NFL 2008 Off Season Thread

[Kris P Lettus]

So, there has been a lot of coaching changes so far with many spots left..

My beloved Saints hired former Ole Miss Head Coach Ed Orgeron as their new DL Coach.. He was pretty much a shit Head Coach for U of M but is supposedly one of the best recruiting guys in college ball.. Might help us out in the draft and free agency..

The Falcons hired the Jags former D Coord Mike Smith.. I don't really know alot about the guy but that the Jags have had a pretty good D since he's been down there (2002 I think)..

Have Ravens filled their spot?? The Redskins??

What college players do you want in the draft??

I can't wait for next year..

:wavesad:

Who Dat??

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

The Ravens hired John harbaugh (brother of Jim, former QB/now coach at Stanford) as their headcoach, they also hired Cam Cameron (just fired as the Dolphins head coach) as the OC.

I want the Patriots to trade their #7 pick for more picks, I don't think any player they could get their would be worth the money they would be getting. Plus you never know it could be a bust anyway.

Falcons gotta draft Matt Ryan, dunno what the Dolphins are gonna do. They probably wanna trade the #1 pick but nobody is gonna want it. Gonna take Dorsey I guess, not really a very "sexy" first round pick but neither was Mario Williams and seems to be alright

[Kris P Lettus]

Pats def need to trade that pick.. Not like they need another "impact player" right now and would do much better going for depth..

Saints have got to sure up the D.. I have no idea what we can do with Jason "The Biggest Piece of Shit in the League" David, what with signing him to a 3 year like 15 million dollar deal.. Horrible, horrible pick up.. I hope this offseason is like two years ago, not last year's..

[Nervous Ferret]

Almost positive I saw Jim Fassel hired as Redskins head coach

[Kris P Lettus]

I heard him mentioned but never saw anything def I don't think..

[Crimson]

Whatever happned to guys like Ron Rivera, Mike Singeltary, and a couple of other hot names that were last year. I'm hoping Dallas stays put and keeps those 1st rounders . Hoping for a corner and a rb here ..Talib and Mendenhall hopefully.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Ron Rivera isn't coaching in the Superbowl, that's what happened.

Dunno about Singeltary though lol

[D Mac]

It's not offseason yet.

[SammyG]

Jake Long.

[Kris P Lettus]

It's not offseason yet.


It's is for 30 of the 32 teams..

[VonErichLives]

Skins haven't hired anyone, he wants to interview the Giants Def Coordinator and the Pats Off coordinator when the season is over.

Josh has already said he doesn't want to go anywhere, turned down interviews with the Falcons, doubt he'll even talk to Snyder.

The Skins are screwed....... best thing Snyder could do is throw money as a Jimmy Johhnson and say "run my team, I'll get out of the way"... make him team President and let him hire the gm and coach etc...

[RP]

Colts will trade for Chad Johnson and run 4 reciever sets all year next year.

[SammyG]

Yo, if the Rams got Chad Johnson that would be amazing.

[Hanso Amore]

I can see the Phins taking Ryan.

Parcells is going to make this HIS team, and if he wants a qb, he will take him even if it is a stretch and they drafted a qb last year.

I would say if they dont take one of the Longs or Dorsey, it would be Ryan.


As for the Bills, for now I am praying for Sedrick Ellis at 11.

[OssMan]

My friend was flipping out on Thursday that the Skins hired Jim Fassel and was calling them the worst team ever, gonna go 3-13, i was lke what

[Hanso Amore]

If they are going to give a shitty coach a 2nd chance, might as well be Gregg Williams. HE is a far better coordinator and was already the asst had coach.

[OssMan]

Gregg Williams was obviously the jock who went to prep school and wore sweaters around his neck :-\

[Gonzo]

The Redskins are fucking doomed. As long as Snyder owns that team they are going to be mediocre at best.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Gregg Williams was obviously the jock who went to prep school and wore sweaters around his neck :-\

Those people don't exist, unfortunately kids walking around in mismatching clothes with bomboxes on their shoulders do :-\

[Crimson]

I hope the Cowboys go 3-13 next year so they could draft Crabtree!! [/Krispy]

[OssMan]

Those people don't exist, unfortunately kids walking around in mismatching clothes with bomboxes on their shoulders do :-\dude yer freakin dum you base your image of me on some kid you saw in boston with a pinwheel hat playing michael jackson

[OssMan]

Al Saunders and Gregg Williams fired

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

dude yer freakin dum you base your image of me on some kid you saw in boston with a pinwheel hat playing michael jackson

Nah I just look at yer pix

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/10601746

Hmm could be interesting, I dunno who is gonna pick it up for TV.

Also, it looks like Chad Henne might have moved up to the #2 QB spot after his play during the Senior Bowl game/week.

[SammyG]

Rams going hard after Saunders, Williams too, but that is an extreme longshot, as we want him to be just the secondary coach, cuz we got Haslett at D-coordinator.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Odell Thurman was cleared to begin working out in the Bengals' facilities which hopefully means he'll be playing next year unless Goodell is just screwing with me which he probably is

[Kris P Lettus]

I hope the Cowboys go 3-13 next year so they could draft Crabtree!! [/Krispy]

I wish the Cowboys would go 3-13 cause they are f'n gay..[/Krispy]

Y'all completely misunderstood that whole argument.. I just think it's better to go under .500 than to barely make .500 and get killed in the wildcard game.. Unless say, for the Saints, if Deuce had gotten back healthy by week 16 or 17, I didn't want to "back into" the playoffs, specially playing how we were, without a "full deck"..

[Crimson]

lol..i'm just givin you shit. But with a name like Crabtree, he is a sure hall of famer.

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints are gonna play their Oct 26 "home" game against the Chargers in Wembley Stadium in London..

:foc:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

It's not official yet.

Guess I'd better get practising though.

Who's that?

[Kris P Lettus]

Not Official??

I read it from the Associated Press in my local paper this morning..

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Some reporter in San Diego has claimed it as fact but at this point it has not been announced or confirmed by Goodell or anyone else from the league, so it could still be something else.

[Kris P Lettus]

:y:

[OssMan]

Who is that

[Kris P Lettus]

BOWLIN

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Who are they > Who is that

[Kris P Lettus]

:foc: > :love: right now, son..

[OssMan]

BOWLINBALI

[#1-norm-fan]

Saints are gonna play their Oct 26 "home" game against the Chargers in Wembley Stadium in London..

:foc:

:lol: Because if any city deserves to be robbed of a home game...

[#1-norm-fan]

Not Official??

I read it from the Associated Press in my local paper this morning..

It's not "official" yet but it looks like it probably will be.

http://www.nfl.com/international/story?id=09000d5d8064f442&template=without-video&confirm=true

[Supreme Olajuwon]

:lol: Because if any city deserves to be robbed of a home game...

lol didn't even think of that

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Every team will lose a home game to an international eventually

[VonErichLives]

Every team will lose a home game to an international eventually

The question will be is having a game in another country give a boost to merchandise sales that will balance off against the loss of a home game for a top/sell-out team.

[OssMan]

Bottom line is games outside of a home team's stadium is a shit on the face from the NFL

[VonErichLives]

Bottom line is games outside of a home team's stadium is a shit on the face from the NFL

I dunno, if they rotate it, will the home team fans really be that upset about 1 game every 5-10yrs?

[SammyG]

Rams getting Saunders.

[OssMan]

Rams getting Saunders."300 page playbook" Al Saunders

Good luck with him ser

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Most of those players worked under Mike Martz, I'm sure they'll cope

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Indy is lobbying for the 2012 Superbowl I guess....lol sweet destination

[RP]

I'd love to see a Superbowl, but let me tell you about Indianapolis weather. Last night at 8 pm it was 50 % and thunderstorming. A Tonado touched down in fucking January. That was at 8 pm. At 11pm when i went back outside. It was 7degrees and the wind was gusting at 40-50 miles per hour. My car was frozen. Now we're suppose to get 6 inches tommorow. Indiana weather is fucked up foreal. I hope we dont get a Superbowl and then end up having a blizzard or something during the Superbowl. But our stadium will be tight and i think the RCA dome is getting made into a convention center. Downtown Indianapolis is actually a pretty happening place.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah the stadium will more likely than not be sick but it should stick to big cities with nice weather. Even smaller cities with nice weather are kinda weak, Jacksonville was hurtin

[OssMan]

The new Indy stadium is supposed to be done in August, they won't use it next season will they?

[RP]

yep

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Domes are gay for football

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah the stadium will more likely than not be sick but it should stick to big cities with nice weather. Even smaller cities with nice weather are kinda weak, Jacksonville was hurtin
I dunno the Final Four and those racing events don't seem to have problems marketing in Indianapolis.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I dunno, I think the Superbowl is a little different than the Final Four and def a lot different than a racing event.

[SammyG]

Rams get Saunders, yessss

[VonErichLives]

nfl's going to announce 8 games for the bills in Toronto.

5 regular season (1 per year) and 3 pre season.

[OssMan]

No team is ever going 19-0. Ever.

[Nervous Ferret]

Jetssssssssssssssss will prob go OL again this draft. Jake Long hopefully :-\.

[DaveBrawl]

I'm almost willing to bet money Coach Shanahan goes after Ricky Williams. He loves the flawed running backs. Although I think Ricky still has some game in him, so it could work out well for once.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Spagnuolo has turned down the Skins' offer and is staying with the Giants :cool:

Figured he would, as he wouldn't have been able to choose his coaching staff in Washington.</font>

[OssMan]

ahahahahaha fuck you Skins

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Got a huge pay raise. I don't blame him for not taking the Redskins job, but he will never be this hot of a coaching prospect again. I wonder if the Giants made some indication to hire him if Coughlin steps down anytime soon - kinda the new "thing" in the NFL now.

[Gonzo]

Got a huge pay raise. I don't blame him for not taking the Redskins job, but he will never be this hot of a coaching prospect again. I wonder if the Giants made some indication to hire him if Coughlin steps down anytime soon - kinda the new "thing" in the NFL now.

Thats what I'm thinking/hoping. I think Coughlin only has a few more years on him, for better or worse.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Got the Super Bowl shirt and hat. Pretty sick. :cool:

Anyway, looking into the offseason...I'm sure Strahan and Toomer will be back, though I'm guessing Strahan will get permission to skip training camp again and get fined.

I REALLY hope Feagles comes back...he's the best punter in the league in terms of nailing teams past their own 20...but he's gonna be 42 in March. He might want to spend time with his family.

I think the Giants' biggest loss will be Derrick Ward. I really see him going elsewhere for a starting job and more money now that Bradshaw has stepped up. I think Reggie Torbor might leave too, which I'd hate to see. And I think RW McQuarters is gonna get cut.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

Why would McQuarters get cut??

Salary cap room or summat cause I wouldn't get rid of him if I were yall..

[OssMan]

Skins sign Zorn as head coach who's their OC now wtf

[Skippord]

Jim Zorn?

honestly Jim Zorn, why?

[Evil Vito]

Why would McQuarters get cut??

Salary cap room or summat cause I wouldn't get rid of him if I were yall..

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, cutting McQuarters will save a couple mil in cap space...I mainly see it happening because he went from a starter in 2006 to #5 on the depth chart in 2007. He's a solid punt returner but we have guys like Hixon that can take over that role.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Chad Johnson wants to be traded. God dammit.

[MTH15]

Still mad we didnt get schottenhiemer

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I could definitely see Chad going to Jacksonville for their 1st round pick which is #26 I believe. That'd make the Jaguars a legit Super Bowl contender and a threat to win the South finally.

[Kris P Lettus]

Fuck I wish the Saints would trade their first round pick (#10) for him..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Dan Koppan with a 2 yard kick return YEAAAAH BUUUDDDY

[OssMan]

Well I got to see 5 minutes of the Pro Bowl before the power went out

[OssMan]

McQuarters INT against Tampa Bay in wild card round, McQuarters INT against Dallas to seal the game in Divisional round, McQuarters INT + fumble in Green Bay :shifty: Yeah cut him

[VonErichLives]

hmm... the Packers coach gives the ball 16 times to the Vikes star RB who had an injury during the season...


yeah, I'm bored till draft day...

[McLegend]

Eagles gonna make a play for Moss :cool:

[VonErichLives]

Eagles gonna make a play for Moss :cool:

might want to wait till he's a free agent...

theres a rumor they may franchise him.

[OssMan]

Eagles gonna make a play for Moss :cool:Sinorice Moss :shifty:

[OssMan]

Isn't franchising a superstar player a bad idea these days cause they all hate it

[SammyG]

Yep.

[Kris P Lettus]

I really don't think he'll leave..

He needs a ring much more badly than he needs more money..

[SammyG]

LOL what the fuck are the Dolphins doing?!

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7786928?MSNHPHMA

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Isn't franchising a superstar player a bad idea these days cause they all hate it

Yeah they don't like it cuz its only a one year deal, but you get paid pretty decently for that year so its pretty hard to turn down

Also Sammy did you even read the article? "Most of these moves where expected" I mean they cut a bunch of guys off a team that won 1 game...not that crazy

[SammyG]

I guess. Yeah I didn't read completely through it, I just read that they cut 7 starters and I was like LOL WUT

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Dan Morgan cut by the Panthers, would love to see the Patriots pick him up. Injuries or not that dude is a baller, had 25 fucking tackles in Superbowl 38.

[Skippord]

Keith Traylor is still playing/alive?

[VonErichLives]

yeah, Randy would get the average of the top 5 WR which isn't bad, plus the Pats can always pull back the tag say they do a sign/trade deal or work out a deal.

Plus the word is Moss actually has invested his money well and has said money isn't his top priority, I could see a 2-3yr deal and once he gets his ring he asks to be let out of his contract so he can get his last "big contract".

[The Gold Standard]

What does everyone think about Shockey?

Will he stay with the Giants?

[OssMan]

Love Shockey

[OssMan]

if they traded him and get a first round pick...whatever. It just can't be to a team I fuckign hate which is like 9 teams

[Innovator]

Shockey had to be humbled a bit, team won it all without him

[The Gold Standard]

I guess that is true, but I Eli was a lot better when shockey was gone.

[VonErichLives]

i just love how the seemed to keep showing peyton and stop showing shockey cause when they'd go to him he seem to have multiple drinks in front of him.

I don't see why they would trade him and no one gives 1st round pick for a TE (ok, maybe Gonzo in his prime) and especially coming off injury w/ a history of injuries.

[The Gold Standard]

The could get a 2nd round pick and a few more other picks or another player for him. I just think Eli is better without him.

Although he is one of the best TE's in the game.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Shockey is overrated IMO, I mean he's good but it's not like he is an elite TE in the NFL. If you take a look around the league can you really place him ahead of lot of players at the position?

[Kris P Lettus]

Thing with Shockey is, like other elite TE's, is that he can both catch and block.. If you really look around alot of teams play two TE's throughout just that one might be to run routes while the other is just to pass and run block..

Not calling Shockey "elite" just saying..

:-\

[VonErichLives]

The could get a 2nd round pick and a few more other picks or another player for him. I just think Eli is better without him.

Although he is one of the best TE's in the game.

Anything is possible, but a GM who gives up a 2nd rounder + 2 picks or a decent player would be the laughing stock of the league.

I mean his been in the league 6yrs, has he ever been healthy a full year?

don't get me wrong, he's a decent TE, but he can't stay healthy and he's not a dominate TE, I don't watch him enough, how is his blocking?

I think you're talking a 3rd round pick for him... the giants would be better to keep him, his injury didn't help Eli.

[Kris P Lettus]

I think his injury did help Eli, just because it put him more or less "in the drivers seat"..

I don't think Shockey has been that injury prone over his career.. It just seems to have plagued him that past couple of years..

:dunno:

Dan Morgan on the other hand, is a beast but can NOT stay healthy.. He played something like 59 game out of 110 over his 7 year career.. Stima, y'all really need some younger, more healthy LB's if any..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Lance Briggs

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>For the first time in awhile there's really no free agents I'd like to pick up...don't really wanna screw around with the chemistry the current team has formed, and after every single draft pick last year contributed, I fully trust Reese to add more key contributors.

I mean a guy like Trufant would be pretty awesome, but I have a feeling he'll want at least the 8 years, $80 mil that Clements got...its basically like with pitchers in baseball now.

Instead I'd rather focus on re-signing our free agents, namely Kawika Mitchell and Reggie Torbor. Feagles signed a 2 year deal which is pretty huge IMO, best in the game at coffin corner punting. And Tynes is getting re-signed which I fully agree with...though the rumored 5 years, $7 million seems pretty risky unless the guaranteed signing bonus is cheap.

As for Shockey, I really don't want to see him go...I think he can still contribute. Even though more passes will probably go Boss' way, Shockey will suck it up and play.</font>

[Gonzo]

The thing about Shockey is this: he is never 100%. He probably won't produce numbers as good as his 1st or 2nd year. The guy has a fucked up ankle every week and you can notice it, especially if you watch the Giants week in and week out. Shockey can run routes, has great hands and has developed into a hell of a blocker (something which he wasn't when he entered the league.) I'd place Shockey in the top 6, 7 or 8, somewhere in that range.

[Kris P Lettus]

I would shit if the Saints signed someone like Trufant..

[VonErichLives]

Zach Thomas was cut by the Dolphins tonight...

Gee, wonder where he might be playing next year... :D

of course, it depends on the concussions issue.

is he what he once was? no... but I'm sure he'll still be a decent player in the NE system.

Still waiting for Jason Taylor to be delt... it's reported Brady's best friend not on the Patriots is Jason Taylor...

Parcells first day he saw "preferred spaces" for Thomas, Taylor (over 10yrs) and the top performers... Parcells took the spaces away "who ever gets here first gets to park the closest".

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The next wave of NFL helmet designs... The Gladiator:

http://machinedesign.com/Content/Site305/Articles/11_21_2007/71739headgearjp_00000049670.jpg

LMAO

[Supreme Olajuwon]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2315/2245920103_d0b8080601.jpg?v=0

:rofl:

[OssMan]

gimme a break

[SammyG]

Rams need to make some moves, SOMETHING.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Dear God no do not allow that helmet to be used

[DrA]

I would rather break my neck than play with that helmet on.

[Gonzo]

Nobody will use it.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Interestingly enough it is made by the same people who made the Pro Cap helmets

http://static.flickr.com/92/269515923_d0129911b9.jpg?v=0

[Supreme Olajuwon]

also I'd just like to point out that Uni Watch is probably my 2nd favorite website on the internet

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Honestly, the first thing I thought of when I saw those new helmets compared to the normal model was this:

http://www.anniescostumes.com/ru909877.jpg

compared to this:

http://www.starkdavingmad.com/jpg/darkHelmet.jpg

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

also I'd just like to point out that Uni Watch is probably my 2nd favorite website on the internet
Big fan of Uni Watch myself

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Still waiting for Jason Taylor to be delt... it's reported Brady's best friend not on the Patriots is Jason Taylor...


Would have thought that was Giselle

[VonErichLives]

honesty, if it will prevent concussions I hope they all wear the new helmet.

[SammyG]

I agree with VEL

[Kris P Lettus]

I too thought of Lord Helmet when seeing that pic, Supreme..

I also thought it was Flutie modeling it at first also..

:o

And VEL, about Zach Thomas, he said he wanted to end his career with another team, rather than retire so he'll prolly keep playing a few more years even if in an eternal state of concustedness..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

That helmet will need to be changed, nobody will wear it. It looks like a fucking motorcross helmet, I've heard stories of a lot guys not wanting to wear the Riddell Revolution helmet because it looks like a space helmet. That one is 15 times worse. Plus it isn't even being produced by Schutt of Riddell, pretty much the "gold standard" of helmets in football.

[VonErichLives]

I too thought of Lord Helmet when seeing that pic, Supreme..

I also thought it was Flutie modeling it at first also..

:o

And VEL, about Zach Thomas, he said he wanted to end his career with another team, rather than retire so he'll prolly keep playing a few more years even if in an eternal state of concustedness..

I know, the assumption is new england, he'd be a good fit here.. it wouldn't help the LB get younger but would be added depth.

[Kris P Lettus]

LOL

A 34 year old helping them "get younger"..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Who said he was going to add youth?

[VonErichLives]

I know, the assumption is new england, he'd be a good fit here.. it wouldn't help the LB get younger but would be added depth.

LOL

A 34 year old helping them "get younger"..

huh?

Who said he was going to add youth?

at some point gotta think about replacements for Bruschi and Seau, can't see them playing much longer...

that being said, Belicheck prefers (it seems) LBs who have been around a few years.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well I was just confused by Krisy's statement that the Pats were trying to add youth by getting Zach Thomas. If they do get him, I don't think they are getting him for the youth movement...

I think Oscar Lua is gonna be in the rotation next year for some reason, I really don't know but I just got a gut feeling he is gonna pan out. He is an undersized guy but I think he can fit in the Pats system, plus he is a Samoan from USC. Come on

[Triple A]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/shirts_dc

"Winning" Super Bowl shirts end up in Nicaragua

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080215/i/r1359877843.jpg?x=400&y=298&sig=5SnPVEocVyrJhlPCmoCa2Q--

MANAGUA (Reuters) - Shirts and caps proclaiming the victory of the New England Patriots -- when the American football team actually lost the latest Super Bowl -- have ended up in the hands of poor Nicaraguan children.

Hundreds of shirts and caps, which had been manufactured in advance to celebrate the Patriots' expected victory over the New York Giants, were handed over to children in the southern city of Diriamba.

"The children are the winners," said Miriam Diaz, of World Vision, a Christian humanitarian organization.

World Vision has links with the National Football League, or NFL, and every year helps out poor children in Latin America and Africa with the unwanted "winners" shirts of the team that actually loses the Super Bowl.

Winners' shirts and other garments are produced in advance so players and fans can put them on to celebrate immediately after the final whistle of the game. Garments of the losing team are obviously unwanted.

The Giants stunned the previously undefeated Patriots 17-14 in this year's Super Bowl.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL the Pats SB shirt and hat are identical to the Giants' one except the 19-0.

But yeah I heard they do that every year, pretty cool. I read they've been doing that since the '90s so the Bills are probably the greatest dynasty ever to them. Some kid is probably running around in a 2000 Giants SB champs shirt.</font> :(

[OssMan]

I think they started doing that in like 2004, its in Sports Illustrated somewhere

[Kris P Lettus]

Calm down Stima, I read VEL's post as "would" instead of "wouldn't"..

[VonErichLives]

Calm down Stima, I read VEL's post as "would" instead of "wouldn't"..

although he's younger then Seau and might be a few months younger the Bruschi (they're both 34).

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Thomas visited the Saints and on his way to Dallas. Might not wind up in NE after all.

[Crimson]

Saints could def use him. Dallas..they got solid LB's, but I dunno what happened to Carpenter or even the rookie Spencer didn't do shit last year..maybe they didn't fit in the system or something..but I wouldn't mind seeing Thomas in a Cowboys uni. Pats can still come outta nowhere and get him .

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Calm down Stima, I read VEL's post as "would" instead of "wouldn't"..
lol calm down? All I said was I was confused, if somebody posted something like that about the Saints you would probably flip out and start calling people haters

[Kris P Lettus]

Stop being a hater Stima..

I'd love to see him play for us for 3-4 years.. Only thing is, with the Saints being cursed and all, we'd prolly spend way too much money on him and he'd never be back to form..

[VonErichLives]

can't see him in NO, I would think Dallas, NYG, Indy and NE would be his top choices assuming he's looking for his best shot to win it all vs. another payday..

[OssMan]

He could win it all with NYG but he'd be a backup linebacker :roll: why would he wanna do that IND would be best for him dunno their starting MLB is Rob Morris or something

[VonErichLives]

not sure if a team that is counting on his as a full-time starter would want him, with the concussion problems... I see him as a role player/backup...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He wouldn't fit into the Colts defensive scheme at all

[RP]

We got a guy named Gary Bracket, he's one of the best in the league.

[Gonzo]

The Giants won't go for Zach Thomas. If this first year under GM Jerry Reese is any example, I don't see many bonehead moves coming from up top.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Signing Zach Thomas wouldn't really be a bonehead move though, I highly doubt he will sign for much money. He is a low risk pick up really, if he is able to play anywhere to his past capabilities it could be big.

[Crimson]

Pats have made him an offer already.

[Gonzo]

Signing Zach Thomas wouldn't really be a bonehead move though, I highly doubt he will sign for much money. He is a low risk pick up really, if he is able to play anywhere to his past capabilities it could be big.

For the NYG it would be. Look at it this way. Thomas is a MLB, we have a decent MLB in Antonio Pierce. Even if they signed him, I fail to see where he can even fit in as a situational player. He is pretty old, is a health risk, and I'm willing to bet he has one or two concussions and is forced to retire within 1-2 years. Obviously its not going to be a huge contract but its still not worth the roster spot.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't think Darren McFadden is gonna be that good in the NFL, just wanted to throw that out there

[Crimson]

Mendenhall>McFadden

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Giants supposedly ready to trade for DeAngelo Hall

[DrA]

Saints could def use him. Dallas..they got solid LB's, but I dunno what happened to Carpenter or even the rookie Spencer didn't do shit last year..maybe they didn't fit in the system or something..but I wouldn't mind seeing Thomas in a Cowboys uni. Pats can still come outta nowhere and get him .

He is too old, too small, and doesn't even know what planet he's on. He wouldn't be progressive for the team at this point.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>DeAngelo Hall? :-\ I dunno, I've kinda always hated him because of his questionable attitude.

Odds are it'll take more than the Giants' first round pick to get him, so that's a bit excessive.</font>

[Crimson]

Hall could be a shutdown corner though. I hope Giants don't get him, he would dramatically make your secondary alot better.

[Crimson]

Shutdown corner with that deadly pass rush...i'd want that.

[Crimson]

He is too old, too small, and doesn't even know what planet he's on. He wouldn't be progressive for the team at this point.

Yea your probably right. What happened to Bobby Carpenter though, he barely plays is he a bust already or what.

[SammyG]

Jake Long St.Louis bound.

[VonErichLives]

Jake Long St.Louis bound.

that was my original thought, but seeing more mocks with Chris Long going 1st and then Dorsey going 2nd to STL.

is it draft day yet...

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I've heard a prediction that the Dolphins take Matt Ryan at #1, Chris Long to the Rams, Glenn Dorsey to the Falcons, Sedrick Ellis to Oakland, and Jake Long to the Chiefs to round out the top 5.

Not sure Ryan is really worth the #1 overall pick, but the Dolphins can't really trade down because the Falcons would probably take him instead.</font>

[OssMan]

Shutdown corner with that deadly pass rush...i'd want that....seriously.

imagine having corners who can play man to man while rushing 4+....:drool:

[VonErichLives]

<font color=goldenrod>I've heard a prediction that the Dolphins take Matt Ryan at #1, Chris Long to the Rams, Glenn Dorsey to the Falcons, Sedrick Ellis to Oakland, and Jake Long to the Chiefs to round out the top 5.

Not sure Ryan is really worth the #1 overall pick, but the Dolphins can't really trade down because the Falcons would probably take him instead.</font>

I'm hearing the Phins don't want to give up on Beck yet since they spent a 2nd round pick on him..

but that wouldn't shock me if they took Ryan, I just can't see the Falcons not taking a QB... a stretch there to take Brohm, but might be able to deal down a few slots and pick-up an extra pick, of course I think Baltimore is counting on Brohm or Ryan being there at #8.

and Dorsey or Ellis would make sense for Oakland, but can you really see Al Davis passing on McFadden if he's there?

If McFadden does slip, maybe the Jets take him... if not and he falls to NE... yeah, Belicheck will get a nice package from someone for that pick. maybe Arizona or Seattle (Edge isn't getting younger and Alexander hasn't looked like is old self).

Also talk that if McFadden starts to Slip jones may use the two 1st round picks to move up... doesn't make a lot of sense to me... but he is a fellow Razor Back...

shit... can't wait for draft day...

[VonErichLives]

oh yeah and NE didn't franchise Moss but word is they were close to a deal.... I believe it when I see it.

[Evil Vito]

I'm hearing the Phins don't want to give up on Beck yet since they spent a 2nd round pick on him..

but that wouldn't shock me if they took Ryan, I just can't see the Falcons not taking a QB... a stretch there to take Brohm, but might be able to deal down a few slots and pick-up an extra pick, of course I think Baltimore is counting on Brohm or Ryan being there at #8.

and Dorsey or Ellis would make sense for Oakland, but can you really see Al Davis passing on McFadden if he's there?

If McFadden does slip, maybe the Jets take him... if not and he falls to NE... yeah, Belicheck will get a nice package from someone for that pick. maybe Arizona or Seattle (Edge isn't getting younger and Alexander hasn't looked like is old self).

Also talk that if McFadden starts to Slip jones may use the two 1st round picks to move up... doesn't make a lot of sense to me... but he is a fellow Razor Back...

shit... can't wait for draft day...

<font color=goldenrod>I actually read that the Raiders plan on sticking with Fargas as they think he can carry the load when healthy...but yeah it wouldn't surprise me to see Davis go for McFadden.

The Jets seem like the likely canidates right now...I can see it being eerily similar to Adrian Peterson last year. They don't NEED McFadden per se, as Jones is solid but he'll be 30. Then McFadden gets the bulk of the work and will probably be ROTY.

The general sense I get from most mocks is that McFadden IS the best player in the whole draft, but the first five or so teams haven't shown much interest in him so he'll be Brady Quinn'd, just not as badly.</font>

[Crimson]

I don't think Darren McFadden is gonna be that good in the NFL, just wanted to throw that out there

Mendenhall>McFadden

[Nervous Ferret]

McFadden :-\

Can't say I wouldn't go crazy if he fell to the Jets, but they so bad need help up the middle on D, and the O line is still missing at least 1 more real solid guy, + Leon Washington is probably my favorite player ever, and he would be useless if they got McFadden. :-\ Would honestly rather have the two Cowboy firsts then McFadden...

But I dunno maybe Run DMC is the next Adrian PEterson, don't really think so though

I'm still thinking Gholston at this point thoguh :y:

[MTH15]

lol Star Wars helmets

[Mr. Monday Morning]

<font color=goldenrod>I actually read that the Raiders plan on sticking with Fargas as they think he can carry the load when healthy...but yeah it wouldn't surprise me to see Davis go for McFadden.</font>

Michael Bush should be ready to go this year as well, so even though Davis is crazy that'd really be a stupid move.

[Hanso Amore]

Im hoping the Bills can work a trade with the raiders to move up to their spot.

JP Losman, 11th Pick, a 3rd rounder this year and a 2nd and 5th next year for the raiders top 5 pick where the Bills can Land Sedrick Ellis, and the Raiders could still get a solid pick.

Im sure they would want more, but I think that is kind of fair. Might have to swap this years 3rd to a second.

[Crimson]

Cowboys better not trade their picks, worst move ever.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I'm still thinking Gholston at this point thoguh :y:I don't understand how this guy became such a high pick. I mean he I think he will be in good in the NFL but I'm a bit surprised he is going so high.

He is one of the most jacked guys I have ever seen though

http://www.ncaagridirongab.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/gholston-50.jpg

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Im hoping the Bills can work a trade with the raiders to move up to their spot.

JP Losman, 11th Pick, a 3rd rounder this year and a 2nd and 5th next year for the raiders top 5 pick where the Bills can Land Sedrick Ellis, and the Raiders could still get a solid pick.

Im sure they would want more, but I think that is kind of fair. Might have to swap this years 3rd to a second.

Why would they want Losman when they have Russell? That might work with say, KC though.

[OssMan]

Wow holy shit I hope McFadden goes to a team I like so I can call him Run DMC :love:

[OssMan]

McQuarters is getting cut if the Giants get Hall :(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>McQuarters is getting cut regardless, as I predicted a few weeks ago. If they don't get Hall they'll probably get a CB somewhere in the draft.</font>

[VonErichLives]

Im hoping the Bills can work a trade with the raiders to move up to their spot.

JP Losman, 11th Pick, a 3rd rounder this year and a 2nd and 5th next year for the raiders top 5 pick where the Bills can Land Sedrick Ellis, and the Raiders could still get a solid pick.

Im sure they would want more, but I think that is kind of fair. Might have to swap this years 3rd to a second.

and I'm hopping the Patriots can deal the 7th pick for Jason Taylor and the Dolphins #1 pick...

neither one of us has much a chance.

1) The Raiders would have no ineterest in Losman or his contract.

2) There is a big impact different this year between the 5th pick and the 11th, the Raiders would still have a decent player but not the type of player they can get at #5.

3) With the picks/money the Bills have spent the last few years on Larry Tripplett and draft picks on John McGargo and Kyle Williams would they go DT again?

Source: http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html for #3, I honestly only thought of Triplett, but they had the other guys which reinforced my thoughts

[Crimson]

So Cowboys get Zach Thomas :|. If he stays healthy he can be productive..but they have alot of other needs like cb, wr, offensive line, a backup running back..the linebackers seemed just fine. I'd like to see them sign Ashanti Samuel or something.

[Hanso Amore]

The Bills do plan on doing DT early. We have horrible run defense, and 2 DEs that cant stop the run. Williams is a 5th round pick, he is good but too small to stop the run, he isa great rotation guy. Tripplet is a bust on his way to getting cut this offseason. McCargo is starting to look like a stud, but he is a penetrating pass rush type, he is not bery stout against the run. They really havent put very much money into the DTs as McCargo is on a late 1st round rookie contract, Williams makes near league minimum, and Tripplet only makes about 3.4 a year which is not bad for a DT. The Bills are trying to find a way to nab Dorsey or Ellis, they are even rumored to be going after Corey Williams (I would prefer the rooks.)

Honestly, I didnt even remember the raiders had Russell....I was thinking they were still hanging with Daunte/Walters. Losman's contract is cheap, and only one year long.

Maybe KC like you said, maybe Atlanta somehow (Mularkey their new OC drafted Losman as Bills HC)

Maybe Losman, 11th, 2nd and 5th, and a 3rd next year for The Falcons pick? They have so many needs I can see them trading down.

[Hanso Amore]

The Bills do plan on doing DT early. We have horrible run defense, and 2 DEs that cant stop the run. Williams is a 5th round pick, he is good but too small to stop the run, he isa great rotation guy. Tripplet is a bust on his way to getting cut this offseason. McCargo is starting to look like a stud, but he is a penetrating pass rush type, he is not bery stout against the run. They really havent put very much money into the DTs as McCargo is on a late 1st round rookie contract, Williams makes near league minimum, and Tripplet only makes about 3.4 a year which is not bad for a DT. The Bills are trying to find a way to nab Dorsey or Ellis, they are even rumored to be going after Corey Williams (I would prefer the rooks.)

Honestly, I didnt even remember the raiders had Russell....I was thinking they were still hanging with Daunte/Walters. Losman's contract is cheap, and only one year long.

Maybe KC like you said, maybe Atlanta somehow (Mularkey their new OC drafted Losman as Bills HC)

Maybe Losman, 11th, 2nd and 5th, and a 3rd next year for The Falcons pick? They have so many needs I can see them trading down.

[VonErichLives]

the word is the Pats didn't franchise Moss because the deal is done, they're just not allowed to announe it until Friday.

Samuel is probably gone, the contract he signed last year doesn't allow them to franchise him this year.

[Kris P Lettus]

Wow holy shit I hope McFadden goes to a team I like so I can call him Run DMC :love:

SEC fans have been calling him that for a while..

[OssMan]

http://www.nynjfootball.com/images/pool/INBOWL.jpg

Looks straight outta Create-A-Stadium in Madden, well at least Madden 07. still though.

hope our tickets are anywhere near as good as they are now :-\

[SammyG]

That is sweet.

[Nervous Ferret]

kinda the same thing but just maddenized :-\

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah dunno, a football stadium is a football stadium. You can't really make the field look all that cool or anything like you can with a baseball stadium. I mean I am sure the concourses and shit are nice and everything but you know what I mean.

[VonErichLives]

McFadden is having a great combine, there is now talk Dallas will package the 2 picks for the #1 from Miami.

Calling him the new Tony Doresett...

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Parcells will take Jones for everything he's got if he even tries to make that trade.

[Kris P Lettus]

Zach Thomas landed in Dallas on a one year $3 mill deal..

Saints are looking at Dan Morgan..

:-\

[SammyG]

Concussion city.

[VonErichLives]

Zach Thomas landed in Dallas on a one year $3 mill deal..

Saints are looking at Dan Morgan..

:-\

Do you get the sports section like 2days after everyone else? :)

On a side note, makes sense Zach went to Texas, he's from there and if he gets a concussion it will be easier to find home.

There was a story that Jim Kelly who was out after a concussion family came to visit and he kept asking where one of the members were and that person had passed away a few months ago.

[Kris P Lettus]

No I read it in yesterdays paper and it wasn't mentioned on here..

:foc:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think McFadden can thank Adrian Peterson if he gets taken #1 overall.

[Kris P Lettus]

Fuck Stima, RUN DMC will be taken top 5 overall and def will be the first RB taken..

Get over it..

[VonErichLives]

So Cowboys get Zach Thomas :|. .

No I read it in yesterdays paper and it wasn't mentioned on here..

:foc:

[Kris P Lettus]

OMG

Let me delete that post ASAP!!

[VonErichLives]

OMG

Stop hating on the saints!

[Kris P Lettus]

WOW

Misquotes!!

You sure got me good, VEL..

(specially if it was still 1998)

[VonErichLives]

I don't have a link, but someone from fox sports put in their blog they heard at the combine that the Pats aren't close to a deal, that the Pats are assuming Moss will offer then to match the top offer he gets, he also says Dallas is interested in Moss.


TO & Moss? could that work or is that going to blow up by mid-season?

[VonErichLives]

WOW

Misquotes!!

You sure got me good, VEL..

(specially if it was still 1998)

1998 they were 6-10, no one cared enough to hate on them.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

The Saints are "currently the leader" to sign free agent Asante Samuel, according to FOXSports.com's John Czarnecki.


Supposedly he wants $100m. Czarnecki's unreliable at best though so take with a huge pinch of salt.

[VonErichLives]

Supposedly he wants $100m. Czarnecki's unreliable at best though so take with a huge pinch of salt.

ok, good... he's the one who had Moss going to the Cowboys.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Fuck Stima, RUN DMC will be taken top 5 overall and def will be the first RB taken..

Get over it..Oh he was def top 10 but a lot of teams don't wanna make the same mistake and skip over him like they did with Peterson. Only difference is Peterson was an NFL style running back in college, McFadden reminds me more of Reggie Bush without the receiving abilities.

[Crimson]

LOL. Jets are letting Jonathan Vilma seek a trade with any team..except the Patriots.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol I saw that as well, I wish the Pats could get him

[DrA]

I think Darren McFadden is going to be successful based on his name alone. That just sounds like an NFL name.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

McFadden NFL 2009

[VonErichLives]

LOL. Jets are letting Jonathan Vilma seek a trade with any team..except the Patriots.

someone from the pats gets word to Vilma what they would pay him...

he doesn't go anywhere and forces the Jets to cut him and then sign with the Pats.

OR

Someone signs him and deals him to NE for the #7 pick...

either of those would be funny.

[SammyG]

McFadden NFL 2009
lol yeah was thinking this as well.

[OssMan]

brb gonna go watch Giants superbowl highlights

[Gonzo]

ohhhhhhh

[VonErichLives]

Pats cut Colvin... no confirmation yet if Bruschi and Seau are returning...

Wonder how much they're going to give Lance Briggs...

[Kris P Lettus]

LOL. Jets are letting Jonathan Vilma seek a trade with any team..except the Patriots.

He was at the Saints Training Facility yesterday..

:cool:

If we get Vilma and Samuels, I will spray seman everywhere..

Stimes, I really don't see what you don't like about McFadden.. Comparing him to Reggie?? He is much better between the tackles than Bush prolly ever will be..

:-\

[OssMan]

Know what I realized, the Burress TD in the Superbowl is almost identical to the game winning TD he had vs the Eagles in week 2 of last year... same formation, everything.

[Crimson]

You know, I don't think Vilma would fit with the Pats that good. Jets run a 34 as well and he struggled in that defense. Where as the year before in the 43 he was a tackle machine. Well i'm sure he could do pretty good but in a 43 he's pro bowl esque.

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints run a 4-3..

FTW

[SammyG]

Kevin Faulk busted with weed.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

You know, I don't think Vilma would fit with the Pats that good. Jets run a 34 as well and he struggled in that defense. Where as the year before in the 43 he was a tackle machine. Well i'm sure he could do pretty good but in a 43 he's pro bowl esque.

Same thing with Briggs - he's not really a 3-4 guy. He could probably play it but it's not a 'natural' fit per se.

[Kris P Lettus]

Kevin Faulk busted with weed.

lol Yeah at a Lil Wayne concert in Louisiana.. He got "randomly" searched by a deputy sheriff and he had 3 or 4 joints on him.. Pre-rolled, that's my style..

:cool:

Also, the Pats released Rosey Colvin.. I know he's been dealing with some injuries but I'd like to see him in NOLA..

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Saints are something like $30m under the cap, I think. If they're happy with their diminshed receiving core they could do worse than going for Samuel and Briggs, and then trying to swing a trade for Vilma for like a 3rd, maybe 2nd depending on his health. That would be instant win for that D.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Also if Briggs signs for SF and then get Justin Smith as well they might be going 4-3, wouldn't be that big of a surprise since they lost Bryant Young and they don't really have that many more specific guys for that kind of D - if they do change then look out cause Patrick Willis might have like 27837803 tackles next year.

[Kris P Lettus]

How is our WR corps "diminished"??

:wtf:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

.Stimes, I really don't see what you don't like about McFadden.. Comparing him to Reggie?? He is much better between the tackles than Bush prolly ever will be..I don't know if I'd say he is better between the tackles than Reggie Bush, I want to see him play in an NFL game before we decided that. Going back to college though he never really ran over people, he seemed to go down a lot on first contact. He was able to run around and by people, especially out of that wildcat formation but he isn't really going to be able to do that in the NFL. I mean I have no ill-will towards the guy or anything but from what I've seen in college, I just don't see him as an every down NFL back.

Also, the Titans cut David Givens...wonder if the Patriots are gonna show any interest?

[Ninti the Mad]

I want TO and Moss on a team together. :'(

[D Mac]

Chiefs released Ty Law. Along with Eddie Kennison and Kendrell Bell.

Law is washed up anyways. :-\

[Mr. Monday Morning]

How is our WR corps "diminished"??

:wtf:

Patten, Henderson and Copper are all free agents. Granted they could sign them all back but they're leaving it awfully late.

[VonErichLives]

Law was at the Celtics game last night, he finished a degree at Harvard Business School. They asked him about playing here to finish his career and he talked about this being his home and the Patriots his first love, he just wants to play somewhere. He stopped short of saying "I really want to be here".

I can see Law in NE... he's not what he once was but not 1/2 bad with his age/experience.

[D Mac]

He sucks. :mad:

[Kris P Lettus]

Patten, Henderson and Copper are all free agents. Granted they could sign them all back but they're leaving it awfully late.

They'll def resign Patten, if not franchise him.. Henderson is an awesome "speedster" but has problems with route running and drops (actually, he is exactly like Stallworth was when he played for us).. Copper is OK but his most memorable moments have come from huge drops and fumbles more than big plays..

:-\

[Hanso Amore]

They'll def resign Patten, if not franchise him.. Henderson is an awesome "speedster" but has problems with route running and drops (actually, he is exactly like Stallworth was when he played for us).. Copper is OK but his most memorable moments have come from huge drops and fumbles more than big plays..

:-\

Franchise Patten? Why? Why would they pay him 4 times what anyone else would?

[VonErichLives]

He sucks. :mad:

Didn't folow him in KC last year, was he getting beat that badly?

Franchise Patten? Why? Why would they pay him 4 times what anyone else would?

yeah, I was wondering that also... I mean, franchise is what, average of the top 5 WR's?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

They'll def resign Patten, if not franchise him.. Henderson is an awesome "speedster" but has problems with route running and drops (actually, he is exactly like Stallworth was when he played for us).. Copper is OK but his most memorable moments have come from huge drops and fumbles more than big plays..

:-\

Well exactly. So if they let Henderson and Copper walk you're left with Colston, Meachem, Patten and ? (they let Michael Lewis walk unless I'm mistaken?)

[Kris P Lettus]

They moved "Beerman" to an office position but then some team (the Chiefs maybe??) came calling and now he returns kicks for them..

We have Lance Moore who is more of a slot receiver, but he showed ALOT of potential this past season.. He is going into his third year out of Toledo.. I was not happy with the Meachem pick last year just because I think it was a waste, but being an SEC fan I saw him alot in college and always thought he had alot of NFL potential.. Hopefully he'll come through and be a solid number three WR.. If we can get one more good wide out either in free agency/trade or the draft, to add depth, we'll be fine.. I mean at that point we'll have

-Colston
-Patten
-Meachem
-Moore
-someone eles

Not to shabby..

[Kris P Lettus]

Actually, I'd be happy if they franchise Patten and resign Henderson to like a 3 year deal..

Colston, Patten, Meachem, Henderson, and Moore

[D Mac]

Didn't folow him in KC last year, was he getting beat that badly?





He made some plays, but nothing like the Law of old that's for sure. Only 2 INT.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I would like seeing Ty Law back with the Patriots, even if it was in a reduced role or something

[Hanso Amore]

But do you really think paying top 5 WR money to Patten Kris?

Meachem should be good, I just hink he isnt going to Bloom right away like some WRs, I thik he will take the traditional 2-3 years to break out.

Brees is going to throw for 4000 yards regardless of who is catching it as long as Payton is coach and he has at least one top target (Colston)

[SammyG]

Rams released Issac Bruce. :(:(:(:(:( I loved that guy, but from a business side, I see why we released him. We also cut Frerotte, good, piece of shit. I will miss Ike though :(

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Maybe he will just retire now, hes been in the league for a while and I dunno if he'll really wanna play for another team.

[VonErichLives]

Actually, I'd be happy if they franchise Patten and resign Henderson to like a 3 year deal..

Colston, Patten, Meachem, Henderson, and Moore

still can't see how you pay Patten top 5 WR money... that makes no sense for a guy that wouldn't even be the #1 WR on that team (or any team in the NFL, most teams he'd be a #3).

That being said... good'ol Al Davis was at it again...

They make Kelly the highest paid DL in the NFL (thats what ESPN said).

WTF?

This guys been what 3-4yrs in the league, wasn't normally a fulltime player, is going to be moved from DE to DT, oh and tore his ACL week 6.....

ok, you see potential and want to keep him fine.. but the highest paid DL? WTF?!?

on another NFL note, Jerry Jones is telling everyone the owners will opt out of the collective bargening agreement, which means like 2010 or 2011 would have no salary cap if they don't make a new deal.

ok, and NFL with no cap... So, Daniel Snyder will spend 200million on a team that still wont make the playoffs!

[OssMan]

eh we had this big deal a little while back about this collective bargaining thing and it all got settled expect the same thing to happen again cos no cap will prolly equal a strike?

[Gonzo]

I would think no cap would mean the players get paid even more, no?

[VonErichLives]

yeah, no cap would mean baseball... someone like Snyder in this off season would be offering 100mil deals to Moss, Samuel and Briggs. trying to get all 3.

It might also mean a lockout, however i'm not sure if it's more of an issue with the nflpa or an issue the owners have with each other.

[VonErichLives]

if I recall the main issue is profit sharing... the top revenue teams feel they give too much and the lower revenue things they're made to spend to much of their football revenue on player salaries.

They also argue on revenue from shirt/hat sales and such... because the sales are split evenly no matter what teams sells more, which hurts teams like the Raiders and Cowboys who are normally the tops in sales.

Jones has a point, just about everyone has some reason they don't like the agreement, and you need 24 teams to vote to keep it in place. otherwise I think 2011 would be uncapped and Gene Upshaw has been very clear, once there is an uncapped year the NFLPA will NEVER allow a cap to come back.

Hence why I think there is little or no chance of an uncapped year.

because if you have no cap, players will start to demand like the baseball players gauranteed contracts and the first guy with a 100mil multi-year deal that blows in ACL and you'll see an ugly lockout.

[Gonzo]

All that I care about is that the NFL keeps going like normal, no strikes or lockouts, no bullshit.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm hearing a Saints trade for Vilma will be announced after midnight.</font>

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah I don't think the NFL having an uncapped season is a very good thing, its gonna lead to a lot of trouble

[Triple A]

Fucking Vilma.

[D Mac]

Rams released Issac Bruce. :(:(:(:(:( I loved that guy, but from a business side, I see why we released him. We also cut Frerotte, good, piece of shit. I will miss Ike though :(

He'd look good in KC red. :)

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Saints are supposedly looking at trading for Shockey :wtf:

Samuel is in Philly right now

[Gonzo]

Saints are supposedly looking at trading for Shockey :wtf:

Samuel is in Philly right now

Source?

[VonErichLives]

He made some plays, but nothing like the Law of old that's for sure. Only 2 INT.

I'm sure he's not what he once was (what athlete besides roger clemens is).

But INT's isn't always a great stat to judge because top DB's don't get thrown to.

oh yeah, word is Samuel to Philly for like 100millon...

anyone wanna bet he's 75% as effective in Philly as he was in NE?

[VonErichLives]

Fucking Vilma.

why did the jets till him to seek a trade?

[Kris P Lettus]

But do you really think paying top 5 WR money to Patten Kris?

still can't see how you pay Patten top 5 WR money... that makes no sense for a guy that wouldn't even be the #1 WR on that team (or any team in the NFL, most teams he'd be a #3).

Until 2006, when he won GM of the Year, Mickey Loomis made alot of questionable calls.. (Like drafting like 3 DL's in the first round like 3 years in a row, none of who still play for us) And even after that, drafting Meachem in the first when our O didn't really need alot of help but our d-backs were horrid..

:-\

[McLegend]

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/