NFL 2008 Off Season Thread

[Kris P Lettus]

Not really pissed, just think it's ridiculous to argue semantics about an awesome catch.. It was an awesome catch regaurless of where it was or who it was..

Looks weird seeing Shockey in a Saints uniform and with a different number.

Yeah, switched to his college number apparently.

Yeah, Mark Campbell, another TE who prolly won't even make the squad now, is number 80.. Plus I think Shockey wants a fresh start..

Anyway, second practice wasn't as good.. Half pads (shoulder pads and helmets only).. Alot more technical drills.. Saw alot of the DBs, but I picked the wrong side cause most of the action was on the other practice field.. Shockey was out there but didn't wear shoulder pads and didn't do anything full speed.. Same with Brian Young..

Going back in the morning..

Who Dat??

[Gonzo]

I'll probably try to make it down to the G-Men camp this year. I usually go a couple times a year as its only a half hour away. Place is going to probably be a zoo this year tough since they're the Superbowl champions and everything. :cool:

[ClockShot]

Broncos WR Brandon Marshall got called to the principal's office to have a chitchat about his off field troubles.

Uh-oh.............

[OssMan]

Is there any way to at least get the Yankees radio? I don't really like John Sterling but that is better than nothing

Also I'll be able to see the Jets somehow, just would rather not do it in some crowded restaraunt
MLB.tv please nerf. also www.thegamelive.com used to have live feeds of all baseball and football games. i havent been there in a while though.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

welcome to my world Nerf. You said you're going to Clemson right? That's near me...kind of. No Jets, no Yankees :(

What AFC team do you guys get on TV all the time? I can't think of what would be the closest AFC team or is that not how it works everywhere? Because around here they play the Patriots (obviously) and the New York Giants on FOX like every fucking week since they are the closest NFC team.

[SammyG]

We get the Hawks all the time on FOX, and a lot of the Chiefs/Broncos for some reason.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well that makes sense since that is the closet NFC team and the two closest AFC teams to you right?

[OssMan]

http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

NERF will get to see Pats/Jets week 2

[VonErichLives]

What AFC team do you guys get on TV all the time? I can't think of what would be the closest AFC team or is that not how it works everywhere? Because around here they play the Patriots (obviously) and the New York Giants on FOX like every fucking week since they are the closest NFC team.

another reason they show the Giants as much as possible is before you and I were born and there were no patriots this whole area were Giants fans.

hence why years back when the Giants weren't that good we'd still get Giants games instead of the national game.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah I guess my Grandfather was a Giants fan (passed away before I was born) and so are a few of the old dudes who work at the same place as me. Doesn't mean I wanna see the fucking Giants every week though, gets a little old. Also seems like the Jets are on a lot here, one of the most boring teams on the planet, Chad Pennington? Come on, the guy can throw like the ball like 15 yards

[Nervous Ferret]

I (still) blame Paul Hackett

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Every week here is the same...Giants, Jets, Patriots...it makes sense, but its brutal for me when the Giants are on bye week. And if there's ever a game on during the day not involving those 3 teams, it usually ALWAYS involves the Cowboys. America's team my ass.</font> :mad:

[RP]

Colts, Packers, Patriots, Bears, Vikings. Those are the teams i see the most in Indianapolis. Obviously i see every Colts game on TV.

[Loose Cannon]

in North/South Carolina we get the Panthers obviously and the Falcons. Lot of Bucs games too at times. I'll see maybe 2 or if lucky, 3 Jets games a year

[Loose Cannon]

oh but the problem is last year they only played 1 game on Sunday for like 9 weeks. terrible

[VonErichLives]

Colts, Packers, Patriots, Bears, Vikings. Those are the teams i see the most in Indianapolis. Obviously i see every Colts game on TV.

wasn't there an issue, maybe Arizona a few years ago they hadn't sold out a MNF game so the league was going to black them out locally, since the NFL has the no-sellout, no-local TV policy...

[VonErichLives]

ok, someone hose down NERF before we discuss this one.

The Jets have asked permission from the Packers to talk with Brett and see if he has an interest in playing in NY next season.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Around here in West TN, we usually get more of the AFC/NFC South games than anything.

[SammyG]

God Damnit, Steven Jackson holdin' out.

Favre to Jets?

[Kris P Lettus]

This mornings practice was OK.. They were on the lower field cause they were running more of a scrimmage based practice.. Jason Craft picked off Brunell and it would've been a pick 6.. Skyler Green made a nice catch.. I was late so I didn't see the whole thing..

Did get to meet Will Smith after practice though, in the rain..


Brees and Shockey

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LB's

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Grouped up after practice

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Scrimmage

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[Gonzo]

Yeah I guess my Grandfather was a Giants fan (passed away before I was born) and so are a few of the old dudes who work at the same place as me. Doesn't mean I wanna see the fucking Giants every week though, gets a little old. Also seems like the Jets are on a lot here, one of the most boring teams on the planet, Chad Pennington? Come on, the guy can throw like the ball like 15 yards

The Giants are the regional team that would be broadcast on the FOX affiliate. It only makes sense to put them on FOX every week over every other team. It would kind of be retarded not to broadcast the local team in exchange for somebody else.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah whats I don't agree with it. I don't really like how its broken up into regions. I don't wanna watch the Giants every week just because I live like 4 hours from New York.

[Gonzo]

Honestly though could you think of any other way to do it? How retarded would it be if a region couldn't watch their own team when that region is likely to contain the largest portion of that team's fan base?

The only other way I can see it being done is by putting the biggest game on TV. Imagine if the Pats sucked and never got on TV, and them being your favorite team, you never got to watch them and you live in Mass. That would be retarded.

Like VEL said, the whole Northeast was G-Men country before the Pats came around. So at least in this area it all makes sense.

[Crimson]

That's where Directv comes in, and why I get it. Overhere they put the dreaded Raiders on every time..if I kept watching their games I think i'd stop watching football.

[Kris P Lettus]

We get Saints and Titans coverage.. Then they do it by Mississippi ties alot cause we get Giants, Colts, and Packers games if they didn't effect the Saints/Titans shit..

Jags games a good bit too..

[VonErichLives]

Skyler Green made a nice catch.. I was late so I didn't see the whole thing..



nice catch or huge grab?


Did get to meet Will Smith after practice though, in the rain..



sorry, all I can picture is Krispy pushing his way through little kids trying to get autographs to get to the players...

I'm sure you're not doing that, it's just the image that pops into my head...

[Kris P Lettus]

Good to know you are thinking about me on a Friday night..

[Triple A]

Jets might get Favre... I do not know. I want it though.

[Kris P Lettus]

Supposedly he will be at Packers camp on Sunday..

[SammyG]

What the FUCK Steven Jackson, piece of SHIT. Turning down a huge offer, that would make him one of the top 5 paid backs in the league. Fucking douchebag. Hold-out now.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Honestly though could you think of any other way to do it? How retarded would it be if a region couldn't watch their own team when that region is likely to contain the largest portion of that team's fan base?

The only other way I can see it being done is by putting the biggest game on TV. Imagine if the Pats sucked and never got on TV, and them being your favorite team, you never got to watch them and you live in Mass. That would be retarded.

Like VEL said, the whole Northeast was G-Men country before the Pats came around. So at least in this area it all makes sense.That's my point, I don't understand why there is "regional broadcasts" Just because I live in the Northeast region is doesn't mean I wanna see the Giants play every week. I don't understand the thing about if the Patriots sucked because that isn't my point at all, I'm not saying they shouldn't show the hometown team in the local market so I dunno. As for there being old timers in the northeast who are Giants fans (probably at least 70+ years old now) I'll give you that one but I really don't see that justifying seeing the same NFC team every week when there is a lot of other good teams I barely ever get to see unless they play on a national broadcasted game

[Gonzo]

lol I don't understand how you can not see how this is the most logical concept for NFL games. You of all people.

What I'm saying about the Pats is this: If for example they were a bad team, and the NFL chose to broadcast the top tier teams instead of the regional teams then you would never see your own favorite team, the Patriots, in their own local area. Broadcasting like that is idiotic. It only makes sense to show the team(s) that are in the area. Like I said before, more than likely the largest portion of a team's fan base is going to be around the area they are from. Not broadcasting their games in those areas is retarded. People would go crazy and the NFL would nose dive if people couldn't watch their favorite team(s) from their own area.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I hate broadcasting rules simply because they've decided that people in Ohio would much rather watch a Ravens game than a Colts game. I understand they think Browns and Bengals fans want to watch their division rival play but that is fucking stupid. Indianapolis is an hour and a half away from Cincinnati. Baltimore is eight hours away. Indy has one of the most interesting teams to watch. Baltimore is boring as shit. I had two roommates from Indianapolis last year who could not watch a handful of Colts games even when the Bengals and Browns weren't playing because CBS went to the Ravens game. Fuck that.

[Kris P Lettus]

To anyone who's gone to your team's training camp, do they sell cold beer there??

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol I don't understand how you can not see how this is the most logical concept for NFL games. You of all people.

What I'm saying about the Pats is this: If for example they were a bad team, and the NFL chose to broadcast the top tier teams instead of the regional teams then you would never see your own favorite team, the Patriots, in their own local area. Broadcasting like that is idiotic. It only makes sense to show the team(s) that are in the area. Like I said before, more than likely the largest portion of a team's fan base is going to be around the area they are from. Not broadcasting their games in those areas is retarded. People would go crazy and the NFL would nose dive if people couldn't watch their favorite team(s) from their own area.The Patriots, the "hometown team" have nothing to do with what I am talking about. So I don't understand why you keep bringing that up. I'm not saying they should discontinue showing the local games, because yes that would be retarded. I am saying they should do away with the broadcasting rules and just show the best match ups/at least different teams rather than the same team every week due to "region" (outside of the hometown team of course, I figured that would be assumed but I guess not?)

[Kris P Lettus]

NBC is going to webcast their games this year to see the impacton ratings and how much interest it garners..

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints' McAllister getting MRI; left knee swelled
July 26, 2008
Associated Press
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) -- Saints running back Deuce McAllister has missed a practice, and coach Sean Payton says he is scheduled to have an MRI on his left knee.
McAllister had surgery to repair a torn anterior cruciate ligament in that knee last season.
Payton said it swelled up after Friday's practice and trainers had to drain fluid from it. McAllister sat out Saturday morning's practice.
Payton said doctors don't know if anything is wrong with the ligament but because of last year's surgery they want to be sure.




Fuck..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Krisp as far as I remember there was no beer at the Patriots training camp. I am going either Monday or Tuesday I think next week (which ever day I don't go to the beach :cool: ) so I will let you know then

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah, they sell beer at the Saints training camp, which is weird cause it's on a "dry" campus..

Just curious if other teams do that..

[Mr. Monday Morning]

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[Kris P Lettus]

LMFAO

[Kris P Lettus]

Dorsey signed for like $22 mill.. Hopefully Ellis won't be far behind..

[SammyG]

Donnie Avery holding out too, no contract. Awesome way to start off training camp. I really hope we sign Jackson, despite him being a complete douchebag right now.

[VonErichLives]

Mayo signed the other day and Lamont Jordan in camp... could be a decent backup...

[Nervous Ferret]

Favre would be pretty neat, I dunno. I am pretty surprised because the Jetssssss usually don't have the balls to make the big move ever, but they probably had their best off-season ever this year. I have a feeling he would probably end up screwing the Jets long-term somehow but I dunno.

[VonErichLives]

over/under for the Jets is at 7....

kinda tempting if one thinks they'll get farve...

[SammyG]

Avery signs, that's somethin'.... We need Jackson to, though.

[Gonzo]

The Patriots, the "hometown team" have nothing to do with what I am talking about. So I don't understand why you keep bringing that up. I'm not saying they should discontinue showing the local games, because yes that would be retarded. I am saying they should do away with the broadcasting rules and just show the best match ups/at least different teams rather than the same team every week due to "region" (outside of the hometown team of course, I figured that would be assumed but I guess not?)

I live in upstate New York. More than likely the "hometown team" would be considered the Giants on the FOX affiliate but they do play in Jersey. I know I would be extremely pissed to not get Giants games on TV. They will never discontinue using the broadcasting rules they currently use because there is money to be made otherwise. Where would things like NFL Sunday Ticket be then?

[Gonzo]

Favre is an asshole by the way. I'm sure both sides are guilty in some way but fucking a, just retire. I used to love Favre, but ffs hang em up.

[VonErichLives]

the latest word is he's withdrawn his threat of showing up at camp... is this because they're working a trade or because he realised what a huge dick he looks like and wants to save some image while he can still do commercials and be marketable after football.

[SammyG]

Only reason he didn't show up is because Ted Thompson begged him to not. So, the last thing that is gonna happen here, is that in the next 2-3 days, Favre is either getting traded or released.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I live in upstate New York. More than likely the "hometown team" would be considered the Giants on the FOX affiliate but they do play in Jersey. I know I would be extremely pissed to not get Giants games on TV. They will never discontinue using the broadcasting rules they currently use because there is money to be made otherwise. Where would things like NFL Sunday Ticket be then?Well thats the point, you wouldn't have to worry about the Giants not showing in your area because you live in New York and The Giants are New York's team. The Giants aren't the entire Northeast's team though and thats all I was trying to say. I would just like to see variety in the match ups rather than just the teams that play in the NFC East. Now I realize they would never do this because of a lot reasons but doesn't mean I can't complain about it haha

[VonErichLives]

Only reason he didn't show up is because Ted Thompson begged him to not. So, the last thing that is gonna happen here, is that in the next 2-3 days, Favre is either getting traded or released.

yeah, espn is now running Farve says he called Ted and asked if he really couldn't show up at camp and Ted told Farve if he did show up he'd get Ted fired.

at this point I believe 1/2 of what both sides are saying so who knows, but Farve also says Ted told him to give him a few days to work it out. Farve has talked to the Jets and Bucs but he's telling Mortenson what he wants permission to talk to other teams.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

To anyone who's gone to your team's training camp, do they sell cold beer there??
One of my friends went to a concert this weekend at Gillette Stadium and he took this picture of the Pats out on their practice field (assuming it was closed to the public that day due to parking for the concert?)

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Looks like a beer cart to me so I guess they do have beer there

[Gonzo]

I don't remember if the Giants have beer at their training camp or not. Some days they do, others they don't I think. I don't know what determines it. I will report back, as I may go Wednesday morning. They're practicing 8:40-10:40AM, and I have that morning off.

I just hope the place isn't a huge fucking zoo.

[Kris P Lettus]

Sun-Herald:

On Saturday afternoon, in Canton, Ohio, Washington Redskins teammates Darrell Green and Art Monk will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Monk, a sturdy wide receiver, had to wait a long time because he was more of a lunchpail player than a deep threat who could change a game in an instant.

They'll be joined in the Class of 2008 by Gary Zimmerman, a fine offensive tackle with the Minnesota Vikings and Denver Broncos; Emmitt Thomas, a defensive back whose days with the Kansas City Chiefs date to their AFL days; and two extraordinary pass rushers, Fred Dean and Andre Tippett.

And somewhere, Rickey Jackson sits, an afterthought to the entire process. The greatest defender in New Orleans Saints history has been on the Hall of Fame ballot for the last eight years and has never been named a finalist.

It's more than an oversight. It's an outrage.

Tippett spent 12 seasons with the New England Patriots and finished his NFL career with 100 sacks. He played in Super Bowl XX, when the Patriots served as a punching bag for Mike Ditka's Chicago Bears in the Louisiana Superdome. He was an active defensive end, and a capable tackler in the open field.

Jackson was better.

Dean spent 11 seasons with the San Diego Chargers and San Francisco 49ers, compiling 93 sacks in his career. Toward the end of his career, he was little more than a situational pass rusher, but he had a knack for pressuring the quarterback, even though by NFL standards, he was a small defensive end.

Jackson was better.

OK, you can argue that Jackson played a different position, and that's true. Jackson was an outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense, which came into vogue in the '80s and is still used by a handful of NFL teams today. All three linemen operate out of a stance in the 3-4, which leaves the outside linebacker with myriad responsibilities. Particularly on the strong side, where Jackson played.

Jackson had to rush the passer, play the run and drop into coverage. He was exceptional against the run, and an iron man who seldom missed a start. The Saints became a respectable team in the mid-80s largely because of their defense, which featured a quartet of linebackers - Jackson, Pat Swilling, Vaughan Johnson and the late Sam Mills - that made plays all over the field. Mills was the brains of the "Dome Patrol" but Jackson was its backbone.

Jackson played 15 years in the NFL and won a Super Bowl ring with the 49ers in the 1994 season. He finished with 136 sacks, considerably more than Dean or Tippett's totals, and had eight interceptions. Perhaps most amazing, however, was his 29 career fumble recoveries. Dude obviously had a nose for the ball. He played in six Pro Bowls.

It's disconcerting to see Southern Miss legend Ray Guy emerge as a Pro Football Hall of Fame finalist year after year, only to be denied in the final voting because he was a punter.

Rickey Jackson, however, isn't even making it to that stage.

Which is a shame, pure and simple.

Damn right Rickey Jackson should be in there..

[SammyG]

So should Steven Jackson.

[Kris P Lettus]

You want to fuck little kids like Michael Jackson..

[SammyG]

Haha. Yo. I had a hella weird dream last night, in which you appeared in. We watched a Saints/Giants game. FakeRazor was there too. Creepy.

[Kris P Lettus]

wooo

That's a party..

[SammyG]

lol was weird. Me and frazor were just sitting down on this couch with a shitload of chips, you were pacing the whole time yelling about the refereeing.

[Kris P Lettus]

LOL

:D

[SammyG]

Yeah, woke up right before we started drinking, was like the 3rd quarter, 17-14, don't remember who was ahead. Woke up with a huge wtf look on my face.

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints won, mos def..

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that Brett Favre has faxed his reinstatement request to the league office.

Once the NFL reinstates Favre, the Packers must decide whether to release him, trade him or allow him to rejoin the team as a member of the active roster. "It's pretty clear, and this is what I told the commissioner, that they want me to go away, stay retired," Favre said.
Source: ESPN.com


He better not become a Buc.. I don't only say that because I don't want to play him twice a year, but as a Favre fan, I don't want him going to a gay team..

[SammyG]

I still wanna see him on the Vikes, SO badly.

[Gonzo]

Saints won, mos def..

My ass motha fucka.

[SammyG]

Tell me how my ass taste.

[Kris P Lettus]

My ass motha fucka.

December 25, 2006

[Gonzo]

December 25, 2006

:roll:

[VonErichLives]

no argument Rickey Jackson was a great player, Better the Tippett, sorry... but we're not gonna agree on this one, of course you saw mor Jackson then I did and I saw more Tippett.

If I recall a lot of those Pats teams played a 3-4 also.

tippet changed the game as a pass rusher, the only guy in that time better then him was LT, and Tippet also stopped the run and dropped into coverage...

a real travisty... Gino Cappelletti should be in the hall of fame.

led the AFL in scoring 5 times
led or tied the NFL in scoring 5 times
two of the top 5 scoring seasons in NFL history
AFL top 10 in yards and receptions
All-time leading scorer in the AFL

the list of stats and records that have never been broken goes on...

He played - WR, PK, KR, PR and DB (I'm not sure if he punted also or just kicked FG)

and I know the whole "his main position was kicker" and the whole "AFL was a shitty league" but this guy dominated.

as far as I'm concerned until he gets in the HOF no one else has any right to complain about anyone.

[VonErichLives]

He better not become a Buc.. I don't only say that because I don't want to play him twice a year, but as a Favre fan, I don't want him going to a gay team..

a gay team that won a super bowl...

how many super bowl wins do the saints have?

ok fine, how many super bowl apperance..

oh yeah... never mind..

Bucs > A'ints.

seriously... they should move the team and make NOLA a neutral sight to host the super bowl every year.

[Kris P Lettus]

Maybe if we blatantly cheated and feed our D-Backs HGH we could win superbowls too..

[Gonzo]

Jesus Christ, spare us another one of these 3 page long arguments please.

[VonErichLives]

Jesus Christ, spare us another one of these 3 page long arguments please.

nah, those are saved for me and RP, Krispy couldn't keep up...

every so often I just like pointing out when he says something stupid which in returns makes him say something even more stupid.

[Kris P Lettus]

You realize I didn't write that article, right??

[Kris P Lettus]

Sports Director Jim Henderson is reporting that Saints top draft pick Sedrick Ellis will sign a 5-year contract and report to camp Wednesday.

From wwltv.com

[VonErichLives]

You realize I didn't write that article, right??


:roll:


I didn't say you wrote the article or that it was stupid...

I laughed at you making fun of the Bucs...

come'on boy... follow along...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Went to Patriots practice today, pretty good time. Moss was dominating on there, can't really blame the DBs though nobody can cover him. Bruschi also looked slow as hell covering backs and tight ends, the rookie LB Mayo looked pretty slow too - although he was matched against up with Ben Watson a lot, gotta be one of the faster TEs in the NFL. The other rookie LB they got Crable stood out too, coming off the edge in a 4 point stance as a speed rusher, which was a good sign. Still though its just practice so we'll see what happens.

I took some pics I'll post them later, I also got a video of a pretty sweet play where the ball was tipped around and intercepted - I'll try to get that on here.

Also yes they where serving beer, only Coors Light and Sam Adams tho

[Gonzo]

I'll have a Samuel Jackson.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

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Brady to Moss!!!!!!

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View of the stadium from the practice fields

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Tons of construction going on around the stadium, Kraft is looking to make some serious bank...

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Fake Field Goal...Bruschi ended up picking off the pass lol

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New stadiums are nice

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QBs

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That's rookie Shawn Crable coming off the edge with the speed rush, dude was beasting today

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Gettin' Mossed

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow uploading to YouTube really killed the quality..didn't happen with my facebook account though...anyway to embed Facebook vids on here?

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Chad Jackson grab

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Tipped pass interception

[Gonzo]

Gillette Stadium is really nice. I was there for a game a couple years ago.

[SammyG]

Did you try the whole Youtube HD thing?

[CSL]

lol Quinn Pitcock. How long before he changes his mind?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

What the deal with Ohio State players going AWAL then retiring?

[ClockShot]

Not you too, John.

Safety John Lynch leaves the Broncos. Doesn't know if he's gonna retire or play somewhere else.

Gonna miss all those hard hits. :wavesad:

[VonErichLives]

a source close to Farve says the Packers offered him 20mil over the next few years to stay retired...

this makes little sense... I mean, if thats the case just trade him, at this point I don't think the team will gain/lose any more fan support whatever they do with him.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

If they don't want him to show up so bad just release him, they are just trying to handcuff him with his contract which is pretty fucked up considering all he has done for the Green Bay Packers over the years.

[Gonzo]

I honestly don't think Brett Favre will go play anywhere else. I think he is trying to get his role with the Packers back. If he gets released, I think he'll retire.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

You really think so? Just curious what makes you feel like that? I'm not getting that vibe at all, I think the dude just wants a chance to ball and not be told he is gonna be a back up (at least without being given a shot to compete for the #1 spot)

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Was just reading about Pat White and came across something. Joshua Cribbs is in 3rd place on the all time college career rushing list for a quarterback, I had no idea he played QB in college - and on top of that was that good of a runner. Brad Smith is 1st and Antwaan Randle El is 2nd (both of whom always get recognition for it)

[Gonzo]

You really think so? Just curious what makes you feel like that? I'm not getting that vibe at all, I think the dude just wants a chance to ball and not be told he is gonna be a back up (at least without being given a shot to compete for the #1 spot)

At this point with all the back and forth stuff thats been going on I just can't see him going to another team.

1. I don't think the Packers are trading him within the division.
2. I don't think Favre wants to go to anyone who isn't a legitimate contender.
3. Any team that is a legitimate contender probably is set at QB.

Based upon these 3 factors, the only thing left is whether or not the Packers are truly committed to Aaron Rogers. If they really are, I think Favre ends up retiring at the end of all this. Otherwise I think Favre will be in a Packer uniform by the preseason. Whatever route that the Packers decide to go, they better decide quick. If this goes on longer it has potential to be such a huge distraction (as if it already isn't) and disrupt their season.

[VonErichLives]

a top QB usually goes down... can he file for re-instatement mid season?

then the Packers deal him to someone that needs him?

[Gonzo]

I don't think so. Once the NFL officially recognizes your retirement I'm 95% sure that you must wait 1 calendar year before being eligible to return to play.

[VonErichLives]

I don't think so. Once the NFL officially recognizes your retirement I'm 95% sure that you must wait 1 calendar year before being eligible to return to play.

that can't be, because they already recognized his retirment and he's applied for reinstatement and it hasn't been 1 calendar year... and Goodell already said he's going to aprove it...

I think the only time they wouldn't is if going back to the same team and it's clear it was done to dance around the salary cap.

[Gonzo]

Did he ever actually officially retire though? Was everything finalized?

[Kris P Lettus]

Going to the Black and Gold scrimmage in a few hours..

WOO

[VonErichLives]

Did he ever actually officially retire though? Was everything finalized?

pretty sure he did, otherwise why would he be applying to be re-instated amd waiting the commish to approve?

[SammyG]

Rams first scrimmage today. Can't believe the first preseason game is upon us already.

[Kris P Lettus]

It was sweet, I got to meet Sed "BEAST MODE ACTIVATED" Ellis, Mark Brunnell, Aarron Stecker, and Mike Karney :love:..

Skyler Green the WR from LSU ran back a KO and catch some nice passes.. He wants a job and would add to any teams roster at slot or KR..

Ellis blew up the second string o-line like 5 times.. Defense look great as did the first string offense..

Pics up later..

[Kris P Lettus]

Warm ups..

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008013.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008015.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008016.jpg

Scrimmage..

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008018.jpg

Pressure..

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008024.jpg

Reggie returning a punt..

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008032.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008033.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008034.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008041.jpg

TEAM

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008045.jpg

Mike Karney and Aarron Stecker's daughter..

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008047.jpg

Brunnell

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008049.jpg

Big Sed Ellis and Brunnell's wife..

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008050.jpg

Karney and Stecker..

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008051.jpg

PT Cruiser

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008055.jpg

Memories..

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/krisplettus/SaintsTrainingCamp2008056.jpg

[VonErichLives]

***BREAKING NEWS***

at least that's what espn is saying.

Brett Farve re-instated, will be at Packers Camp Monday...

that's gotta be akward for the team and Rodgers...

gotta bet there's going to be a team/players split on who they want as QB.

[VonErichLives]

ESPN thinks thinks this might be a ploy by Farve to get a better deal in a "non-playing roll for life" which he is negotiating with the Packers.

Tim Wakefield of the Red Sox actually has a "life time contract", I forget exactly how it works but when he decides to retire he gets a job with the team, wether it be a coach or working with fans dunno..

I wonder if Farve is actually going to be doing anything for the team if he gets a non-football deal or they just want him to stay away...

I'll laugh if they ask him to make apperance with fans and such and he refuses..

[Crimson]

Went to Cowboys training camp on friday..it was ok. I didn't get close enough to take good pictures tho. And they had absolutley no beer.

[SammyG]

This Favre shit needs to end.

[RP]

Wow now they're saying this is gunna be a QB competition. I love Favre, but if i'm Aaron Rodgers, i throw a wrench in this whole thing and demand a trade. That guy has rode the bench for 3 years now. He's ready. He was assured the starting job. He should say fuck this shit and demand a trade.

[Gonzo]

From a business standpoint, Favre at starting QB for the Packers is probably the best choice. The Packers also have publicly stated that Rodgers is now their man and are behind him 100%. I love Favre too, but this whole situation has tarnished his image at least in my eyes. I believe the Packers organization is also to blame in this situation but both sides could have went about this better. At this point the Packers ought to let him go.

[SammyG]

Wow now they're saying this is gunna be a QB competition. I love Favre, but if i'm Aaron Rodgers, i throw a wrench in this whole thing and demand a trade. That guy has rode the bench for 3 years now. He's ready. He was assured the starting job. He should say fuck this shit and demand a trade.
Exactly.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Tim Wakefield of the Red Sox actually has a "life time contract", I forget exactly how it works but when he decides to retire he gets a job with the team, wether it be a coach or working with fans dunno..Really? I thought his contract had continuous club options after every season?

Anyway, this Favre thing is dumb BUT I think the only way he tarnishes his legacy or whatever is if he takes the 20 million not to play. That really eliminates that whole "YEEHAW IM A COUNTRY BOY I JUST WANNA PLAY THAT FOOTBALL DRIVE A TRACTOR AND WEAR WRANGLER JEANS" image he has

[SammyG]

Favre is straight up douchebag about this. I hope Aaron Rodgers beats him out for the starting quarterback job. Whether it be fair or unfair

[RP]

I think both sides could have handled it better. I think Favre honestly didnt know if he wanted to retire or not and he needed alot of time. But lets be honest, we'd think he was a douchebag if he took until this time to decide he wanted to retire or play. Everyone would be saying that he's not being fair and yadda yadda. So he told them early he would retire. Probably not knowing for sure if he wanted to or not. Pretty much a double edge sword. I love Favre tbh. I want to see him play this year again. I dont care if he throws picks at the worst time ever. The guy is balls. He plays with his heart and it shows. He's a dying breed in my opinion. He goes out and slings it and if it works it works, if it dont work, he comes back the next week and slings it again. I love it. I want to see the guy start. But its just like damned if you do damned if you dont. Rodgers time is now. But Favre still has it in him. Tough situation. The Packers handled it poorly too.

[OssMan]

Two-quarterback formation

[RP]

Full house backfield with Farve, Rodgers, Grant, Dorsey Levens and Leyroy Butler.

[SammyG]

What if this is just some bullshit by the Packers front office, they hold a rigged open competition, and even if Favre outshines Rodgers, Rodgers gets the job. Would mark out.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Two-quarterback formation

http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=825031

[DrA]

I hope he throws 30 interceptions before he breaks his back and gets addicted to painkillers again.

[DrA]

To be honest I am surprised there is not more creative play calling in football. Things like laterals are really underused.

[SammyG]

Aaron Rodgers : 7-20, 82 yards, INT

in first Packers scrimmage.

[Kris P Lettus]

Sammy, the Packers have been handling this totally worse than Favre..

Favre wanted to retire and did.. Right before training camp he got "the bug" and wanted to play again.. At that time the Packers could've reinstated him, traded him, or released him.. Had they done any of the above, this wouldn't be an issue now.. They wanted him to not play for them and were trying to force him to not play for anyone, which is a pretty shitty way to treat the only superstar they've had in 30 years IMO.. It does suck that he's tanishing his legacy like this, but it's his to tarnish.. The Packer organization could've ended this weeks ago, but have choosen to drag it out because they're being completely selfish about this..

The fact is, they have a much better chance of winning this year with Favre as opposed to without him.. If they want to proceed without him, they should do the right thing and trade him, to atleast get some value for "losing" him.. And this would help Rodgers in the future, them getting like a first rounder next year..

The main thing they shouldn't do is keep him hostage, which is what they've been doing for weeks now..

[Gonzo]

Both sides have handled this poorly. The problem is what we see on TV. We know nothing of dealings behind closed doors. In my opinion both sides have handled this poorly. Both the Packers and Favre need to definitively come out and decided what they want to do. They both have flipped flopped on their positions far too much.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Aaron Rodgers : 7-20, 82 yards, INT

in first Packers scrimmage.


lol wow.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Hey Krispy, how did Reggie look when you were there? Are you feeling optimistic about him this year or no, based on what you saw?

[Kris P Lettus]

Both sides have handled this poorly. The problem is what we see on TV. We know nothing of dealings behind closed doors. In my opinion both sides have handled this poorly. Both the Packers and Favre need to definitively come out and decided what they want to do. They both have flipped flopped on their positions far too much.

Favre "retired" and then "unretired".. I mean that's kinda shitty but come on.. How has he handled it poorly?? He changed his mind.. The Pack on the other hand have lied, tried to pay him off, and are pretty much holding him hostage when all he wants is to play football..

Hey Krispy, how did Reggie look when you were there? Are you feeling optimistic about him this year or no, based on what you saw?

He is OK.. They def need to use him more as a utility back and run Deuce, Steck, and PT Cruiser as the primary backs.. They are saying they're gonna use Bush alot more at returning punts and at WR and whatnot.. Every practice I've been too, they've been lining him up at wide.. He's still working out with the RBs but we'll prolly see him with alot less carries and alot more catches..

[SammyG]

Uh, Favre wanted to come back, Pack said he could have his job back, and he said NAH I AM GONNA STAY RETIRED, so the pack said fuck you, which is the correct thing to do, stop flip flopping. This is all Favre's fault.

[Gonzo]

Favre "retired" and then "unretired".. I mean that's kinda shitty but come on.. How has he handled it poorly?? He changed his mind.. The Pack on the other hand have lied, tried to pay him off, and are pretty much holding him hostage when all he wants is to play football..

This has been going on for years. Dating back probably like 3-4 seasons there was always the notion that Favre may or may not retire. Some of it was embellished by media reporting, but there were several instances of Favre contemplating retirement. This most recent episode seemed to be indefinite, given the fact that he held a press conference etc. What the hell can you expect the Packers to do? They can't bank on Favre playing games like this every year whether he means to or not.

Don't get me wrong, I love Favre as a player. I think this whole situation speaks to how much clout players really do have over organizations at times. I don't blame the Packers for using the leverage they can to make this work out in their favor. Its business, plain and simple.

[Kris P Lettus]

Uh, Favre wanted to come back, Pack said he could have his job back, and he said NAH I AM GONNA STAY RETIRED, so the pack said fuck you, which is the correct thing to do, stop flip flopping. This is all Favre's fault.

No he didn't..

[Kris P Lettus]

What the hell can you expect the Packers to do?

Play him, release him, or trade him..

Which is exactly what they should have done..

[Gonzo]

Its not as cut and dry as that. You know that.

[SammyG]

No he didn't..
What the fuck are you talking about. This is confirmed. Everyone knows this. He said he would come back, Pack were like OK, awesome, you are our starter, and then he backed out, so the Pack declared Rodgers as the starter, and then Favre decided he wanted to come back, again.

[MTH15]

If i were favre id turn real hood right about now

[SammyG]

lol

[VonErichLives]

The Pack hasn't handeld this great but Farve has done much worse.

As Gonzo pointed out Farve had dragged his feet and left the team wondering before, like last year when he wouldn't say if he was going to play or not.

The Pack needs to do what is best for the Pack.

It's their judgement playing his is not, they need to get Rodgers time, they spent a good pick on him and soon they either need to play him or trade him and where no one has really seen him play Rodgers isn't worth much,

Trade him sure, both the Jets and the Bucs were interested, but Farve didn't want to go to either team and wanted to be able to seek out his own team, the Pack rightly so said "No".

Cut him, fuck no... why should the Pack get nothing for him?

I think they will trade him, the problem is
1) Farve wants to pick his team
2) Teams aren't offering much because of his age, and they see the Pack as being in a corner.

So, the Commish reinstated Farve, he fly's there, he's supposed to be on field today but isn't going to practice.

Apperently he was told by McCarthy that if he wanted to re-join and practice with the team he needed to be on board with the teams decision to go with Rodgers.

Farve has now refused to practice and told the commishner it's best if him in the Pack part ways.

Well guess what shit-head, you signed a contact with a team and a state that has treated you like a GOD, now you wanna fuck them hard... screw you, you wanna play so bad, go to the Jets or Bucs, you wanna go to Minnesota, fine, get them to pay a fair price for you,

[Kris P Lettus]

Trade him sure, both the Jets and the Bucs were interested, but Farve didn't want to go to either team and wanted to be able to seek out his own team, the Pack rightly so said "No".

Thing is, they could have traded him.. It's not really like they care what he wants or he'd be in practice as the Packers starting QB, today..

[SammyG]

lol, Favre left the practice facility, won't practice today, says they reached a stalemate, and the best solution is for the two sides to split. When the fuck is this bullshit gonna end.

[SammyG]

LMFAO BRETT on open quarterback competition:

"Aaron should be the starter, I'll practice my butt off, and I think we all know what the end result is gonna be... but I don't think this is gonna work anyway"

[Kris P Lettus]

When the fuck is this bullshit gonna end.

As soon as they:

-start him
-trade him
-release him

Easy as..

[Gonzo]

Thing is, they could have traded him.. It's not really like they care what he wants or he'd be in practice as the Packers starting QB, today..

Nah, pretty sure he has a contract clause that states he has some control in the matter.

Its not as simple as you're thinking Kris P.

[VonErichLives]

Thing is, they could have traded him.. It's not really like they care what he wants or he'd be in practice as the Packers starting QB, today..

Actually Krispy the thing is they couldn't.

While he doesn't have a no trade clause

1) You can't trade a retired player

2) now that he's active if they trade him to a team he doesn't want to go to all he has to do is refuse to report and he (and his cap #) revert back the the packers.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessionid=A10A4379A8FA0B1B4D9FF01067C3599C?id=09000d5d8094bd7a&template=with-video&confirm=true

so again, Farve is a Dick and is handling this much worse then GB.

Kripsy, I know you're a huge Favre fan, heck I used to be one (although the way this is going I think my Favre jersey is going in the fireplace this winter) but you gotta take the blinders off this one.

He has acted like a complete dick and this isn't something new for him, they brought in Rodgers to be groomed by Favre and his first response was "it's not my job to teach anyone", he left the team in limbo more then once and now this crap.

and no, this whole thing wasn't created by the media, is was created by Favre.

[Nervous Ferret]

The only good thing about this Favre nonsense, lots and lots of Wendi Nix :drool::drool::drool:

[McLegend]

God bless the reporters that work for Espn.

[VonErichLives]

Espn is reporting that Favre thought the Packers would fold and trade him in Division and the Packers are saying no.

Word is, they have agreed on a deal with Tampa Bay, but Favre doesn't wan't to go there...

McCarthy having a press confrence now.

McCarthy talked with him and asked him a list of questions from him and the team (questions from the players) wanted to know if Favre was ready to play for the Packers.

McCarthy is saying Favre said he doesn't want to play for the Packers.

[RP]

The only good thing about this Favre nonsense, lots and lots of Wendi Nix :drool::drool::drool:

Erin Andrews should of been all over this. Not Wendi Nix. WTF is ESPN thinking. Oh wait they dont.

[RP]

I'll settle for Rachel Nichols

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Watch Favre completely tank next year, he had good year last year but the few before that where pretty bad if I remember correctly so you never know. Really wish he would just go to the Vikings though and play in Green Bay on opening night, that is the only whole Brett Favre/Green Bay Packers dramafest would be worth it (for me anyway)

Gotta assume he gets traded now though or just doesn't play and takes the 20 million dollars. WHAT A GUNSLINGER!!!

[VonErichLives]

I like how they're saying "He is considering a trade to Tampa"...

So much for they can't just trade him to whoever they want Krispy...

What I also find ammusing is the main "source" for Favre is Mortenson, who says "I talked to Brett", what I also found interesting is he said his family is encoruaging him to explore the Jets...

This brings me back to my original point, is this Favre having the "itch" or a push by family members who have made more "1st hand" statements and interviews then Brett during the whole thing.

[RP]

Charles Woodson needs to stfu

[SammyG]

Jeff Garcia vs Brett Favre quarterback competition.

HMMMMMMMMMM

[VonErichLives]

Favre has flown back home and the Jets and Bucs are in a bidding war, so says ESPN.

I can see the Bucks, but do you really think he'd go to the Jets?

[SammyG]

Jets need him more than the Bucs do, but yeah, not seeing Favre in New York

[#BROKEN Hasney]

He's gone to the Jets according to Sky Sports News