.
- Each city is about the same size as Vice City.
- Not all cities will be open at the start of the game.
- The entire game will be about four to six times as large as Vice City.
- San Fierro (San Francisco) will have hills. This city is more driving based.
- You can drive from LA, through the countryside, up a mountain, into San Fran, and onto Las Vegas.
- Driving through the desert won’t be empty and plain with a couple cacti...it will be vibrant and alive with weird things to see.
- There will be a lot more buildings with open interiors.

Graphics
- The graphics engine has been tweaked. Smog will be present in LA, and real-time reflections on cars, windows, and mirrors, as well as new techniques like radial lighting, which allows for more realistic shadowing, and soft-shadow lighting for interior levels will be present.
- Everything in the game now has independent models for day and night to give better lighting and shadowing.
- The game will have ragdoll physics, or “impact animation” in Rockstar’s words.

Vehicles
- As for vehicles, there will be pimped-out lowriders, and 90’s versions of some GTA3/VC cars will return.
- There will be bicycles.

Story
- Characters from the past will return.

Gameplay
- In the Las Vegas city, you will be able to buy and build a casino - and then run it.
- You can then gamble your money in the casino.
- Your character can wield duel pistols and potentially other weapons.
- You need to eat to retain your stamina. If you eat too much fast food, you become fat and pedestrians mock you for being fat. You also run slower. To remedy this, you can go to a gym to exercise.
- You can now rob homes. The robberies will require skill and planning, however.
- You can recruit gang members and use them to do four person drive-by’s.

Weapons
- The choice of weapons will match the time in which the era of the early 90's.

Artificial Intelligence
- Enemy/pedestrian AI will be greatly revamped and they will think more logically. You can't beat someone to death in broad daylight and not have people notice and react.
- Your enemies will be smarter, which will make robbing houses take a lot of skill.

Music
- There will be a rap station, but there will be a variety of other stations as always.

Also, on top of that there is another list about GameInformer.

GTA: San Andreas Features are....
-Improved Targeting System
-Dual Weapons
-Swimming
-New Stamina Meter, Meaning you'll need to eat and maintain weight.
-House Break-Ins
-3 Citys = 1 State
Los Santos (Los Angeles),
San Fierro (San Fransico), and
Las Venturra (Las Vegas)
-You Will Play as Carl Johnson
-More Hills
-Improved AI
-Ability to Ride Bicycles
-Four-Person Drive Bys
-Ability to recurit new gang members
-Takes place in Early 1990's
-Improved Grahpics, as well as detail
-Improved Interiors

Those are both two different sources stating, mostly, the same thing, so I believe it's quite reliable. Some of it may be false but, as of now, this is what everyone can expect from Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

[DS]

Regarding the last post, those all seem to be "confirmed". If that's true, I can't explain how excited I am for this game. Reminds me exactly of how I felt when Vice City was released.

[Hired Hitman]

... oh... ****.. yes :drool:

[Hired Hitman]

Las Venturra :cool:

I'm gonna hang around the Black Jack tablesssss

:shifty:

..*cools down*

[Nevermind]

Don't spread rumors. There is nothing comfirmed about swimming.I wasn't spreading a rumour, I knew it'd been confirmed. My bad though for not backing it up with the updates you posted, which is where I got it from...

[el fregadero]

:drool: :drool:

Thank you, DS.

[Penner]

Shit, looks awesome.

The confirmed stuff is gonna make it awesome game.

[DS]

I wasn't spreading a rumour, I knew it'd been confirmed. My bad though for not backing it up with the updates you posted, which is where I got it from...
Yeah, that was my fault. I didn't think it was confirmed when I frist read the GI article and when I went back I saw it. Thanks for telling me.

[Azriel]

Sweet jesus that is awesome.

[tucsonspeed6]

I think they should make you able to swim.. I mean, say the police are on you, you dive in the river, they sends boats towards you.. you'd get wasted by machine gun fire before you reach land :D, and when the cops aren't after you.. you have no reason to die in the river.. who can't swim :| have like shakrs or something that can get you, or if you hit it with enough force you die but if you just walk into or something you can swim.. I always thought it'll rule to drive a car into a river and bail out as it's over the water (H)


In Vice City when I was pissed off I'd get a prostitute to hop in my car and I'd drive the sucker into the ocean and jump out at the last second. The prostitute would stay in the car and try to get out after it landed in the water. Drowned every time! Then I'd have fun shooting the car until it blew up.

[The Mask]

looks great. the 10 second swimming thing is a good idea. i'd hate to have to swim for f</>ucking miles to reach land.

[DS]

looks great. the 10 second swimming thing is a good idea. i'd hate to have to swim for f</>ucking miles to reach land.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. I know in games like Battlefield when I parachute in the water and I have to swim to land I just kill myself it takes so long. Would get old fast. And if you could swim for just a while the times you accidently fall in you have enough time to get out.

[Scarface]

I can see myself just cruising the highways between cities. I love the driving in GTA. I still cruise on Vice City occasionally and this game sounds like it could have some long ass roads.

[Scarface]

In Vice City when I was pissed off I'd get a prostitute to hop in my car and I'd drive the sucker into the ocean and jump out at the last second. The prostitute would stay in the car and try to get out after it landed in the water. Drowned every time! Then I'd have fun shooting the car until it blew up.

:lol:

[DS]

I would jump to the conclusion that everyone remembers how large GTA III and Vice City were so with that in mind: The entire game is approximately four to six times as large as either GTA III or Vice City.

San Fierro has plenty of hills and thus is more focused on driving. Specialty vehicles can be unlocked to bring new fun to the environment of the cities. (I would guess we're talking about some off road vehicles here...or something to that extent)

Because of some new streaming and rendering that Rockstar designed themselves, San Andreas will feature environments that are both more intricate and more interactive than Vice City.

The graphics engine has been overhauled and now has new techniques like radial lighting which gives more realistic shadowing. The engine also includes real-time reflections on cars, windows, and mirrors, and soft-shadow lighting for interior levels.

San Andreas will push the limits on interiors. While Vice City introduced the idea of interiors, most of them were nothing but detailed save points. In SA however, tons of interiors have been fully rendered out and made more interactive, for example robbing houses.

San Andreas will have scores of unique interiors, dozens of restaurants, and a fully operational casino. While many of these would have been mere novelties in the past, they now directly affect your characters progression, abilities, and even appearance.

Purchasing buildings was just touched on in Vice City. Now, it has a much higher importance. In San Andreas the idea of building your criminal empire has been taken a lot further, for example in Las Venturra you can buy, build, and run your own casino. Every part of the San Andreas society will be precise - from the rich residents to the ones living in suburban areas to the maniacs in the countryside. San Andreas will push the envelope on feeling more like a living, breathing world than its predecessors were.

The game is not about gangbanging. There will be a rap station, but as always there will be a variety of other types of music. No details on the radio stations has been released.

San Andreas will have some characters from past games making reappearances or being mentioned. There will be plenty of fun things to catch if you followed the stories of the previous games.

NPCs now react to you more intelligently with their new "brains." For example, before you could kill someone in the middle of the street in broad daylight and have no one notice. This won’t be the case in San Andreas. NPC intelligence now has a need for hour long recording sessions, which was only ten minutes in Vice City. San Andreas will have plenty of well known and some excellent unknown voice acting talents.

You will also be able to recruit gang members to aid you during missions, and one use for them is a four person drive-by. You can run your gang, but you won’t be checking on inventory or anything like that. You will run it in a way where you are kept in the story, through phone calls and speaking to people. In Vice City and GTA III you were either on a mission or you weren’t, and the story didn’t feel like it progress outside the missions. Well now the game changes all the time. While you aren’t on a mission, you can things that reflect your position in the storyline. You can take up side missions where you can learn a skill you need for a mission.

Money has a greater use than it did in Vice City. Outside missions you can rob homes to earn some cash. However, house robbing is nothing like carjacking. It will take a lot of skill and planning to pull it off.

As you progress in the story, you can open up new things to do outside missions, which are still tied into the story. In Las Venturra you can gamble your money in your casino. The way things unlock are more complex now. There are basic tutorials at the start of the game, and then on each mission you can learn a skill. So in every mission you will be doing something new, and the game will stay fresh and challenging throughout the story.

Your character also changes depending on what you do. There are plenty of restaurants around San Andreas and you have to eat to stay healthy and retain your stamina. If you eat fast food often and don’t go to the gym, your character becomes fat, and this changes the game. Pedestrians call you a fat bastard, your running speed and strength are low, and your character’s physics change. Being fat makes missions more difficult or in some cases not possible. To fix being fat, you can go to gyms to work out. Working out gives you strength and more speed, and your character model looks fit. Rockstar wants to make you feel like you have complete control over the story and over your character, and this example of his weight is just the tip of the iceberg.

The targeting and camera systems are being overhauled. While no details have been released, Rockstar made references to features in Manhunt, and promises that the targeting will be really fun this time.

All new animations have been designed. Hand-to-hand combat will be more improved to include more variety in stances, attacks, and control over the fighting. There will be new styles of carjacking. Swimming is now included in the game. Rockstar has put in a lot of new weapons with more variety, and also focused on revamping old ones to feel more unique. Your character can dual wield pistols and possibly other weapons.

The vehicle physics engine is being changed to improve car handling and open up the possibility of new types of transportation. Vice City ranged from a moped to a plane, and the range in SA is much bigger at both ends this time. You can even ride a bicycle in San Andreas and you will have to press buttons to pedal it.
-Game Informer

A lot of that I had already posted but there is some more in depth and new stuff there. Let's take a second to think about this. By the time the first information of Vice City came out they revealed very small details on the new features. Same with III. Yet, now they are releasing what we would conisder "huge" information from the first article. I believe this is just the beginning to what we can expect from San Andreas.

[el fregadero]

Five months. :'(

[DS]

San Andreas, Halo 2, Kill Zone, Star Wars Republic Commando, Metroid Prime 2

All come out in November. :( I have to get at least 4 of those.

[Tony Montana]

I heard that Tommy Vercetti is in SA as a middle-aged fat mafia boss although I got told by a friend who may very well have been lying.

[el fregadero]

How would your friend know this?

[SyRo]

Does anyone use a reliable site that they would preorder the game from?

[Hired Hitman]

I have HEARD some of those from people, but rumours to flow like water through the internet, so you wont really know until Rockstar give us the details.

San Andreas... I can smell the cash flow... can we say... 100's of millions (H)

[Tony Montana]

How would your friend know this?

I am not sure whether he knows it or he just heard a rumour himself.

[Nevermind]

Yeah, that was my fault. I didn't think it was confirmed when I frist read the GI article and when I went back I saw it. Thanks for telling me.It's fine, I know how you can sometimes get people who come into a thread and say things have been confirmed, and nine times out of ten they're lying. I'm the same as you. I won't believe it unless there's evidence.

As for the game, I realy can't wait. I don't play much on my PS2 anymore, and the only games I buy are Pro Evolution Soccer, Grand Theft Auto and Smackdown! All the rest I lend off friends. :D So yeah, I'm really hyped for this game. It's my favourite game ever. I remember years ago going to the video store with my mum so I could buy the first one. :$

[DS]

There is a chance that Lazlow could be coming back in this one. He sent emails saying that the answer is simple and he would leave it at that. I hope he makes a return in this one.

[Nevermind]

Does anyone use a reliable site that they would preorder the game from?I always use Amazon in a situation like that...

Cheaper, very reliable, and have always got the game to me very quickly...

[DS]

EBgames.com and Gamestop.com are what I would use unless you want to go directly from Rockstar.

[DS]

Ok here are the GI screens. If anyone contacts me, well I'll have to kill you all.

http://bbs.hnol.net/theimg/2004-5-15/1/20045151312055091.jpg
http://bbs.hnol.net/theimg/2004-5-15/1/20045151231967993.jpg
http://bbs.hnol.net/theimg/2004-5-15/1/20045151223949310.jpg
First off...LOL look at the name of the shop. Tuff Nut.
http://bbs.hnol.net/theimg/2004-5-15/1/20045151224740963.jpg
<img src="http://bbs.hnol.net/theimg/2004-5-15/1/20045151311247482.jpg" width=749 height=464>
http://bbs.hnol.net/theimg/2004-5-15/1/20045151225456867.jpg

[DS]

lol he looks like a fat Dr Dre

[el fregadero]

Sweet Johnson.

[DS]

*Sweet Penis

[G]

:|

[DS]

Yes?

[G]

Good Job.


I passed the torch on to a pro.


:y:

[DS]

Thank you, G. That means a lot. I expect you to help me make this thread just as big as the others. Get Optic to post here too.

[G]

Yes, seeing as he has about 1,000 of the posts in the other two.

[G]

It's gonna be HUGE [/Regis]

[Optik]

I bet I beat this before you two again....

[DS]

I got 100% on VC before either of you were even done.

[G]

say what

[Optik]

I got 100% way before either of you in GTA 3....

[G]

whatevvvv

[Hired Hitman]

I'm not going to rush into the missions straight away, I'm going to explore the cities, take mental notes about the good ways to go and where all the cool stuff is :cool:

[el fregadero]

That is not ":cool:", Hired Hitman.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'll probably go right into the missions, as I did with VC and GTA3.</font>

[Penner]

Hey optic who cares?

[Joe Kerr]

i love the four person drive by shootings...also the car jackers come in gangs and are more ruthless

[DS]

They need to have the Beastie Boys if they are going to do a Hip Hop/Rap station. I will actually turn it to that station if they do...and right off if 50 hits.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

NICE

I liked GTA3 A LOT better then Vice City

I DUNNO something about Vice City...I didnt like how it wasnt really modern :-\

[DS]

Yeah, I know what you mean. They both had their pluses. I liked III better in general as a game but I loved some of the features in Vice City. Loved them both though.

Notice the picture of the house break in. The guy in the middle is either crouching and walking or using wall cover. They said that it would have the gameplay feel like Manhunt and it had wall cover so maybe you will be able to use it in this one.

[el fregadero]

They need to have the Beastie Boys if they are going to do a Hip Hop/Rap station. I will actually turn it to that station if they do...and right off if 50 hits.
Word. Them, Public Enemy and Cypress Hill.

[DS]

lol Cypress Hill

PE I could see but Cypress Hill shouldn't even be mentioned ever again. GTA Superstar.

[Joe Kerr]

so whats the basic story line? I suppose i could read the ten pages in my game informer but id rather get a quick paragraph on the basic story.. i like you can rob houses now to.

[DS]

It's on the first page.

[el fregadero]

You can't judge a band by one song, Rueful.

[DS]

I can judge it when they make 3 versions of it. And seeing how the rest of the CD was terrible, I think I can make a sound conclusion.

[el fregadero]

Don't judge a band by one cd that was made after they changed the original lineup either.

[Optik]

Penner, please do not speak unless spoken to. Thanks in advance. :y:

[Hired Hitman]

I hope they have the GTA theme, you know the one, "Good shot kid, I think you got him... Good shot kid, I think you got him... weeeeeeeee (something :| :D) Hometown, downtown, speeding all around
an AK47 got the power in its barrel to
move any mother that gets in my way
just another power machine out on the freeway

Riding with me is my MC homeboy
knowing the rules ain't part of his program
finding the right way around this map
might be pretty hard cause he's ****ed on crack [or "Lips" in GTA3]

G - Grand Theft Auto
you gotta make a mark and move where you want to

T - Theft
determination
to steal what you can and run from the nation

A - Hey what d'ya say
we automate the sequence and speed for my getaway
take it to the edge, there's nowhere to hide
and call up the boys, let's go for a joyride
let's go for a joyride

"stop the violence from the police" you know my dad used to say but now he's deceased
he got caught in a jam, threw in the can
when the cops from Brooklyn said he killed another man
seek knowledge was my main game
to think about the law, to figure out the frame
just when I thought I knew justice, a cop behind me said
"You just been busted"

NYPD (NYPD)

LAPD (LAPD)

SFPD (SFPD)

don't **** with me [or "106" in GTA3 :mad: ]

I loved that song so much :love:

[Penner]

Penner, please do not speak unless spoken to. Thanks in advance. :y:
Hey.

Shut the **** up.

Thanks in advance. :y:

[JJ Moore]

hey has there been anyword on the multiplayer situation?

it woudl be cool to play LAN and 2 people could do the game together. or even mroe then 2 at least 4! :)

[TRADERall]

Hopefully this game will be coming on XBOX pretty soon, anyone know?

[deathtrap]

Itll be some time after PS2

[DS]

No word on multiplayer but I wouldn't hold it against them. Rockstar had some experience with online multiplay with Midnight Club 2 so...

And I would expect the Xbox version to be about a year from now at the earliest. If it comes out.

[Hired Hitman]

One australian website has the game for $99.99 :|!

The normal price is about $80-$85, and even though that's kind of expensive.. I'm not going to pay 100 dollars for a game :|

[el fregadero]

Yes, you will, HH. We both know it.

[DS]

What? I've never paid $80 for a game.

[el fregadero]

He lives in Australia.

[DS]

Oh. That it explains it mate.

That must really suck with the whole editing the GTA games.

[el fregadero]

It does explain it.

[Optik]

Penner, **** off. :y:

[Penner]

Please don't say it again Optic. I wouldn't want to get beat up by you.

[el fregadero]

ok enough of that

[ilt_undertaker]

Cant wait til this game comes out :cool:

[Penner]

Me neither. I am as excited about this as I was about Vice.

[Mighty Big Plug]

I personally don't think swimming will be in it....I hope not!

As a side note - GTA3, and VC have had swimming "confirmed" months before they were released...at least that's what 99% of the websites said.

But most of my friends think drowning shouldn't be in the game, you should be able to tread water indefinitely. If that's the case it could possibly ruin the game and I'm not just saying that. Picture how long it would take to swim from way out in the ocean to the shore....it's petrifying. However, if it were only for a few seconds or if there were a breath-o-meter (Toe Jam and Earl comes to mind) that would be cool because then when you slip off a dock you don't just die.

I personally don't see the big deal in swimming, it's never bugged me.

However, the game looks so damn sweet! I'm gonna be the fattest gang banging thug ever!

[DS]

I know personally that they never confirmed swimming for VC and I doubt they did for 3 either because nobody cared about it then. It was brand new to 3 so nobody was saying "I hope they have swimming because dying in the water is just stupid" and I know after reading many, MANY, sites for VC that they only had it as rumors. It will be in this one. No diving but just enough to get across.

[SyRo]

Yeah, i think i see both sides of the coin, i wouldnt like swimming to be a drag to the game, and i wouldnt like it to take away the feature of dying in the water in certain scenarios, since on previous GTA's dying by falling in the water was what made some missions difficult. But i hate the fact that in reality you wouldnt drown by falling in the water. I kinda like the idea of having an air gauge or whatever.

[JJ Moore]

hey it woudl be cool to see earthquakes happen you know.

[Savio]

I'm from the street bitch!......Do they have a web site up yet?

[Scarface]

Im guessing they're gonna cram this onto one disk. Gonna be a hella thick DVD though.

[DS]

Following 3 replies:
No

Who? Rockstar?

Yes, yes it is.

[Savio]

http://www.sviip.dk/uploads/pics/sascreen03e.jpg
Blue: We, finally some change from cars and motorcycels, bikes. And this is an BMX, I think we can expect some new types of Insane Stunt Bonuses.
Yellow: And yet another proof of old cars.

http://www.sviip.dk/uploads/pics/sascreen01e.jpg
Blue: I think we'll see more of our old weapons.
Red: Now also passengers do drive by shooting.
Green: NOw you can stand up drive by shooting, so you can shoot people on the other side of your position in the car.
Yellow: These cars has been seen in Vice City, I think we can expect more remakes of old cars.
Lightblue: Not long viewdistance so far.

[Savio]

Location
- Each city is about the same size as Vice City.
Will half of it be beach?
- The entire game will be about four to six times as large as Vice City.
Cool
- Driving through the desert won’t be empty and plain with a couple cacti...it will be vibrant and alive with weird things to see.
:y:
- There will be a lot more buildings with open interiors.
:y:
Graphics
- The game will have ragdoll physics, or “impact animation” in Rockstar’s words.
Like hitman? **** yea
Vehicles
- There will be bicycles.
Hope they get you unfat
Story
- Characters from the past will return.
I hope I can kill tommy
Gameplay
- In the Las Vegas city, you will be able to buy and build a casino - and then run it.
Cool Cool
- Your character can wield duel pistols and potentially other weapons.
Like hitman? **** yea!
- You need to eat to retain your stamina. If you eat too much fast food, you become fat and pedestrians mock you for being fat. :( You also run slower.
I'll kill them if they do.
- You can now rob homes. The robberies will require skill and planning, however.
Or you can get an AK
- You can recruit gang members and use them to do four person drive-by’s.
Like hitman? **** yea!
Artificial Intelligence
- Your enemies will be smarter, which will make robbing houses take a lot of skill.
AKA get AK
Music
- There will be a rap station, but there will be a variety of other stations as always.
Wow I wouldn't of thought that.

[Savio]

what if....
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/fanmade/fakes/razvan3.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/fanmade/fakes/razvan2.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/fanmade/fakes/razvan7.jpg

[Tony Montana]

what if....
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/fanmade/fakes/razvan3.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/fanmade/fakes/razvan2.jpg
http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/images/fanmade/fakes/razvan7.jpg

Fake :mad:

[Penner]

Fake :mad:
Obviously.

[Savio]

Fake :mad:
Thats why I said what if....and they also say their fake.

[DS]

Alright, this may or may not come as a suprise to a lot of you but online capability has the biggest chance it's had of coming to San Andreas. So keep your fingers crossed but as it gets closer to the release date we can be sure it will be told.

[Savio]

I also heard this was the last GTA for playstation...

[DS]

If you're implying it will be the last for the PS2, you may be right but probably not.

If you're implying that it will go to another system, you're completely wrong. PS2 has over 50 million more units then the Xbox has and that means about 50 million more games can be sold. I don't think they will be leaving any time soon.

[Requiem]

If you're implying it will be the last for the PS2, you may be right but probably not.

If you're implying that it will go to another system, you're completely wrong. PS2 has over 50 million more units then the Xbox has and that means about 50 million more games can be sold. I don't think they will be leaving any time soon.

You and your stupid numbers.

[DS]

You're just mad because SA is going to kill Halo 2 in sales. And you praise Halo 2 like it was Jesus himself who created it. Halo was only good on PC and even then it was a sub-par FPS. Vehicles have been done long before Halo came around.

[el fregadero]

And you praise Halo 2 like it was Jesus himself who created it.
No wonder Halo sucks so much.

[DS]

I bet he will fire back about how it's so amazing in multiplayer games with 16 people.

[el fregadero]

Get up, get get get down.

[Requiem]

You're just mad because SA is going to kill Halo 2 in sales. And you praise Halo 2 like it was Jesus himself who created it. Halo was only good on PC and even then it was a sub-par FPS. Vehicles have been done long before Halo came around.

I seem to remember you loving halo when you played, so don't act like you're high and mighty. You aren't.
I don't worship Halo 2, and you can't compare a FPS with a game like GTA. They have nothing in common except killing people.

[DS]

I liked it on the PC (which I stated) but on Xbox...it's boring.

On top of that, I never compared Halo with GTA. So thanks for trying.

[Requiem]

You're just mad because SA is going to kill Halo 2 in sales. And you praise Halo 2 like it was Jesus himself who created it. Halo was only good on PC and even then it was a sub-par FPS. Vehicles have been done long before Halo came around.


You brought up Halo, on a GTA thread, when Halo hadn't been mentioned before. The above sounds like an attempt to compare, to me. The only reason you like Halo for the PC, is because it was a lot easier than the x-box, and that was the only way you could be good at it. You even bought it on the x-box, because you thought it was great, and then every time you were asked if you'd like to go play, you went once, and after getting your *** kicked, you decided never to play again.

[DS]

First off, you brought up the numbers which we had previous talked about when we were discussing Halo 2. Therefore, you brought it up. Second, there is no attempt to compare anywhere in that post or any of them for that matter. I bought for Xbox in case I was to play multiplayer. I kicked your ass in the game every time besides that shotgun match. Either way I beat you. And on top of that, you would go play those things constantly and had a large advantage over me in the multiplayer. I don't know where you get off telling me how I felt about the game saying I loved it and that it was great. I never said any of those so stop assuming.

I didn't quit going because I lost to a couple guys that played daily since the game was released, I quit going because it bored the hell out of me.

If you're going to reply, which I have a feeling you will as you constantly want to get your point across, then just PM so it doesn't take up any more of this thread then it has.

[Requiem]

I commented on the numbers, because you get way too into depth with them.
You just said that every single true thing posted, was not true. I've seen a trend with you lately. You lie about everything, including the smallest, stupidest things just so you can save face. It's -really- annoying. It's stupid to even try arguing against you, because if something is blatantly true, you'll say it's not if you don't like the previous answer.
Saying that you kicked my *** in every game, and then saying I play a lot, so have a huge advantage over you, is rediculous in itself. Especially after I talked to you a long time ago about you telling everyone else how awesome you were.

And hell, if you're going to say that me bringing up the numbers was a mention of halo in the first place, then my bringing up the numbers would mean that you were comparing halo to GTA when we talked about it as well, because you did.

[DS]

Ok.

[Optik]

Yo Requiem shut the fu</>ck up your ruining the thread...

Neways, online play= :y:

[DS]

Ok they UK version of the OPM (Official Playstation Magazine) had released a lot of information on the game. There was stuff about 50 Cent being a part of it, possibly even the voice of the main character, online play/downloadable content, dogs in backyards, and lots more information. Just have to wait.

[el fregadero]

If 50 Cent voices the lead I will not buy this game.

:shifty:

[DS]

I thought you said it was because the game had blacks in it. ;)

[el fregadero]

I'm not Joe.

[Savio]

If you're implying it will be the last for the PS2, you may be right but probably not.

If you're implying that it will go to another system, you're completely wrong. PS2 has over 50 million more units then the Xbox has and that means about 50 million more games can be sold. I don't think they will be leaving any time soon.
Hmmm I heard they were moving to X-box.

[DS]

They haven't confirmed it, just people assume because the other two have they will. They might though.

[DS]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/914983_20040526_screen001.jpg
Check out his All Stars. This is going to be a great game. By the way, that's the image Rockstar sent out with Carl Johnson (main character) on his bike outside the Angeles Convention Center. That's where E3 was held.

Meaning he was at E3. It's a gag. Get it? Alright fine.

[Savio]

Bump*

[Savio]

http://ourworld.cs.com/LudaChris022002/wooo-004.jpg

[The Icon of Elisim]

I'm going to buy a ps2 just for this game

[Savio]

That what I said for VC (that and I saw the cartoon zelda and said that F'n sucks)

[DS]

Should have said it for III.

[Tony Montana]

Anyone know of any sites etc where I can find out more about the game ?

[Tony Montana]

http://ps2.ign.com/objects/611/611957.html

Good site for news etc about the game.

[Y2Ant]

I hate car jackers :mad:

[Savio]

GTA "Bomb Scare" Leads to Jail Time
Could this be the real danger of Rockstar's violent franchise?

May 26, 2004 - The Florida Union-Times today reported on one Grand Theft Auto player whose experience with the game led to fairly serious consequences.


Anthony S. Jones, a 27 year-old Jacksonville resident, was at home playing the game with a child he when called a co-worker at the Cross Creek Barbeque Restaurant. At one point, while on the call, he apparently told the child, "There's a bomb in the building. There's a bomb in the building. Everyone needs to get out!"

Jones has explained that he was referring to the game, but the words were taken very seriously by his co-worker, whose night manager notified police. The restaurant was evacuated and searched for explosives, though none were found.

On Monday Jones was arrested on charges of making a false report about a bomb or explosive, which counts as a second-degree felony, and carries a maximum penalty of up to 15 years jail time.

As of Tuesday, Jones is still in jail, held at $5,003 bail. His case is scheduled next month.

Please remember to practice safe gaming, kids: don't sit too close, take a break every half hour, and don't make false bomb threats in earshot of barbeque restaurants.

[DS]

Yeah I read that when it was released. Pretty stupid.

There is some guy giving out mission information but I don't know if it's true or not.

[el fregadero]

Jacksonville represent.

[Y2Ant]

LOL

[Hired Hitman]

... Shame.

[tucsonspeed6]

GTA "Bomb Scare" Leads to Jail Time
Could this be the real danger of Rockstar's violent franchise?

May 26, 2004 - The Florida Union-Times today reported on one Grand Theft Auto player whose experience with the game led to fairly serious consequences.


Anthony S. Jones, a 27 year-old Jacksonville resident, was at home playing the game with a child he when called a co-worker at the Cross Creek Barbeque Restaurant. At one point, while on the call, he apparently told the child, "There's a bomb in the building. There's a bomb in the building. Everyone needs to get out!"

Jones has explained that he was referring to the game, but the words were taken very seriously by his co-worker, whose night manager notified police. The restaurant was evacuated and searched for explosives, though none were found.

On Monday Jones was arrested on charges of making a false report about a bomb or explosive, which counts as a second-degree felony, and carries a maximum penalty of up to 15 years jail time.

As of Tuesday, Jones is still in jail, held at $5,003 bail. His case is scheduled next month.

Please remember to practice safe gaming, kids: don't sit too close, take a break every half hour, and don't make false bomb threats in earshot of barbeque restaurants.

I'm going to call up businesses in Detroit and scream "There's a freight train headed right for you at 90 miles per hour!", and if anything happens I'll say that my math homework made me act so delinquently.

[DS]

Ok a little update to get you pumped...I guess. Here's some confirmations from OPS2 UK.

The game will use a Dual-Layer DVD because Rockstar have already filled up a full DVD disk!
Carl Johnson can visit The Barber and get his hair cut into numerous different styles which the player can decide. Pedestrians and characters will make remarks on your hair, depending if it looks cool or un-cool.
There will be tumble-weed in the desert.
The only loading times in the game will be a short pause when you enter buildings!
Shadows can be used to hide yourself, to help pick off unsuspecting enemies.
Real sunlight is simulated, and shadows are placed where they would really be.
There are different sets of lighting for day and night which helps create a more realistic feel.
Weather effects have been added to.
There are various plants and places to see in the countryside, such as farms which keeps the game feeling alive.
Being a Gang Member only makes up about 15% of the total game.
Carl and the Orange Grove Families can take over areas and generate money from them. This is just one of the many things which can add to the replay value even after the game has been 'completed'.
If you drive a vehicle into the water, you have two choices, climb out of the window and swim to shore, or stay in the car and sink, where you will have a certain amount of underwater stamina.
Swimming will be involved in some missions.
There are parts of the game where you will work as a gang, and parts where you will work alone.
The game is now very non-linear, and depending what choices are made, it will be rare for 2 players to have the same type of game. The missions will be the same, but so much can change depending on choices you make.
There will be In-Breds and Degenerates in the Countryside and some missions will reflect the contrast between the towny and the country people.
The map is so big players will get lost frequently.
Characters have more bones which results in numerous different facial expressions.
There are now many more ways to complete missions. You could run straight in shooting, or sneak through the shadows and pick off the enemies one by one.
When the player only has one wanted star, hiding in the shadows should be enough to throw police off your trail.
The player must tap the X button on the bike in order to pedal faster.
You will have an accuracy meter at the top left of the screen, and the more enemies you hit, the better your accuracy will become.
The crosshairs which are aimed at people will change colour depending on how much health the enemy has. Green will symbolise almost full health, yellow represents half health, and red shows the character is almost dead.
There are Police Motorbikes and they will be used by the cops.
There are Quad Bikes to be ridden around the country side.
Some vehicles are made specifically for the countryside, while others are for the streets of the city.

I swear if this doesn't get this thread going, it's practically pointless until the game comes out.

[DS]

Also, while I'm at it, there are two gangs as of now.

Orange Grove Families (Carl's gang)
and
The Ballas (Rival gang, that could be them shown in the car jacking picture)

This is really sounding like a complex action/rpg game now. Going to be game of the year I expect and probably going to take my number 1 spot.

[Optik]

Yeh, Imma be playing this game for a LONG time....

[Savio]

The map is so big players will get lost frequently.
:lol:

[el fregadero]

Excellent news.

[Hired Hitman]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I can see this game winning game of the year :y:

[Tony Montana]

I dunno. The thought of being able to swim under water and hide in the shadows sounds too much like Metal Gear Solid to me :-\

Although I would enjoy getting chased by sharks in the water.

[Hired Hitman]

Tony, every game is becoming "too much like" other games, i.e. Battlefield1942/UT2004/Farcry & Metal Gear Solid/Splinter Cell

it's just how things are... I would rather them add those things to make the game even better, than to just leave it as it is and just add new missions.

[el fregadero]

What's wrong with Metal Gear Solid?

[Tony Montana]

Is there any mention of there still being tanks in GTA:San Andreas ?

[DS]

There has to be tanks. There's LA riots all the time where they have tanks out. On top of that, now that there is an extra star, this is going to be insane. Gang wars and an extra star? Give it up.

[Hired Hitman]

Extra Star?

Is that something stronger than the Army or new middle star?

cause if it's one more than the army... good luck getting out alive :D

[DS]

Nothing been said one what part it plays. I figure if will end up giving the last star something bigger then the army. International Forces or something like that I guess. Probably nothing that stupid but you know what I mean.

[el fregadero]

The Bat Signal goes up when you get the last star. :y:

[Hired Hitman]

Secret Service... :shifty:

[el fregadero]

Better than the "International Forces". :roll:

[DS]

You see that everyone? El Fregadero is nothing but a fizzle.

All that coffee and no reason to get up.

[el fregadero]

You see that everyone? I'm a microphone fiend.

I can use my custom title in a post, too.

[DS]

Stop it with your daggers!

[el fregadero]

Anyway, back to Batman being in the game.

[Hired Hitman]

1 Star: Slackish Cops
2 Star: Cops
3 Star: Undercover Cops
4 Star: Swat
5 Star: FBI
6 Star: Army

what is and where could the other star go?

[el fregadero]

Maybe add riot control police as the fourth star and move the others up a notch.

[el fregadero]

They should do something to make it were the police go after other people for shooting guns, too, instead of the police only hating me. They should also make something like the "Most Wanted List", so after a while, as your "reputation" got higher, you would basically have one star at all times.

[Hollywood Red]

I remember there being "codes" to display your media level meter in VC but they didn't work... unless I was doing something wrong, I'll assume it was poppycock, but that's something I wouldn't mind seeing in San Andreas.

When you finally do get Busted or Wasted, rather than how they had various soundbites of Ken Rosenburg pleading your innonence in VC, they could have mock paper headlines or CNN coverage...

[DS]

The code worked on the PC version.

That one star all the time thing would suck.

[el fregadero]

Not when you first start out, but if you, say kill alot of people and don't get busted, cops would still act suspicious around you, even after you would technically have zero stars.

[DS]

Act suspicious? Like walking by you and looking?

[Hired Hitman]

I like the mock paper headlines or CNN coverage, idea :cool:

[el fregadero]

Act suspicious? Like walking by you and looking?
Like following you around, waiting for you to do something illegal.

Basically how the cops act now towards blacks.

[DS]

Couple new notes while I'm updating:

Cars accumulate dirt.
Tractors are confirmed.
Corrosion of cars.
Haircuts will be costing money in the game.
Advanced order placing for pizza will be present. You can order a small slice of pizza with a drink, up to a full rack with everything on it.
Each drive-by member will be able to select their own individual targets.
You chose if you're "good" or "evil".

Now, probably the worst news of the game (although I saw it coming), there will be NO multiplayer in San Andreas. They finish this and they're taking a break from GTA, probably (hopefully not) until the PS3.

[The Lone Drinker]

I am glad to see you have the choice of being good or evil because I rather not be the KKK's and Nazi's version of the stereotypical black man.

I'll be playing the part of a struggling black man trying to survive in a cruel and harsh white world.

[I am a white boy myself so me saying this is really funny.]

I think the game looks super cool. Although I really don't like the idea of breaking into people's houses. That's a little disturbing.

In games like GTA III, Vice City, Manhunt, The Suffering, etc.....I only killed bad guys.

And in the previous Grand Theft Auto games, I only stole cars from Mafia guys and other gang bangers.

At first I was thinking that I would have trouble relating to this homeboy in this game and won't feel too bad if he gets injured and/or killed. But I'll make him into a good guy now.

BTW: Does anyone know if there will be any Italian Gangster characters in the game?

I'm kind of worried that the wiseguys won't be in it because I have not heard much info on them in regards of the newest GTA.

I read on Frank Vincent's official website that he is returning to do the voice of Don Salvatore but that's it, and he may be the only Italian to show up and it could just be a brief cameo apperance.

I don't believe The Italians operate on the west coast, but maybe in Las Vegas. So come on, bring on the Mob.

Then again, they have been in every other game so perhaps the Grand Theft Auto people want try something new. But you can't have a Grand Theft Auto video game without "The Family". ;)

[Optik]

All I can say after reading that post is...

...:|

[Oxstar]

I hope they add midgets or a circus so you can kill clowns

[DaveWadding]

I hope they add midgets or a circus so you can kill clowns
They should have the Circus, Circus hotel thats in Vegas just for that. :D

[DS]

They have dogs this time, a big controversy from Vice City. I bet small children are next. And by small I mean el fregadero size. And by that I mean they have tiny penises. And by that I mean they indent.

*by small children I mean kids.

[Savio]

1 Star: Slackish Cops
2 Star: Cops
3 Star: Undercover Cops
4 Star: Swat
5 Star: FBI
6 Star: Army

what is and where could the other star go?
1 Star: Slackish Cops
2 Stars: Cops
3 Stars: Undercover Cops
4 Stars: Heli
5 Stars: Swat
6 Stars: FBI
7 Stars: Army
Or maybe switch 3 and 4

[el fregadero]

In games like GTA III, Vice City, Manhunt, The Suffering, etc.....I only killed bad guys.
I don't feel like working with the rest of the post, but it must have been pretty boring if you only killed the "bad guys".

[el fregadero]

They have dogs this time, a big controversy from Vice City. I bet small children are next. And by small I mean el fregadero size. And by that I mean they have tiny penises. And by that I mean they indent.

*by small children I mean kids.
No need to get personal. :'(

[G]

what's all this small penis talk

[el fregadero]

They have steroids in this one, supposedly if you use them too much your penis shrinks.

[G]

that's great

[Optik]

G loves anything that has to do with penis....

[G]

"u look hard butchu really soft u tryin 2 make me mad butchu juss pissed me off shit i aint scared u nigga i aint scared of dem hoez n i deffiantly aint scared of dat fake tshirt ass nigga who think he swole"

[Optik]

"No Information Provided"

[DS]

I was trying to drag Michael Jackson's attention with the small children/penis talk.

[G]

Michael Jackson is weak.




Last week.

[G]

*rimshot*

[DS]

I thought you said your appointments were classified.

[G]

way to go

[DS]

You are almost equal good that Blues Brothers 2000

[G]

Still on fire I see. :roll:

[DS]

:| Get out of my thread.

[G]

Yours?

[Savio]

Oooo Heel turn.

[DS]

I believe that's what the VG forums page says. Go bump the Vice City thread.

[G]

Why you gotta bring up the past?

Memories :'(

[DS]

:( The GTA III thread was deleted. :'(

[G]

MAMA NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[DS]

So is the Vice City thread. :(

[G]

Sons of bitches :mad:

[DS]

http://www.vgchat.com/showthread.php?p=28489#post28489

Check it out. I will find who that is. I bet it's you G, you bastard.

[G]

LOL, don't look at me

[Optik]

Bebop
0mg 1m b4nn3p




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I didnt know the latest GTA outing would include the 'fat black gehtto scene'. I'm not racist of course I just hate that look. What with all the bandanas. basketball jerseys, 'bling-bling', slang like 'off the hook' and pimp crap.

[Optik]

:|

[G]

Hey look, Greg already has a fan.

[DS]

Say mofo, butter layin' me to the bone, jackin' me up.

Cutty say can't hang!

[Optik]

That guy said he HATES that stuff. I dont see how hes a fan of me... Also I love how he comes out and says hes not a racist...

[DS]

When his 38-caliber revolver failed to fire at his intended victim during a holdup in Long Beach, California, would be robber, James Ellliot, did something that can only inspire wonder. He peered down the barrel and tried the trigger again. This time it worked.....

[G]

lol, the other one was better though.

[DS]

A man who shoveled snow for an hour to clear a space for his car during a blizzard in Chicago returned with his vehicle to find a woman had taken the space. Understandably, he shot her.

[G]

LOL

[DS]

Check this one out...

An American teenager was in the hospital recovering from serious head wounds received from an oncoming train. When asked how he received the injuries, the lad told police that he was simply trying to see how close he could get his head to a moving train before he was hit.

[G]

Not as funny :(

[Optik]

:|

[Optik]

So um lets talk about gta... :|

[G]

A thief burst into a Florida bank one day wearing a ski mask and carrying a gun. Aiming his gun at the guard, the thief yelled, "FREEZE, MOTHER-STICKERS, THIS IS A **** UP!" For a moment, everyone was silent. Then the snickers started. The security guard completely lost it and doubled over laughing.

It probably saved his life, because he'd been about to draw his gun. He couldn't have drawn and fired before the thief got him. The thief ran away and is still at large. In memory of the event, the banker later put a plaque on the wall engraved with the words, "Freeze, mother- stickers, this is a ****-up!"

[DS]

Not much new news. The girl that turns on you at the beginning of GTA III might be back in this one. On the Liberty Tree website (the teaser site for GTA III) they say something about "Los something" and "San someone" or something close to that. So she might be back. And they might put up a teaser site for San Andreas at the beginning of July.

[Optik]

Whats the deal with Donald Love? Maybe he will make a return and maybe Ray? where was he in Miami...

[G]

Ray Ray

[DS]

There's a character in DRIV3R named Timmy Vermicelli and he wears floaties, I guess because Tommy can't swim. Pretty funny but I hope they get it when San Andreas comes out.

[Optik]

So I can't wait to break into houses and get attacked by a dog and blow away the dog and blast the owner....

[The Lone Drinker]

So I can't wait to break into houses and get attacked by a dog and blow away the dog and blast the owner....

Ah-hah! So that is why you were a jerk to me in response of my post up there.

At first, I wasn't sure what I said that offended you exactly. Me wanting the Italian Mafia in the game or me saying I was going to be a good guy instead of the KKK's version of the stereotypical black man like most of you are probably going to be.

I guess I hit a little to close to home since you are probably African-American yourself [or just a wannabe white boy who wishes he was black].....and you know I am telling the truth and that your whole ghetto macho way of life is trash.

Honestly, games like the newest GTA that is coming out this fall make the black man look very bad and it will only continue to hold the young black man back in getting equal rights.

The gangsta stuff is why most hillbillies hate blacks and why people with all the power want to keep black people down, because they all think they are dangerous thugs who want to break into their homes, rape their women, steal their cars, and kill them.

And of course any black man who is not a gang-banger is an Uncle Tom in the homeboy's eyes.

I have to serious wonder though if some of the hard-core GTA fans are sane people since they clearly enjoy killing innocent video game characters and committing violent crimes. Video game or not. I mean, what's next? Killing people for real? That seems to be the next step.

And anytime guys like me complain about it, we get hated on. I ain't no wussy. Your character can still be hard-core, sick, and violent in these video games without killing good characters.

Like I said, when I play games like The Suffering, Manhunt, and the GTA games.....all bad guys better beware.

[DaveWadding]

Shut the fuck up. :)

[The Lone Drinker]

Shut the fuck up. :)

Hey, yo man! Straight up yo' B! U don't b talkin' to me like dat G! What's up man? Whatca U frontin' 4?

[DaveWadding]

Hey, yo man! Straight up yo' B! U don't b talkin' to me like dat G! What's up man? Whatca U frontin' 4?
Maybe there's a reason you drink alone.

[The Lone Drinker]

Maybe there's a reason you drink alone.

No, it's because I don't like sharing my beer with others.

[Optik]

The kid is brainless Dave...Nothing new though every GTA:San Andreas Board/Thread I have been to has these type of idiots...

[The Lone Drinker]

The kid is brainless Dave...Nothing new though every GTA:San Andreas Board/Thread I have been to has these type of idiots...

Kid? If I was a kid, I couldn't drink. ;)

And if I am so brainless, why not debate this with me? Let me guess. Ya don't want to make this thread into a debate thread. Well, you could always PM me but you won't because you know I am right.

And hey, I did not even start this. You started it by dissing on my first post on here. Just don't be hating on me because I make the choice of being a good guy in my video games that doesn't get off on killing old ladies in video games and beating up women and breaking into houses.

[DaveWadding]

Seriously, go kill yourself.

[DS]

And hey, I did not even start this. You started it by dissing on my first post on here. Just don't be hating on me because I make the choice of being a good guy in my video games that doesn't get off on killing old ladies in video games and beating up women and breaking into houses.
That's just the point though. It's a videogame. This isn't real life we were discussing. Nobody goes out and beats old women and breaks into their house, that's the point of a videogame. It gives you the ability to do stuff you can't or shouldn't do in real life. People don't play Halo to fix the corrupt world after it was taken over by aliens. They play the game to beat the shit out the little fuckers.

Nobody is making fun of you because of the choice you decide to make in a game, that's why there is the ability to make such. You will still have to be "the stereotypical black" because you will still have to commit crimes and you will still have to murder people. Who cares what the graphic looks like, you're not commiting the crime. If you don't want to play the game like someone else, then fine. Just don't make a huge deal about it.